Honest questions for people defending Trump when it comes to “no new wars” and the Israeli lobby

[Billiejeens]

For the small percentage of Americans, who are supporting Trump no matter what or when it comes to him reneging on “no new wars”…. Or the blatantly obvious undue power of the Israeli lobby,

Do those Trump folks think it’s fine to call somebody a racist for criticizing a foreign government ? Some of the pro Trumpers have , and they’re the same people who criticized BLM rightfully for calling somebody a racist for disagreeing with BLM. This is clearly the most despicable behavior of a portion of Trump’s supporters. It’s a outright lie to accuse one of racism simply for having a political disagreement or criticizing a foreign government.

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The question here could be why do some Trump supporters immediately call people pro IRGC or Muslim lovers or something dumb like that if they say wait a minute…. I don’t like seeing the price of gas go up. I don’t want America in a foreign war because I voted for someone who said “no New wars” …. The funny thing is that some of the Trump voters who are against the war in Iran are anti-Islam. But yet they get called pro IRGC or something stupid like that.

No intelligent person accepts the premise of your question(s).

Be better.

 

[Billiejeens]

Complete lie. Stop lying like a typical Zionist.

I bet you still believe Saddam had WMD and 19 Muslims who liked blow and hookers flew planes into the WTC, but couldn’t fly a kite.

You think that mud people can't even fly kites?

Geez.

 

[BlindBoo]

why do some Trump supporters immediately call people pro IRGC or Muslim lovers or something dumb like that if they say wait a minute…. I don’t like seeing the price of gas go up.

Programming.

This war has no effect on America.

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[BlindBoo]

I bet you still believe Saddam had WMD

Of course he had them. We gave them to him, ops I mean we, and our allies sold him the technology and supplies to make them to fight the Iranians. Of course they were old and dilapidated, mostly toxic waste, when we used them as a pretext for invasion and occupation, but who's counting our dubious claims, hmmmm?

 

[Hafar1014]

Bibi is attempting to turn the entire world against the aberrant nation of “Israel” and he’s doing a fantastic job!

You are aware of the Abraham Accords

 

[Godboy]

For the small percentage of Americans, who are supporting Trump no matter what or when it comes to him reneging on “no new wars”…. Or the blatantly obvious undue power of the Israeli lobby,

I dont give a flying f*ck about "no new wars". Thats an absurd, childish and naive position to take. You go to war whenever you need to. No exceptions EVER!

Now if you want to talk about "no senseless wars", thats an entirely different discussion that we would both agree on, but stopping Iran from getting nukes isnt "senseless".

 

[Hafar1014]

I dont give a flying f*ck about "no new wars". Thats an absurd, childish and naive position to take. You go to war whenever you need to. No exceptions EVER!

Now if you want to talk about "no senseless wars", thats an entirely different discussion that we would both agree on, but stopping Iran from getting nukes isnt "senseless".

Its not a new war it started 47 years ago

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You are aware of the Abraham Accords

Bibi made a mockery of them. Bombed 7 Arab neighbors since then

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Israel and the US trade equipment for technology. Many of our modern fighters use the technology that Israel developed. Shame too many "college" uneducated people learn about transgenders instead of technologies that keep us safe.

You mean like the $400,000 F35 helmet that Israel stole from us?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And you believe the head of Iran? You are the problem.

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I believe in the track record. Iran has zero nukes, same as it ever was. Israel won't agree to be held to the same standards as every other nation. Why is that?

 

[Blaster]

I believe in the track record. Iran has zero nukes, same as it ever was. Israel won't agree to be held to the same standards as every other nation. Why is that?

Instead of giving an uninformed opinion why not put aside your hatred of Israel?

 

[gipper]

Of course he had them. We gave them to him, ops I mean we, and our allies sold him the technology and supplies to make them to fight the Iranians. Of course they were old and dilapidated, mostly toxic waste, when we used them as a pretext for invasion and occupation, but who's counting our dubious claims, hmmmm?

Yeah W was right!!!!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Instead of giving an uninformed opinion why not put aside your hatred of Israel?

Thought they've been "2 weeks away" since the birth of Christ, Iran still has zero nukes.

Israel won't disclose their nukes or in which world capitals they've prepositioned them

 

[BlindBoo]

Yeah W was right!!!!

Nah "W's" spiel was that Saddam had reconstituted the WMD program and was stockpiling a new arsenal. They really only used the old WMD, we helped him get, after the fact, when that they never found any new production or stockpiles. Every once in a while the troops would find a bunker or ammo dump with some old chemical warheads. Then of Course Faux News would scream "They Found the WMD!!!!! GW was Justified!"

 

[Blaster]

Thought they've been "2 weeks away" since the birth of Christ, Iran still has zero nukes.

Israel won't disclose their nukes or in which world capitals they've prepositioned them

Where are your facts that Israel has nukes? You have no facts but rather an ignorant opinion to support your hatred of Israel.

 

[BlindBoo]

Where are your facts that Israel has nukes? You have no facts but rather an ignorant opinion to support your hatred of Israel.

Mordechai Vanunu

In 1986, Mordechai Vanunu, a technician at Israel's highly secret nuclear arms research center at Dimona, disclosed highly classified details about Israel's nuclear arms program to the London Sunday Times. As a result, Vanunu was kidnapped from London and taken back to Israel where, after a closed- door trial, he was sentenced to eighteen years imprisonment for espionage and treason.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

You mean like the $400,000 F35 helmet that Israel stole from us?

Stole?

https://www.elbitsystems.com/blog/israeli-tech-boosts-f-35

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Where are your facts that Israel has nukes? You have no facts but rather an ignorant opinion to support your hatred of Israel.

Why is Israel the only non-signatory to non-proliferation agreement?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

42000 people murdered by the regime you defend

These completely made up numbers ae so reliable

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Programming.


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It’s a regional issue. For 30 years Netanyahu has been saying Iran is weeks away from the nuke. What’s funny is that Israel and the Islamic Republic of Iran worked together to bomb an Iraqi nuclear facility in the early 1980s.

The stock market has been in an upward trajectory since the so-called Islamic Revolution took hold in 1979. So the point is that it’s pure Israeli lobby propaganda that Iran is somehow a threat to the US or the global economy. Sure Israel and Iran have issues. But I’m not Israel or Iranian.

Plus last year Trump said that we wiped out Iran‘s nuclear program. Yet the Israeli lobby is continuously bringing up the nuclear enrichment, nuclear program, nuclear this or that.


What we do know is that the straight of Hormuz was open before the war started. Now there’s all sorts of problems there. What is holding up the stock market now is an AI boom. So if this thing continues in the straight of Hormuz we risk losing the single good thing happening right now in the west, which is a positive stock market. Away from stocks Obviously the price of gas is high in the USA and times are very tough for the working class American due to price increases bc of the Iran issue.

A few people are attempting to argue The pro israel view. But unfortunately all over Fox News, CNN and social media It’s just people getting called Nazis, racist or Democrats or Muslims. Dumb stuff like that. Especially considering that most Democrat senators and Congress people are funded by the Israeli lobby. And for a while, there’s been this Israeli lobby talking point about how “we don’t give money to Israel they just subsidize our economy by using our tax payer dollars to buy American equipment”. That’s a nutty way to look at it. We do give away billions of dollars to Israel and military equipment and military technology. We don’t get anything for it. On the other hand countries like Saudi Arabia and others have actually paid out of their pockets hundreds of billions of dollars for our military equipment.

The idea of the greater Israel project makes sense...as to why Israel is fighting in Lebanon and Iran and pushing Americans to do their work in Iran. Of course we always hear “oh but October 7”. Well what about the Israeli soldiers who testified that they believe their government allowed the oct 7 attack to occur. And the obvious fact that that conflict goes back decades

Israel isn’t going anywhere as they have 90 + nuclear warheads. Which is the ultimate sort of deterrence. And they already have peace deals with most of their Arab neighbors.