SPIKESMYGOD
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The new line of retort- which is the old one- by liberals & Kerry is to claim to being attacked every time a flip-flop is uncovered. The new retort is to say that Republicans don't wish to discuss the issues, they just want to talk about misstatements & SUVs. The new Democratic strategy is to obfuscate the debate by deflecting any critique of Kerry's inconsistencies, any pointing out that Kerry seems to have a complete inability to stick to one story.
Well, we Republicans don't give a damn about Kerry's SUVs or medals, but we do, however, care about what they symbolize: John Kerry's lack of a core.
Ok, let's put this into perspective.
We Republicans don't care that much about what Kerry did in Vietnam, or that much about what he did when he got back and slandered our troops, but we DO care about what he SAYS he did. When Kerry got back, he claimed that he & his fellow soldiers killed women & children, abused Vietnamese civilians & POWs, and that they randomly burned villages to the ground, thus violating numerous sections of the Geneva Conventions. He used this line of incendiary rhetoric to launch him into the U.S. Senate, and maintained for a long time that he did, in fact, commit war crimes. Now, running for president, he makes the adjustment to say that he, being a 27 year old "kid," went too far with his rhetoric, and that he should have used a more subtle, nuanced language. To boil it down, John Kerry still contends that he is proud of his service, which included war crimes. Spin it the way you want, but that is the bottom line.
We don't care HOW severe or minor his injuries were. What we care about is what he SAYS they were. We might find it odd that he, upon receiving minor injuries, demanded three Purple Hearts, thus allowing him to get out of that hellhole, but it is the fact that his story, what he SAYS, is so inconsistent with others' stories, including that of the medic who treated his "wounds." See, what disturbs us so is that A) His stories are so out of whack with common logic, historical accounts of the enemy fire in the area at that time, and the versions by fellow soldiers; and B) That he had the kind of character- or lack thereof- which would allow him to demand medals for questionable injuries, KNOWING that most Purple Heart recipients have suffered life-altering injuries, amputation in some cases, even some medals awarded posthumously.
We don't care if he threw his medals over a fence, protesting the Vietnam war. What we DO care about is how his story changed from throwing medals, to throwing ribbons, then throwing other people's medals, then something in between. Also, he once claimed that medals & ribbons represent the same thing. Then, a few years later, he says that they have very different meanings. Now, he says that they are the same, yet different......AND TO STOP QUESTIONING HIS PATRIOTISM!
We don't care what his opinion is on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. However, we DO care that when speaking to a Palestinian group, Kerry claims that the Israeli wall is illegal & an impediment to peace. Yet, when speaking to a Jewish group, he supports the wall as a logical security measure.
We don't care that much about what his view on outsourcing is. We DO care that Kerry, while castigating American companies for being Benedict Arnold outsourcers, is, with his wife, associated with Heinz, a company which has outsourced over two-thirds of their factories & jobs to other countries. Then, when caught in this latest batch of hypocrisy, Kerry claims that it was the fault of his speech writers, even though he had gievn this part of his stump speech over twenty-five times and had never asked them to take it out. Or, if I can be so crazy as to suggest, that HE take it out.
We Republicans don't really care about what vehicles he owns. That said, we do care that he purported that he owned several SUVs, when speaking in front of Detroit auto-industry union workers, but turned around on Earth Day and said that HE did NOT own them, his family did.
We don't really care if foreign leaders support him. We do care that he said that he met with foreign leaders, "LOOKED THEM IN THE EYE," and they told him how they wanted him to beat Bush. Then, how he got the messages about their wishes from second-hand sources. Then, he claims to have met them in a Taco Bell in NYC- ya know, one of the Taco Bells which Bush & bin Laden jointly own?
We Republicans don't care if he wanted to vote to put our soldiers at risk. We very much care that he said he voted FOR the 87 billion before he voted AGAINST it. Now, one COULD credibly contend that the Congressional appropriations process is very complicated and that, depending on which provisions or amendments are either included or removed, it does make a LITTLE sense that he could vote FOR the original bill, yet vote AGAINST the final version. However, like with EVERY Kerry flip-flop, there is a more serious, disturbing element. Two weeks before the vote for the 87 billion, Kerry was on "Face the Nation" where when asked if he would vote against it if it didn't include rollbacks on the Bush tax relief, he said "NO!" He said that voting against it, REGARDLESS of the specific contents, would be "reckless and wrong." Well, he then proceeded to vote against it, claiming that it was a protest vote. So, he is willing to risk the safety of our soldiers as a tool to protest- something he is very good at, it seems- the war, the war which he originally voted to support? The man could not even stay true to one of HIS stated positions for 14 days, and some crazy people want to give him four YEARS?
What we care about is the fact that this man has no core.
Since the WMD issue is more an issue concerning bad intelligence, intelligence provided & supported by nearly every modernized nation on earth and by the prior administration, this is NOT a flip-flop. We KNOW that he, Saddam, had the weapons. We KNOW he used the weapons on the Kurds & Iranian soldiers. We know that he refused UN inspections for most of the post-war era. We KNOW that some of these weapons likely turned up in a recently thwarted attack on Jordan. We KNOW that the Bakkah Valley, in Syria, is a "place of interest." We KNOW that they could still be in Iraq, hidden some place as small as Saddam's former rat hole penthouse.
So, other than a few minor points, the one "flip-flop" that liberals attribute to Bush is the whole "nation building" one. Well, I seem to remember a little incident occurring on 9/11.
The reason liberals hate Bush so much is because he is consistent, and his beliefs are founded upon solid principles. Also, the reason they hate him so much is because they, being driven by their "anyone but Bush" hysteria, have ended up with Kerry, a man who has no core and no ability to take a strong position on any issue.....other than hating Bush. In their apoplectic "Anybody But Bush" fever, they dumped Dean and have nominated a man destined to lose......and now they even hate us for THAT!
Howard Dean might have been wrong on every subject, but he made being wrong sound so good. He created a true movement among the liberal Democratic base, and stands in stark contrast to poor Kerry. Yeah, he was a little emotionally unstable, but you could tell he believed in his positions. Kerry even stands in a certain contrast to Bill "The Slick One" Clinton. Clinton's lies were inspired by polls and his desire to keep his Arkansas ass out of the fire. With Kerry, it almost seems like he wakes up every morning, has his butler bring him some French tea, goes out to the microphones, and just starts to blurt out whatever pops in his head, REGARDLESS of how the views differ with what he said a day ago, a week ago, a month ago, or a year ago. He might not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but his lying can ONLY be diagnosed as pathological in nature.
Yet, the only thing funnier than his numerous differing stories is his response to being questioned about them. Instead of either explaining why the stories don't add up or trying to stick, in the first place, to one version of something, he starts foaming at the mouth, accusing the questioner of being part of the vast right-wing conspiracy, being a pawn of the Republican attack machine. He is so offended by ANY pointing out of his inconsistencies that he will even accuse ABC's Charlie Gibson of "doing the work of the RNC." If all that fails, he just starts bemoaning how the Republican attack machine is questioning his patriotism.
I notice that Kerry supporters, staffers, the LMM, and liberal activists have been forced to use the same pathetic tactic, but you can see the stress on their faces, hear the hopelessness in their voices. The Dems can't BELIEVE they dumped Dean for this guy, but they have to soldier on the best they can.
So, you see, it isn't that Kerry has committed war crimes, thrown medals and/or ribbons, can't keep straight the names on several SUVs' pink slips, which foreign leaders gave him support or where they did it, or how he voted before, well, how he voted. No, what we point out is that these flip-flops, just as Dean's "I Have A Scream" speech did, underscore preexisting & growing doubts about his intrinsic lack of character.
So, as you can obviously see, SUVs & medals DO matter, for they are the sign posts on the freeway of flip-flops & the road to ruin, ultimately leading to a dead-end. Luckily for America, that is one Left turn which we will NEVER make.
Well, we Republicans don't give a damn about Kerry's SUVs or medals, but we do, however, care about what they symbolize: John Kerry's lack of a core.
Ok, let's put this into perspective.
We Republicans don't care that much about what Kerry did in Vietnam, or that much about what he did when he got back and slandered our troops, but we DO care about what he SAYS he did. When Kerry got back, he claimed that he & his fellow soldiers killed women & children, abused Vietnamese civilians & POWs, and that they randomly burned villages to the ground, thus violating numerous sections of the Geneva Conventions. He used this line of incendiary rhetoric to launch him into the U.S. Senate, and maintained for a long time that he did, in fact, commit war crimes. Now, running for president, he makes the adjustment to say that he, being a 27 year old "kid," went too far with his rhetoric, and that he should have used a more subtle, nuanced language. To boil it down, John Kerry still contends that he is proud of his service, which included war crimes. Spin it the way you want, but that is the bottom line.
We don't care HOW severe or minor his injuries were. What we care about is what he SAYS they were. We might find it odd that he, upon receiving minor injuries, demanded three Purple Hearts, thus allowing him to get out of that hellhole, but it is the fact that his story, what he SAYS, is so inconsistent with others' stories, including that of the medic who treated his "wounds." See, what disturbs us so is that A) His stories are so out of whack with common logic, historical accounts of the enemy fire in the area at that time, and the versions by fellow soldiers; and B) That he had the kind of character- or lack thereof- which would allow him to demand medals for questionable injuries, KNOWING that most Purple Heart recipients have suffered life-altering injuries, amputation in some cases, even some medals awarded posthumously.
We don't care if he threw his medals over a fence, protesting the Vietnam war. What we DO care about is how his story changed from throwing medals, to throwing ribbons, then throwing other people's medals, then something in between. Also, he once claimed that medals & ribbons represent the same thing. Then, a few years later, he says that they have very different meanings. Now, he says that they are the same, yet different......AND TO STOP QUESTIONING HIS PATRIOTISM!
We don't care what his opinion is on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. However, we DO care that when speaking to a Palestinian group, Kerry claims that the Israeli wall is illegal & an impediment to peace. Yet, when speaking to a Jewish group, he supports the wall as a logical security measure.
We don't care that much about what his view on outsourcing is. We DO care that Kerry, while castigating American companies for being Benedict Arnold outsourcers, is, with his wife, associated with Heinz, a company which has outsourced over two-thirds of their factories & jobs to other countries. Then, when caught in this latest batch of hypocrisy, Kerry claims that it was the fault of his speech writers, even though he had gievn this part of his stump speech over twenty-five times and had never asked them to take it out. Or, if I can be so crazy as to suggest, that HE take it out.
We Republicans don't really care about what vehicles he owns. That said, we do care that he purported that he owned several SUVs, when speaking in front of Detroit auto-industry union workers, but turned around on Earth Day and said that HE did NOT own them, his family did.
We don't really care if foreign leaders support him. We do care that he said that he met with foreign leaders, "LOOKED THEM IN THE EYE," and they told him how they wanted him to beat Bush. Then, how he got the messages about their wishes from second-hand sources. Then, he claims to have met them in a Taco Bell in NYC- ya know, one of the Taco Bells which Bush & bin Laden jointly own?
We Republicans don't care if he wanted to vote to put our soldiers at risk. We very much care that he said he voted FOR the 87 billion before he voted AGAINST it. Now, one COULD credibly contend that the Congressional appropriations process is very complicated and that, depending on which provisions or amendments are either included or removed, it does make a LITTLE sense that he could vote FOR the original bill, yet vote AGAINST the final version. However, like with EVERY Kerry flip-flop, there is a more serious, disturbing element. Two weeks before the vote for the 87 billion, Kerry was on "Face the Nation" where when asked if he would vote against it if it didn't include rollbacks on the Bush tax relief, he said "NO!" He said that voting against it, REGARDLESS of the specific contents, would be "reckless and wrong." Well, he then proceeded to vote against it, claiming that it was a protest vote. So, he is willing to risk the safety of our soldiers as a tool to protest- something he is very good at, it seems- the war, the war which he originally voted to support? The man could not even stay true to one of HIS stated positions for 14 days, and some crazy people want to give him four YEARS?
What we care about is the fact that this man has no core.
Since the WMD issue is more an issue concerning bad intelligence, intelligence provided & supported by nearly every modernized nation on earth and by the prior administration, this is NOT a flip-flop. We KNOW that he, Saddam, had the weapons. We KNOW he used the weapons on the Kurds & Iranian soldiers. We know that he refused UN inspections for most of the post-war era. We KNOW that some of these weapons likely turned up in a recently thwarted attack on Jordan. We KNOW that the Bakkah Valley, in Syria, is a "place of interest." We KNOW that they could still be in Iraq, hidden some place as small as Saddam's former rat hole penthouse.
So, other than a few minor points, the one "flip-flop" that liberals attribute to Bush is the whole "nation building" one. Well, I seem to remember a little incident occurring on 9/11.
The reason liberals hate Bush so much is because he is consistent, and his beliefs are founded upon solid principles. Also, the reason they hate him so much is because they, being driven by their "anyone but Bush" hysteria, have ended up with Kerry, a man who has no core and no ability to take a strong position on any issue.....other than hating Bush. In their apoplectic "Anybody But Bush" fever, they dumped Dean and have nominated a man destined to lose......and now they even hate us for THAT!
Howard Dean might have been wrong on every subject, but he made being wrong sound so good. He created a true movement among the liberal Democratic base, and stands in stark contrast to poor Kerry. Yeah, he was a little emotionally unstable, but you could tell he believed in his positions. Kerry even stands in a certain contrast to Bill "The Slick One" Clinton. Clinton's lies were inspired by polls and his desire to keep his Arkansas ass out of the fire. With Kerry, it almost seems like he wakes up every morning, has his butler bring him some French tea, goes out to the microphones, and just starts to blurt out whatever pops in his head, REGARDLESS of how the views differ with what he said a day ago, a week ago, a month ago, or a year ago. He might not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but his lying can ONLY be diagnosed as pathological in nature.
Yet, the only thing funnier than his numerous differing stories is his response to being questioned about them. Instead of either explaining why the stories don't add up or trying to stick, in the first place, to one version of something, he starts foaming at the mouth, accusing the questioner of being part of the vast right-wing conspiracy, being a pawn of the Republican attack machine. He is so offended by ANY pointing out of his inconsistencies that he will even accuse ABC's Charlie Gibson of "doing the work of the RNC." If all that fails, he just starts bemoaning how the Republican attack machine is questioning his patriotism.
I notice that Kerry supporters, staffers, the LMM, and liberal activists have been forced to use the same pathetic tactic, but you can see the stress on their faces, hear the hopelessness in their voices. The Dems can't BELIEVE they dumped Dean for this guy, but they have to soldier on the best they can.
So, you see, it isn't that Kerry has committed war crimes, thrown medals and/or ribbons, can't keep straight the names on several SUVs' pink slips, which foreign leaders gave him support or where they did it, or how he voted before, well, how he voted. No, what we point out is that these flip-flops, just as Dean's "I Have A Scream" speech did, underscore preexisting & growing doubts about his intrinsic lack of character.
So, as you can obviously see, SUVs & medals DO matter, for they are the sign posts on the freeway of flip-flops & the road to ruin, ultimately leading to a dead-end. Luckily for America, that is one Left turn which we will NEVER make.
