Healthcare Premiums Soar

[Captain Caveman]

It has taken pretty good care of me. I have no complaints. I am still here. I would be dead if I lived in the UK.

Quite the opposite, and bankrupt in the US. Life expectancy is lower in the US, highlights poor healthcare.

 

[Concerned American]

Quite the opposite, and bankrupt in the US. Life expectancy is lower in the US, highlights poor healthcare.

Linkie.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Linkie.

 

[Concerned American]

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Now do you want to put up a link with a searchable source? Preventable causes? Like ODs? Skiing accidents? Drunk driving? Firearm deaths? You see, if you use AI, at least use one that gives you a source and explains what preventable death is.

The mortality rate in the U.S. is generally higher than in the U.K., with the U.S. experiencing significant rates of death from preventable causes such as heart disease, overdoses, and firearm violence. In 2023, the U.S. life expectancy was about 78.4 years, compared to approximately 81.3 years in England and Wales, reflecting a notable difference in health outcomes between the two countries. healthsystemtracker.org Johns Hopkins University

 

[SweetTea]

Since every other first world country offers it, maybe the Constitution isn't always what it's cracked up to be?

Every other first world country is second to the US and people flood here in droves. Our Constitution is just fine. The problem is that Democrats have embraced the entitlement culture of Europe. We subsidize Western Europe’s security so they can have the money for their pet entitlement projects. Europe should be taking pointers from us, not the other way around.

 

[SweetTea]

The ones with UHC live longer?

They aren’t as fat and happy as we are in the US. That has a downside.

 

[pknopp]

They aren’t as fat and happy as we are in the US. That has a downside.

Happiest Countries in the World 2026

Detailed data on the happiest countries in the world ranked by World Happiness Report score throughout the years.

worldpopulationreview.com

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

The ACA while far from perfect has provided health insurance to millions. Before the ACA was passed medical bankruptcies were routinely filed. The OP as usual fails to look at he down party for undermining the ACA at every turn including by not extending the tax credits, among other things. Only a fool wants to go back to the days before the ACA when hospitals see flooded with the uninsured.

Yet leftists want hospitals flooded with uninsured illegal aliens. Weird.

 

[pknopp]

Yet leftists want hospitals flooded with uninsured illegal aliens. Weird.

I want their employers to pay for that.

 

[SweetTea]

I want their employers to pay for that.

Or not to let people into the country illegally in the first place. That is the most obvious solution.

 

[pknopp]

Or not to let people into the country illegally in the first place. That is the most obvious solution.

Business gets what business wants.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

I want their employers to pay for that.

How is that possible if they don’t have a social security number?

 

[pknopp]

How is that possible if they don’t have a social security number?

I said employers, not employee. It's not that hard to figure out.

 

[SweetTea]

I said employers, not employee. It's not that hard to figure out.

So want amnesty for illegals and to give them “free” healthcare that their employers will pay for. They would then get at least minimum wage, right? Remind us again the point of having borders and the value of having citizenship in the US.

 

[pknopp]

So want amnesty for illegals and to give them “free” healthcare that their employers will pay for.

If one side of the equation gets a free pass, I support it for the other also. Either our laws are enforced against all or none IMO.

They would then get at least minimum wage, right? Remind us again the point of having borders and the value of having citizenship in the US.

There is no value in enforcing immigration laws across the board?

 

[Lesh]

It is neither. It is government control of healthcare and insurance that ensures that it will be so much more costly and inefficient/ineffective than if the ACA had never been passed.

That’s exactly backwards and if Trump and the GOP have their way premiums for ACA will DOUBLE

 

[22lcidw]

If one side of the equation gets a free pass, I support it for the other also. Either our laws are enforced against all or none IMO.



There is no value in enforcing immigration laws across the board?

Europe, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are mostly neutered although people may wake up. The United States is half neutered. We cannot accept the number of illegals as it is affecting us negatively now. When your leadership sells out the people then eventually what was free will become draconian despots to the people.

 

[pknopp]

Europe, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are mostly neutered although people may wake up. The United States is half neutered. We cannot accept the number of illegals as it is affecting us negatively now. When your leadership sells out the people then eventually what was free will become draconian despots to the people.

I wish when you reply to me, you would actually have something relevant to say.

 

[SweetTea]

If one side of the equation gets a free pass, I support it for the other also. Either our laws are enforced against all or none IMO.



There is no value in enforcing immigration laws across the board?

I have no problem holding employers who willingly hire illegals responsible. Obviously, Democrats are the ones wanting more illegals in so they evidently don’t have a problem with illegal employment either. Republicans are trying to put a stop to illegal immigration.

 

[pknopp]

I have no problem holding employers who willingly hire illegals responsible.

But we won't. In part because people like yourself keep on making excuses and don't demand it happen.

Obviously, Democrats are the ones wanting more illegals in so they evidently don’t have a problem with illegal employment either. Republicans are trying to put a stop to illegal immigration.

They don't. I never argued they did. You can't put a stop to it as long as the jobs are here.