House Republican leaders ditch vote on ACA funding, all but ensuring premiums will rise

[airplanemechanic]

“It's official: House Speaker Mike Johnson says he won't call a vote to extend enhanced subsidies under the Affordable Care Act, effectively guaranteeing they will expire at the end of this month.

That means higher insurance premiums will go into effect for millions of Americans who get coverage through Obamacare next year.

The speaker made the announcement Tuesday after a closed-door Republican caucus meeting, saying that leadership failed to reach a deal with centrist members to bring up an ACA amendment on a health care bill set for a vote on Wednesday.”

House Republican leaders ditch vote on ACA funding, all but ensuring premiums will rise

Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., said Republicans worked on the issue throughout the weekend but could not come to an agreement with a group of members who want the funds extended.

www.nbcnews.com

Death by Republican negligence.

This is about the right’s unwarranted opposition to the ACA.

This has to do with Republicans’ long ongoing efforts to destroy the ACA – unable to repeal the Act, Republicans seek to cripple the ACA by ending access to affordable healthcare.

The right’s meritless contempt for the ACA has nothing to do with its provisions and everything to do with the president who signed the Act into law.

Good. If the ACA were so good, it wouldn't need taxpayer subsidies. Those subsidies were ONLY for Covid. Covid is over. Subsidies should be, too.

This is simply an indication of how badly democrats failed in 2010 shoving this losing piece of legislation down the throats of Americans.

STOP MAKING TAXPAYERS PAY FOR OTHER PEOPLES HEALTHCARE.

 

[Marener]

Good. If the ACA were so good, it wouldn't need taxpayer subsidies.

This is simply an indication of how badly democrats failed in 2010 shoving this losing piece of legislation down the throats of Americans.

STOP MAKING TAXPAYERS PAY FOR OTHER PEOPLES HEALTHCARE.

So you want to end Medicare? Bold move.

 

[airplanemechanic]

So you want to end Medicare? Bold move.

No, I want to end the ACA subsidies. This thread is about ACA subsidies. Try to keep up. I can support Medicare and not support ACA subsidies because those go to EVERYONE, even those who shouldn't even get it. America didn't want Obamacare and got it shoved down our throats. Now liberals like you are begging for taxpayers to subsidize it because it's not working like we were told it would. We said all along, it's going to drive up costs. And it did. Yet again, Republicans were right.

Medicare is overwhelmingly for old or disabled people, I'm fine with that.

 

[Marener]

No, I want to end the ACA subsidies. This thread is about ACA subsidies. Try to keep up.

But taxpayers are paying for Medicare, meaning they’re paying for other people’s healthcare.

And you want to stop that.

Lemme guess. You’re on Medicare?

Medicare doesn’t go to everyone. It only goes to old people (and a few others).

 

[Auld Phart]

Good. If the ACA were so good, it wouldn't need taxpayer subsidies. Those subsidies were ONLY for Covid. Covid is over. Subsidies should be, too.

This is simply an indication of how badly democrats failed in 2010 shoving this losing piece of legislation down the throats of Americans.

STOP MAKING TAXPAYERS PAY FOR OTHER PEOPLES HEALTHCARE.

This is simply an indication of how badly democrats failed in 2010 shoving this losing piece of legislation down the throats of Americans.

IF only they had read it before they passed it.

 

[Auld Phart]

No, I want to end the ACA subsidies. This thread is about ACA subsidies. Try to keep up. I can support Medicare and not support ACA subsidies because those go to EVERYONE, even those who shouldn't even get it. America didn't want Obamacare and got it shoved down our throats. Now liberals like you are begging for taxpayers to subsidize it because it's not working like we were told it would. We said all along, it's going to drive up costs. And it did. Yet again, Republicans were right.

Medicare is overwhelmingly for old or disabled people, I'm fine with that.

she can't

 

[Marener]

IF only they had read it before they passed it.

We all know you guys didn’t read it.

Did you ever find the death panels?

 

[Greenbeard]

Good. If the ACA were so good, it wouldn't need taxpayer subsidies.

Right, and if Medicare were so good it wouldn’t buy old people’s health care.

 

[Auld Phart]

We all know you guys didn’t read it.

Did you ever find the death panels?

did your guys read it?

or did they take Nancy at her word?

Maybe if your guys had read it then, we wouldn't be in the current mess.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Right, and if Medicare were so good it wouldn’t buy old people’s health care.

This is not about Medicare. ACA is not medicare. Try to keep up. If you want to talk about Medicare, start a thread.

If Medicare was designed to be temporary, I would support killing it, too. Just like I support killing the ACA TEMPORARY subsidies.

 

[Marener]

did your guys read it?

or did they take Nancy at her word?

Maybe if your guys had read it then, we wouldn't be in the current mess.

No, I spent a lot of time reading it.

Pelosi was saying conservative know nothings can't or won't read it, meaning that you won't know what's in it until it actually happens. Case in point, death panels. Sarah Palin got a lot of morons to believe in death panels. Did they read that in the bill? No. But they passed it and now we all know there are no death panels.

Pelosi was right.

 

[dudmuck]

It is difficult to eliminate programs once started and some foundation builds. It will e interesting to see Progressive proposed legislation if they win the House next November. Theare going to have to add hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars to their budget to make up for at least cutting out some of the waste, fraud abuse and corruption of programs. The Somalians alone are master thieves from what we are reading.

 

[Marener]

This is not about Medicare. ACA is not medicare. Try to keep up. If you want to talk about Medicare, start a thread.

Medicare is a disaster.

So you should amend your statement.

It should read: "STOP MAKING TAXPAYERS PAY FOR OTHER PEOPLES HEALTHCARE UNLESS ITS MY HEALTHCARE THEN MAKE TAXPAYERS PAY FOR IT"

 

[airplanemechanic]

Medicare is a disaster.

So you should amend your statement.

It should read: "STOP MAKING TAXPAYERS PAY FOR OTHER PEOPLES HEALTHCARE UNLESS ITS MY HEALTHCARE THEN MAKE TAXPAYERS PAY FOR IT"

I'm not on medicare, ************. I pay 120 dollars a week for my own healthcare. I don't want to pay for Medicare or use it, but it's being taken out of my paycheck so when the time comes, **** yea I'm using it. I paid for it.

I hate the idea of Medicare, but it was voted on and America supports it. They don't support Obamacare, never have, never will.

 

[Greenbeard]

This is not about Medicare. ACA is not medicare. Try to keep up. If you want to talk about Medicare, start a thread.

If Medicare was designed to be temporary, I would support killing it, too. Just like I support killing the ACA TEMPORARY subsidies.

Oh, you must have been deeply disappointed when the temporary Trump tax credits were extended.

 

[Marener]

I'm not on medicare, ************. I pay 120 dollars a week for my own healthcare.

I hate the idea of Medicare, but it was voted on and America supports it. They don't support Obamacare, never have, never will.

The ACA was voted on too!

It sure looks like America supports the ACA..

Independents Drive Approval of ACA to New High of 57%

Americans' approval of the Affordable Care Act has risen to a new high, fueled by increased support among political independents.

news.gallup.com

I mean, Republicans don't support it. Do you think that you have to be a Republican to be an American?

 

[airplanemechanic]

The ACA was voted on too!

It sure looks like America supports the ACA..

It was NOT supported by American citizens. 60% of Americans were against the ACA when democrats shoved it down our throats. According to Pew research, only 40% of Americans approved of Obamacare. That means a vast majority were against it.

Five Reasons Obamacare is a Failure

edworkforce.house.gov

Breakdown of Public Opinion in 2010

• Overall Opinion: Shortly after the law was enacted in April 2010, a Pew Research Center survey found that 40% approved.

1. Obamacare has increased the cost of health care and health insurance.
2. Obamacare increases Americans’ reliance on the federal government.
3. On a per person basis, Obamacare is far more expensive than anticipated for taxpayers.
4. Obamacare’s “expansion” is due in large part to improper Medicaid enrollments.
5. Obamacare is one step closer to socialized health care.

Obamacare is socialized healthcare, lite.

 

[Marener]

It was NOT supported by American citizens. 70% of Americans were against the ACA when democrats shoved it down our throats.

Maybe because a lot of them didn't know what was in it. I bet a lot of you morons thought it had death panels.

Since it was passed, and we all saw what was in it, it's approval has consistently increased.

Independents Drive Approval of ACA to New High of 57%

Americans' approval of the Affordable Care Act has risen to a new high, fueled by increased support among political independents.

news.gallup.com

 

[Auld Phart]

Maybe because a lot of them didn't know what was in it. I bet a lot of you morons thought it had death panels.

Since it was passed, and we all saw what was in it, it's approval has consistently increased.

Independents Drive Approval of ACA to New High of 57%

Americans' approval of the Affordable Care Act has risen to a new high, fueled by increased support among political independents.

news.gallup.com

 

[Marener]

Imagine that? A 6 second clip devoid of context might give you a misleading idea of what she meant.

Don't be a dupe.

The Context Behind Nancy Pelosi’s Famous ‘We Have to Pass the Bill’ Quote

On NBC News' Meet the Press Sunday morning, host David Gregory resurrected a favorite right-wing attack on the Affordable Care Act, asking House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) to defend her 2010 comment that "we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog...

www.mediaite.com