Hard Working Americans?

[ShawnChris13]

Here's a blog from the White House. Are people receiving Medicaid really considered hard working Americans? It seems like they're getting a lot of free stuff to me.





Today, HHS released its first monthly report on Medicaid enrollment and enrollment in the Children’s Health Insurance Program – and it’s good news. Thanks to the Affordable Care Act and decisions by Democratic and Republican elected officials in 26 states to expand their Medicaid programs, 1.46 million hardworking Americans have applied for and been deemed eligible to enroll in quality, affordable health care.

More hardworking Americans will know the security of health care coverage in states that chose to expand Medicaid than those states that chose to recklessly and irresponsibly deny health coverage to millions of Americans. In fact, if every state expanded Medicaid coverage, over 5.4 million more Americans—and more than 1 million in Texas alone—would get health coverage. And today’s report showed that states that expanded Medicaid have seen over a 15 percent increase in applications for Medicaid and CHIP, compared to the average monthly enrollment in the three preceding months. While states that refused to expand Medicaid only saw a 4.1 percent increase in applications.

This spike in applications confirmed what we have always known: hardworking Americans need and want the security of affordable health coverage.

In recent weeks, President Obama and our team have worked to make the case for all states to expand Medicaid so more uninsured Americans can get covered. Right now, we know that 6 in 10 uninsured Americans will have access to coverage for $100 per month or less next year because of the health care law. But if every state followed the lead of Democratic and Republican leaders in in the 26 states that have expanded Medicaid then that number would rise to 8 in 10 Americans.

In the coming months, the President will not stop fighting to make sure we are doing everything we can to give hardworking Americans in every state access to the security of quality, affordable health care that they deserve. Today’s Medicaid enrollment report is an encouraging first sign of progress, but there is more work to do.

 

[Clementine]

It wasn't necessary to make sweeping and damaging changes in our health care system to help the few without insurance, which was actually between 7 and 8 million people. They could have expanded Medicaid, which they are doing now. That would have been a quick and simple solution to the problem IF they really wanted to help people get insured. This is just more proof that health care was not the goal. Transferring power and wealth redistribution was the goal.

They had 3 years to build the website and it looks like something that was put together in one day. The hefty price tag, paid to Michelle Obama's college friend, is a huge rip off considering what we got for the money. $634 million was spent prior to the disasterous launch of the website and now well over $1 billion has been thrown at the site in attempts to repair it. The repairs were made to allow people to type in their information, but the security still poses major issues for the public. It's unfair to tell people to go to the website knowing that hackers could easily steal their identities or, at the very least, empty their bank accounts. Security when it comes to sensitive personal information of the public is NOT a concern of this administration. It also was reported today that at least 30% of the people who think they successfully signed up for insurance are actually still without insurance. Most won't know it until they seek medical care in January. The information was lost in some cases and information was somehow mixed up, so the info isn't accurate. To top it off, there is no system in place for paying insurance premiums for the subsidized. The website doesn't even have that feature built into it yet. For now, the government is just going to trust insurance companies (after years of vilifying them) to tell them an approximate amount they are owed and the government will write big checks and "true it up" later. This is truly the most disorganized roll out of any government program ever.

Even when the website is fixed, the Obamacare law itself remains a disaster for the middle class. It's those working full time and living paycheck to paycheck that will bear the brunt of costs for subsidizing people and they will pay increased taxes estimated at $6,000 annually. Those costs are in addition to having to pay up to three times more for their own insurance, which will likely have a much higher deductible than their old one. Too many can no longer afford health insurance and will face fines.

Millions who previously had insurance are now without and the number will rise significantly. The number of uninsured now will be far greater than the number who were uninsured before this unconstitutional bill was passed by the Democrats. That is even more proof that the law has nothing to do with health care.

Despite the fact that people don't like having their choices taken from them and they cannot afford the more expensive plans because of Obamacare, the administration has insisted that we keep going forward. They have all this new power and will not let go. They will destroy the middle class and bring this country to it's knees and all because they refuse to admit they were wrong to push this law through. To admit that Obamacare is a failure is to admit that liberalism is a failure.

No liberal wants to talk about the fact that people have lost their plans and their doctors. It's one thing to change to a different insurance company, but people are losing the doctors they have trusted for years. The doctor-patient relationship is sacred and the liberals just intervened in the most personal aspect of our lives. The same ones who insist that all companies provide plans that include abortions because a woman has total say about her body are now willing to say government should have control over our bodies. For them to support Obamacare, with the mandatory body fat tests, forcing us to leave our trusted doctors and allow strangers to treat us and not allowing us to have any say in our treatment is hypocritical. A woman will have control over her body until a panel decides that a cancer treatment is too expensive or she is too old to warrant spending money on a pacemaker. Then it's all government control over what happens to our bodies.

I am tired of liberals taking such a cavalier attitude towards this rude intrusion into lives and telling us to suck it up because it's the law. They tell us we'll be better off, even as millions now face going into the future with NO insurance or are paying way more than they can comfortably afford. Insurance won't even help many because the deductable are so high that 100% of their medical expenses will be out of pocket from here on, at least barring any major illness. Liberals still say we are supposed to be happier now, as if they have a fucking clue what is best for each of us. Many of us were fine and had already decided what we wanted and we were happy with our choices. It was not necessary for all of us to be forced to give up what we had just to cover a small percent of people. Again, this clearly was never about health care. It's about liberals pushing their beliefs on everyone else and claiming it's for the greater good.

Liberals love Obamacare now and they will praise their messiah for this, at least until it's them in the hospice being fed pain pills because they were denied that triple bypass or the newest cancer treatment. Will the liberals here feel different when government says their life isn't worth the money to save it?

If any of you liberals here are old or in poor health, how can you feel good about this new approach to health care?

Or do you realize that this is an extremely corrupt government and assume that you will be spared when the death panels see you are a registered Democrat?

 

[ilia25]

Here's a blog from the White House. Are people receiving Medicaid really considered hard working Americans? It seems like they're getting a lot of free stuff to me.

Here is your problem right there. You are incapable of telling apart two distinct concepts -- working hard and being helped.

I mean seriously, what kind of thought process can lead to a conclusion that no hard working American can qualify for Medicaid?

Do you have any idea, how much Walmart sales clerks make? Or staff at your local McDonalds?

Or maybe you think that every hard working American should have got a college degree and become a CEO? Who do you think would work at Wallmart then?

 

[ilia25]

It wasn't necessary to make sweeping and damaging changes in our health care system to help the few without insurance, which was actually between 7 and 8 million people. They could have expanded Medicaid, which they are doing now. That would have been a quick and simple solution to the problem IF they really wanted to help people get insured. This is just more proof that health care was not the goal. Transferring power and wealth redistribution was the goal.

They had 3 years to build the website and it looks like something that was put together in one day. The hefty price tag, paid to Michelle Obama's college friend, is a huge rip off considering what we got for the money. $634 million was spent prior to the disasterous launch of the website and now well over $1 billion has been thrown at the site in attempts to repair it. The repairs were made to allow people to type in their information, but the security still poses major issues for the public. It's unfair to tell people to go to the website knowing that hackers could easily steal their identities or, at the very least, empty their bank accounts. Security when it comes to sensitive personal information of the public is NOT a concern of this administration. It also was reported today that at least 30% of the people who think they successfully signed up for insurance are actually still without insurance. Most won't know it until they seek medical care in January. The information was lost in some cases and information was somehow mixed up, so the info isn't accurate. To top it off, there is no system in place for paying insurance premiums for the subsidized. The website doesn't even have that feature built into it yet. For now, the government is just going to trust insurance companies (after years of vilifying them) to tell them an approximate amount they are owed and the government will write big checks and "true it up" later. This is truly the most disorganized roll out of any government program ever.

Even when the website is fixed, the Obamacare law itself remains a disaster for the middle class. It's those working full time and living paycheck to paycheck that will bear the brunt of costs for subsidizing people and they will pay increased taxes estimated at $6,000 annually. Those costs are in addition to having to pay up to three times more for their own insurance, which will likely have a much higher deductible than their old one. Too many can no longer afford health insurance and will face fines.

Millions who previously had insurance are now without and the number will rise significantly. The number of uninsured now will be far greater than the number who were uninsured before this unconstitutional bill was passed by the Democrats. That is even more proof that the law has nothing to do with health care.

Despite the fact that people don't like having their choices taken from them and they cannot afford the more expensive plans because of Obamacare, the administration has insisted that we keep going forward. They have all this new power and will not let go. They will destroy the middle class and bring this country to it's knees and all because they refuse to admit they were wrong to push this law through. To admit that Obamacare is a failure is to admit that liberalism is a failure.

No liberal wants to talk about the fact that people have lost their plans and their doctors. It's one thing to change to a different insurance company, but people are losing the doctors they have trusted for years. The doctor-patient relationship is sacred and the liberals just intervened in the most personal aspect of our lives. The same ones who insist that all companies provide plans that include abortions because a woman has total say about her body are now willing to say government should have control over our bodies. For them to support Obamacare, with the mandatory body fat tests, forcing us to leave our trusted doctors and allow strangers to treat us and not allowing us to have any say in our treatment is hypocritical. A woman will have control over her body until a panel decides that a cancer treatment is too expensive or she is too old to warrant spending money on a pacemaker. Then it's all government control over what happens to our bodies.

I am tired of liberals taking such a cavalier attitude towards this rude intrusion into lives and telling us to suck it up because it's the law. They tell us we'll be better off, even as millions now face going into the future with NO insurance or are paying way more than they can comfortably afford. Insurance won't even help many because the deductable are so high that 100% of their medical expenses will be out of pocket from here on, at least barring any major illness. Liberals still say we are supposed to be happier now, as if they have a fucking clue what is best for each of us. Many of us were fine and had already decided what we wanted and we were happy with our choices. It was not necessary for all of us to be forced to give up what we had just to cover a small percent of people. Again, this clearly was never about health care. It's about liberals pushing their beliefs on everyone else and claiming it's for the greater good.

Liberals love Obamacare now and they will praise their messiah for this, at least until it's them in the hospice being fed pain pills because they were denied that triple bypass or the newest cancer treatment. Will the liberals here feel different when government says their life isn't worth the money to save it?

If any of you liberals here are old or in poor health, how can you feel good about this new approach to health care?

Or do you realize that this is an extremely corrupt government and assume that you will be spared when the death panels see you are a registered Democrat?

Amazing.. Do you really believe what you have written here?

 

[ShawnChris13]

Here's a blog from the White House. Are people receiving Medicaid really considered hard working Americans? It seems like they're getting a lot of free stuff to me.

Here is your problem right there. You are incapable of telling apart two distinct concepts -- working hard and being helped.

I mean seriously, what kind of thought process can lead to a conclusion that no hard working American can qualify for Medicaid?

Do you have any idea, how much Walmart sales clerks make? Or staff at your local McDonalds?

Or maybe you think that every hard working American should have got a college degree and become a CEO? Who do you think would work at Wallmart then?

I think that 1.6 million people hat need help aren't all hard working. I wouldn't even guess half. They make little money because they work at wal mart. That's ok for a while, but seriously, find a different job. It can happen. If people stopped letting wal mart get away with its bull**** it does to its employees they would eventually pay fair wages.

 

[PixieStix]

Here's a blog from the White House. Are people receiving Medicaid really considered hard working Americans? It seems like they're getting a lot of free stuff to me.

Here is your problem right there. You are incapable of telling apart two distinct concepts -- working hard and being helped.

I mean seriously, what kind of thought process can lead to a conclusion that no hard working American can qualify for Medicaid?

Do you have any idea, how much Walmart sales clerks make? Or staff at your local McDonalds?

Or maybe you think that every hard working American should have got a college degree and become a CEO? Who do you think would work at Wallmart then?

I think that 1.6 million people hat need help aren't all hard working. I wouldn't even guess half. They make little money because they work at wal mart. That's ok for a while, but seriously, find a different job. It can happen. If people stopped letting wal mart get away with its bull**** it does to its employees they would eventually pay fair wages.

Who are you to tell people where they should work? Who are you to say they are not hardworking individuals? At least they are working. Those people are not the problem. The problem is obamacare taking the right to choose our own healthcare.... or not.

People being forced into medicaid is the problem. Forcing wealthier Americans to pick up the slack on these Americans, when they are simply trying to make their own way.

> READ> Hopkins: ObamaCare Forced Mom Into Medicaid - WSJ.com

Again Obama has become the great and awesome divider

 

[ShawnChris13]

I agree with you pixie. But I'm not saying where they should work. Wal Mart has been streamlining everything, including the work force to make it cheaper. That's why everyone protests when a new store comes into town because they know they will kill jobs.

 

[RightDown]

It wasn't necessary to make sweeping and damaging changes in our health care system to help the few without insurance, which was actually between 7 and 8 million people. They could have expanded Medicaid, which they are doing now. That would have been a quick and simple solution to the problem IF they really wanted to help people get insured. This is just more proof that health care was not the goal. Transferring power and wealth redistribution was the goal.

They had 3 years to build the website and it looks like something that was put together in one day. The hefty price tag, paid to Michelle Obama's college friend, is a huge rip off considering what we got for the money. $634 million was spent prior to the disasterous launch of the website and now well over $1 billion has been thrown at the site in attempts to repair it. The repairs were made to allow people to type in their information, but the security still poses major issues for the public. It's unfair to tell people to go to the website knowing that hackers could easily steal their identities or, at the very least, empty their bank accounts. Security when it comes to sensitive personal information of the public is NOT a concern of this administration. It also was reported today that at least 30% of the people who think they successfully signed up for insurance are actually still without insurance. Most won't know it until they seek medical care in January. The information was lost in some cases and information was somehow mixed up, so the info isn't accurate. To top it off, there is no system in place for paying insurance premiums for the subsidized. The website doesn't even have that feature built into it yet. For now, the government is just going to trust insurance companies (after years of vilifying them) to tell them an approximate amount they are owed and the government will write big checks and "true it up" later. This is truly the most disorganized roll out of any government program ever.

Even when the website is fixed, the Obamacare law itself remains a disaster for the middle class. It's those working full time and living paycheck to paycheck that will bear the brunt of costs for subsidizing people and they will pay increased taxes estimated at $6,000 annually. Those costs are in addition to having to pay up to three times more for their own insurance, which will likely have a much higher deductible than their old one. Too many can no longer afford health insurance and will face fines.

Millions who previously had insurance are now without and the number will rise significantly. The number of uninsured now will be far greater than the number who were uninsured before this unconstitutional bill was passed by the Democrats. That is even more proof that the law has nothing to do with health care.

Despite the fact that people don't like having their choices taken from them and they cannot afford the more expensive plans because of Obamacare, the administration has insisted that we keep going forward. They have all this new power and will not let go. They will destroy the middle class and bring this country to it's knees and all because they refuse to admit they were wrong to push this law through. To admit that Obamacare is a failure is to admit that liberalism is a failure.

No liberal wants to talk about the fact that people have lost their plans and their doctors. It's one thing to change to a different insurance company, but people are losing the doctors they have trusted for years. The doctor-patient relationship is sacred and the liberals just intervened in the most personal aspect of our lives. The same ones who insist that all companies provide plans that include abortions because a woman has total say about her body are now willing to say government should have control over our bodies. For them to support Obamacare, with the mandatory body fat tests, forcing us to leave our trusted doctors and allow strangers to treat us and not allowing us to have any say in our treatment is hypocritical. A woman will have control over her body until a panel decides that a cancer treatment is too expensive or she is too old to warrant spending money on a pacemaker. Then it's all government control over what happens to our bodies.

I am tired of liberals taking such a cavalier attitude towards this rude intrusion into lives and telling us to suck it up because it's the law. They tell us we'll be better off, even as millions now face going into the future with NO insurance or are paying way more than they can comfortably afford. Insurance won't even help many because the deductable are so high that 100% of their medical expenses will be out of pocket from here on, at least barring any major illness. Liberals still say we are supposed to be happier now, as if they have a fucking clue what is best for each of us. Many of us were fine and had already decided what we wanted and we were happy with our choices. It was not necessary for all of us to be forced to give up what we had just to cover a small percent of people. Again, this clearly was never about health care. It's about liberals pushing their beliefs on everyone else and claiming it's for the greater good.

Liberals love Obamacare now and they will praise their messiah for this, at least until it's them in the hospice being fed pain pills because they were denied that triple bypass or the newest cancer treatment. Will the liberals here feel different when government says their life isn't worth the money to save it?

If any of you liberals here are old or in poor health, how can you feel good about this new approach to health care?

Or do you realize that this is an extremely corrupt government and assume that you will be spared when the death panels see you are a registered Democrat?

It's not Obama that made government corrupt...llike a black man showing up at the white house and all of a sudden we have log rolling.

You do realize that the people that own you and me also own our government. No shock there. The liberals I know, including myself, do not like the ACA at all but it is better than nothing.

The ACA is a right wing republican plan born in the Heritage Foundation.

Obama is a president that legislates center-right. Hardly a liberal. He does what he's permitted to do by our owners....the same owners that control both political parties. This is not a secret.

 

[PixieStix]

It wasn't necessary to make sweeping and damaging changes in our health care system to help the few without insurance, which was actually between 7 and 8 million people. They could have expanded Medicaid, which they are doing now. That would have been a quick and simple solution to the problem IF they really wanted to help people get insured. This is just more proof that health care was not the goal. Transferring power and wealth redistribution was the goal.

They had 3 years to build the website and it looks like something that was put together in one day. The hefty price tag, paid to Michelle Obama's college friend, is a huge rip off considering what we got for the money. $634 million was spent prior to the disasterous launch of the website and now well over $1 billion has been thrown at the site in attempts to repair it. The repairs were made to allow people to type in their information, but the security still poses major issues for the public. It's unfair to tell people to go to the website knowing that hackers could easily steal their identities or, at the very least, empty their bank accounts. Security when it comes to sensitive personal information of the public is NOT a concern of this administration. It also was reported today that at least 30% of the people who think they successfully signed up for insurance are actually still without insurance. Most won't know it until they seek medical care in January. The information was lost in some cases and information was somehow mixed up, so the info isn't accurate. To top it off, there is no system in place for paying insurance premiums for the subsidized. The website doesn't even have that feature built into it yet. For now, the government is just going to trust insurance companies (after years of vilifying them) to tell them an approximate amount they are owed and the government will write big checks and "true it up" later. This is truly the most disorganized roll out of any government program ever.

Even when the website is fixed, the Obamacare law itself remains a disaster for the middle class. It's those working full time and living paycheck to paycheck that will bear the brunt of costs for subsidizing people and they will pay increased taxes estimated at $6,000 annually. Those costs are in addition to having to pay up to three times more for their own insurance, which will likely have a much higher deductible than their old one. Too many can no longer afford health insurance and will face fines.

Millions who previously had insurance are now without and the number will rise significantly. The number of uninsured now will be far greater than the number who were uninsured before this unconstitutional bill was passed by the Democrats. That is even more proof that the law has nothing to do with health care.

Despite the fact that people don't like having their choices taken from them and they cannot afford the more expensive plans because of Obamacare, the administration has insisted that we keep going forward. They have all this new power and will not let go. They will destroy the middle class and bring this country to it's knees and all because they refuse to admit they were wrong to push this law through. To admit that Obamacare is a failure is to admit that liberalism is a failure.

No liberal wants to talk about the fact that people have lost their plans and their doctors. It's one thing to change to a different insurance company, but people are losing the doctors they have trusted for years. The doctor-patient relationship is sacred and the liberals just intervened in the most personal aspect of our lives. The same ones who insist that all companies provide plans that include abortions because a woman has total say about her body are now willing to say government should have control over our bodies. For them to support Obamacare, with the mandatory body fat tests, forcing us to leave our trusted doctors and allow strangers to treat us and not allowing us to have any say in our treatment is hypocritical. A woman will have control over her body until a panel decides that a cancer treatment is too expensive or she is too old to warrant spending money on a pacemaker. Then it's all government control over what happens to our bodies.

I am tired of liberals taking such a cavalier attitude towards this rude intrusion into lives and telling us to suck it up because it's the law. They tell us we'll be better off, even as millions now face going into the future with NO insurance or are paying way more than they can comfortably afford. Insurance won't even help many because the deductable are so high that 100% of their medical expenses will be out of pocket from here on, at least barring any major illness. Liberals still say we are supposed to be happier now, as if they have a fucking clue what is best for each of us. Many of us were fine and had already decided what we wanted and we were happy with our choices. It was not necessary for all of us to be forced to give up what we had just to cover a small percent of people. Again, this clearly was never about health care. It's about liberals pushing their beliefs on everyone else and claiming it's for the greater good.

Liberals love Obamacare now and they will praise their messiah for this, at least until it's them in the hospice being fed pain pills because they were denied that triple bypass or the newest cancer treatment. Will the liberals here feel different when government says their life isn't worth the money to save it?

If any of you liberals here are old or in poor health, how can you feel good about this new approach to health care?

Or do you realize that this is an extremely corrupt government and assume that you will be spared when the death panels see you are a registered Democrat?

It's not Obama that made government corrupt...llike a black man showing up at the white house and all of a sudden we have log rolling.

You do realize that the people that own you and me also own our government. No shock there. The liberals I know, including myself, do not like the ACA at all but it is better than nothing.

The ACA is a right wing republican plan born in the Heritage Foundation.

Obama is a president that legislates center-right. Hardly a liberal. He does what he's permitted to do by our owners....the same owners that control both political parties. This is not a secret.

Are you a comedian in real life? Cuz that is hilarious

I especially love the way you spin and turn the tables when the lefty utopian dream is becoming a nightmare for everyone

 

[Darkwind]

It wasn't necessary to make sweeping and damaging changes in our health care system to help the few without insurance, which was actually between 7 and 8 million people. They could have expanded Medicaid, which they are doing now. That would have been a quick and simple solution to the problem IF they really wanted to help people get insured. This is just more proof that health care was not the goal. Transferring power and wealth redistribution was the goal.

They had 3 years to build the website and it looks like something that was put together in one day. The hefty price tag, paid to Michelle Obama's college friend, is a huge rip off considering what we got for the money. $634 million was spent prior to the disasterous launch of the website and now well over $1 billion has been thrown at the site in attempts to repair it. The repairs were made to allow people to type in their information, but the security still poses major issues for the public. It's unfair to tell people to go to the website knowing that hackers could easily steal their identities or, at the very least, empty their bank accounts. Security when it comes to sensitive personal information of the public is NOT a concern of this administration. It also was reported today that at least 30% of the people who think they successfully signed up for insurance are actually still without insurance. Most won't know it until they seek medical care in January. The information was lost in some cases and information was somehow mixed up, so the info isn't accurate. To top it off, there is no system in place for paying insurance premiums for the subsidized. The website doesn't even have that feature built into it yet. For now, the government is just going to trust insurance companies (after years of vilifying them) to tell them an approximate amount they are owed and the government will write big checks and "true it up" later. This is truly the most disorganized roll out of any government program ever.

Even when the website is fixed, the Obamacare law itself remains a disaster for the middle class. It's those working full time and living paycheck to paycheck that will bear the brunt of costs for subsidizing people and they will pay increased taxes estimated at $6,000 annually. Those costs are in addition to having to pay up to three times more for their own insurance, which will likely have a much higher deductible than their old one. Too many can no longer afford health insurance and will face fines.

Millions who previously had insurance are now without and the number will rise significantly. The number of uninsured now will be far greater than the number who were uninsured before this unconstitutional bill was passed by the Democrats. That is even more proof that the law has nothing to do with health care.

Despite the fact that people don't like having their choices taken from them and they cannot afford the more expensive plans because of Obamacare, the administration has insisted that we keep going forward. They have all this new power and will not let go. They will destroy the middle class and bring this country to it's knees and all because they refuse to admit they were wrong to push this law through. To admit that Obamacare is a failure is to admit that liberalism is a failure.

No liberal wants to talk about the fact that people have lost their plans and their doctors. It's one thing to change to a different insurance company, but people are losing the doctors they have trusted for years. The doctor-patient relationship is sacred and the liberals just intervened in the most personal aspect of our lives. The same ones who insist that all companies provide plans that include abortions because a woman has total say about her body are now willing to say government should have control over our bodies. For them to support Obamacare, with the mandatory body fat tests, forcing us to leave our trusted doctors and allow strangers to treat us and not allowing us to have any say in our treatment is hypocritical. A woman will have control over her body until a panel decides that a cancer treatment is too expensive or she is too old to warrant spending money on a pacemaker. Then it's all government control over what happens to our bodies.

I am tired of liberals taking such a cavalier attitude towards this rude intrusion into lives and telling us to suck it up because it's the law. They tell us we'll be better off, even as millions now face going into the future with NO insurance or are paying way more than they can comfortably afford. Insurance won't even help many because the deductable are so high that 100% of their medical expenses will be out of pocket from here on, at least barring any major illness. Liberals still say we are supposed to be happier now, as if they have a fucking clue what is best for each of us. Many of us were fine and had already decided what we wanted and we were happy with our choices. It was not necessary for all of us to be forced to give up what we had just to cover a small percent of people. Again, this clearly was never about health care. It's about liberals pushing their beliefs on everyone else and claiming it's for the greater good.

Liberals love Obamacare now and they will praise their messiah for this, at least until it's them in the hospice being fed pain pills because they were denied that triple bypass or the newest cancer treatment. Will the liberals here feel different when government says their life isn't worth the money to save it?

If any of you liberals here are old or in poor health, how can you feel good about this new approach to health care?

Or do you realize that this is an extremely corrupt government and assume that you will be spared when the death panels see you are a registered Democrat?

It's not Obama that made government corrupt...llike a black man showing up at the white house and all of a sudden we have log rolling.

You do realize that the people that own you and me also own our government. No shock there. The liberals I know, including myself, do not like the ACA at all but it is better than nothing.

The ACA is a right wing republican plan born in the Heritage Foundation.

Obama is a president that legislates center-right. Hardly a liberal. He does what he's permitted to do by our owners....the same owners that control both political parties. This is not a secret.

Thanks. Saves Me the effort to determine just how unstable you really are.

Say buh-bye.

 

[RightDown]

It wasn't necessary to make sweeping and damaging changes in our health care system to help the few without insurance, which was actually between 7 and 8 million people. They could have expanded Medicaid, which they are doing now. That would have been a quick and simple solution to the problem IF they really wanted to help people get insured. This is just more proof that health care was not the goal. Transferring power and wealth redistribution was the goal.

They had 3 years to build the website and it looks like something that was put together in one day. The hefty price tag, paid to Michelle Obama's college friend, is a huge rip off considering what we got for the money. $634 million was spent prior to the disasterous launch of the website and now well over $1 billion has been thrown at the site in attempts to repair it. The repairs were made to allow people to type in their information, but the security still poses major issues for the public. It's unfair to tell people to go to the website knowing that hackers could easily steal their identities or, at the very least, empty their bank accounts. Security when it comes to sensitive personal information of the public is NOT a concern of this administration. It also was reported today that at least 30% of the people who think they successfully signed up for insurance are actually still without insurance. Most won't know it until they seek medical care in January. The information was lost in some cases and information was somehow mixed up, so the info isn't accurate. To top it off, there is no system in place for paying insurance premiums for the subsidized. The website doesn't even have that feature built into it yet. For now, the government is just going to trust insurance companies (after years of vilifying them) to tell them an approximate amount they are owed and the government will write big checks and "true it up" later. This is truly the most disorganized roll out of any government program ever.

Even when the website is fixed, the Obamacare law itself remains a disaster for the middle class. It's those working full time and living paycheck to paycheck that will bear the brunt of costs for subsidizing people and they will pay increased taxes estimated at $6,000 annually. Those costs are in addition to having to pay up to three times more for their own insurance, which will likely have a much higher deductible than their old one. Too many can no longer afford health insurance and will face fines.

Millions who previously had insurance are now without and the number will rise significantly. The number of uninsured now will be far greater than the number who were uninsured before this unconstitutional bill was passed by the Democrats. That is even more proof that the law has nothing to do with health care.

Despite the fact that people don't like having their choices taken from them and they cannot afford the more expensive plans because of Obamacare, the administration has insisted that we keep going forward. They have all this new power and will not let go. They will destroy the middle class and bring this country to it's knees and all because they refuse to admit they were wrong to push this law through. To admit that Obamacare is a failure is to admit that liberalism is a failure.

No liberal wants to talk about the fact that people have lost their plans and their doctors. It's one thing to change to a different insurance company, but people are losing the doctors they have trusted for years. The doctor-patient relationship is sacred and the liberals just intervened in the most personal aspect of our lives. The same ones who insist that all companies provide plans that include abortions because a woman has total say about her body are now willing to say government should have control over our bodies. For them to support Obamacare, with the mandatory body fat tests, forcing us to leave our trusted doctors and allow strangers to treat us and not allowing us to have any say in our treatment is hypocritical. A woman will have control over her body until a panel decides that a cancer treatment is too expensive or she is too old to warrant spending money on a pacemaker. Then it's all government control over what happens to our bodies.

I am tired of liberals taking such a cavalier attitude towards this rude intrusion into lives and telling us to suck it up because it's the law. They tell us we'll be better off, even as millions now face going into the future with NO insurance or are paying way more than they can comfortably afford. Insurance won't even help many because the deductable are so high that 100% of their medical expenses will be out of pocket from here on, at least barring any major illness. Liberals still say we are supposed to be happier now, as if they have a fucking clue what is best for each of us. Many of us were fine and had already decided what we wanted and we were happy with our choices. It was not necessary for all of us to be forced to give up what we had just to cover a small percent of people. Again, this clearly was never about health care. It's about liberals pushing their beliefs on everyone else and claiming it's for the greater good.

Liberals love Obamacare now and they will praise their messiah for this, at least until it's them in the hospice being fed pain pills because they were denied that triple bypass or the newest cancer treatment. Will the liberals here feel different when government says their life isn't worth the money to save it?

If any of you liberals here are old or in poor health, how can you feel good about this new approach to health care?

Or do you realize that this is an extremely corrupt government and assume that you will be spared when the death panels see you are a registered Democrat?

It's not Obama that made government corrupt...llike a black man showing up at the white house and all of a sudden we have log rolling.

You do realize that the people that own you and me also own our government. No shock there. The liberals I know, including myself, do not like the ACA at all but it is better than nothing.

The ACA is a right wing republican plan born in the Heritage Foundation.

Obama is a president that legislates center-right. Hardly a liberal. He does what he's permitted to do by our owners....the same owners that control both political parties. This is not a secret.

Are you a comedian in real life? Cuz that is hilarious

I especially love the way you spin and turn the tables when the lefty utopian dream is becoming a nightmare for everyone

Thanks for adding that.

 

[Moonglow]

I agree with you pixie. But I'm not saying where they should work. Wal Mart has been streamlining everything, including the work force to make it cheaper. That's why everyone protests when a new store comes into town because they know they will kill jobs.

Not really. I worked for Wal Mart warehouse #4 after getting out of the military(1986). Low wages is all that was given then also, and a work schedule that was never a full 40 hours, Sam wanted voluntary layoffs during the slow season even though he promised you 40 hours if you signed a statement that you would not join or form a union.

I went to work at McDonalds as the night manager and auditor. Made more money and received free meals.

 

[g5000]

More hardworking Americans will know the security of health care coverage in states that chose to expand Medicaid than those states that chose to recklessly and irresponsibly deny health coverage to millions of Americans.

I told you guys this issue ad would write itself!

 

[Jarhead]

Here's a blog from the White House. Are people receiving Medicaid really considered hard working Americans? It seems like they're getting a lot of free stuff to me.

Here is your problem right there. You are incapable of telling apart two distinct concepts -- working hard and being helped.

I mean seriously, what kind of thought process can lead to a conclusion that no hard working American can qualify for Medicaid?

Do you have any idea, how much Walmart sales clerks make? Or staff at your local McDonalds?

Or maybe you think that every hard working American should have got a college degree and become a CEO? Who do you think would work at Wallmart then?

they get paid lower salaries because they are not working hard!

One does not need a degree from college to work hard.

Heck, before I got my degree, I worked hard. I shoveled snow for my university in the AM....up at 5 AM every day there was snow the night before...After classes I spent 2-6 working at the local grocery store.....and from 7 to 11 I pumped gas.

During break times I worked 12 hour days....getting paid for 10 of them

Working 8 hours behind a cash register and getting paid for 7 of them is not working hard. It is simply "working".

 

[RightDown]

It wasn't necessary to make sweeping and damaging changes in our health care system to help the few without insurance, which was actually between 7 and 8 million people. They could have expanded Medicaid, which they are doing now. That would have been a quick and simple solution to the problem IF they really wanted to help people get insured. This is just more proof that health care was not the goal. Transferring power and wealth redistribution was the goal.

They had 3 years to build the website and it looks like something that was put together in one day. The hefty price tag, paid to Michelle Obama's college friend, is a huge rip off considering what we got for the money. $634 million was spent prior to the disasterous launch of the website and now well over $1 billion has been thrown at the site in attempts to repair it. The repairs were made to allow people to type in their information, but the security still poses major issues for the public. It's unfair to tell people to go to the website knowing that hackers could easily steal their identities or, at the very least, empty their bank accounts. Security when it comes to sensitive personal information of the public is NOT a concern of this administration. It also was reported today that at least 30% of the people who think they successfully signed up for insurance are actually still without insurance. Most won't know it until they seek medical care in January. The information was lost in some cases and information was somehow mixed up, so the info isn't accurate. To top it off, there is no system in place for paying insurance premiums for the subsidized. The website doesn't even have that feature built into it yet. For now, the government is just going to trust insurance companies (after years of vilifying them) to tell them an approximate amount they are owed and the government will write big checks and "true it up" later. This is truly the most disorganized roll out of any government program ever.

Even when the website is fixed, the Obamacare law itself remains a disaster for the middle class. It's those working full time and living paycheck to paycheck that will bear the brunt of costs for subsidizing people and they will pay increased taxes estimated at $6,000 annually. Those costs are in addition to having to pay up to three times more for their own insurance, which will likely have a much higher deductible than their old one. Too many can no longer afford health insurance and will face fines.

Millions who previously had insurance are now without and the number will rise significantly. The number of uninsured now will be far greater than the number who were uninsured before this unconstitutional bill was passed by the Democrats. That is even more proof that the law has nothing to do with health care.

Despite the fact that people don't like having their choices taken from them and they cannot afford the more expensive plans because of Obamacare, the administration has insisted that we keep going forward. They have all this new power and will not let go. They will destroy the middle class and bring this country to it's knees and all because they refuse to admit they were wrong to push this law through. To admit that Obamacare is a failure is to admit that liberalism is a failure.

No liberal wants to talk about the fact that people have lost their plans and their doctors. It's one thing to change to a different insurance company, but people are losing the doctors they have trusted for years. The doctor-patient relationship is sacred and the liberals just intervened in the most personal aspect of our lives. The same ones who insist that all companies provide plans that include abortions because a woman has total say about her body are now willing to say government should have control over our bodies. For them to support Obamacare, with the mandatory body fat tests, forcing us to leave our trusted doctors and allow strangers to treat us and not allowing us to have any say in our treatment is hypocritical. A woman will have control over her body until a panel decides that a cancer treatment is too expensive or she is too old to warrant spending money on a pacemaker. Then it's all government control over what happens to our bodies.

I am tired of liberals taking such a cavalier attitude towards this rude intrusion into lives and telling us to suck it up because it's the law. They tell us we'll be better off, even as millions now face going into the future with NO insurance or are paying way more than they can comfortably afford. Insurance won't even help many because the deductable are so high that 100% of their medical expenses will be out of pocket from here on, at least barring any major illness. Liberals still say we are supposed to be happier now, as if they have a fucking clue what is best for each of us. Many of us were fine and had already decided what we wanted and we were happy with our choices. It was not necessary for all of us to be forced to give up what we had just to cover a small percent of people. Again, this clearly was never about health care. It's about liberals pushing their beliefs on everyone else and claiming it's for the greater good.

Liberals love Obamacare now and they will praise their messiah for this, at least until it's them in the hospice being fed pain pills because they were denied that triple bypass or the newest cancer treatment. Will the liberals here feel different when government says their life isn't worth the money to save it?

If any of you liberals here are old or in poor health, how can you feel good about this new approach to health care?

Or do you realize that this is an extremely corrupt government and assume that you will be spared when the death panels see you are a registered Democrat?

It's not Obama that made government corrupt...llike a black man showing up at the white house and all of a sudden we have log rolling.

You do realize that the people that own you and me also own our government. No shock there. The liberals I know, including myself, do not like the ACA at all but it is better than nothing.

The ACA is a right wing republican plan born in the Heritage Foundation.

Obama is a president that legislates center-right. Hardly a liberal. He does what he's permitted to do by our owners....the same owners that control both political parties. This is not a secret.

Thanks. Saves Me the effort to determine just how unstable you really are.

Say buh-bye.

Intelligent and funny. A winner all around.

Why I haven't heard that, 'buh-bye' quip since the 1990s and SNL.

You're an innovator I says.

 

[ilia25]

They make little money because they work at wal mart. That's ok for a while, but seriously, find a different job. It can happen.

No, it cannot, not for everyone.

It's not 60s anymore. This economy simply doesn't create as many high paying jobs as it used to. Manufacturing jobs are disappearing steadily. So 10 middle class jobs are replaced with a single really good one and 9 earning a minimum wage.

 

[ShawnChris13]

They make little money because they work at wal mart. That's ok for a while, but seriously, find a different job. It can happen.

No, it cannot, not for everyone.

It's not 60s anymore. This economy simply doesn't create as many high paying jobs as it used to. Manufacturing jobs are disappearing steadily. So 10 middle class jobs are replaced with a single really good one and 9 earning a minimum wage.

I concede your point. That still doesn't mean that everyone on Medicaid can be described as hard working. The ones that are hard working didn't even know they were eligible for Medicaid.

 

[g5000]

It's not Obama that made government corrupt...llike a black man showing up at the white house and all of a sudden we have log rolling.

You do realize that the people that own you and me also own our government. No shock there. The liberals I know, including myself, do not like the ACA at all but it is better than nothing.

The ACA is a right wing republican plan born in the Heritage Foundation.

Obama is a president that legislates center-right. Hardly a liberal. He does what he's permitted to do by our owners....the same owners that control both political parties. This is not a secret.

It's true the ACA has a lot of right wing markings all over it. After all, RomneyCare is the genetic father of ObamaCare, and the GOP picked Romney as the Republican nominee for President. This pick betrayed their actual motives behind all the current bluster. The bluster is a giant smokescreen. Theater for the rubes. The GOP was pushing the individual mandate in Congress back in 1993. The GOP long ago sold us all down the river with respect to the health care problem.

But you are quite mistaken in believing Obama is not a far left liberal. His record prior to the White House shouts the truth about his character quite loudly.

You are correct, though, that he is now owned by Wall Street, as is Congress (which has metemorphed into an American Politiboro).

Obama's left hand was tightly bound by the obliterated economy he inherited from Bush. I well remember, and you should review, the campaign promises Obama was making during the 2008 campaign. He was writing liberal checks every day which the American taxpayer was never going to be able to cash.

If Obama had inherited a stable economy, he would have run it up on the rocks in his attempt to immanentize the eschaton.

Remember, he wanted single payer healthcare, not what has become known as ObamaCare.

 

[Jarhead]

They make little money because they work at wal mart. That's ok for a while, but seriously, find a different job. It can happen.

No, it cannot, not for everyone.

It's not 60s anymore. This economy simply doesn't create as many high paying jobs as it used to. Manufacturing jobs are disappearing steadily. So 10 middle class jobs are replaced with a single really good one and 9 earning a minimum wage.

I concede your point. That still doesn't mean that everyone on Medicaid can be described as hard working. The ones that are hard working didn't even know they were eligible for Medicaid.

Someone at walmart making minimum wage is not hardworking. He/she is simply working.

Work two jobs.....overtime......then you are hardworking.

Now...that doesn't mean one doesn't WANT to be hard working.

But if you are working 35 hours a week at Walmart for minimum wage and nothing else?

You are not hard working.

 

[Ame®icano]

It all depends on what "hardworking" means.
And who really determine it?