Do The People Have The Moral Authority To Outlaw Atheism?

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Do The People Have The Moral Authority To Outlaw Atheism?
~~ or Christianity?
~~ or Secular Humanism?
~~ or Chewing Gum?

JAG Writes:
On Atheism there is no God.
So God and gods have no part in this OP's question.

Questions:
Are The People the Highest and the Final ,Authority?
If The People are not The Highest and The Final Authority, then Who or What is The Highest Authority?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that is above The People and has more authority than
The People?
If you say Yes to that question, then Who knows what or where that Truth Reality is?
Who knows what it is? {if it exists}
Who knows where it is located? {if it exists}
Who has the authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says? {if it exists}
What are their names?
Are you "one of them."?
___________

Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth have outlawed Murder
and said "Thou Shall Not Murder"
Question: Do you have a moral obligation to obey The People
when they collectively issue a proclamation that murder is outlawed?

___________

Do The People have a Moral Right to outlaw chewing gum?
If you are a gum chewer, and 98% of The People of Earth voted to outlaw
chewing gum, would you be morally obligated to stop chewing gum?
___________

Let us also say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed Upon Penalty Of Death"
Would you then be morally obligated to cease teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?
__________

Here is another version of the same thing leaving off the penalty.
Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed."
Would you be morally obligated to stop teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?

___________

Do 98% of The People of the Earth have the authority to precisely define what
is, or is not, moral and immoral?
If you say No, then what Authority is there, that has the Power or the Authority
to void the will of 98% of The People of the Earth?

Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Authority and the Power to void
the will of 98% of The People of the earth?
If yes, who has the Power and the Authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says?
Where are they located?
What are their names?

_______

Some Miscellaneous Thoughts Relating To This Question:

On Atheism there is no God.
The People are the Highest Authority.
The People are The Highest Supreme Being.
The People can speak through the political vehicle of Democracy?
Suppose The People want to Democratically outlaw your beliefs?
To what Authority would you appeal that would be higher than The People?
You could not appeal to God.
On Atheism there is no God.
It would be You vs.The People --and in a Democracy The People make the laws
and are The Supreme Being.
Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw the public expression
of your beliefs?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Secularism Humanism?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Christianity?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

JAG
 
Do The People Have The Moral Authority To Outlaw Atheism?
~~ or Christianity?
~~ or Secular Humanism?
~~ or Chewing Gum?

JAG Writes:
On Atheism there is no God.
So God and gods have no part in this OP's question.

Questions:
Are The People the Highest and the Final ,Authority?
If The People are not The Highest and The Final Authority, then Who or What is The Highest Authority?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that is above The People and has more authority than
The People?
If you say Yes to that question, then Who knows what or where that Truth Reality is?
Who knows what it is? {if it exists}
Who knows where it is located? {if it exists}
Who has the authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says? {if it exists}
What are their names?
Are you "one of them."?
___________

Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth have outlawed Murder
and said "Thou Shall Not Murder"
Question: Do you have a moral obligation to obey The People
when they collectively issue a proclamation that murder is outlawed?

___________

Do The People have a Moral Right to outlaw chewing gum?
If you are a gum chewer, and 98% of The People of Earth voted to outlaw
chewing gum, would you be morally obligated to stop chewing gum?
___________

Let us also say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed Upon Penalty Of Death"
Would you then be morally obligated to cease teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?
__________

Here is another version of the same thing leaving off the penalty.
Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed."
Would you be morally obligated to stop teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?

___________

Do 98% of The People of the Earth have the authority to precisely define what
is, or is not, moral and immoral?
If you say No, then what Authority is there, that has the Power or the Authority
to void the will of 98% of The People of the Earth?

Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Authority and the Power to void
the will of 98% of The People of the earth?
If yes, who has the Power and the Authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says?
Where are they located?
What are their names?

_______

Some Miscellaneous Thoughts Relating To This Question:

On Atheism there is no God.
The People are the Highest Authority.
The People are The Highest Supreme Being.
The People can speak through the political vehicle of Democracy?
Suppose The People want to Democratically outlaw your beliefs?
To what Authority would you appeal that would be higher than The People?
You could not appeal to God.
On Atheism there is no God.
It would be You vs.The People --and in a Democracy The People make the laws
and are The Supreme Being.
Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw the public expression
of your beliefs?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Secularism Humanism?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Christianity?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

JAG
not sure how you outlaw thought,,,
 
Do The People Have The Moral Authority To Outlaw Atheism?
~~ or Christianity?
~~ or Secular Humanism?
~~ or Chewing Gum?

JAG Writes:
On Atheism there is no God.
So God and gods have no part in this OP's question.

Questions:
Are The People the Highest and the Final ,Authority?
If The People are not The Highest and The Final Authority, then Who or What is The Highest Authority?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that is above The People and has more authority than
The People?
If you say Yes to that question, then Who knows what or where that Truth Reality is?
Who knows what it is? {if it exists}
Who knows where it is located? {if it exists}
Who has the authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says? {if it exists}
What are their names?
Are you "one of them."?
___________

Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth have outlawed Murder
and said "Thou Shall Not Murder"
Question: Do you have a moral obligation to obey The People
when they collectively issue a proclamation that murder is outlawed?

___________

Do The People have a Moral Right to outlaw chewing gum?
If you are a gum chewer, and 98% of The People of Earth voted to outlaw
chewing gum, would you be morally obligated to stop chewing gum?
___________

Let us also say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed Upon Penalty Of Death"
Would you then be morally obligated to cease teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?
__________

Here is another version of the same thing leaving off the penalty.
Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed."
Would you be morally obligated to stop teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?

___________

Do 98% of The People of the Earth have the authority to precisely define what
is, or is not, moral and immoral?
If you say No, then what Authority is there, that has the Power or the Authority
to void the will of 98% of The People of the Earth?

Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Authority and the Power to void
the will of 98% of The People of the earth?
If yes, who has the Power and the Authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says?
Where are they located?
What are their names?

_______

Some Miscellaneous Thoughts Relating To This Question:

On Atheism there is no God.
The People are the Highest Authority.
The People are The Highest Supreme Being.
The People can speak through the political vehicle of Democracy?
Suppose The People want to Democratically outlaw your beliefs?
To what Authority would you appeal that would be higher than The People?
You could not appeal to God.
On Atheism there is no God.
It would be You vs.The People --and in a Democracy The People make the laws
and are The Supreme Being.
Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw the public expression
of your beliefs?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Secularism Humanism?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Christianity?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

JAG

Q. Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

A. Only in a form of governance in an anti democratic and authoritarian dystopia.

Organized religion (for the record I was raised and confirmed a Catholic, my dog tags had RCNP inscribed) has become more and more political.

Christianity is not singular, their is a vast difference between Billy Graham Jr. / Pat Robertson and the local Parish Priests and Rabbis [a shot out Pope Francis for his humanity]

Atheism has been conceived to be the foundation of Secular Humanism; in my reality pragmatists are agnostic and support the golden rule which I believe is the foundation and framework of Secular Humanism.

Thank you for the first non Idiot-gram to be posted here in a long time; being substantive, thoughtful and most of all Thought Provoking.
 
I guess it is a good thing that we are not a Democracy. The OP provides a powerful statement for why we are not.
 
Do The People Have The Moral Authority To Outlaw Atheism?
~~ or Christianity?
~~ or Secular Humanism?
~~ or Chewing Gum?

JAG Writes:
On Atheism there is no God.
So God and gods have no part in this OP's question.

Questions:
Are The People the Highest and the Final ,Authority?
If The People are not The Highest and The Final Authority, then Who or What is The Highest Authority?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that is above The People and has more authority than
The People?
If you say Yes to that question, then Who knows what or where that Truth Reality is?
Who knows what it is? {if it exists}
Who knows where it is located? {if it exists}
Who has the authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says? {if it exists}
What are their names?
Are you "one of them."?
___________

Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth have outlawed Murder
and said "Thou Shall Not Murder"
Question: Do you have a moral obligation to obey The People
when they collectively issue a proclamation that murder is outlawed?

___________

Do The People have a Moral Right to outlaw chewing gum?
If you are a gum chewer, and 98% of The People of Earth voted to outlaw
chewing gum, would you be morally obligated to stop chewing gum?
___________

Let us also say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed Upon Penalty Of Death"
Would you then be morally obligated to cease teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?
__________

Here is another version of the same thing leaving off the penalty.
Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed."
Would you be morally obligated to stop teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?

___________

Do 98% of The People of the Earth have the authority to precisely define what
is, or is not, moral and immoral?
If you say No, then what Authority is there, that has the Power or the Authority
to void the will of 98% of The People of the Earth?

Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Authority and the Power to void
the will of 98% of The People of the earth?
If yes, who has the Power and the Authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says?
Where are they located?
What are their names?

_______

Some Miscellaneous Thoughts Relating To This Question:

On Atheism there is no God.
The People are the Highest Authority.
The People are The Highest Supreme Being.
The People can speak through the political vehicle of Democracy?
Suppose The People want to Democratically outlaw your beliefs?
To what Authority would you appeal that would be higher than The People?
You could not appeal to God.
On Atheism there is no God.
It would be You vs.The People --and in a Democracy The People make the laws
and are The Supreme Being.
Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw the public expression
of your beliefs?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Secularism Humanism?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Christianity?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

JAG
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to void the will of 98% of The People of the Earth?
.
from antiquity, judgement can only be rendered through unanimity.
 
Do The People Have The Moral Authority To Outlaw Atheism?
~~ or Christianity?
~~ or Secular Humanism?
~~ or Chewing Gum?

JAG Writes:
On Atheism there is no God.
So God and gods have no part in this OP's question.

Questions:
Are The People the Highest and the Final ,Authority?
If The People are not The Highest and The Final Authority, then Who or What is The Highest Authority?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that is above The People and has more authority than
The People?
If you say Yes to that question, then Who knows what or where that Truth Reality is?
Who knows what it is? {if it exists}
Who knows where it is located? {if it exists}
Who has the authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says? {if it exists}
What are their names?
Are you "one of them."?
___________

Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth have outlawed Murder
and said "Thou Shall Not Murder"
Question: Do you have a moral obligation to obey The People
when they collectively issue a proclamation that murder is outlawed?

___________

Do The People have a Moral Right to outlaw chewing gum?
If you are a gum chewer, and 98% of The People of Earth voted to outlaw
chewing gum, would you be morally obligated to stop chewing gum?
___________

Let us also say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed Upon Penalty Of Death"
Would you then be morally obligated to cease teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?
__________

Here is another version of the same thing leaving off the penalty.
Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed."
Would you be morally obligated to stop teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?

___________

Do 98% of The People of the Earth have the authority to precisely define what
is, or is not, moral and immoral?
If you say No, then what Authority is there, that has the Power or the Authority
to void the will of 98% of The People of the Earth?

Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Authority and the Power to void
the will of 98% of The People of the earth?
If yes, who has the Power and the Authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says?
Where are they located?
What are their names?

_______

Some Miscellaneous Thoughts Relating To This Question:

On Atheism there is no God.
The People are the Highest Authority.
The People are The Highest Supreme Being.
The People can speak through the political vehicle of Democracy?
Suppose The People want to Democratically outlaw your beliefs?
To what Authority would you appeal that would be higher than The People?
You could not appeal to God.
On Atheism there is no God.
It would be You vs.The People --and in a Democracy The People make the laws
and are The Supreme Being.
Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw the public expression
of your beliefs?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Secularism Humanism?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Christianity?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

JAG
not sure how you outlaw thought,,,

not sure how you outlaw thought,,,"___PH

How much clearer could I have made it?

"Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw
the public expression of your beliefs?"___JAG



JAG


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Do The People Have The Moral Authority To Outlaw Atheism?
~~ or Christianity?
~~ or Secular Humanism?
~~ or Chewing Gum?

JAG Writes:
On Atheism there is no God.
So God and gods have no part in this OP's question.

Questions:
Are The People the Highest and the Final ,Authority?
If The People are not The Highest and The Final Authority, then Who or What is The Highest Authority?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that is above The People and has more authority than
The People?
If you say Yes to that question, then Who knows what or where that Truth Reality is?
Who knows what it is? {if it exists}
Who knows where it is located? {if it exists}
Who has the authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says? {if it exists}
What are their names?
Are you "one of them."?
___________

Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth have outlawed Murder
and said "Thou Shall Not Murder"
Question: Do you have a moral obligation to obey The People
when they collectively issue a proclamation that murder is outlawed?

___________

Do The People have a Moral Right to outlaw chewing gum?
If you are a gum chewer, and 98% of The People of Earth voted to outlaw
chewing gum, would you be morally obligated to stop chewing gum?
___________

Let us also say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed Upon Penalty Of Death"
Would you then be morally obligated to cease teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?
__________

Here is another version of the same thing leaving off the penalty.
Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed."
Would you be morally obligated to stop teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?

___________

Do 98% of The People of the Earth have the authority to precisely define what
is, or is not, moral and immoral?
If you say No, then what Authority is there, that has the Power or the Authority
to void the will of 98% of The People of the Earth?

Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Authority and the Power to void
the will of 98% of The People of the earth?
If yes, who has the Power and the Authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says?
Where are they located?
What are their names?

_______

Some Miscellaneous Thoughts Relating To This Question:

On Atheism there is no God.
The People are the Highest Authority.
The People are The Highest Supreme Being.
The People can speak through the political vehicle of Democracy?
Suppose The People want to Democratically outlaw your beliefs?
To what Authority would you appeal that would be higher than The People?
You could not appeal to God.
On Atheism there is no God.
It would be You vs.The People --and in a Democracy The People make the laws
and are The Supreme Being.
Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw the public expression
of your beliefs?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Secularism Humanism?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Christianity?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

JAG
not sure how you outlaw thought,,,


"not sure how you outlaw thought,,,"


trumpers know how to outlaw thought.......kill the thinker and burn the books
 
Do The People Have The Moral Authority To Outlaw Atheism?
~~ or Christianity?
~~ or Secular Humanism?
~~ or Chewing Gum?

JAG Writes:
On Atheism there is no God.
So God and gods have no part in this OP's question.

Questions:
Are The People the Highest and the Final ,Authority?
If The People are not The Highest and The Final Authority, then Who or What is The Highest Authority?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that is above The People and has more authority than
The People?
If you say Yes to that question, then Who knows what or where that Truth Reality is?
Who knows what it is? {if it exists}
Who knows where it is located? {if it exists}
Who has the authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says? {if it exists}
What are their names?
Are you "one of them."?
___________

Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth have outlawed Murder
and said "Thou Shall Not Murder"
Question: Do you have a moral obligation to obey The People
when they collectively issue a proclamation that murder is outlawed?

___________

Do The People have a Moral Right to outlaw chewing gum?
If you are a gum chewer, and 98% of The People of Earth voted to outlaw
chewing gum, would you be morally obligated to stop chewing gum?
___________

Let us also say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed Upon Penalty Of Death"
Would you then be morally obligated to cease teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?
__________

Here is another version of the same thing leaving off the penalty.
Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed."
Would you be morally obligated to stop teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?

___________

Do 98% of The People of the Earth have the authority to precisely define what
is, or is not, moral and immoral?
If you say No, then what Authority is there, that has the Power or the Authority
to void the will of 98% of The People of the Earth?

Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Authority and the Power to void
the will of 98% of The People of the earth?
If yes, who has the Power and the Authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says?
Where are they located?
What are their names?

_______

Some Miscellaneous Thoughts Relating To This Question:

On Atheism there is no God.
The People are the Highest Authority.
The People are The Highest Supreme Being.
The People can speak through the political vehicle of Democracy?
Suppose The People want to Democratically outlaw your beliefs?
To what Authority would you appeal that would be higher than The People?
You could not appeal to God.
On Atheism there is no God.
It would be You vs.The People --and in a Democracy The People make the laws
and are The Supreme Being.
Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw the public expression
of your beliefs?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Secularism Humanism?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Christianity?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

JAG

Q. Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

A. Only in a form of governance in an anti democratic and authoritarian dystopia.

Organized religion (for the record I was raised and confirmed a Catholic, my dog tags had RCNP inscribed) has become more and more political.

Christianity is not singular, their is a vast difference between Billy Graham Jr. / Pat Robertson and the local Parish Priests and Rabbis [a shot out Pope Francis for his humanity]

Atheism has been conceived to be the foundation of Secular Humanism; in my reality pragmatists are agnostic and support the golden rule which I believe is the foundation and framework of Secular Humanism.

Thank you for the first non Idiot-gram to be posted here in a long time; being substantive, thoughtful and most of all Thought Provoking.

"A. Only in a form of governance in an anti democratic and authoritarian dystopia.
Organized religion (for the record I was raised and confirmed a Catholic, my dog
tags had RCNP inscribed) has become more and more political.
Christianity is not singular, their is a vast difference between
Billy Graham Jr. / Pat Robertson and the local Parish Priests and
Rabbis [a shot out Pope Francis for his humanity]
Atheism has been conceived to be the foundation of Secular
Humanism; in my reality pragmatists are agnostic and support
the golden rule which I believe is the foundation and framework
of Secular Humanism.
Thank you for the first non Idiot-gram to be posted here in a long
time; being substantive, thoughtful and most of all Thought
Provoking. "___Rye Catcher


Rye Catcher,
You're welcome.
And thank you for what appears to be a careful and thoughtful
reading of my Opening Post -- which is a philosophical Thought Experiment
written to elicit intelligent discussion {which you provided} about this question:

Q. "Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?"___JAG

Best.

JAG


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Do The People Have The Moral Authority To Outlaw Atheism?
~~ or Christianity?
~~ or Secular Humanism?
~~ or Chewing Gum?

JAG Writes:
On Atheism there is no God.
So God and gods have no part in this OP's question.

Questions:
Are The People the Highest and the Final ,Authority?
If The People are not The Highest and The Final Authority, then Who or What is The Highest Authority?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that is above The People and has more authority than
The People?
If you say Yes to that question, then Who knows what or where that Truth Reality is?
Who knows what it is? {if it exists}
Who knows where it is located? {if it exists}
Who has the authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says? {if it exists}
What are their names?
Are you "one of them."?
___________

Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth have outlawed Murder
and said "Thou Shall Not Murder"
Question: Do you have a moral obligation to obey The People
when they collectively issue a proclamation that murder is outlawed?

___________

Do The People have a Moral Right to outlaw chewing gum?
If you are a gum chewer, and 98% of The People of Earth voted to outlaw
chewing gum, would you be morally obligated to stop chewing gum?
___________

Let us also say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed Upon Penalty Of Death"
Would you then be morally obligated to cease teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?
__________

Here is another version of the same thing leaving off the penalty.
Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed."
Would you be morally obligated to stop teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?

___________

Do 98% of The People of the Earth have the authority to precisely define what
is, or is not, moral and immoral?
If you say No, then what Authority is there, that has the Power or the Authority
to void the will of 98% of The People of the Earth?

Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Authority and the Power to void
the will of 98% of The People of the earth?
If yes, who has the Power and the Authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says?
Where are they located?
What are their names?

_______

Some Miscellaneous Thoughts Relating To This Question:

On Atheism there is no God.
The People are the Highest Authority.
The People are The Highest Supreme Being.
The People can speak through the political vehicle of Democracy?
Suppose The People want to Democratically outlaw your beliefs?
To what Authority would you appeal that would be higher than The People?
You could not appeal to God.
On Atheism there is no God.
It would be You vs.The People --and in a Democracy The People make the laws
and are The Supreme Being.
Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw the public expression
of your beliefs?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Secularism Humanism?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Christianity?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

JAG
not sure how you outlaw thought,,,


"not sure how you outlaw thought,,,"


trumpers know how to outlaw thought.......kill the thinker and burn the books

How much clearer could I have made it?

"Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw
the public expression of your beliefs?"___JAG
 
Do The People Have The Moral Authority To Outlaw Atheism?
~~ or Christianity?
~~ or Secular Humanism?
~~ or Chewing Gum?

JAG Writes:
On Atheism there is no God.
So God and gods have no part in this OP's question.

Questions:
Are The People the Highest and the Final ,Authority?
If The People are not The Highest and The Final Authority, then Who or What is The Highest Authority?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that is above The People and has more authority than
The People?
If you say Yes to that question, then Who knows what or where that Truth Reality is?
Who knows what it is? {if it exists}
Who knows where it is located? {if it exists}
Who has the authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says? {if it exists}
What are their names?
Are you "one of them."?
___________

Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth have outlawed Murder
and said "Thou Shall Not Murder"
Question: Do you have a moral obligation to obey The People
when they collectively issue a proclamation that murder is outlawed?

___________

Do The People have a Moral Right to outlaw chewing gum?
If you are a gum chewer, and 98% of The People of Earth voted to outlaw
chewing gum, would you be morally obligated to stop chewing gum?
___________

Let us also say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed Upon Penalty Of Death"
Would you then be morally obligated to cease teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?
__________

Here is another version of the same thing leaving off the penalty.
Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed."
Would you be morally obligated to stop teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?

___________

Do 98% of The People of the Earth have the authority to precisely define what
is, or is not, moral and immoral?
If you say No, then what Authority is there, that has the Power or the Authority
to void the will of 98% of The People of the Earth?

Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Authority and the Power to void
the will of 98% of The People of the earth?
If yes, who has the Power and the Authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says?
Where are they located?
What are their names?

_______

Some Miscellaneous Thoughts Relating To This Question:

On Atheism there is no God.
The People are the Highest Authority.
The People are The Highest Supreme Being.
The People can speak through the political vehicle of Democracy?
Suppose The People want to Democratically outlaw your beliefs?
To what Authority would you appeal that would be higher than The People?
You could not appeal to God.
On Atheism there is no God.
It would be You vs.The People --and in a Democracy The People make the laws
and are The Supreme Being.
Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw the public expression
of your beliefs?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Secularism Humanism?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Christianity?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

JAG

Q. Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

A. Only in a form of governance in an anti democratic and authoritarian dystopia.

Organized religion (for the record I was raised and confirmed a Catholic, my dog tags had RCNP inscribed) has become more and more political.

Christianity is not singular, their is a vast difference between Billy Graham Jr. / Pat Robertson and the local Parish Priests and Rabbis [a shot out Pope Francis for his humanity]

Atheism has been conceived to be the foundation of Secular Humanism; in my reality pragmatists are agnostic and support the golden rule which I believe is the foundation and framework of Secular Humanism.

Thank you for the first non Idiot-gram to be posted here in a long time; being substantive, thoughtful and most of all Thought Provoking.


98% of the people?

there exists no such block..


there is NO group of like-minded people that equals 98% of the population.....

no ideology
no religion
no race
no color
no creed

even in the USA (where deranged conservatives believe "MOST Americans are christians!") you find that, in reality, MOST Americans are NOT evangelical christians....

in fact, the people (conservative christians) who claim that America is a "christian nation" because "MOST Americans are christians" will dispute their own point by also claiming that everyone who isn't a right wing evangelical lunatic is NOT a "real christian" and is NOT "a real American"


what I would like to know is how you justify your belief in "free speech" while wanting to ban, banish and outlaw any speech that irritates you?
 
If The People are not The Highest and The Final Authority, then Who or What is The Highest Authority?
Logic.

Of course that leads us straight back to God. :lol:

"Of course that leads us straight back to God. :lol: "___DIng


Never mind that I wrote in the OP, this:
"JAG Writes:

On Atheism there is no God.
So God and gods have no part in this OP's question."

Just breeze on past that like it was never written.

JAG


``
 
Do The People Have The Moral Authority To Outlaw Atheism?
~~ or Christianity?
~~ or Secular Humanism?
~~ or Chewing Gum?

JAG Writes:
On Atheism there is no God.
So God and gods have no part in this OP's question.

Questions:
Are The People the Highest and the Final ,Authority?
If The People are not The Highest and The Final Authority, then Who or What is The Highest Authority?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that is above The People and has more authority than
The People?
If you say Yes to that question, then Who knows what or where that Truth Reality is?
Who knows what it is? {if it exists}
Who knows where it is located? {if it exists}
Who has the authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says? {if it exists}
What are their names?
Are you "one of them."?
___________

Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth have outlawed Murder
and said "Thou Shall Not Murder"
Question: Do you have a moral obligation to obey The People
when they collectively issue a proclamation that murder is outlawed?

___________

Do The People have a Moral Right to outlaw chewing gum?
If you are a gum chewer, and 98% of The People of Earth voted to outlaw
chewing gum, would you be morally obligated to stop chewing gum?
___________

Let us also say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed Upon Penalty Of Death"
Would you then be morally obligated to cease teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?
__________

Here is another version of the same thing leaving off the penalty.
Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed."
Would you be morally obligated to stop teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?

___________

Do 98% of The People of the Earth have the authority to precisely define what
is, or is not, moral and immoral?
If you say No, then what Authority is there, that has the Power or the Authority
to void the will of 98% of The People of the Earth?

Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Authority and the Power to void
the will of 98% of The People of the earth?
If yes, who has the Power and the Authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says?
Where are they located?
What are their names?

_______

Some Miscellaneous Thoughts Relating To This Question:

On Atheism there is no God.
The People are the Highest Authority.
The People are The Highest Supreme Being.
The People can speak through the political vehicle of Democracy?
Suppose The People want to Democratically outlaw your beliefs?
To what Authority would you appeal that would be higher than The People?
You could not appeal to God.
On Atheism there is no God.
It would be You vs.The People --and in a Democracy The People make the laws
and are The Supreme Being.
Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw the public expression
of your beliefs?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Secularism Humanism?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Christianity?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

JAG
not sure how you outlaw thought,,,


"not sure how you outlaw thought,,,"


trumpers know how to outlaw thought.......kill the thinker and burn the books

How much clearer could I have made it?

"Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw
the public expression of your beliefs?"___JAG
theres nothing moral about forcing the silence of others,,,thats a lack of morals,,,
 
Do The People Have The Moral Authority To Outlaw Atheism?
~~ or Christianity?
~~ or Secular Humanism?
~~ or Chewing Gum?

JAG Writes:
On Atheism there is no God.
So God and gods have no part in this OP's question.

Questions:
Are The People the Highest and the Final ,Authority?
If The People are not The Highest and The Final Authority, then Who or What is The Highest Authority?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that is above The People and has more authority than
The People?
If you say Yes to that question, then Who knows what or where that Truth Reality is?
Who knows what it is? {if it exists}
Who knows where it is located? {if it exists}
Who has the authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says? {if it exists}
What are their names?
Are you "one of them."?
___________

Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth have outlawed Murder
and said "Thou Shall Not Murder"
Question: Do you have a moral obligation to obey The People
when they collectively issue a proclamation that murder is outlawed?

___________

Do The People have a Moral Right to outlaw chewing gum?
If you are a gum chewer, and 98% of The People of Earth voted to outlaw
chewing gum, would you be morally obligated to stop chewing gum?
___________

Let us also say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed Upon Penalty Of Death"
Would you then be morally obligated to cease teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?
__________

Here is another version of the same thing leaving off the penalty.
Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed."
Would you be morally obligated to stop teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?

___________

Do 98% of The People of the Earth have the authority to precisely define what
is, or is not, moral and immoral?
If you say No, then what Authority is there, that has the Power or the Authority
to void the will of 98% of The People of the Earth?

Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Authority and the Power to void
the will of 98% of The People of the earth?
If yes, who has the Power and the Authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says?
Where are they located?
What are their names?

_______

Some Miscellaneous Thoughts Relating To This Question:

On Atheism there is no God.
The People are the Highest Authority.
The People are The Highest Supreme Being.
The People can speak through the political vehicle of Democracy?
Suppose The People want to Democratically outlaw your beliefs?
To what Authority would you appeal that would be higher than The People?
You could not appeal to God.
On Atheism there is no God.
It would be You vs.The People --and in a Democracy The People make the laws
and are The Supreme Being.
Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw the public expression
of your beliefs?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Secularism Humanism?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Christianity?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

JAG


you are being perfectly clear;

you believe in FREE SPEECH for yourself and your like minded lunatics and you want to silence everyone else....
 
Do The People Have The Moral Authority To Outlaw Atheism?
~~ or Christianity?
~~ or Secular Humanism?
~~ or Chewing Gum?

JAG Writes:
On Atheism there is no God.
So God and gods have no part in this OP's question.

Questions:
Are The People the Highest and the Final ,Authority?
If The People are not The Highest and The Final Authority, then Who or What is The Highest Authority?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that is above The People and has more authority than
The People?
If you say Yes to that question, then Who knows what or where that Truth Reality is?
Who knows what it is? {if it exists}
Who knows where it is located? {if it exists}
Who has the authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says? {if it exists}
What are their names?
Are you "one of them."?
___________

Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth have outlawed Murder
and said "Thou Shall Not Murder"
Question: Do you have a moral obligation to obey The People
when they collectively issue a proclamation that murder is outlawed?

___________

Do The People have a Moral Right to outlaw chewing gum?
If you are a gum chewer, and 98% of The People of Earth voted to outlaw
chewing gum, would you be morally obligated to stop chewing gum?
___________

Let us also say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed Upon Penalty Of Death"
Would you then be morally obligated to cease teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?
__________

Here is another version of the same thing leaving off the penalty.
Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed."
Would you be morally obligated to stop teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?

___________

Do 98% of The People of the Earth have the authority to precisely define what
is, or is not, moral and immoral?
If you say No, then what Authority is there, that has the Power or the Authority
to void the will of 98% of The People of the Earth?

Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Authority and the Power to void
the will of 98% of The People of the earth?
If yes, who has the Power and the Authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says?
Where are they located?
What are their names?

_______

Some Miscellaneous Thoughts Relating To This Question:

On Atheism there is no God.
The People are the Highest Authority.
The People are The Highest Supreme Being.
The People can speak through the political vehicle of Democracy?
Suppose The People want to Democratically outlaw your beliefs?
To what Authority would you appeal that would be higher than The People?
You could not appeal to God.
On Atheism there is no God.
It would be You vs.The People --and in a Democracy The People make the laws
and are The Supreme Being.
Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw the public expression
of your beliefs?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Secularism Humanism?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Christianity?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

JAG

Q. Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

A. Only in a form of governance in an anti democratic and authoritarian dystopia.

Organized religion (for the record I was raised and confirmed a Catholic, my dog tags had RCNP inscribed) has become more and more political.

Christianity is not singular, their is a vast difference between Billy Graham Jr. / Pat Robertson and the local Parish Priests and Rabbis [a shot out Pope Francis for his humanity]

Atheism has been conceived to be the foundation of Secular Humanism; in my reality pragmatists are agnostic and support the golden rule which I believe is the foundation and framework of Secular Humanism.

Thank you for the first non Idiot-gram to be posted here in a long time; being substantive, thoughtful and most of all Thought Provoking.


98% of the people?

there exists no such block..


there is NO group of like-minded people that equals 98% of the population.....

no ideology
no religion
no race
no color
no creed

even in the USA (where deranged conservatives believe "MOST Americans are christians!") you find that, in reality, MOST Americans are NOT evangelical christians....

in fact, the people (conservative christians) who claim that America is a "christian nation" because "MOST Americans are christians" will dispute their own point by also claiming that everyone who isn't a right wing evangelical lunatic is NOT a "real christian" and is NOT "a real American"


what I would like to know is how you justify your belief in "free speech" while wanting to ban, banish and outlaw any speech that irritates you?
"98% of the people?
there exists no such block..
there is NO group of like-minded people that equals 98% of the population....."ANYW

No kidding?
Really?
No 98% block of people?
Amazing.
__________

The OP is a philosophical Thought Experiment that seeks to
have an intelligent discussion about the many questions it raided.
Thank you for telling me that there is on such thing as a 98% block
of humans anywhere on the planet , , ,lol , , ,

Party on.


JAG


``
 
Do The People Have The Moral Authority To Outlaw Atheism?
~~ or Christianity?
~~ or Secular Humanism?
~~ or Chewing Gum?

JAG Writes:
On Atheism there is no God.
So God and gods have no part in this OP's question.

Questions:
Are The People the Highest and the Final ,Authority?
If The People are not The Highest and The Final Authority, then Who or What is The Highest Authority?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that is above The People and has more authority than
The People?
If you say Yes to that question, then Who knows what or where that Truth Reality is?
Who knows what it is? {if it exists}
Who knows where it is located? {if it exists}
Who has the authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says? {if it exists}
What are their names?
Are you "one of them."?
___________

Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth have outlawed Murder
and said "Thou Shall Not Murder"
Question: Do you have a moral obligation to obey The People
when they collectively issue a proclamation that murder is outlawed?

___________

Do The People have a Moral Right to outlaw chewing gum?
If you are a gum chewer, and 98% of The People of Earth voted to outlaw
chewing gum, would you be morally obligated to stop chewing gum?
___________

Let us also say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed Upon Penalty Of Death"
Would you then be morally obligated to cease teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?
__________

Here is another version of the same thing leaving off the penalty.
Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed."
Would you be morally obligated to stop teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?

___________

Do 98% of The People of the Earth have the authority to precisely define what
is, or is not, moral and immoral?
If you say No, then what Authority is there, that has the Power or the Authority
to void the will of 98% of The People of the Earth?

Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Authority and the Power to void
the will of 98% of The People of the earth?
If yes, who has the Power and the Authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says?
Where are they located?
What are their names?

_______

Some Miscellaneous Thoughts Relating To This Question:

On Atheism there is no God.
The People are the Highest Authority.
The People are The Highest Supreme Being.
The People can speak through the political vehicle of Democracy?
Suppose The People want to Democratically outlaw your beliefs?
To what Authority would you appeal that would be higher than The People?
You could not appeal to God.
On Atheism there is no God.
It would be You vs.The People --and in a Democracy The People make the laws
and are The Supreme Being.
Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw the public expression
of your beliefs?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Secularism Humanism?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Christianity?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

JAG


you are being perfectly clear;

you believe in FREE SPEECH for yourself and your like minded lunatics and you want to silence everyone else....

you are being perfectly clear;
you believe in FREE SPEECH for yourself and your like
minded lunatics and you want to silence everyone else....


__________

100% False nonsense.
You do not know what you are talking about.
You do not know what the OP is about.
You are 100% in the dark.
You did not read the OP carefully.
The OP does not want to silence anyone.
The OP does not want to pass any laws.
The OP is a Philosophical Thought Experiment that
raises the questions that were raised in the OP.
But don't trouble yourself with ACTUALLY reading
carefully ALL , , , the Opening Post -- instead just
"pop into the thread" and start making nonsensical
absurd statements about what you do not know, and
do not understand.

Best.

JAG
 
Do The People Have The Moral Authority To Outlaw Atheism?
~~ or Christianity?
~~ or Secular Humanism?
~~ or Chewing Gum?

JAG Writes:
On Atheism there is no God.
So God and gods have no part in this OP's question.

Questions:
Are The People the Highest and the Final ,Authority?
If The People are not The Highest and The Final Authority, then Who or What is The Highest Authority?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that is above The People and has more authority than
The People?
If you say Yes to that question, then Who knows what or where that Truth Reality is?
Who knows what it is? {if it exists}
Who knows where it is located? {if it exists}
Who has the authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says? {if it exists}
What are their names?
Are you "one of them."?
___________

Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth have outlawed Murder
and said "Thou Shall Not Murder"
Question: Do you have a moral obligation to obey The People
when they collectively issue a proclamation that murder is outlawed?

___________

Do The People have a Moral Right to outlaw chewing gum?
If you are a gum chewer, and 98% of The People of Earth voted to outlaw
chewing gum, would you be morally obligated to stop chewing gum?
___________

Let us also say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed Upon Penalty Of Death"
Would you then be morally obligated to cease teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?
__________

Here is another version of the same thing leaving off the penalty.
Let us say that 98% of The People Of Earth issued a Moral Proclamation
that said:
"Henceforth The Teaching Of Secular Humanism Is Outlawed."
Would you be morally obligated to stop teaching the principles of Secular Humanism?

___________

Do 98% of The People of the Earth have the authority to precisely define what
is, or is not, moral and immoral?
If you say No, then what Authority is there, that has the Power or the Authority
to void the will of 98% of The People of the Earth?

Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Authority and the Power to void
the will of 98% of The People of the earth?
If yes, who has the Power and the Authority to interpret what that Truth Reality says?
Where are they located?
What are their names?

_______

Some Miscellaneous Thoughts Relating To This Question:

On Atheism there is no God.
The People are the Highest Authority.
The People are The Highest Supreme Being.
The People can speak through the political vehicle of Democracy?
Suppose The People want to Democratically outlaw your beliefs?
To what Authority would you appeal that would be higher than The People?
You could not appeal to God.
On Atheism there is no God.
It would be You vs.The People --and in a Democracy The People make the laws
and are The Supreme Being.
Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw the public expression
of your beliefs?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Secularism Humanism?
Do 98% of The People of the Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw Christianity?
Is there a Truth Reality out there that has the Moral Authority to prevent
98% of The People collectively outlawing the public expression of
Atheism, or Secular Humanism or Christianity?

JAG
not sure how you outlaw thought,,,


"not sure how you outlaw thought,,,"


trumpers know how to outlaw thought.......kill the thinker and burn the books

How much clearer could I have made it?

"Do 98% The People of Earth have a Moral Right to outlaw
the public expression of your beliefs?"___JAG
theres nothing moral about forcing the silence of others,,,thats a lack of morals,,,
"theres nothing moral about forcing the silence of others,,,thats a lack of morals,,,"


You do not understand the Opening Post.
You do not know what the OP is about.
You are 100% in the dark.
You did not read the OP carefully.
The OP does not want to silence anyone.
The OP does not want to pass any laws.
The OP is a Philosophical Thought Experiment that
raises the questions that were raised in the OP.
Which you will have to spend some time reading
and reflecting upon --- in order to understand the
purpose of the OP's Thought Experiment.

Best

JAG
 
I guess it is a good thing that we are not a Democracy. The OP provides a powerful statement for why we are not.

I guess it is a good thing that we are not a Democracy.
The OP provides a powerful statement for why we are not.


The OP has nothing to say about the difference between a Democracy and
a Democratic Republic.

The OP does not want to silence anyone.
The OP does not want to pass any laws.
The OP is a Philosophical Thought Experiment that
raises the questions that were raised in the OP.
Which you will have to spend some time reading
and reflecting upon --- in order to understand the
purpose of the OP's Thought Experiment.

JAG

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