Dennis Hastert Is Indicted!

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The Libertarian party is more libertarian than other parties, but it is more party than libertarian. They like attention and have gone off the deep end to get it. They just want to affect elections. And the party does not own the ideology. I've voted more Libertarian than for any other party since I left the Republican party. But unlike you, my vote isn't a given for anyone

The LIbertarian party is great for people who don't want to really have to make a decision.

But the reality is, the Next President is going ot either be a Democrat or a Republican. And the next one. And the next one after that.
 
Correction: The Clinton Foundation which spends less that 10% of tax exempt donations on charity, whilst spending the rest on subsidizing a billionaire level lifestyle for the Clintons and providing stipends for their permanent campaign staff.

I'm sure that's what they've told you on Hate Radio...

Rush Limbaugh says Clinton Foundation spends just 15 percent on charity 85 percent on overhead PunditFact

As we noted earlier, many foundations carry out charitable works by giving money to other organizations that, in turn, do the ground-level charity work, whereas the Clinton foundation’s charitable works are mostly done by people on the foundation’s payroll. "We are an implementing organization rather than a grantmaking organization," said the foundation’s Minassian. That’s why the Clinton Foundation’s 990s show a relatively small amount of money categorized as "grants" -- only about 10 percent of all expenses in 2013.

The foundation says its own employees are doing its charitable work. The annual report -- which, remember, includes both the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Health Access Initiative -- says that 7 percent of expenditures were spent on "management and expenses" and 4.5 percent for "fundraising." (The numbers on the 990s for the two entities are in the same ballpark.)
 
The Libertarian party is more libertarian than other parties, but it is more party than libertarian. They like attention and have gone off the deep end to get it. They just want to affect elections. And the party does not own the ideology. I've voted more Libertarian than for any other party since I left the Republican party. But unlike you, my vote isn't a given for anyone

The LIbertarian party is great for people who don't want to really have to make a decision.

But the reality is, the Next President is going ot either be a Democrat or a Republican. And the next one. And the next one after that.

Libertarianism is Fantasy Politics. It's like Fantasy Football.
 
I'm not a member of the party. How many times did you post in this thread? LOL. Dumb ass

What is a small government libertarian US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

I have voted for it for President three times. Browne, Browne and Badarnak. But they were actually libertarians

Well, it's kind of sad when you can't even control your own useless party that doesn't even get 1% of the vote.


thats our :up: kaz :laugh: He's a libertarian but doesn't vote that way doncha' know.


The Libertarian party is more libertarian than other parties, but it is more party than libertarian. They like attention and have gone off the deep end to get it. They just want to affect elections. And the party does not own the ideology. I've voted more Libertarian than for any other party since I left the Republican party. But unlike you, my vote isn't a given for anyone


My vote is a given for the most libertarian/conservative Republican, especially in the primaries. Hard core libertarians would be smarter to work among the Republicans.


I used to think that. HW and W showed what a waste of time that is
 
The Libertarian party is more libertarian than other parties, but it is more party than libertarian. They like attention and have gone off the deep end to get it. They just want to affect elections. And the party does not own the ideology. I've voted more Libertarian than for any other party since I left the Republican party. But unlike you, my vote isn't a given for anyone

The LIbertarian party is great for people who don't want to really have to make a decision.

But the reality is, the Next President is going ot either be a Democrat or a Republican. And the next one. And the next one after that.

Wasting a vote is voting for Tweedledum or Tweedledee. What difference does it make? I tend to vote for the biggest third party candidate. Until people stop voting for the liar with the red or blue tie like you do, what you say will be a self fulfilling prophecy. That's why I voted for Perot, Browne, Browne, Badarnak and Nader consecutively. People have to believe we have an actual choice
 
The Libertarian party is more libertarian than other parties, but it is more party than libertarian. They like attention and have gone off the deep end to get it. They just want to affect elections. And the party does not own the ideology. I've voted more Libertarian than for any other party since I left the Republican party. But unlike you, my vote isn't a given for anyone

The LIbertarian party is great for people who don't want to really have to make a decision.

But the reality is, the Next President is going ot either be a Democrat or a Republican. And the next one. And the next one after that.

Libertarianism is Fantasy Politics. It's like Fantasy Football.

Yes, running our own lives is "fantasy." Got it. People who deal with reality vote for which warden they prefer
 
Here's the germain question: Why are the Feds sanctioning the Blackmail of Hastert?

Actually, the Feds aren't sanctioning the blackmail of Hastert. Hastert is being indicted for structured payments and lying to the FBI.

And, because Hastert has never said that blackmail had occurred, there is no crime to pursue on the person being paid off. As a matter of fact, there is evidence that they both agreed on this payment of hush money.

If Hastert were to say he was being blackmailed, then maybe charges would be brought to the person, but in doing so, Hastert would be admitting in a round about way that a sex scandal DID exist, because innocent people don't pay hush money.


Scuze moi, but unless there is evidence that someone's source or use of money is criminal, "structured payments" are just a way for the government to abuse power and void due process.

Why you support such is quite telling.
 
Just heard on TV that it involves a relationship with a man. There will be no prosecution for that because of the statute of limitations. Hastert still faces lying to the FBI.

He allegedly molested a boy he coached on the wrestling team. I know you're happier than a pig in shit, but lets remember he's innocent until otherwise proven not so.
His innocence claim went the way of his briefcases full of cash.
corruption? By a republican? Say it aint so lol

Lol....

Don't forget Buggery!
Buggery by a Republican? Say it ain't so.

The Republican Party...

...where they separate the Men from the Boys...

...with a crowbar.

1) in the last 50 years more Democrats have gone to jail than Republicans

2) as if Hasterts crime is serious compared to treasonous liberals naturally lying to get into office!!!!

Do you pledge to preserve and protect the Constitution?
No, of course not I'm liberal and so opposed to the basic concept of the Constitution and America!!

Ah simple pleasures of life,

like getting conservatives to defend boy fuckers.

As posted in another thread:

The real difference between the Dems and the GOP is that the Dems protect and reelect their rapists and child molesters. A few examples:

REP. JOHN YOUNG (D-Tex.):
Colleen Gardner, a former staff secretary to Young, told the New York Times that Young increased her salary after she gave in to his sexual advances. In November, Young, who had run unopposed in the safe Democratic district five consecutive times, w More..as reelected with just 61 percent of the vote. The scandal wouldn't go away, and in 1978 Young was defeated in a Democratic primary runoff.

REP. ALLAN HOWE (D-Utah):
Howe was arrested in Salt Lake City on charges of soliciting two policewomen posing as prostitutes. Howe insisted he was set up and refused to resign. But the Democratic Party distanced itself from his candidacy and he was trounced by his Republican opponent in the November election.

REP. FRED RICHMOND (D-N.Y.):
Richmond was arrested in Washington for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy. Richmond apologized for his actions, conceding he "made bad judgments involving my private life." In spite of a Democratic primary opponent's attempts to cash in on the headlines, Richmond easily won renomination and reelection. But his career came to an end four years later when, after pleading guilty to possession of marijuana and tax evasion - and amid allegations that he had his staff procure cocaine for him -- he resigned his seat.

REP. JOHN HINSON (D-Miss.):
During his first reelection bid, Hinson stunned everyone by announcing that in 1976 he had been accused of committing an obscene act at a gay haunt in Virginia. Hinson, married and a strong conservative, added that in 1977 he had survived a fire in a gay D.C. movie theater. He was making the disclosure, he said, because he needed to clear his conscience. But he denied he was a homosexual and refused GOP demands that he resign. Hinson won reelection in a three-way race, with 39 percent of the vote. But three months later, he was arrested on charges of attempted oral sodomy in the restroom of a House office building. He resigned his seat on April 13, 1981.

REP. ROBERT BAUMAN (D-Md.):
Bauman, a leading "pro-family" conservative, pleaded innocent to a charge that he committed oral sodomy on a teenage boy in Washington. Married and the father of four, Bauman conceded that he had been an alcoholic but had been seeking treatment. The news came as a shock to voters of the rural, conservative district, and he lost to a Democrat in November.

REP. DAN CRANE (R-Ill.) and REP. GERRY STUDDS (D-Mass.):
The House ethics committee on July 14, 1983, announced that Crane and Studds had sexual relationships with teenage congressional pages -- Crane with a 17-year-old female in 1980, Studds with a 17-year-old male in 1973. Both admitted the charges that same day, and Studds acknowledged he was gay. The committee voted to reprimand the two, but a back-bench Georgia Republican named Newt Gingrich argued that they should be expelled. The full House voted on July 20 instead to censure the two, the first time that ever happened for sexual misconduct. Crane, married and the father of six, was tearful in his apology to the House, while Studds refused to apologize. Crane's conservative district voted him out in 1984, while the voters in Studds's more liberal district were more forgiving. Studds won reelection in 1984 with 56 percent of the vote, and continued to win until he retired in 1996.


SEN. BROCK ADAMS (D-Wash.):
Seattle newspapers reported that Kari Tupper, the daughter of Adams's longtime friends, filed a complaint against the Washington Democrat in July of 1987, charging sexual assault. She claimed she went to Adams's house in March 1987 to get him to end a pattern of harassment, but that he drugged her and assaulted her. Adams denied any sexual assault, saying they only talked about her employment opportunities. Adams continued raising campaign funds and declared for a second term in February of 1992. But two weeks later the Seattle Times reported that eight other women were accusing Adams of sexual molestation over the past 20 years, describing a history of drugging and subsequent rape. Later that day, while still proclaiming his innocence, Adams ended his campaign.

REP. JIM BATES (D-Calif.):
Roll Call quoted former Bates aides in October 1988 saying that the San Diego Democrat made sexual advances toward female staffers. Bates called it a GOP-inspired smear campaign, but also apologized for anything he did that might have seemed inappropriate. The story came too close to Election Day to damage Bates, who won easily. However, the following October the ethics committee sent Bates a "letter of reproval" directing him to make a formal apology to the women who filed the complaint. Although the district was not thought to be hospitable to the GOP, Randy "Duke" Cunningham, a former Navy pilot who was once shot down over North Vietnam, ousted Bates in 1990 by fewer than 2,000 votes.

REP. GUS SAVAGE (D-Ill.):
Savage had fondled a Peace Corps volunteer while on an official visit to Zaire. Savage called the story a lie and blamed it on his political enemies and a racist media. (Savage is black.) In January 1990, the House ethics committee decided that the events did occur, but decided against any disciplinary action because Savage wrote a letter to the woman saying he "never intended to offend" her. Savage was reelected in 1990, but finally ousted in the 1992 primary by Mel Reynolds.

REP. BARNEY FRANK (D-Mass.):
In response to a story in the Washington Times, Frank confirmed that he hired Steve Gobie, a male prostitute, in 1985 to live with and work for him in his D.C. apartment. But Frank, who is gay, said he fired Gobie in 1987 when he learned he was using the apartment to run a prostitution service. The Boston Globe, among others, called on Frank to resign, but he refused. On July 19, 1990, the ethics committee recommended Frank be reprimanded because he "reflected discredit upon the House" by using his congressional office to fix 33 of Gobie's parking tickets. Attempts to expel or censure Frank failed; instead the House voted 408-18 to reprimand him. The fury in Washington was not shared in Frank's district, where he won reelection in 1990 with 66 percent of the vote, and has won by larger margins ever since.

SEN. DANIEL INOUYE (D-Hawaii):
In October 1992, Republican Senate nominee Rick Reed began running a campaign commercial that included a surreptitiously taped interview with Lenore Kwock, Inouye's hairdresser. Kwock said Inouye had sexually forced himself on her in 1975 and continued a pattern of sexual harassment, even as Kwock continued to cut his hair over the years. Inouye, seeking a sixth term, denied the charges. And Kwock said that by running the commercial, Reed had caused her more pain than Inouye had. Reed was forced to pull the ad, and while many voters took out their anger on the Republican, Inouye was held to 57 percent of the vote - the lowest total of his career. A week later, a female Democratic state legislator announced that she had heard from nine other women who claimed Inouye had sexually harassed them over the past decade. But the women didn't go public with their claims, the local press didn't pursue the story, and the Senate Ethics Committee decided to drop the investigation because the accusers wouldn't participate in an inquiry.


REP MEL REYNOLDS (D-Ill.):
Freshman Reynolds was indicted on Aug. 19, 1994, on charges of having sex with a 16-year-old campaign worker and then pressuring her to lie about it. Reynolds, who is black, denied the charges and said the investigation was racially motivated. The GOP belatedly put up a write-in candidate for November, but Reynolds dispatched him in the overwhelmingly Democratic district with little effort. Reynolds was convicted on Aug. 22, 1995 of 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography, was sentenced to five years in prison, and resigned his seat on October 1....
 
Correction: The Clinton Foundation which spends less that 10% of tax exempt donations on charity, whilst spending the rest on subsidizing a billionaire level lifestyle for the Clintons and providing stipends for their permanent campaign staff.

I'm sure that's what they've told you on Hate Radio...

Rush Limbaugh says Clinton Foundation spends just 15 percent on charity 85 percent on overhead PunditFact

As we noted earlier, many foundations carry out charitable works by giving money to other organizations that, in turn, do the ground-level charity work, whereas the Clinton foundation’s charitable works are mostly done by people on the foundation’s payroll. "We are an implementing organization rather than a grantmaking organization," said the foundation’s Minassian. That’s why the Clinton Foundation’s 990s show a relatively small amount of money categorized as "grants" -- only about 10 percent of all expenses in 2013.

The foundation says its own employees are doing its charitable work. The annual report -- which, remember, includes both the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Health Access Initiative -- says that 7 percent of expenditures were spent on "management and expenses" and 4.5 percent for "fundraising." (The numbers on the 990s for the two entities are in the same ballpark.)



Flying around on private jets and going to seminars is not donating to charity.

BZZZZZT you lose.
 
The Libertarian party is more libertarian than other parties, but it is more party than libertarian. They like attention and have gone off the deep end to get it. They just want to affect elections. And the party does not own the ideology. I've voted more Libertarian than for any other party since I left the Republican party. But unlike you, my vote isn't a given for anyone

The LIbertarian party is great for people who don't want to really have to make a decision.

But the reality is, the Next President is going ot either be a Democrat or a Republican. And the next one. And the next one after that.

Libertarianism is Fantasy Politics. It's like Fantasy Football.

Yes, running our own lives is "fantasy." Got it. People who deal with reality vote for which warden they prefer

Your desire to persecute gays makes any claim of yours to be libertarian a sad comedy.
 
Wasting a vote is voting for Tweedledum or Tweedledee. What difference does it make? I tend to vote for the biggest third party candidate. Until people stop voting for the liar with the red or blue tie like you do, what you say will be a self fulfilling prophecy. That's why I voted for Perot, Browne, Browne, Badarnak and Nader consecutively. People have to believe we have an actual choice

So you waste your vote on someone who has no chance of taking office? That's dumb.

A lot of liberals voted for Ralph Nader on that theory. They got W, who proceeded to get us into a war based on lies, wreck the economy, and fill government positions with in competent cronies.
 
The Libertarian party is more libertarian than other parties, but it is more party than libertarian. They like attention and have gone off the deep end to get it. They just want to affect elections. And the party does not own the ideology. I've voted more Libertarian than for any other party since I left the Republican party. But unlike you, my vote isn't a given for anyone

The LIbertarian party is great for people who don't want to really have to make a decision.

But the reality is, the Next President is going ot either be a Democrat or a Republican. And the next one. And the next one after that.

Libertarianism is Fantasy Politics. It's like Fantasy Football.

Yes, running our own lives is "fantasy." Got it. People who deal with reality vote for which warden they prefer
Hyperbolic nonsense.

You currently run your own life.

If you don't believe this is true then that's your fault, not 'the government's.'
 
Wasting a vote is voting for Tweedledum or Tweedledee. What difference does it make? I tend to vote for the biggest third party candidate. Until people stop voting for the liar with the red or blue tie like you do, what you say will be a self fulfilling prophecy. That's why I voted for Perot, Browne, Browne, Badarnak and Nader consecutively. People have to believe we have an actual choice

So you waste your vote on someone who has no chance of taking office? That's dumb.

A lot of liberals voted for Ralph Nader on that theory. They got W, who proceeded to get us into a war based on lies, wreck the economy, and fill government positions with in competent cronies.
I'm not a member of the party. How many times did you post in this thread? LOL. Dumb ass

What is a small government libertarian US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

I have voted for it for President three times. Browne, Browne and Badarnak. But they were actually libertarians

Well, it's kind of sad when you can't even control your own useless party that doesn't even get 1% of the vote.



I don't belong to the party, moron


There's a Moron Party? Why aren't you in it? Did you flunk the entrance exam?
 
He allegedly molested a boy he coached on the wrestling team. I know you're happier than a pig in shit, but lets remember he's innocent until otherwise proven not so.
His innocence claim went the way of his briefcases full of cash.
corruption? By a republican? Say it aint so lol

Lol....

Don't forget Buggery!
Buggery by a Republican? Say it ain't so.

The Republican Party...

...where they separate the Men from the Boys...

...with a crowbar.

1) in the last 50 years more Democrats have gone to jail than Republicans

2) as if Hasterts crime is serious compared to treasonous liberals naturally lying to get into office!!!!

Do you pledge to preserve and protect the Constitution?
No, of course not I'm liberal and so opposed to the basic concept of the Constitution and America!!

Ah simple pleasures of life,

like getting conservatives to defend boy fuckers.

As posted in another thread:

The real difference between the Dems and the GOP is that the Dems protect and reelect their rapists and child molesters. A few examples:

REP. JOHN YOUNG (D-Tex.):
Colleen Gardner, a former staff secretary to Young, told the New York Times that Young increased her salary after she gave in to his sexual advances. In November, Young, who had run unopposed in the safe Democratic district five consecutive times, w More..as reelected with just 61 percent of the vote. The scandal wouldn't go away, and in 1978 Young was defeated in a Democratic primary runoff.

REP. ALLAN HOWE (D-Utah):
Howe was arrested in Salt Lake City on charges of soliciting two policewomen posing as prostitutes. Howe insisted he was set up and refused to resign. But the Democratic Party distanced itself from his candidacy and he was trounced by his Republican opponent in the November election.

REP. FRED RICHMOND (D-N.Y.):
Richmond was arrested in Washington for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy. Richmond apologized for his actions, conceding he "made bad judgments involving my private life." In spite of a Democratic primary opponent's attempts to cash in on the headlines, Richmond easily won renomination and reelection. But his career came to an end four years later when, after pleading guilty to possession of marijuana and tax evasion - and amid allegations that he had his staff procure cocaine for him -- he resigned his seat.

REP. JOHN HINSON (D-Miss.):
During his first reelection bid, Hinson stunned everyone by announcing that in 1976 he had been accused of committing an obscene act at a gay haunt in Virginia. Hinson, married and a strong conservative, added that in 1977 he had survived a fire in a gay D.C. movie theater. He was making the disclosure, he said, because he needed to clear his conscience. But he denied he was a homosexual and refused GOP demands that he resign. Hinson won reelection in a three-way race, with 39 percent of the vote. But three months later, he was arrested on charges of attempted oral sodomy in the restroom of a House office building. He resigned his seat on April 13, 1981.

REP. ROBERT BAUMAN (D-Md.):
Bauman, a leading "pro-family" conservative, pleaded innocent to a charge that he committed oral sodomy on a teenage boy in Washington. Married and the father of four, Bauman conceded that he had been an alcoholic but had been seeking treatment. The news came as a shock to voters of the rural, conservative district, and he lost to a Democrat in November.

REP. DAN CRANE (R-Ill.) and REP. GERRY STUDDS (D-Mass.):
The House ethics committee on July 14, 1983, announced that Crane and Studds had sexual relationships with teenage congressional pages -- Crane with a 17-year-old female in 1980, Studds with a 17-year-old male in 1973. Both admitted the charges that same day, and Studds acknowledged he was gay. The committee voted to reprimand the two, but a back-bench Georgia Republican named Newt Gingrich argued that they should be expelled. The full House voted on July 20 instead to censure the two, the first time that ever happened for sexual misconduct. Crane, married and the father of six, was tearful in his apology to the House, while Studds refused to apologize. Crane's conservative district voted him out in 1984, while the voters in Studds's more liberal district were more forgiving. Studds won reelection in 1984 with 56 percent of the vote, and continued to win until he retired in 1996.


SEN. BROCK ADAMS (D-Wash.):
Seattle newspapers reported that Kari Tupper, the daughter of Adams's longtime friends, filed a complaint against the Washington Democrat in July of 1987, charging sexual assault. She claimed she went to Adams's house in March 1987 to get him to end a pattern of harassment, but that he drugged her and assaulted her. Adams denied any sexual assault, saying they only talked about her employment opportunities. Adams continued raising campaign funds and declared for a second term in February of 1992. But two weeks later the Seattle Times reported that eight other women were accusing Adams of sexual molestation over the past 20 years, describing a history of drugging and subsequent rape. Later that day, while still proclaiming his innocence, Adams ended his campaign.

REP. JIM BATES (D-Calif.):
Roll Call quoted former Bates aides in October 1988 saying that the San Diego Democrat made sexual advances toward female staffers. Bates called it a GOP-inspired smear campaign, but also apologized for anything he did that might have seemed inappropriate. The story came too close to Election Day to damage Bates, who won easily. However, the following October the ethics committee sent Bates a "letter of reproval" directing him to make a formal apology to the women who filed the complaint. Although the district was not thought to be hospitable to the GOP, Randy "Duke" Cunningham, a former Navy pilot who was once shot down over North Vietnam, ousted Bates in 1990 by fewer than 2,000 votes.

REP. GUS SAVAGE (D-Ill.):
Savage had fondled a Peace Corps volunteer while on an official visit to Zaire. Savage called the story a lie and blamed it on his political enemies and a racist media. (Savage is black.) In January 1990, the House ethics committee decided that the events did occur, but decided against any disciplinary action because Savage wrote a letter to the woman saying he "never intended to offend" her. Savage was reelected in 1990, but finally ousted in the 1992 primary by Mel Reynolds.

REP. BARNEY FRANK (D-Mass.):
In response to a story in the Washington Times, Frank confirmed that he hired Steve Gobie, a male prostitute, in 1985 to live with and work for him in his D.C. apartment. But Frank, who is gay, said he fired Gobie in 1987 when he learned he was using the apartment to run a prostitution service. The Boston Globe, among others, called on Frank to resign, but he refused. On July 19, 1990, the ethics committee recommended Frank be reprimanded because he "reflected discredit upon the House" by using his congressional office to fix 33 of Gobie's parking tickets. Attempts to expel or censure Frank failed; instead the House voted 408-18 to reprimand him. The fury in Washington was not shared in Frank's district, where he won reelection in 1990 with 66 percent of the vote, and has won by larger margins ever since.

SEN. DANIEL INOUYE (D-Hawaii):
In October 1992, Republican Senate nominee Rick Reed began running a campaign commercial that included a surreptitiously taped interview with Lenore Kwock, Inouye's hairdresser. Kwock said Inouye had sexually forced himself on her in 1975 and continued a pattern of sexual harassment, even as Kwock continued to cut his hair over the years. Inouye, seeking a sixth term, denied the charges. And Kwock said that by running the commercial, Reed had caused her more pain than Inouye had. Reed was forced to pull the ad, and while many voters took out their anger on the Republican, Inouye was held to 57 percent of the vote - the lowest total of his career. A week later, a female Democratic state legislator announced that she had heard from nine other women who claimed Inouye had sexually harassed them over the past decade. But the women didn't go public with their claims, the local press didn't pursue the story, and the Senate Ethics Committee decided to drop the investigation because the accusers wouldn't participate in an inquiry.


REP MEL REYNOLDS (D-Ill.):
Freshman Reynolds was indicted on Aug. 19, 1994, on charges of having sex with a 16-year-old campaign worker and then pressuring her to lie about it. Reynolds, who is black, denied the charges and said the investigation was racially motivated. The GOP belatedly put up a write-in candidate for November, but Reynolds dispatched him in the overwhelmingly Democratic district with little effort. Reynolds was convicted on Aug. 22, 1995 of 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography, was sentenced to five years in prison, and resigned his seat on October 1....
Let's not forget Barney Frank.
 
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