Democrats can’t win the gerrymander war

[Frankeneinstein]

Yes. The childish "it's our turn" argument.

I trust then you are willing to allow your political opponents [or whatever term you prefer] the advantage of last gerrymander going forward.

 

[dblack]

I trust then you are willing to allow your political opponents [or whatever term you prefer] the advantage of last gerrymander going forward.

Well, my political opponents are Democrats and Republicans. I can't really care which one goes last. But gerrymandering is obviously corrupt and needs to go.

 

[LeftofLeft]

How? Who's going to stop Abbott from stealing every House seat in Texas? ******* no one.

Because you all are Nazis.

You are so blind to see that Abbott and the Republicans are doing what Democrats have done in California, Massachusetts, New York, Illinois. Can you articulate a difference ??

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

LeftofLeft, shut up until you know better.

Tom DeLay, then the House Majority Leader, orchestrated a controversial mid-decade redistricting effort in Texas in 2003, breaking with the tradition of redrawing congressional maps only once per decade following the U.S. Census.

What Happened​

• After the 2000 Census, Texas redistricted as expected in 2001.
• But in 2003, DeLay pushed for a second round of redistricting, aiming to flip Democratic-held seats to Republican control.
• He targeted key races in the 2002 state elections to help the GOP gain control of the Texas House, which had previously blocked redistricting efforts.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Of course. And Democrats are evil.

Democrats are evil.

They support sex changes for kids. What babies they can't abort, they mutilate.

Pure evil

 

[TheGreatSatan]

LeftofLeft, shut up until you know better.

Tom DeLay, then the House Majority Leader, orchestrated a controversial mid-decade redistricting effort in Texas in 2003, breaking with the tradition of redrawing congressional maps only once per decade following the U.S. Census.

What Happened​

• After the 2000 Census, Texas redistricted as expected in 2001.
• But in 2003, DeLay pushed for a second round of redistricting, aiming to flip Democratic-held seats to Republican control.
• He targeted key races in the 2002 state elections to help the GOP gain control of the Texas House, which had previously blocked redistricting efforts.

LeftofLeft

If WEF/democrats like this guy get the chance, they will arrest you for such speech like they do in countries they control.

WEF/Democrats in America literally arrested a guy for a Hillary meme after Biden won. Text 47352 to vote for Hillary.

Democrats are evil traitors and must be defeated at all cost.

Democrats = traitors

 

[TheGreatSatan]

You are so blind to see that Abbott and the Republicans are doing what Democrats have done in California, Massachusetts, New York, Illinois. Can you articulate a difference ??

They can and do.

WEF/Democrat shillbots and NPCs maliciously gaslight Americans.

They have no good intentions for Americans.

An American voting for democrats is like a chicken voting for KFC

 

[TheGreatSatan]

LeftofLeft, shut up until you know better.

Tom DeLay, then the House Majority Leader, orchestrated a controversial mid-decade redistricting effort in Texas in 2003, breaking with the tradition of redrawing congressional maps only once per decade following the U.S. Census.

What Happened​

• After the 2000 Census, Texas redistricted as expected in 2001.
• But in 2003, DeLay pushed for a second round of redistricting, aiming to flip Democratic-held seats to Republican control.
• He targeted key races in the 2002 state elections to help the GOP gain control of the Texas House, which had previously blocked redistricting efforts.

^^^ will lie and tell you states like California and NY are drawn totally fair.

If California and NY get redone, it can only hurt democrats because they are already gerrymandered to the max for democrats.

Let the gerrymandering begin.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Well, my political opponents are Democrats and Republicans. I can't really care which one goes last. But gerrymandering is obviously corrupt and needs to go.

I agree about gerrymandering, but the reason it is so wrong is the advantage it gives one side...putting an end to it will allow for long term advantage depending on who has the last say on the map...redrawing it every so often is really just a compromise to prevent that.

 

[dblack]

I agree about gerrymandering, but the reason it is so wrong is the advantage it gives one side...

Again, can't give a single **** about your "sides". They are the problem.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Again, can't give a single **** about your "sides". They are the problem.

well then why even care about it at all?

 

[dblack]

well then why even care about it at all?

LOL - OK, you might want sit down because this will come as a shock to you: some of us care more about our country than our party.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

LOL - OK, you might want sit down because this will come as a shock to you: some of us care more about our country than our party.

ditto on the "lol"

 

[Zincwarrior]

Im not loyal to any party.

I'm loyal to America and humanity and I align against their enemies.

Horseshit you say Democrats are evil.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Sure they can. VOTE.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Horseshit you say Democrats are evil.

Democrats are evil.

People who manipulate and mutilate children are pure evil.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Democrats are evil.

People who manipulate and mutilate children are pure evil.

You prove my point dipshit.

 

[Orangecat]

60% of Americans hate Trump's fucked up tariffs and they hate his Big Ugly Bill.

Take your own advice:

That doesn't mean anything, simp.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Democrats can’t win the gerrymander war​

MSN

28 Aug 2025 ~~ By David Daley

Democrats are staring down a gerrymandering Armageddon, and don’t have a lot of good answers. But if they think this current moment is frightening, just wait until the coming reapportionment apocalypse.
Their current gerrymandering problem threatens their hopes of taking back control of the House of Representatives in the 2026 midterms. Reapportionment could be much worse than that, potentially an existential threat that pushes them into a minority for another decade.
How leading Democrats address these two significant challenges will determine whether they can pry back control of Congress, state legislatures and even the White House. But as Republican gerrymanders threaten to metastasize uncontrollably across the national map, Democrats don’t seem to fully understand the math or the depth of their difficulties.
Any day now, Texas will enact a new congressional map that nets as many as five additional GOP seats. This brazen mid-decade power grab will enhance the Republicans’ slender, three-seat majority in the U.S. House — and it won’t stop there. Ohio, Indiana, Missouri and Florida will go next, grabbing the GOP perhaps another six seats. Should Republicans decide to play serious hardball, they could remap North Carolina, Kentucky, Kansas and New Hampshire too.
~Snip~
Democrats are in a hole, and the retaliatory gerrymander of California only gets them a couple of rungs up the ladder. They need a plan that gets them all the way out. Instead of “fighting fire with fire,” and declaring wars that they can’t actually wage for another three years — in the 2028 presidential campaign, that is — they’d be wise to devise such a plan. It has to start with persuading voters in states where the Democratic brand has become toxic to consider them afresh. And it had better start now.

Commentary:
Surprised this comes from Salon....
Democrats are only interested in winning the gerrymander PR war.
t is the same old stand-by for DSA Marxist Democrat Leftists, when the will of the voters is against them: Turn to activist judges, who are more than willing to make findings in Blue states that conservative judges wont do in Red states.
Truth in the matter is that Ultra Blue states are already gerrymandered so 40% GOP voters in state garner less than 20% house seats. Law of diminishing returns is in play.
The article basically says: what the Democrats need is a brilliant plan. It gives no clue as to what the brilliant plan might be, perhaps because they have none.
Democrats have already done what the GOP is doing now.
“Democrats simply control too few states, and they’ve pretty much maxed out the maps in the states where they hold trifecta power.”

Except..they can. And..there's no guarantee that the efforts in Texas will ultimately be successful...you know, courts and all that.

The real "surprise" here comes from the fact that Republicans and conservatives have finally figured out that their supplication to Trump and their lack of any substantive policy initiatives are finally coming back to haunt them. So they are going to try and game the system. Not a real shocker.

Conservatism.....a dead and failed ideology.

 

[Orangecat]

I agree about gerrymandering, but the reason it is so wrong is the advantage it gives one side...putting an end to it will allow for long term advantage depending on who has the last say on the map...redrawing it every so often is really just a compromise to prevent that.

Or just make it a grid. No crazy shapes, just equal sized squares on a map.