Biden to cancel the Keystone pipeline via executive action on 1st day, Trudeau already complaining, conservatives like Ann Coulter already pouncing!

[surada]

When it puts more Americans back to work it does not hurt any American’s standard of living. Especially with cheap energy.

Cheap energy puts Americans out of work too.

There’s always winners and losers. An American gets a job putting together a dishwasher. The rest of us pay more for dishwashers.

Cheap energy makes more jobs you moron.......high energy costs cost more jobs, you moron. You left wing, economic morons ruin country after country and you never fucking learn.

Cheap oil puts domestic producers out of business. Don't you remember 1985-86? Papa Bush begged OPEC to raise the ppb because domestic producers were laying off oil workers ad shutting down? You could buy a house in Plano for 40 cents on the dollar and the owner would throw in the boat.

 

[colfax_m]

Cheap energy makes more jobs you moron

So does importing cheap steel but Trump decided to put a tariff on that to support US steel workers.

Same exact rationale.

 

[basquebromance]

 

[surada]

Well, he wants a job building pipelines when Keystone already has excess, unused capacity allover the MidWest. The five refineries in the Mid West will go broke.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

and will by-pass 5 refineries in the mid West so they can sell refined products overseas without paying taxes.

Why won't the refiners pay corporate tax?
Why won't the employees pay income tax?

 

[surada]

and will by-pass 5 refineries in the mid West so they can sell refined products overseas without paying taxes.

Why won't the refiners pay corporate tax?
Why won't the employees pay income tax?

They won't be paying tax on the specialty products they sell overseas from the Free Trade Zone.. NONE of the Canadian oil refined at Houston or Port Arthur will be sold in the US.

I really don't care if the build more unneeded capacity. but that's the reality.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They won't be paying tax on the specialty products they sell overseas from the Free Trade Zone..

Why aren't the refiners paying corporate tax?
Why aren't the employees paying income tax?

 

[Claudette]

Shipped from Israel via the Ukranian and Syrian pipelines...
that would explain a few things.

Biden and his team are no friends of Israel.

I'd say they are no friend to Americans either. That pipeline provided thousands of jobs and Biden decided it had to go??

What a jack ass he is.

 

[healthmyths]

I'm asking that question because from my understanding of critics of Keystone, the danger of oil spills damaging the environment is the number one reason. Do all of you that oppose Keystone agree? What other reason can there possibly be?

OK... so let's consider the damage that COULD be done if Keystone is not completed.
The pipeline, which has been in development for more than a decade, aims to transport 830,000 barrels of oil per day from Alberta tar sands in Canada to refineries along the US’ Gulf Coast. Faced with lawsuits and strong opposition from environmental groups, the project was rejected by the Obama-Biden administration in 2015 over “environmental concerns” – a decision reversed by Donald Trump in 2017.

So as an alternative Canada’s government is also expanding the state-owned Trans Mountain line by 590,000 bpd to 890,000 bpd. That line terminates at the Port of Vancouver, where it should be able to deliver
1,000,000 barrels via tankers per day to the United States.

Even without Keystone XL, U.S. set for record Canadian oil imports

The Keystone XL pipeline project may be dead, but the United States is still poised to pull in record imports of Canadian oil in coming years through other pipelines that are in the midst of expanding.

www.reuters.com

So delivering oil by tankers to the USA using the open oceans seems to be an alternative.

HMMM... let's see.. 1,000,000 barrels traveling on the open ocean down to USA is safer than 830,000 barrels traveling 1,700 miles or less than 500 barrels traveling 1 mile on dry land through pipes with 16 monitors per mile.
Hmmm... which would be more dangerous? Remember 1989 Exxon Valdez?

Please someone explain how environmentalists can be in favor of 1 million barrels traveling on the open ocean?

 

[Moonglow]

The Keystone pipeline system, an addition to which has been the subject of environmental protests for years, leaked about 383,000 gallons of crude oil in North Dakota, covering an estimated half-acre of wetland, state environmental regulators said.

Keystone Pipeline Leaks 383,000 Gallons of Oil in North Dakota (Published 2019)

The spill in the northeastern part of the state, which occurred along a different stretch than the controversial XL pipeline addition, coated an estimated half-acre of wetland, officials said.

www.nytimes.com

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HISTORY OF SPILLS: TransCanada’s Keystone pipeline (21 SPILLS: 2010-19)

Keystone Pipeline Spill History | Bold Nebraska

TC Energy oil spill PR oil discharge 12-9-22 (Photo: U.S. EPA) Site of 380,000-gallon tarsands oil spill from Keystone pipeline in northeastern North Dakota on Oct. 30, 2019. (Photo: Grand Forks Herald) April 2016 Keystone pipeline spill site on farmland near Freeman, South Dakota. (Photo...

boldnebraska.org

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm asking that question because from my understanding of critics of Keystone, the danger of oil spills damaging the environment is the number one reason. Do all of you that oppose Keystone agree? What other reason can there possibly be?

OK... so let's consider the damage that COULD be done if Keystone is not completed.
The pipeline, which has been in development for more than a decade, aims to transport 830,000 barrels of oil per day from Alberta tar sands in Canada to refineries along the US’ Gulf Coast. Faced with lawsuits and strong opposition from environmental groups, the project was rejected by the Obama-Biden administration in 2015 over “environmental concerns” – a decision reversed by Donald Trump in 2017.

So as an alternative Canada’s government is also expanding the state-owned Trans Mountain line by 590,000 bpd to 890,000 bpd. That line terminates at the Port of Vancouver, where it should be able to deliver
1,000,000 barrels via tankers per day to the United States.

Even without Keystone XL, U.S. set for record Canadian oil imports

The Keystone XL pipeline project may be dead, but the United States is still poised to pull in record imports of Canadian oil in coming years through other pipelines that are in the midst of expanding.

www.reuters.com

So delivering oil by tankers to the USA using the open oceans seems to be an alternative.

HMMM... let's see.. 1,000,000 barrels traveling on the open ocean down to USA is safer than 830,000 barrels traveling 1,700 miles or less than 500 barrels traveling 1 mile on dry land through pipes with 16 monitors per mile.
Hmmm... which would be more dangerous? Remember 1989 Exxon Valdez?

Please someone explain how environmentalists can be in favor of 1 million barrels traveling on the open ocean?

By attacking the Keystone pipeline, Xi's man significantly and dramatically lowers domestic energy production. This shifts dependence back to foreign oil, particularly Russia, Iran, and Venezuela - three countries closely aligned with the democrat party who have been decimated by the resurgence of American energy independence.

Beijing Biden took action to repay the three sponsor nations for years of support they have provided to him and to the democrat party.

Biden is working to make OPEC great again.

 

[ColonelAngus]

The real reason is that libs want expensive fuel to push theor green new deal.

Tankers are way more dangerous to the environment than pipelines.

We have pipelines crisscrossing the nation...but all of a sudden this XL Pipeline is going to kill us all?

Did they ever finish that fraud environmental impact study by Obama?

 

[The Irish Ram]

Several.
To make us energy dependent again.
To make Buffet a lot more money by using his much more dangerous Buffet bombs to transport what we do produce.

To further cripple our economy, and add thousands to the government welfare system.
To enrich the governments that we will be forced to buy oil and gas from.

 

[harmonica]

..he said it today--one of America's biggest and most important problems--it's everywhere and affects everything:



WHITE SUPREMACY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[healthmyths]

The Keystone pipeline system, an addition to which has been the subject of environmental protests for years, leaked about 383,000 gallons of crude oil in North Dakota, covering an estimated half-acre of wetland, state environmental regulators said.

Keystone Pipeline Leaks 383,000 Gallons of Oil in North Dakota (Published 2019)

The spill in the northeastern part of the state, which occurred along a different stretch than the controversial XL pipeline addition, coated an estimated half-acre of wetland, officials said.

www.nytimes.com

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HISTORY OF SPILLS: TransCanada’s Keystone pipeline (21 SPILLS: 2010-19)

Keystone Pipeline Spill History | Bold Nebraska

TC Energy oil spill PR oil discharge 12-9-22 (Photo: U.S. EPA) Site of 380,000-gallon tarsands oil spill from Keystone pipeline in northeastern North Dakota on Oct. 30, 2019. (Photo: Grand Forks Herald) April 2016 Keystone pipeline spill site on farmland near Freeman, South Dakota. (Photo...

boldnebraska.org

383,000 gallons is equal to 7,000 barrels.
he Exxon Valdez oil spill occurred in Prince William Sound, Alaska, March 24, 1989, when the Exxon Valdez, an oil tanker owned by Exxon Shipping Company, bound for Long Beach, California, struck Prince William Sound's Bligh Reef, 1.5 mi (2.4 km) west of Tatitlek, Alaska, at 12:04 a.m. and spilled 10.8 million US gallons (257,000 bbl) (or 37,000 tonnes) of crude oil over the next few days.The oil, originally extracted at the Prudhoe Bay Oil Field, eventually affected 1,300 miles (2,100 km) of coastline, of which 200 miles (320 km) were heavily or moderately oiled.[2][6][7]
And the damage is still going on.

Thirty years after Exxon Valdez, the response to oil spills is still all wrong | Riki Ott and Jack Siddoway

Chemicals used to clean up spills have harmed marine wildlife, response workers and coastal residents. The EPA must act

www.theguardian.com

How many barrels of oil were actually recovered in the half-acre of wetland??? (Half-acre) Exxon Valdez affected 1,300 MILES!!!
TC Energy, formerly known as TransCanada and which operates the pipeline, said Thursday that an estimated 9,120 barrels of oil, enough to fill half of an Olympic-sized swimming pool, was released in the spill.

YUP certainly is a danger... 9,000 barrels vs 257,000 barrels?

 

[ColonelAngus]

Here is a graphic for dumb fuck ill informed liberals....the nation already has thousands of miles of pipeline.

LIBS, everything they do makes America weaker because they want communism.

 

[Uncensored2008]

..he said it today--one of America's biggest and most important problems--it's everywhere and affects everything:



WHITE SUPREMACY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If democrats can only come up with a final solution to the white people problem....

 

[Yarddog]

The Keystone pipeline system, an addition to which has been the subject of environmental protests for years, leaked about 383,000 gallons of crude oil in North Dakota, covering an estimated half-acre of wetland, state environmental regulators said.

Keystone Pipeline Leaks 383,000 Gallons of Oil in North Dakota (Published 2019)

The spill in the northeastern part of the state, which occurred along a different stretch than the controversial XL pipeline addition, coated an estimated half-acre of wetland, officials said.

www.nytimes.com

.


HISTORY OF SPILLS: TransCanada’s Keystone pipeline (21 SPILLS: 2010-19)

Keystone Pipeline Spill History | Bold Nebraska

TC Energy oil spill PR oil discharge 12-9-22 (Photo: U.S. EPA) Site of 380,000-gallon tarsands oil spill from Keystone pipeline in northeastern North Dakota on Oct. 30, 2019. (Photo: Grand Forks Herald) April 2016 Keystone pipeline spill site on farmland near Freeman, South Dakota. (Photo...

boldnebraska.org

thats still relatively an easy clean up as oil tends to stay on the surface and not contaminate deep ground water. Pipelines can be improved. Oils spills out in the ocean or around life bearing reefs are much more a hazard. Where possible we should always choose over land pipelines ahead of ocean travel.

 

[Yarddog]

The real reason is that libs want expensive fuel to push theor green new deal.

Tankers are way more dangerous to the environment than pipelines.

We have pipelines crisscrossing the nation...but all of a sudden this XL Pipeline is going to kill us all?

Did they ever finish that fraud environmental impact study by Obama?

This also tends to "punish" a bunch of Trump voters. I would never underestimate that point.

 

[Dragonlady]

I'm asking that question because from my understanding of critics of Keystone, the danger of oil spills damaging the environment is the number one reason. Do all of you that oppose Keystone agree? What other reason can there possibly be?

OK... so let's consider the damage that COULD be done if Keystone is not completed.
The pipeline, which has been in development for more than a decade, aims to transport 830,000 barrels of oil per day from Alberta tar sands in Canada to refineries along the US’ Gulf Coast. Faced with lawsuits and strong opposition from environmental groups, the project was rejected by the Obama-Biden administration in 2015 over “environmental concerns” – a decision reversed by Donald Trump in 2017.

So as an alternative Canada’s government is also expanding the state-owned Trans Mountain line by 590,000 bpd to 890,000 bpd. That line terminates at the Port of Vancouver, where it should be able to deliver
1,000,000 barrels via tankers per day to the United States.

Even without Keystone XL, U.S. set for record Canadian oil imports

The Keystone XL pipeline project may be dead, but the United States is still poised to pull in record imports of Canadian oil in coming years through other pipelines that are in the midst of expanding.

www.reuters.com

So delivering oil by tankers to the USA using the open oceans seems to be an alternative.

HMMM... let's see.. 1,000,000 barrels traveling on the open ocean down to USA is safer than 830,000 barrels traveling 1,700 miles or less than 500 barrels traveling 1 mile on dry land through pipes with 16 monitors per mile.
Hmmm... which would be more dangerous? Remember 1989 Exxon Valdez?

Please someone explain how environmentalists can be in favor of 1 million barrels traveling on the open ocean?

Potential destruction of the ground water and water tables for indigineous peoples' communities along the route. The entire Keystone pipeline route endangers groundwater and the water tables in every state it passes through. There have already been leaks.

The obvious solution is to cut your oil useage. Millions of jobs will be created in the change over. Billions of dollars to be made.