Biden to cancel the Keystone pipeline via executive action on 1st day, Trudeau already complaining, conservatives like Ann Coulter already pouncing!

crossing native American land, and a vital fresh water aquifer,

How far below ground are these vital aquifers?


The depth to the water table of the Ogallala Aquifer varies from actual surface discharge to over 150 meters (500 feet). Generally, the aquifer is found from 15 to 90 meters (50 to 300 feet) below the land surface. The saturated thickness also varies greatly.
Ogallala Aquifer - depth, important, system, source
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So it would probably take a while for any spilled oil to reach the water, right?

Don't know.. Israel's aquifers are ruined.. The costal aquifer has been overpumped and backfills with salt water. Both are polluted with heavy metals and ecoli.

Sounds awful!
Has zero to do with risks from Keystone.
 
Volume makes up for lower prices.
Shouldn’t have to tolerate lower prices if we wouldn’t be flooding the US market with cheap foreign goods.

America first. Not Canada first.
We’re getting cheap foreign goods from Canada?
Oil. Cmon man. Follow the conversation.
We have plenty of our own oil, too. The more available, the less dependence on opec and the cheaper the price. The cheaper the price, the less everything else costs, the more money people have to buy stuff and the more the economy expands.
But you know all of this. You’re just being obtuse.
 
We have plenty of our own oil, too. The more available, the less dependence on opec and the cheaper the price. The cheaper the price, the less everything else costs, the more money people have to buy stuff and the more the economy expands.
But you know all of this. You’re just being obtuse
I know. But it’s a good indictment on the overall Trump economics and how intellectually bankrupt it is.
 
We have plenty of our own oil, too. The more available, the less dependence on opec and the cheaper the price. The cheaper the price, the less everything else costs, the more money people have to buy stuff and the more the economy expands.
But you know all of this. You’re just being obtuse
I know. But it’s a good indictment on the overall Trump economics and how intellectually bankrupt it is.
How is being aware of trump’s policy of expanded domestic energy ‘intellectually bankrupt’?
 
How is being aware of trump’s policy of expanded domestic energy ‘intellectually bankrupt’?
Keystone pipeline isn’t domestic energy. It’s foreign oil.

You recognize that importing foreign goods lowers domestic prices, which is good for Americans.

That can be said about importing anything from abroad.

But there’s always going to be a cost to domestic workers.

Here, Canadian oil lowers US oil prices and reduces US oil profitability and therefore costs jobs. Same could be said about importing anything.

Trump’s economic philosophy is bankrupt.
 
How is being aware of trump’s policy of expanded domestic energy ‘intellectually bankrupt’?
Keystone pipeline isn’t domestic energy. It’s foreign oil.

You recognize that importing foreign goods lowers domestic prices, which is good for Americans.

That can be said about importing anything from abroad.

But there’s always going to be a cost to domestic workers.

Here, Canadian oil lowers US oil prices and reduces US oil profitability and therefore costs jobs. Same could be said about importing anything.

Trump’s economic philosophy is bankrupt.
Oil is a global market. More oil means cheaper prices. Volume compensates for that for oil producers. Everything else becomes more affordable. Win-win.
 
How is being aware of trump’s policy of expanded domestic energy ‘intellectually bankrupt’?
Keystone pipeline isn’t domestic energy. It’s foreign oil.

You recognize that importing foreign goods lowers domestic prices, which is good for Americans.

That can be said about importing anything from abroad.

But there’s always going to be a cost to domestic workers.

Here, Canadian oil lowers US oil prices and reduces US oil profitability and therefore costs jobs. Same could be said about importing anything.

Trump’s economic philosophy is bankrupt.
If you were truly concerned about any trade imbalance you’d cut off China and regain our manufacturing base. Cheap energy would nicely offset the increase in costs related to more domestic manufacturing.
 
If you were truly concerned about any trade imbalance you’d cut off China and regain our manufacturing base. Cheap energy would nicely offset the increase in costs related to more domestic manufacturing.

That was the game Trump tried to play, but he did it poorly.

Cut off trade to China, manufacturing moves to India. Then you cut off trade to India, manufacturing moves to Viet Nam.

you don’t retain our manufacturing base until you lower the standards for American workers to that of third world nations. Not unless you’re willing to take us out of the world economy.

I’m not worried about trade imbalance. I’m just pointing out how bankrupt Trump’s philosophy is.
 
If you were truly concerned about any trade imbalance you’d cut off China and regain our manufacturing base. Cheap energy would nicely offset the increase in costs related to more domestic manufacturing.

That was the game Trump tried to play, but he did it poorly.

Cut off trade to China, manufacturing moves to India. Then you cut off trade to India, manufacturing moves to Viet Nam.

you don’t retain our manufacturing base until you lower the standards for American workers to that of third world nations. Not unless you’re willing to take us out of the world economy.

I’m not worried about trade imbalance. I’m just pointing out how bankrupt Trump’s philosophy is.
No, you make the trade imbalance cost-prohibitive for the cheaters. That’s what trump was trying to do.
 
If you were truly concerned about any trade imbalance you’d cut off China and regain our manufacturing base. Cheap energy would nicely offset the increase in costs related to more domestic manufacturing.

That was the game Trump tried to play, but he did it poorly.

Cut off trade to China, manufacturing moves to India. Then you cut off trade to India, manufacturing moves to Viet Nam.

you don’t retain our manufacturing base until you lower the standards for American workers to that of third world nations. Not unless you’re willing to take us out of the world economy.

I’m not worried about trade imbalance. I’m just pointing out how bankrupt Trump’s philosophy is.
No, you make the trade imbalance cost-prohibitive for the cheaters. That’s what trump was trying to do.
Cheating has nothing to do with millions of people willing to do the same job as Americans for next to nothing.

You can try to punish China economically, sure. Don’t pretend like that has anything to do with helping US workers. In fact, it raises domestic prices and probably hurts their quality of living.
 
If you were truly concerned about any trade imbalance you’d cut off China and regain our manufacturing base. Cheap energy would nicely offset the increase in costs related to more domestic manufacturing.

That was the game Trump tried to play, but he did it poorly.

Cut off trade to China, manufacturing moves to India. Then you cut off trade to India, manufacturing moves to Viet Nam.

you don’t retain our manufacturing base until you lower the standards for American workers to that of third world nations. Not unless you’re willing to take us out of the world economy.

I’m not worried about trade imbalance. I’m just pointing out how bankrupt Trump’s philosophy is.
No, you make the trade imbalance cost-prohibitive for the cheaters. That’s what trump was trying to do.
Cheating has nothing to do with millions of people willing to do the same job as Americans for next to nothing.

You can try to punish China economically, sure. Don’t pretend like that has anything to do with helping US workers. In fact, it raises domestic prices and probably hurts their quality of living.
When it puts more Americans back to work it does not hurt any American’s standard of living. Especially with cheap energy.
 
When it puts more Americans back to work it does not hurt any American’s standard of living. Especially with cheap energy.
Cheap energy puts Americans out of work too.

There’s always winners and losers. An American gets a job putting together a dishwasher. The rest of us pay more for dishwashers.
 



Joe, "job killer" biden....gets the hat trick...

By canceling the pipeline he kills American jobs, hurts an allied country and damages the environment.....

Add to that empowering China who will naturally get that oil now.....

China's early investment in joe biden is now paying off......and it's just the first day...

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) also inveighed against the move. Unions and most Democrats — about 62% — opposed the cancelation. Canada’s Prime Minister Justin Trudeau also weighed in against the move. Canada is now said to be considering some type of sanction against the United States. Biden’s move affects workers in both countries; it kills about 12,000 jobs in the United States and another 2,000 in Canada as both countries are still reeling from the COVID pandemic’s destruction of jobs.
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Canceling the Keystone XL also hurts the environment. The pipeline would have moved between 800,000 and 830,000 barrels of oil per day safely, off our roads and rails, from where it’s produced to where it can be refined. That was to be Texas, which leads the world in the clean and safe refining of oil into products the modern economy depends on every single day. So some of the jobs lost were in Texas, about which Biden will not care, as Texas did not vote for him.


With the pipeline canceled, Canada will find other customers for its oil. That’s likely to be China and India, two of the world’s fastest-growing and most energy-hungry economies. Instead of being transported safely via the Keystone XL pipeline, the oil will be transported by trucks and ships — both of which emit far more gunk into the atmosphere than pipelines, and both of which are far more prone to accidents and spills. It’s likely to be refined outside the United States, where standards do not match U.S. EPA standards.




More stupidity from Capt Kirk.

How will the Canadians get that "crude" to China? It isn't even oil, its dillbit.

A dillbit leak would be an environmental disaster.

I have to laugh at thids. You are having a fit so a Canadian pipeline company can build a pipeline over our aquifers to transport canadian "oil" to US refineries to process to possibly export to other countries.



Moron, they will have to use ships.....you idiot.
 
When it puts more Americans back to work it does not hurt any American’s standard of living. Especially with cheap energy.
Cheap energy puts Americans out of work too.

There’s always winners and losers. An American gets a job putting together a dishwasher. The rest of us pay more for dishwashers.


Cheap energy makes more jobs you moron.......high energy costs cost more jobs, you moron. You left wing, economic morons ruin country after country and you never fucking learn.
 
crossing native American land, and a vital fresh water aquifer,

How far below ground are these vital aquifers?


The depth to the water table of the Ogallala Aquifer varies from actual surface discharge to over 150 meters (500 feet). Generally, the aquifer is found from 15 to 90 meters (50 to 300 feet) below the land surface. The saturated thickness also varies greatly.
Ogallala Aquifer - depth, important, system, source
View attachment 448532
www.waterencyclopedia.com/Oc-Po/Ogallala-Aquifer.html

So it would probably take a while for any spilled oil to reach the water, right?

Don't know.. Israel's aquifers are ruined.. The costal aquifer has been overpumped and backfills with salt water. Both are polluted with heavy metals and ecoli.

Sounds awful!
Has zero to do with risks from Keystone.

I have no idea what would happen to the Ogallala aquifer.. I do know that Keystone has loads of unused oil pipeline capacity and will by-pass 5 refineries in the mid West so they can sell refined products overseas without paying taxes.
 

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