Bengazi documents disprove all Pub myths

[Sallow]

No what he said was this.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.

That is a general statement about terrorism it is not calling Benghazi a terrorist attack or act of terror. If you however do accept that statement is calling Benghazi a terrorist attack or act of terror why the following weekend was Susan Rice sent on all the Sunday morning talk shows claiming it was about a video?

She qualified her statement on every show with the fact that an investigation was ongoing and that we would have to wait until that is complete for the answers. Media Talking Points were developed and given out. Susan Rice was demonized unjustly for simply doing the job.

Susan Rice was demonized as you put for trying to sell bullshit story to the public about Benghazi. If you don't know the motivation for the attack you say we don't know at this time not throw a video out there as the reason and then try and justify that deception with but were still investigating. It's also telling she never mentions terrorist attack as motive for Benghazi withe disclaimer were still investigating you would think that would be front and center with a attack on Americans in the Middle East on the anniversary of the 2001 9-11 attacks.

Militants attacked a CIA outpost.

Was that an act of terror?

 

[Dirk the Daring]

What happened to Gabby Giffords was an 'act of terror.'

What happened on 9/11 was a 'terrorist act.'

If you cannot tell the difference, you must be a democrat...

 

[Jarhead]

She qualified her statement on every show with the fact that an investigation was ongoing and that we would have to wait until that is complete for the answers. Media Talking Points were developed and given out. Susan Rice was demonized unjustly for simply doing the job.

Susan Rice was demonized as you put for trying to sell bullshit story to the public about Benghazi. If you don't know the motivation for the attack you say we don't know at this time not throw a video out there as the reason and then try and justify that deception with but were still investigating. It's also telling she never mentions terrorist attack as motive for Benghazi withe disclaimer were still investigating you would think that would be front and center with a attack on Americans in the Middle East on the anniversary of the 2001 9-11 attacks.

Militants attacked a CIA outpost.

Was that an act of terror?

A maniac running around hitting innocents over the head with a brick is an act of terror. But it does not make him a terrorist as the term is used in normal conversation today.

FYI....."Act of Terror" defines the act.

"Terrorist attack " defines the one committing the act.

A drunk driver commits an act of terror t5o those around him but is not deemed as a terrorist.

It is pathetic that you need to reach so far to defend an obvious scenario by this administration used for political expediency.

He really has you debating for him from your heels.

 

[Sallow]

What happened to Gabby Giffords was an 'act of terror.'

What happened on 9/11 was a 'terrorist act.'

If you cannot tell the difference, you must be a democrat...

What happened to Gifford's was Palin's "Second Amendment Solution".

What happened at 9/11 was Reagan's "Founding Fathers of Afghanistan" showing their appreciation.

 

[Sallow]

Susan Rice was demonized as you put for trying to sell bullshit story to the public about Benghazi. If you don't know the motivation for the attack you say we don't know at this time not throw a video out there as the reason and then try and justify that deception with but were still investigating. It's also telling she never mentions terrorist attack as motive for Benghazi withe disclaimer were still investigating you would think that would be front and center with a attack on Americans in the Middle East on the anniversary of the 2001 9-11 attacks.

Militants attacked a CIA outpost.

Was that an act of terror?

A maniac running around hitting innocents over the head with a brick is an act of terror. But it does not make him a terrorist as the term is used in normal conversation today.

FYI....."Act of Terror" defines the act.

"Terrorist attack " defines the one committing the act.

A drunk driver commits an act of terror t5o those around him but is not deemed as a terrorist.

It is pathetic that you need to reach so far to defend an obvious scenario by this administration used for political expediency.

He really has you debating for him from your heels.

It's a really binary question.

A foreign entity sets up a diplomatic consulate in your country that is really a headquarters for spies and are holding your countryman prisoner.

If you attack, are you committing terrorism?

Yes..or..No?

 

[Freewill]

She qualified her statement on every show with the fact that an investigation was ongoing and that we would have to wait until that is complete for the answers. Media Talking Points were developed and given out. Susan Rice was demonized unjustly for simply doing the job.

Susan Rice was demonized as you put for trying to sell bullshit story to the public about Benghazi. If you don't know the motivation for the attack you say we don't know at this time not throw a video out there as the reason and then try and justify that deception with but were still investigating. It's also telling she never mentions terrorist attack as motive for Benghazi withe disclaimer were still investigating you would think that would be front and center with a attack on Americans in the Middle East on the anniversary of the 2001 9-11 attacks.

Militants attacked a CIA outpost.

Was that an act of terror?

Good question and the one I always ask. My thinking is that if it is a terrorist act then it can be assigned to small groups of radicals. But if a organized military attack that means there is some nation, perhaps, backing the attack.

 

[blackhawk]

She qualified her statement on every show with the fact that an investigation was ongoing and that we would have to wait until that is complete for the answers. Media Talking Points were developed and given out. Susan Rice was demonized unjustly for simply doing the job.

Susan Rice was demonized as you put for trying to sell bullshit story to the public about Benghazi. If you don't know the motivation for the attack you say we don't know at this time not throw a video out there as the reason and then try and justify that deception with but were still investigating. It's also telling she never mentions terrorist attack as motive for Benghazi withe disclaimer were still investigating you would think that would be front and center with a attack on Americans in the Middle East on the anniversary of the 2001 9-11 attacks.

Militants attacked a CIA outpost.

Was that an act of terror?

As I have already stated I believe Obamas act of terror comment was a general statement about terrorism he was not calling Benghazi a terrorist attack.

 

[Sallow]

Susan Rice was demonized as you put for trying to sell bullshit story to the public about Benghazi. If you don't know the motivation for the attack you say we don't know at this time not throw a video out there as the reason and then try and justify that deception with but were still investigating. It's also telling she never mentions terrorist attack as motive for Benghazi withe disclaimer were still investigating you would think that would be front and center with a attack on Americans in the Middle East on the anniversary of the 2001 9-11 attacks.

Militants attacked a CIA outpost.

Was that an act of terror?

Good question and the one I always ask. My thinking is that if it is a terrorist act then it can be assigned to small groups of radicals. But if a organized military attack that means there is some nation, perhaps, backing the attack.

What do you consider radical in Libya?

That's a serious question.

It was being run by a terrorist...who planned and financed the Lockerbie bombing.

And the folks that fought him during the Civil war, were backed by us and France.

And those may be the very folks that attacked to Consulate. And that may have been after they learned that it was a CIA outpost holding Libyans prisoner.

They were also well acquainted with the video that was making it's round in the Middle East..it seems.

So given all that..was it terror?

Or self defense?

 

[Sallow]

Susan Rice was demonized as you put for trying to sell bullshit story to the public about Benghazi. If you don't know the motivation for the attack you say we don't know at this time not throw a video out there as the reason and then try and justify that deception with but were still investigating. It's also telling she never mentions terrorist attack as motive for Benghazi withe disclaimer were still investigating you would think that would be front and center with a attack on Americans in the Middle East on the anniversary of the 2001 9-11 attacks.

Militants attacked a CIA outpost.

Was that an act of terror?

As I have already stated I believe Obamas act of terror comment was a general statement about terrorism he was not calling Benghazi a terrorist attack.

I'm asking you.

Is attacking spies in your home country an act of terror?

 

[Mojo2]

Militants attacked a CIA outpost.

Was that an act of terror?

As I have already stated I believe Obamas act of terror comment was a general statement about terrorism he was not calling Benghazi a terrorist attack.

I'm asking you.

Is attacking spies in your home country an act of terror?

Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).

http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFil...ims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

Were you included in this survey?

In America we prefer arresting spies and giving them their day in court.

You support street justice.

Figures.

 

[Mojo2]

She qualified her statement on every show with the fact that an investigation was ongoing and that we would have to wait until that is complete for the answers. Media Talking Points were developed and given out. Susan Rice was demonize unjustly for simply doing the job.

Actually, what she did was have her cake and eat it too.

In every interview she said "in fact" when discussing the video as the cause for the attack....and then toward the end she would say "it is an ongoing investigation"

Just as Obama did...he had his cake and eat it too...

He talked of the video, said no act of terror will be tolerated.....and therefore gave reason for people to believe he was blaming the video AND still had the abiulity to say "look at the video tape, I called it an act of terror at the very beginning.

Now....if you don't see that, then you are exactly what he thinks you are....one who easily falls for his gift for gab.

Truth be told I watched her on Meet the Press. She came on right after the President of Libya. She gave her disclaimer in the beginning. It was obvious that she was disseminating carefully crafted talking points (aka Propaganda) kinda like Condoleezza Rice did in the run up to the Iraq Invasion. It would have been stupid to assume they were telling the world everything they knew. In fact they would have been stupid(perhaps criminal) if they did.

Criminal, eh?

And if the whole thing gets swept under the rug and everyone keeps their jobs and are undeterred from running for higher office without a second thought, well that's a small price to pay to prevent any criminal acts that might occur from TELLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE TRUTH EVEN AFTER TWO YEARS!

Right?



Spare us the calculated sanctimony.

 

[Sallow]

As I have already stated I believe Obamas act of terror comment was a general statement about terrorism he was not calling Benghazi a terrorist attack.

I'm asking you.

Is attacking spies in your home country an act of terror?

Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).

http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFil...ims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

Were you included in this survey?

In America we prefer arresting spies and giving them their day in court.

You support street justice.

Figures.

We also have our own government free of outside influence.

Not like you'd know that.

Figures.

 

[BlindBoo]

Actually, what she did was have her cake and eat it too.

In every interview she said "in fact" when discussing the video as the cause for the attack....and then toward the end she would say "it is an ongoing investigation"

Just as Obama did...he had his cake and eat it too...

He talked of the video, said no act of terror will be tolerated.....and therefore gave reason for people to believe he was blaming the video AND still had the abiulity to say "look at the video tape, I called it an act of terror at the very beginning.

Now....if you don't see that, then you are exactly what he thinks you are....one who easily falls for his gift for gab.

Truth be told I watched her on Meet the Press. She came on right after the President of Libya. She gave her disclaimer in the beginning. It was obvious that she was disseminating carefully crafted talking points (aka Propaganda) kinda like Condoleezza Rice did in the run up to the Iraq Invasion. It would have been stupid to assume they were telling the world everything they knew. In fact they would have been stupid(perhaps criminal) if they did.

Criminal, eh?

And if the whole things gets swept under the rug and everyone keeps their jobs and are undeterred from running for higher office without a second thought, well that's a small price to pay to prevent any criminal acts that might occur from TELLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE TRUTH EVEN AFTER TWO YEARS!

Right?



Spare us the calculated sanctimony.

The Sunday talk shows were 5 days after the attacks.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Declassified Benghazi Transcripts Debunk Fox's Favorite Myths | Research | Media Matters for America

The thing about myths is they attach themselves to the bone

"Declassified transcripts from House Armed Services Committee hearings on the September 11, 2012 Benghazi attacks revealed Fox News' highly politicized Benghazi reporting rarely reflected the facts on the ground."

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

"Stand down!"

 

[Antares]

Too funny, you have an entire group of people here creating their own narrative as to what "may" have happened and completely disregarding the General who was in charge AND the Senate Committee (dominated by Dems).

All to protect the single most dishonest President the Nation has ever had.

 

[Antares]

Now you want to parse the difference between "Stand down" and "Remain in place"

You people are desperate.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Too funny, you have an entire group of people here creating their own narrative as to what "may" have happened and completely disregarding the General who was in charge AND the Senate Committee (dominated by Dems).

All to protect the single most dishonest President the Nation has ever had.

yawn: "After reading the cable, Gen. Carter F. Ham, then the commander of the United States Africa Command, called Mr. Stevens to ask if the embassy in Tripoli needed additional military personnel, potentially for use in Benghazi, “but Stevens told Ham it did not,” the report said. A short time later, General Ham reiterated the offer at a meeting in Germany, and “Stevens again declined,” the report said."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/16/w...rt-finds-benghazi-attack-was-preventable.html

 

[Dirk the Daring]

What happened to Gabby Giffords was an 'act of terror.'

What happened on 9/11 was a 'terrorist act.'

If you cannot tell the difference, you must be a democrat...

What happened to Gifford's was Palin's "Second Amendment Solution".

What happened at 9/11 was Reagan's "Founding Fathers of Afghanistan" showing their appreciation.

That fact that you seriously believe this astonishes me. You're a caricature, a case study in liberal ignorance. You should be studied in labs across the country.

 

[Antares]

Too funny, you have an entire group of people here creating their own narrative as to what "may" have happened and completely disregarding the General who was in charge AND the Senate Committee (dominated by Dems).

All to protect the single most dishonest President the Nation has ever had.

yawn: "After reading the cable, Gen. Carter F. Ham, then the commander of the United States Africa Command, called Mr. Stevens to ask if the embassy in Tripoli needed additional military personnel, potentially for use in Benghazi, “but Stevens told Ham it did not,” the report said. A short time later, General Ham reiterated the offer at a meeting in Germany, and “Stevens again declined,” the report said."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/16/w...rt-finds-benghazi-attack-was-preventable.html

You don't like the part that the good General briefed both Hillary and Obama within 20 mins telling them it was an act of terror attack not connected to the video?