Zone1 Are LDS (Mormons) Christians?

[Cougarbear]

Live like there is a Logan's Run at 32.

Why 32? You 32 now?

 

[Cougarbear]

I gave you the chapter and verse Please, demonstrate how they condone levels of heaven,

Also, Paul saw the highest heaven of glory, celestial glory, the third heaven. Was he lying? No. But you refuse to acknowledge that which is in front of your face.

 

[Cougarbear]

what "bigoted religious words" are those?

Your hatred to those who don't believe as you do. If you don't know what's coming out of your own brain, then you need some help.

 

[Winston]

Also, Paul saw the highest heaven of glory, celestial glory, the third heaven. Was he lying? No. But you refuse to acknowledge that which is in front of your face.

I gave you chapter and verse. It does not say what you claim. Perhaps you have another verse to submit? Or do you just foolishly run your mouth?

 

[MarathonMike]

Time fucking travelers, magical golden tablets that no one has seen. Founded by a known con artist. Give me a damn break.

You have to hand it to Joseph Smith. That guy must have been the greatest salesman of all time!

 

[HikerGuy83]

true but how do they get faith? they either read something or somebody tells them.......this is the way and they agree

same way propaganda works, you get a speaker who convinces you his way is the best way

Well, if you knew what mormons teach....you'd know they say you can't be convinced.

In fact, as of late, the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints has indicated that anyone who does not do the work to gain a testimony by the Spirit (Holy Ghost) and a conviction....won't survive spiritually.

That sounds like putting the onus on you and everyone else to find out for themselves and NOT be convinced by mom, dad, brother, sister, or Bishop.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Time fucking travelers, magical golden tablets that no one has seen. Founded by a known con artist. Give me a damn break.

Guessing that is what Paul was saying on the Road to Damascus.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Doesn't seem very Christian to me....Then again killing all the adults and kids that might remember, placing the young kids with Mormon families, and auctioning off their shit, might be fine with them......Maybe they roll from the Old Testament.

One of the main perps (John D. Lee) has a direct descendant in the US Senate in Sen. Mike Lee.

Yes, it doesn't.

Neither do the crusades or inquisitions.

People who are religious are not perfect....and in some cases they really make a mess of things....in the name of religion.

So what ?

 

[HikerGuy83]

You have to hand it to Joseph Smith. That guy must have been the greatest salesman of all time!

Actually, he was pretty lousy.

One of his first revelations published (and later included in the D&C was section 5 where he gets his butt chewed for not following God....but instead bowing to the pressure of men.

If you are setting yourself up to be a high and mighty, I don't think you publish revelations where the Almighty bawls you out.

But I could be wrong.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I gave you the chapter and verse Please, demonstrate how they condone levels of heaven,

Condone ?????

He simply references the third heaven. Both for and against have an equal argument as there is little else on the subject.

But then, that is why God gave apostles and prophets.

Most of the New Testament is Paul's writings to congregations correcting their mistakes and giving encouragement.

There was no bible at that time. And there was certainly no book of revelations.

The Old Testament grew as each prophet arrived and kept history of his dealings. Adding to the book as it were.

 

[HikerGuy83]

They have a church in my AO....They are sorta odd.....They vote dem but are armed to the teeth and have their own range on church grounds.

My former neighbor is a Mormon but he would not have anything to do with them because he works for the BP and that particular bunch believes in unfettered Mormon immigration from Mexico.

Something to do with a Momon area down there and they want them up here.....Maybe they got their wish with FJB's open border.

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I know BP people (lived in Artesia, NM) and most were very conservative.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Look, I know the Mormon church has attempted to evolve, but at its core it is a racist, homophobic, misogynist cult, period.

Ignore button again. Twice this week.

 

[Cougarbear]

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I gave you chapter and verse. It does not say what you claim. Perhaps you have another verse to submit? Or do you just foolishly run your mouth?

I gave you the verses. It’s exactly what it says. Three degrees of glory in heaven. Many mansions as the Bible says.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Everyone knows I am one of the harshest critics of Moromism here.

But I would never deny you guys are technically Christians.

I would also not want to worship any God who casts people into Hell our the "Outer Darkness" because they had the bad luck to be born into the wrong faith and just don't know anything else.

well, you are in luck cause we believe everyone gets into paradise.

 

[1srelluc]

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I know BP people (lived in Artesia, NM) and most were very conservative.

Yeah, from what I'm told they are single issue voters (immigration) but are otherwise "normal".

Maybe that has changed but I note the district that they are all in still had about the same number of dem voters last November.