Zone1 Mormonism In A Nutshell

[GLASNOST]

Just a few weeks ago I saw a few documentaries explaining Mormonism. Whew! It was complicated! Thank goodness I just found a condensed explanation for all of it:

 

[Zebra]

How many do know all that?

 

[luiza]

Just a few weeks ago I saw a few documentaries explaining Mormonism. Whew! It was complicated! Thank goodness I just found a condensed explanation for all of it:

A strange Cult .
Very similar to Judaism .
The Chosen theme .
Led by someone who was contacted -- Moses /Joseph Smith.
A good religion for simple Sheeplets needing simple answers .
Fine if firmly controlled .
A damned pest if not .

 

[SaxonJackson]

Just a few weeks ago I saw a few documentaries explaining Mormonism. Whew! It was complicated! Thank goodness I just found a condensed explanation for all of it:

I live in Mormon country and my first wife was a "Jack Mormon." She drank like hell but still believed in her cult even if she didn't participate in its ceremonies. The only benefit to living around them is that they are generally conservative, politically.

 

[GLASNOST]

I live in Mormon country and my first wife was a "Jack Mormon." She drank like hell but still believed in her cult even if she didn't participate in its ceremonies. ....

Let both of us (you and I) be happy she's no longer your wife. Did you make a clean break or does she still have a hook left in you?

 

[SaxonJackson]

Let both of us (you and I) be happy she's no longer your wife. Did you make a clean break or does she still have a hook left in you?

Yup. Clean break. Married in 1980. Separated off and on for the next 7 years. Divorced finalized in 1987. Haven't heard from her since.

 

[DennisPTate]

Just a few weeks ago I saw a few documentaries explaining Mormonism. Whew! It was complicated! Thank goodness I just found a condensed explanation for all of it:

I watched the film....
it is pretty good and quite funny....
but I have been mentored by about fourteen Latter day Saint
Elders since 2018, [and Sisters by video during Covid 19], and I found them to be among the most astonishingly well informed Christians that I have ever met when it comes to the rather complicated topic of the State of the Dead.

I can't say for certain that Latter day Saints are totally
correct about all that they teach about the afterlife but
I have to admit that I do hope that they are extremely close
to the full truth on this critical topic.

Latter day Saint Elders and Sisters can go through the Book of Mormon and point to spiritual experiences that reminded them, [and me], of modern near death experience accounts. I highly recommend talking to Mormon Missionaries if you want to learn more about the State of the Dead.

I have a specific topic that you might want to begin with?

[Robert Marshall ] :

"
Question:

Will our Pets be in Heaven?

I am happy to say absolutely! Yes!
Those who read the book “44 HOURS IN HEAVEN” already know the answer and why I am so sure. For those who have not had the chance to read the book, I am excited to share how and why my answer is yes.

On May 19th, 2024, I died 3 times and went to Heaven each time I died. When I died the 2nd time, I went to Heaven instantly. Just like the first time I went to Heaven, I experienced the love and peace, the beauty, the smells in the air, and the feelings of being connected to everything and everyone and they were a welcoming familiarity of coming home.

Unlike the first time, I was standing at the edge of a beautiful field of tall grass that had the same beautiful trees scattered throughout. Looking to my left, in the far distance, I saw the inner courtyard and my dad was still there, but this time, my mom was there.

I looked around, still in amazement at how beautiful everything was, how magnificent and bright the colors were, how warm and loving the light, sounds, and smells that filled the air were, and how peaceful and calm it was.

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It was at this time I was treated to a surprise. Our pets that we love are in heaven!

Two horses and three dogs greeted me. The horses were Carol’s and mine; their names are Shakush and Nugget.

Shakush is a pure white Arabian who has the personality of a playful clown. He would get in the arena without Carol on his back and jump and play with her like a playful dog would do, except he was a horse and much larger, but just as gentle. Carol raised and trained Shakush herself and was the only person who rode him. Carol was and still is an excellent horseperson and rider. She glides when riding, and it is a thing of beauty to watch. When Carol and Shakush were both younger, she would show him at horse shows, and they often finished in the top 3. When Carol would ride him, he was always a perfect gentleman, and they would ride for hours in the arena and open fields. While running uphill on a trail he would buck, tossing his head in absolute joy. Regardless of the hill, the gait, or his mood, Carol could always brace herself for a joyful exuberant buck.

Nugget is a buckskin quarter horse and absolutely beautiful. She did not have the same personality as Shakush, but rather, she always acted very regal and gentle. Carol would ride Nugget, and on a rare occasion, she would share Nugget with me for a trail ride. Nugget was raised and trained by Carol just like Shakush. Both Shakush and Nugget were magnificent horses and were truly a gift and blessing from God.

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Three dogs greeted me with our two horses. Two of the dogs that greeted me are named Fudge 1 and Fudge 2 because they are dark brown and sweet, just like Fudge. We named all of our dogs Fudge, so we don’t get their name wrong when a new pet joins our family. There was a third dog that approached me in Heaven with the others, but I did not recognize her. I later learned the dog was named Annie and was Carol’s dog before we met.

Fudge 1 was a rescue dog that was a sweet little dog that would run and play his game of catch me. Of course, it was only when he decided to let us catch him that we were able to. Then he would cuddle up like the sweet dog he was. It was his way of playing.

Fudge 2 was used as a bait dog prior to our rescuing him. He wanted to be sweet and loving but had some prior issues as a result of his abuse before he became part of our family. There were times he would snap or have a flashback. It took a long time and a lot of love before he would trust us. However, he eventually did, and he turned out to be a sweet little boy. He would jump around like a kangaroo. He was unbelievably quick and would spring around like a bouncing ball. He still had flashbacks occasionally, back to when he was abused and treated so meanly. When this happened, it was as if he recognized what happened and was sorry for snapping at us, that was when we got the most loving and cuddling from him. Our best efforts did not erase his abuse on earth. In heaven he’s no longer like that. He is a happy puppy running and playing.

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The third dog's name was Annie. I didn’t know the third dog's name until I was out of the hospital and was telling Carol about going to Heaven and our pets being there. It was when I described the dog I did not recognize that she said it was her dog, Annie. Carol had Annie before I even knew her. Mystery solved.

We currently have a dog, and of course, that is Fudge 3. He is a spitting image of Fudge 2, only sweeter.

So, when I say that our pets are in Heaven, it is not just a hopeful desire; it is an eyewitness account. I saw our horses and dogs, and they were as happy as they could be, waiting for us to come home."
[Robert Marshall]

44 Hours in Heaven audio | 44 Hours In Heaven

44 Hours In Heaven Audio Book

www.44hoursinheavenministries.org

and on the topic about how essentially all other church have gone "off track" you might want to listen to the following book by near death experiencer Robert Marshall at least five times, [I think I must have listened to this ten times], because what he writes is a brilliant correction to The Sardis Era of The Bride of Messiah, The Philadelphia Era of the Bride of Messiah as well as to The Laodicean Era of the Bride of Messiah as explained in Revelation chapter two and three.

My Walk With Jesus audio | 44 Hours In Heaven

www.44hoursinheavenministries.org

 

[GLASNOST]

..... Divorced finalized in 1987. Haven't heard from her since.

Excellent. No children?

 

[SaxonJackson]

Excellent. No children?

Thankfully ... no.

 

[DennisPTate]

Thankfully ... no.

Did you have any miscarriages?

If so then in the afterlife you will both meet those children.

I have two ex-wives so this topic is relevant to me.

When it comes to the afterlife Latter day Saints, although most of them are less than thirty years of age, they are some of the most articulate and well read Christians that I have ever had the privilege to debate and discuss theology, spirituality, near death experience accounts and even NDE accounts in the Book of Mormon with!

I do hope that the Latter day Saints....
as well as Roman Catholics with their ideas on Purgatory....
will turn out to have some of the most accurate teachings on the State of the Dead of any Christian churches in all of this world?

Paradise​

According to the prophet Alma, the righteous spirits rest from earthly care and sorrow. Nevertheless, they are occupied in doing the work of the Lord. President Joseph F. Smith saw in a vision that immediately after Jesus Christ was crucified, He visited the righteous in the spirit world. He appointed messengers, gave them power and authority, and commissioned them to “carry the light of the gospel to them that were in darkness, even to all the spirits of men” (D&C 138:30).

The Church is organized in the spirit world, and priesthood holders continue their responsibilities there (see D&C 138:30). President Wilford Woodruff taught: “The same Priesthood exists on the other side of the veil. … Every Apostle, every Seventy, every Elder, etc., who has died in the faith as soon as he passes to the other side of the veil, enters into the work of the ministry” (Deseret News, Jan. 25, 1882, 818).

Family relationships are also important. President Jedediah M. Grant, a counselor to Brigham Young, saw the spirit world and described to Heber C. Kimball the organization that exists there: “He said that the people he there saw were organized in family capacities. … He said, ‘When I looked at families, there was a deficiency in some, … for I saw families that would not be permitted to come and dwell together, because they had not honored their calling here’” (Deseret News, Dec. 10, 1856, 316–17).

Spirit Prison​

The Apostle Peter referred to the postmortal spirit world as a prison, which it is for some (see 1 Peter 3:18–20). In the spirit prison are the spirits of those who have not yet received the gospel of Jesus Christ. These spirits have agency and may be enticed by both good and evil. If they accept the gospel and the ordinances performed for them in the temples, they may leave the spirit prison and dwell in paradise.

Also in the spirit prison are those who rejected the gospel after it was preached to them either on earth or in the spirit prison. These spirits suffer in a condition known as hell. They have removed themselves from the mercy of Jesus Christ, who said, “Behold, I, God, have suffered these things for all, that they might not suffer if they would repent; but if they would not repent they must suffer even as I; which suffering caused myself, even God, the greatest of all, to tremble because of pain, and to bleed at every pore, and to suffer both body and spirit” (D&C 19:16–18). After suffering for their sins, they will be allowed, through the Atonement of Jesus Christ, to inherit the lowest degree of glory, which is the telestial kingdom.

• How are conditions in the spirit world similar to conditions in this life?

Additional Scriptures​

• 1 Peter 4:6 (gospel preached to the dead)
• Moses 7:37–39 (spirit prison prepared for the wicked)
• D&C 76 (revelation about the three kingdoms of glory)
• Luke 16:19–31 (fate of beggar and rich man in the spirit world)

Chapter 41: The Postmortal Spirit World

Chapter 41: The Postmortal Spirit World

www.churchofjesuschrist.org

I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT THE TEACHINGS THAT THE LATTER DAY SAINTS HAVE ON THE STATE OF THE DEAD IMPRESS ME AS BEING BRILLIANT AND AMONG THE MOST ACCURATE TEACHINGS ON THE STATE OF THE DEAD OF ANY LARGE CHRISTIAN CHURCH WITH MORE THAN A MILLION MEMBERS, [THAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND AND RESEARCH SO FAR IN MY SIXTY SIX YEARS!

I RATHER HOPE THAT THE LDS TEACHINGS ON THE AFTERLIFE TURN OUT TO BE LARGELY CORRECT!

 

[GLASNOST]

Thankfully ... no.

Thankfully, for sure!

 

[DennisPTate]

Thankfully, for sure!

Based on the near death experience of Ms. Ariela Solsol Periera I must beg to differ?

She had two or three of her children aborted, but she met them in "heaven" and they were so happy to see her and they so looked forward to the time when she would join them in heaven.

DIVINE TRUTHS REVEALED: A Glimpse Behind the Veil of th…
DIVINE TRUTHS REVEALED
by Ariela Solsol (Goodreads Author)

An account of an almost epic Judeo-Christian revelation. A face to face encounter with the King of Kings and the God of Israel with a profound message of extreme relevance to everyone alive today.

Our temporary lives will determine our eternal destinies. Our spiritual future will unfold in either one, of two extremely different, and opposing, kingdoms. We have the power to decide which of these two opposing levels of existence will be our 'forever' home.

In this unique, and encouraging, ecumenical account, we see that life is much more than chaotic randomness. There is an order and beauty in creation which reflects the awesome love of God for all of humanity. His forgiveness is a gift that is free for the taking. His mercy and compassion, for us, knows no bounds!...

.... [Ariela Solsol Periera]
"Life begins at conception. Once life is conceived, it is given an eternal soul. This eternal soul is just that... eternal. Under normal circumstances living out one's life on earth will determine the eternal destiny of our souls. It must either live forever in heaven with God in His kingdom or forever in hell with Satan in his kingdom. The children I wasnow observing before me were never given that chance. They left this world before they could ever make a choice.

"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations."( Jeremiah 1: 5)

These little children were now living in an eternal paradise, filled with gardens and bubbling brooks. Here they would be totally immersed in the joy and the presence of the Lord, forever!

To be in His presence... far surpasses anything we can attain on this earth! There was only one small detail lacking in this incredible place of joy and wonder. They were like little angels, who had come here, but not out of their own free will. They had never lived long enough, to exercise their God-given gift of free-will. They were as the angels, who also do not have free will. The angels do the will of the Father at all times. We, as human beings, are given free wills to exercise as we like. We make choices as to how we will live out our lives while here on earth. We are allowed to make choices each moment of our lives on earth." (Ariela Solsol)

"The sum of all life's choices will ultimately lead us to the realm of the Father or to the
realm of darkness forever. By the trials and tribulations that we endure here on earth, we
win eternal crowns for ourselves that will only become evident to us once we are there to
receive them. Yet these precious little children had never been given that chance. They
were never allowed to come to earth and win crowns for themselves the way that we are.
These children were snatched from their mother's wombs before they were ever given
this chance. This beautiful paradise contained all the souls of the aborted, still-born, or
children who died without ever knowing the difference between good and evil.

In this part of the Lord's revelation to me, there was a deep message of forgiveness.
Jesus allowed me to see my own little children who were in this marvelous place. They
were so happy to see me and I was crying tears of joy to be reunited with them again! I
knew that there would be a huge empty space in my life because of their absence. They
would have enriched and blessed my life if they had lived. I was the great loser. Abortion
is a sin against the child, but every bit as much a sin against the mother, also. We have no
way of knowing how this unborn child could have influenced our life, had it been
allowed to live." (Ariela Solsol Pereira, Divine Truths Revealed)