Any religion that spawns such a large “fringe” of evil doers must have something rotten at its core.

[turzovka]

There is something about Islam that is most disturbing. Their entire history has been one of conquering people and forced conversions. They have little evidence that God is on their side. No miracles, no magnanimous acts of kindness, no tolerance for others, and so on. In the last 100 years, long since the rest of the world has, by and large, become far more civilized and charitable to outsiders, Islam has been resistant to change. It remains barbaric in its ways from many centuries past. Worst of all, it has spawned a fringe element of violent zealots ready to subjugate or murder anyone who does not agree with their exact theology or rule of law. This “fringe element” is enormous in numbers. It has shown itself in over 50 countries how hostile, intolerant and violent it can be. Since 9/11/01 there have been more than 27,000 separate attacks across the globe where innocent people are murdered by attackers doing it in the name of Islam, or Muhammad, or the Koran. They act because they believe they are doing “Allah’s will.”

This is all being done right before our eyes every week. How does a man of this religion decide that Allah wants him to go into a market place and blow up 50 women and children and kill himself? How can he possibly think this will bring him glory in heaven? What makes his life so much more important to “god the creator” than all those innocent people he murdered? How can such an evil theology become so accepted by millions of radical Muslims and truly believed?

I believe it is because there is something intrinsically wrong with this religion that denies Christ and worships a false prophet. There are other pagan religions but they have not tried to destroy Judaism and Christianity like Islam has. As a result, I believe Islam has allowed a demonic element into many of its followers. The devil is real, the devil manipulates the hearts and minds of men. No religion can be of the one true God that has also spawned untold thousands, even millions, of adherents who approve of unprovoked evil mass murders in these modern times. There has to be something spiritually and intrinsically wrong with its core to create such an enormous fringe that is doing so much evil.

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Prophecy. In Genesis 16 our Lord foretells the unfolding. God has told Abraham he will have a son and become the father of a great nation (His chosen people) that will reveal God to the world and beget a Savior for all nations. But Abraham grows impatient that his aging wife Sara has not become pregnant for years so instead he chooses to have relations with his servant maid Hagar who begets a son. The Lord then says to Hagar:

“Behold, you are with child,
And you will bear a son;
And you shall call his name Ishmael,
Because the Lord has given heed to your affliction.
He will be a wild donkey of a man,
His hand will be against everyone,
And everyone’s hand will be against him;
And he will live to the east of all his brothers.”

 

[MaryL]

Religion doesn't like people that question it. But Islam? On top of the dogpile of intolerance. If you are the member of any group that is as intolerant or insular as Islam, perhaps it's time to reconsider. Gardening, raising chinchillas, smoking peyote. Something a little less intolerant and hateful.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

But, but, but, buuuuuuuuuttttttt The Crusades, Bush, and stuff !

 

[Snouter]

It is ironic to quote the jewish testament in defense of violent Islam when the fact is all Abrahamic religions are rotten to the core. Yahweh was basically a war baal that Moses adopted. Were the ancient tribes of Israel real? There is no evidence, but the zionists who think they descend from them essentially invented terrorism to get the British out of Palestine. Sure Islam is a horrible religion, but mankind must do away with all the Abrahamic religions if world peace is the objective. "Wild donkey."

 

[turzovka]

It is ironic to quote the jewish testament in defense of violent Islam when the fact is all Abrahamic religions are rotten to the core. Yahweh was basically a war baal that Moses adopted. Were the ancient tribes of Israel real? There is no evidence, but the zionists who think they descend from them essentially invented terrorism to get the British out of Palestine. Sure Islam is a horrible religion, but mankind must do away with all the Abrahamic religions if world peace is the objective. "Wild donkey."

Too much to disagree with here. Beyond just hyperbole, totally false statements. (imo)

God allowed you to be of free will and believe what you want.

 

[MaryL]

But, but, but, buuuuuuuuuttttttt The Crusades, Bush, and stuff !

Right. Islam sufferers from a mass delusion of victimhood. And between you and me: I don't care. Religion is all made up hoodoo bullshit anyway. And Islam is derived from modern religions like Judaism or Christianity, it is derivative and has a inferiority complex. Scary thing is these religious fascist actually believe THEY can get away with all the hate crimes and slaughter the innocents because they are on god's side. True evil incarnate.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Turzovka, I agree that Catholicism since Saul stoned Stephen (you know he did more than hold the coats) right through WWII, yeah, you guys have been bad, really bad.

 

[Unkotare]

But, but, but, buuuuuuuuuttttttt The Crusades, Bush, and stuff !

Right. Islam sufferers from a mass delusion of victimhood. ....

Did YOU just say "delusion of victimhood"? Really?

 

[turzovka]

Turzovka, I agree that Catholicism since Saul stoned Stephen (you know he did more than hold the coats) right through WWII, yeah, you guys have been bad, really bad.

I am not flustered by the voices and charges against the Church, nor by its past transgressions. Sinners can be found in every religion and movement and ideology. The Jews were great sinners, but their god IS G-d. Judas was among Jesus' chosen. The Catholic Church had corrupt popes, scheming bishops and sexual abusing clergy. But the Catholic Church also has had untold numbers of saints and heroic deeds and kindness beyond calculation. You choose to discount all that and not delve into its whole history, but the goodness this Church has brought to this world far, far outweighs its errors.

So then you must maintain if there is a God He has done nothing to communicate the truths to mankind or our purpose of existence to anyone on this planet. It's just a free for all and no one is to blame for anything. It makes no sense. Plus it flies in the face of Jesus Christ and and the billions of Christians who have done good, and all the signs and wonders that have validated this reality of God's presence.


But to please you at some level, here is what one Catholic said about the Church:

The church is always God hung between two thieves. Thus no one should be surprised or shocked at how badly the church has betrayed the gospel and how much it continues to do so today. It has never done very well. Conversely, however, nobody should deny the good the church has done either. It has carried grace, produced saints, morally challenged the planet, and made, however imperfectly, a house for God to dwell in on this earth.

To be connected with the church is to be associated with scoundrels, warmongers, fakes, child-molesters, murderers, adulterers and hypocrites of every description. It also, at the same time, identifies you with saints and the finest persons of heroic soul within every time, country, race and gender. To be a member of the church is to carry the mantle of both the worst sin and the finest heroism of soul….because the church always looks exactly as it looked at the original crucifixion, God hung among thieves.

— Ronald Rolheiser, The Holy Longing

 

[JakeStarkey]

"Sinners can be found in every religion and movement and ideology." And the rotten core of Catholicism still exists.

 

[Political Junky]

There is something about Islam that is most disturbing. Their entire history has been one of conquering people and forced conversions. They have little evidence that God is on their side. No miracles, no magnanimous acts of kindness, no tolerance for others, and so on. In the last 100 years, long since the rest of the world has, by and large, become far more civilized and charitable to outsiders, Islam has been resistant to change. It remains barbaric in its ways from many centuries past. Worst of all, it has spawned a fringe element of violent zealots ready to subjugate or murder anyone who does not agree with their exact theology or rule of law. This “fringe element” is enormous in numbers. It has shown itself in over 50 countries how hostile, intolerant and violent it can be. Since 9/11/01 there have been more than 27,000 separate attacks across the globe where innocent people are murdered by attackers doing it in the name of Islam, or Muhammad, or the Koran. They act because they believe they are doing “Allah’s will.”

This is all being done right before our eyes every week. How does a man of this religion decide that Allah wants him to go into a market place and blow up 50 women and children and kill himself? How can he possibly think this will bring him glory in heaven? What makes his life so much more important to “god the creator” than all those innocent people he murdered? How can such an evil theology become so accepted by millions of radical Muslims and truly believed?

I believe it is because there is something intrinsically wrong with this religion that denies Christ and worships a false prophet. There are other pagan religions but they have not tried to destroy Judaism and Christianity like Islam has. As a result, I believe Islam has allowed a demonic element into many of its followers. The devil is real, the devil manipulates the hearts and minds of men. No religion can be of the one true God that has also spawned untold thousands, even millions, of adherents who approve of unprovoked evil mass murders in these modern times. There has to be something spiritually and intrinsically wrong with its core to create such an enormous fringe that is doing so much evil.

..................................................................................

Prophecy. In Genesis 16 our Lord foretells the unfolding. God has told Abraham he will have a son and become the father of a great nation (His chosen people) that will reveal God to the world and beget a Savior for all nations. But Abraham grows impatient that his aging wife Sara has not become pregnant for years so instead he chooses to have relations with his servant maid Hagar who begets a son. The Lord then says to Hagar:

“Behold, you are with child,
And you will bear a son;
And you shall call his name Ishmael,
Because the Lord has given heed to your affliction.
He will be a wild donkey of a man,
His hand will be against everyone,
And everyone’s hand will be against him;
And he will live to the east of all his brothers.”

Have you read anything about the history of the Catholic Church? The instruments of torture?

 

[MaryL]

But, but, but, buuuuuuuuuttttttt The Crusades, Bush, and stuff !

Right. Islam sufferers from a mass delusion of victimhood. ....

Did YOU just say "delusion of victimhood"? Really?

Did you just quote me? And here you are protecting imaginary victims . No dumb button here, you feel emasculated a tad?

 

[Unkotare]

But, but, but, buuuuuuuuuttttttt The Crusades, Bush, and stuff !

Right. Islam sufferers from a mass delusion of victimhood. ....

Did YOU just say "delusion of victimhood"? Really?

Did you just quote me? And here you are protecting imaginary victims . No dumb button here, you feel emasculated a tad?

From the queen of imaginary victim hood.

 

[turzovka]

Have you read anything about the history of the Catholic Church? The instruments of torture?

Yes, and far more than you.

I have tried to give a brief explanation why if you or whoever focuses on some aspect of its past and ignore the enormous good and charity and the mystical, then you will feel comforted by your belief the Catholic Church is false. But it is a false comfort.

You want me to try to defend the Church in a few paragraphs? I will respond with the words of Thomas More >> "Tis a shorter thing and sooner done to write heresies than to answer them."

 

[MaryL]

But, but, but, buuuuuuuuuttttttt The Crusades, Bush, and stuff !

Right. Islam sufferers from a mass delusion of victimhood. ....

Did YOU just say "delusion of victimhood"? Really?

Did you just quote me? And here you are protecting imaginary victims . No dumb button here, you feel emasculated a tad?

From the queen of imaginary victim hood.

So says the king of butt hurt.

 

[MaryL]

Unko, I have seen your outrage over the Japanese journalist being beheaded, so, please lay off your troll farming here, for once lay off the games. Get real.

 

[Jackson]

"Sinners can be found in every religion and movement and ideology." And the rotten core of Catholicism still exists.

Islam takes the heads off people...mow down the innocents in the streets. Obama is most likely pleased at the mayhem. He has called for it and now it is happening.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

There is something about Islam that is most disturbing. Their entire history has been one of conquering people and forced conversions. They have little evidence that God is on their side. No miracles, no magnanimous acts of kindness, no tolerance for others, and so on. In the last 100 years, long since the rest of the world has, by and large, become far more civilized and charitable to outsiders, Islam has been resistant to change. It remains barbaric in its ways from many centuries past. Worst of all, it has spawned a fringe element of violent zealots ready to subjugate or murder anyone who does not agree with their exact theology or rule of law. This “fringe element” is enormous in numbers. It has shown itself in over 50 countries how hostile, intolerant and violent it can be. Since 9/11/01 there have been more than 27,000 separate attacks across the globe where innocent people are murdered by attackers doing it in the name of Islam, or Muhammad, or the Koran. They act because they believe they are doing “Allah’s will.”

This is all being done right before our eyes every week. How does a man of this religion decide that Allah wants him to go into a market place and blow up 50 women and children and kill himself? How can he possibly think this will bring him glory in heaven? What makes his life so much more important to “god the creator” than all those innocent people he murdered? How can such an evil theology become so accepted by millions of radical Muslims and truly believed?

I believe it is because there is something intrinsically wrong with this religion that denies Christ and worships a false prophet. There are other pagan religions but they have not tried to destroy Judaism and Christianity like Islam has. As a result, I believe Islam has allowed a demonic element into many of its followers. The devil is real, the devil manipulates the hearts and minds of men. No religion can be of the one true God that has also spawned untold thousands, even millions, of adherents who approve of unprovoked evil mass murders in these modern times. There has to be something spiritually and intrinsically wrong with its core to create such an enormous fringe that is doing so much evil.

..................................................................................

Prophecy. In Genesis 16 our Lord foretells the unfolding. God has told Abraham he will have a son and become the father of a great nation (His chosen people) that will reveal God to the world and beget a Savior for all nations. But Abraham grows impatient that his aging wife Sara has not become pregnant for years so instead he chooses to have relations with his servant maid Hagar who begets a son. The Lord then says to Hagar:

“Behold, you are with child,
And you will bear a son;
And you shall call his name Ishmael,
Because the Lord has given heed to your affliction.
He will be a wild donkey of a man,
His hand will be against everyone,
And everyone’s hand will be against him;
And he will live to the east of all his brothers.”

I definitely agree with the first part, but the Biblical correlation, while popular, is ultimately wrong. Everything about Islam is a lie, without exception. Muhammed (piss be upon him) sought to gain legitimacy by laying claims to be descended from Ismael 7 centuries after the tribes of Israel were scattered and there was no institution by which to establish or refute such a claim. His "evidence" was sketchy at best because, although much of Canaan derived from the lineage of Ismael, they did not record genealogies like the Hebrews did and their peoples were intermingled , dispersed, and conquered and unlike the Jews, never maintained a singular ethnic identity even when in a vanquished state.

So no, I don't even give them that. Islam is an evil religion inspired by Satan that began in the 7th century and has been spreading misery, death, and oppression ever since.

Satan is a liar.

 

[MaryL]

We people that are against Muslims, we don't chop off heads, we don't put them in cages and drown them, we don't advocate violence. We see them for the ideologues and haters they ARE and want that ended. F*ck Allah, he knows were I live.

 

[JakeStarkey]

There is something about Islam that is most disturbing. Their entire history has been one of conquering people and forced conversions. They have little evidence that God is on their side. No miracles, no magnanimous acts of kindness, no tolerance for others, and so on. In the last 100 years, long since the rest of the world has, by and large, become far more civilized and charitable to outsiders, Islam has been resistant to change. It remains barbaric in its ways from many centuries past. Worst of all, it has spawned a fringe element of violent zealots ready to subjugate or murder anyone who does not agree with their exact theology or rule of law. This “fringe element” is enormous in numbers. It has shown itself in over 50 countries how hostile, intolerant and violent it can be. Since 9/11/01 there have been more than 27,000 separate attacks across the globe where innocent people are murdered by attackers doing it in the name of Islam, or Muhammad, or the Koran. They act because they believe they are doing “Allah’s will.”

This is all being done right before our eyes every week. How does a man of this religion decide that Allah wants him to go into a market place and blow up 50 women and children and kill himself? How can he possibly think this will bring him glory in heaven? What makes his life so much more important to “god the creator” than all those innocent people he murdered? How can such an evil theology become so accepted by millions of radical Muslims and truly believed?

I believe it is because there is something intrinsically wrong with this religion that denies Christ and worships a false prophet. There are other pagan religions but they have not tried to destroy Judaism and Christianity like Islam has. As a result, I believe Islam has allowed a demonic element into many of its followers. The devil is real, the devil manipulates the hearts and minds of men. No religion can be of the one true God that has also spawned untold thousands, even millions, of adherents who approve of unprovoked evil mass murders in these modern times. There has to be something spiritually and intrinsically wrong with its core to create such an enormous fringe that is doing so much evil.

..................................................................................

Prophecy. In Genesis 16 our Lord foretells the unfolding. God has told Abraham he will have a son and become the father of a great nation (His chosen people) that will reveal God to the world and beget a Savior for all nations. But Abraham grows impatient that his aging wife Sara has not become pregnant for years so instead he chooses to have relations with his servant maid Hagar who begets a son. The Lord then says to Hagar:

“Behold, you are with child,
And you will bear a son;
And you shall call his name Ishmael,
Because the Lord has given heed to your affliction.
He will be a wild donkey of a man,
His hand will be against everyone,
And everyone’s hand will be against him;
And he will live to the east of all his brothers.”

I definitely agree with the first part, but the Biblical correlation, while popular, is ultimately wrong. Everything about Islam is a lie, without exception. Muhammed (piss be upon him) sought to gain legitimacy by laying claims to be descended from Ismael 7 centuries after the tribes of Israel were scattered and there was no institution by which to establish or refute such a claim. His "evidence" was sketchy at best because, although much of Canaan derived from the lineage of Ismael, they did not record genealogies like the Hebrews did and their peoples were intermingled , dispersed, and conquered and unlike the Jews, never maintained a singular ethnic identity even when in a vanquished state.

So no, I don't even give them that. Islam is an evil religion inspired by Satan that began in the 7th century and has been spreading misery, death, and oppression ever since.

Satan is a liar.

Since you lie at the drop of a hate, then we know who is your God, stmike.

Catholicism is rotten at the core. I think Islam is as well. We would do better with both of them, along with Pentecostalism, gone.