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[1srelluc]

Really? Blaise Pascal would disagree. His wager was based on the fact that the benefit of faith in God was so great that even if there were no God the benefit of believing in God outweighed the benefit of not believing in God such that the smart move would be to believe in God.

And then there's Darwin, whose principle of natural selection is based upon functional advantage. If belief in God offered no functional advantage, then according to Darwin religion would have died out long ago.

Religion.....How is it for stains?

 

[hobelim]

The Sacrifice of Jesus was never after the fact. Christ was slain from the foundation of the world. Scripture is clear.

Scripture is also very clear that those who perjure themselves in the name of my God are fucked. Like you.

You prove it with every religiously addled post.

 

[Quantrill]

Your argument is after the fact. So, you really dont have an argument. My OP remains undefeated.

No, Jesus was slain from the foundation of the world. (Rev. 13:8)

Jesus was slain in Gods plan long before the fall of man.

Quantrill

 

[ding]

Religion.....How is it for stains?

Don't know. I was talking about God.

 

[Hafar1014]

They did die. You just don't believe the Bible. God never asked Adam to confess anything. He told Adam how things now have changed.

The Jews who wrote the New Testament knew Hebrew and Greek.

Again, believe whatever you like. The Bible is against you.

Quantrill

I can read Hebrew and as Jew understand Jewish allegories. The orthodox Rabbis who study the Torah dont agree with your interpretation. Its my bible not yours

 

[Quantrill]

I can read Hebrew and as Jew understand Jewish allegories. The orthodox Rabbis who study the Torah dont agree with your interpretation. Its my bible not yours

Big deal. As I said, the Jews who wrote the New Testament could write Hebrew and Greek.

Orthodox Jews today don't believe their Bible, the Old Testament. Why should I care for their interpretation? The Jews have always rejected their God. Which is why they are where they are today. Scattered throughout the world in judgement from God.

Which is why they, though they are back in the land, can't even go up and build their temple. They are still under the heel of the Gentiles.

What a group. You boast you are a Jew, fine. You are of your fathers who killed the prophets, and killed your Messiah Jesus Christ.

Understanding the Hebrew language didn't stop the Jews from doing that...did it?

Quantrill

 

[TheInfiniteSadness]

Jews were persecuted by Christians for the next 3000 years

Not quite right. They were persecuted by Christians only for 2000 years. Before that it was non-christians. The Christians persecuted them because they believed the Jews murdered Jesus among other complaints.

 

[TNHarley]

The Sacrifice of Jesus was never after the fact. Christ was slain from the foundation of the world. Scripture is clear.

Quantrill

Is that why you cant quote it?

 

[Mr Natural]

No, Jesus was slain from the foundation of the world. (Rev. 13:8)

Jesus was slain in Gods plan long before the fall of man.

Quantrill

So God had a son for the sole purpose of sending Him to earth to be brutally slaughtered?

Nice guy!

 

[TNHarley]

No, Jesus was slain from the foundation of the world. (Rev. 13:8)

Jesus was slain in Gods plan long before the fall of man.

Quantrill

So you say. Weird thing is, the bible doesnt

 

[hobelim]

They did die.

Yes, they died in the very same day they defied the clear command of God, according to the fairy tale that is.

Just like you died many decades ago in the very day you first set aside the command of my God and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a trinity that became an edible Jewish man, a mangod, who, according to the maudlin BS story, was a perfect "human sacrifice" (WTF) so that numbskulls like you can remain assholes without any shame, oblivious, and sin with impunity for life as long as you have the "faith" to remain a false person for the rest of your days on earth until you die the second death, the death of your physical body, and, after the second death, you actually expect to have many presents waiting for you somewhere in Hebbin.

Fool.

YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY.

Death and Hell, the realm of the dead, were the damned say things like "I piss on your god. I shit on your god."

In agony.

Enjoy!

 

[ding]

So God had a son for the sole purpose of sending Him to earth to be brutally slaughtered?

Nice guy!

Actually, Jesus said he was born into this world to testify to the truth.

Let me give you a little advice... when you meet your maker, don't argue that you didn't seek him out because he was such a meanie for creating an unfair world. Because his answer will be that he already paid that debt.

Some people don't realize what they had until they lose it. I think you may be one of those people.

 

[Mr Natural]

Actually, Jesus said he was born into this world to testify to the truth.

Let me give you a little advice... when you meet your maker, don't argue that you didn't seek him out because he was such a meanie for creating an unfair world. Because his answer will be that he already paid that debt.

Some people don't realize what they had until they lose it. I think you may be one of those people.

When you’re dead, you’re dead.

Lights out. Game over.

 

[ding]

Yes, they died in the very same day they defied the clear command of God, according to the fairy tale that is.

Just like you died many decades ago in the very day you first set aside the command of my God and got down on your knees in the deranged adoration of a trinity that became an edible Jewish man, a mangod, who, according to the maudlin BS story, was a perfect "human sacrifice" (WTF) so that numbskulls like you can remain assholes without any shame, oblivious, and sin with impunity for life as long as you have the "faith" to remain a false person for the rest of your days on earth until you die the second death, the death of your physical body, and, after the second death, you actually expect to have many presents waiting for you somewhere in Hebbin.

Fool.

YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY.

Death and Hell, the realm of the dead, were the damned say things like "I piss on your god. I shit on your god."

In agony.

Enjoy!

Spoken like a religious nutjob.

 

[ding]

When you’re dead, you’re dead.

Lights out. Game over.

You are a spiritual being experiencing a material existence. But just so you know, it's not about the destination. It's about the journey. And at any point along that journey, you are the sum of your choices.

 

[TNHarley]

Jesus said he was born into this world to testify to the truth.

that was allegory

 

[ding]

that was allegory

I don't believe so.

It must really get your goat when I destroy your ridiculous OT arguments.

 

[TNHarley]

I don't believe so.

It must really get your goat when I destroy your ridiculous OT arguments.

How convenient!
You dont. You just think you do. Narcissism does that to people.

 

[ding]

How convenient!
You dont. You just think you do. Narcissism does that to people.

The accounts are what the accounts are. That you read the flood account literally - when it is clearly not - is on you. Especially since you know how ridiculous it is to read that account literally. You are just upset because I am ruining your gaslighting fun.

 

[Hafar1014]

When you’re dead, you’re dead.

Lights out. Game over.

No there is an afterlife