Zone1 Allegory man, this thread is for you!!

so do you worship Moses or his God?
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By Joseph Shulam-

I would have difficulty believing in the truthfulness of the story of Yeshua (Jesus) if He were not mentioned anywhere in Jewish literature. What if a fantastic story like the story of Yeshua (from his birth to his resurrection from the dead to his ascension to heaven) were not mentioned anywhere else except in the texts of what is commonly called “The New Testament”? A person like Yeshua was a stone of contention, an Archimedes point, a pivotal point of human history, and a controversial personality. He was King of the Jews, as it was written on a plaque on top of the cross of His crucifixion.

We are fortunate that we have a vast store of literature from the Pharisees of Yeshua’s day. They collected and preserved the discussions and controversies of the time. Most Christians are not educated in the literature of the Pharisees. This literature is divided into three different forms. The first is the Mishnah, a collection of Rabbinical sources and quotations from Rabbis who lived in the 2nd century BC until the middle of the 2nd century CE. The second is the Jerusalem Talmud, a collection of similar discussions from the 5th century CE. The third is the Babylonian Talmud, which was finished in the 6th century CE and dealt with material similar to that of the Jerusalem Talmud.

We are fortunate that Josephus Flavius, the Jewish historian of the first century, mentions Yeshua in his books. We are also fortunate that we have the Midrashic literature, a collection of various homiletic material and quasi-commentaries of the Torah. These commentaries include those of Rabbis from before the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem, through to medieval Rabbinical commentators. Understand that most of the material that was written in this Rabbinical literature was written against Yeshua and His disciples. However, what was written against is also a witness to what was real and important for the Jews in the diaspora, who were opponents of Yeshua and his disciples. Often, these Rabbis referred to Yeshua in order to oppose Him, but by opposing Him, they affirmed Him. What was intended to negate Yeshua turns out to affirm the positive. The Jewish rabbinical opponents of Jesus and his disciples did not write about Him for several centuries after His death, burial, and resurrection. But, when they began to discuss Yeshua, Rabbis attributed stories to Him that affirm the historical Yeshua. The story's origins date back to the 2nd century B.C. The records of this material written against Yeshua by the Pharisaic Rabbis are preserved in the rabbinical materials in the Mishnah, Midrashic Literature, and in both the Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud.

In this article, I will attempt to capture the most interesting stories about Jesus in Rabbinical literature and try to make lemonade from the rotten lemons grown in rabbinical gardens in the dark valleys of religious prejudice, hate, and ignorance. What was meant for evil will turn out to be for good!

https://netivyah.org/yeshua-in-the-talmud/
 
The man who found it (Jesus) BURIED IT AGAIN.

certainly not ...

the tragedy of the crucifixion is the crucifiers blatant attempt to bury what jesus brought to the lite of day ...

including the repudiation of judaism - false commandments, hereditary idolatry, religion of apartheid, heavenly personifications that never occurred, et al.
 
So why didn't the Israelites worship Moses as God even though they witnessed the miracles he performed?

Take your time......
Because he didn’t perform any.
 
Because he didn’t perform any.
:auiqs.jpg:C'mon ding. You are so full of shit it is coming out of your eyes, ears, and mouth. Can't you smell that smell?


Moses's staff turned into a serpent, which then ate the staffs of the Egyptian magicians.

Moses struck the Nile River with his staff, and the water turned to blood, killing the fish.

A series of plagues were brought upon Egypt, including frogs, lice, gnats, flies, and a pestilence on livestock.

During Exodus, Moses provided manna from heaven and miraculously drew water from a rock for the Israelites.

God told Moses to stretch out his hand, and the Red Sea parted, allowing the Israelites to cross on dry land.

God made Moses's hand leprous, like snow, and then restored it to health as another sign to Pharaoh.
 
:auiqs.jpg:C'mon ding. You are so full of shit it is coming out of your eyes, ears, and mouth. Can't you smell that smell?


Moses's staff turned into a serpent, which then ate the staffs of the Egyptian magicians.

Moses struck the Nile River with his staff, and the water turned to blood, killing the fish.

A series of plagues were brought upon Egypt, including frogs, lice, gnats, flies, and a pestilence on livestock.

During Exodus, Moses provided manna from heaven and miraculously drew water from a rock for the Israelites.

God told Moses to stretch out his hand, and the Red Sea parted, allowing the Israelites to cross on dry land.

God made Moses's hand leprous, like snow, and then restored it to health as another sign to Pharaoh.
Embellishment to make the account more memorable and easier to pass down.
 
By Joseph Shulam-

I would have difficulty believing in the truthfulness of the story of Yeshua (Jesus) if He were not mentioned anywhere in Jewish literature. What if a fantastic story like the story of Yeshua (from his birth to his resurrection from the dead to his ascension to heaven) were not mentioned anywhere else except in the texts of what is commonly called “The New Testament”? A person like Yeshua was a stone of contention, an Archimedes point, a pivotal point of human history, and a controversial personality. He was King of the Jews, as it was written on a plaque on top of the cross of His crucifixion.

We are fortunate that we have a vast store of literature from the Pharisees of Yeshua’s day. They collected and preserved the discussions and controversies of the time. Most Christians are not educated in the literature of the Pharisees. This literature is divided into three different forms. The first is the Mishnah, a collection of Rabbinical sources and quotations from Rabbis who lived in the 2nd century BC until the middle of the 2nd century CE. The second is the Jerusalem Talmud, a collection of similar discussions from the 5th century CE. The third is the Babylonian Talmud, which was finished in the 6th century CE and dealt with material similar to that of the Jerusalem Talmud.

We are fortunate that Josephus Flavius, the Jewish historian of the first century, mentions Yeshua in his books. We are also fortunate that we have the Midrashic literature, a collection of various homiletic material and quasi-commentaries of the Torah. These commentaries include those of Rabbis from before the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem, through to medieval Rabbinical commentators. Understand that most of the material that was written in this Rabbinical literature was written against Yeshua and His disciples. However, what was written against is also a witness to what was real and important for the Jews in the diaspora, who were opponents of Yeshua and his disciples. Often, these Rabbis referred to Yeshua in order to oppose Him, but by opposing Him, they affirmed Him. What was intended to negate Yeshua turns out to affirm the positive. The Jewish rabbinical opponents of Jesus and his disciples did not write about Him for several centuries after His death, burial, and resurrection. But, when they began to discuss Yeshua, Rabbis attributed stories to Him that affirm the historical Yeshua. The story's origins date back to the 2nd century B.C. The records of this material written against Yeshua by the Pharisaic Rabbis are preserved in the rabbinical materials in the Mishnah, Midrashic Literature, and in both the Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud.

In this article, I will attempt to capture the most interesting stories about Jesus in Rabbinical literature and try to make lemonade from the rotten lemons grown in rabbinical gardens in the dark valleys of religious prejudice, hate, and ignorance. What was meant for evil will turn out to be for good!

Yeshua in the Talmud | Netivyah
wth are you talking about?
Yeshu is NOT mentioned in Josephus, which is odd due to the fact Josephus was distantly related to Yeshu of 100bc.
Jesus is mentioned in LATER EDITIONS AFTER CONSTANTINES ERA but out of sequence as if placed in. So technically neither Yeshu nor his new partial image renamed Jesus are mentioned in GENUINE JOSEPHUS WRITINGS.
 
Embellishment to make the account more memorable and easier to pass down.
Don't you realize that every time a person was healed after hearing Jesus teach he said "Your faith has made you whole".

"Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father." John 14:12

If you are a believer, and if the miracles of Jesus were literally supernatural demonstrations of Divine power over reality, then when have you or any believer performed any of the miracles that Jesus did, or even greater ones as Jesus said believers would do?
 
wth are you talking about?
Yeshu is NOT mentioned in Josephus, which is odd due to the fact Josephus was distantly related to Yeshu of 100bc.
Jesus is mentioned in LATER EDITIONS AFTER CONSTANTINES ERA but out of sequence as if placed in. So technically neither Yeshu nor his new partial image renamed Jesus are mentioned in GENUINE JOSEPHUS WRITINGS.
 
Don't you realize that every time a person was healed after hearing Jesus teach he said "Your faith has made you whole".


"Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father." John 14:12

If you are a believer, and if the miracles of Jesus were literally supernatural demonstrations of Divine power over reality, then when have you or any believer performed any of the miracles that Jesus did, or even greater ones as Jesus said believers would do?
And yet Jesus was worshipped as God because they witnessed the miracles he performed.
 

The term "Apostolic Age" refers to the first generation of Christianity, roughly from 30 AD to 100 AD, during which the original apostles of Jesus lived and spread their teachings. The church began in this era. It is the period in which the early Christian church began as an offshoot of Judaism before becoming a separate religion and spreading throughout the Roman Empire.
 
The term "Apostolic Age" refers to the first generation of Christianity, roughly from 30 AD to 100 AD, during which the original apostles of Jesus lived and spread their teachings. The church began in this era. It is the period in which the early Christian church began as an offshoot of Judaism before becoming a separate religion and spreading throughout the Roman Empire.
that makes no sense. The original apostles were adults when Jesus died
 
15th post
God laid accountability on him.
No God gave Adam a chance to reject Him but Adam passed the test. The whole point is mans autonomy thats why its called the trial for mans freedom. Christians dont understand it and call it the fall of man
 
that makes no sense. The original apostles were adults when Jesus died
The Apostolic Age lasted for approximately 70 years, from the founding of the Christian Church around 30 AD to the death of the Apostle John around 100 AD. This period is named for the Apostles of Jesus Christ, who lived, preached, and established the foundations of the Christian Church during these formative decades.

Key Dates and Events

  • Beginning (30 AD):The Apostolic Age is traditionally considered to have begun with the founding of the Christian Church at Pentecost.
  • Key Figures:The age is associated with the Apostles, the immediate followers of Jesus Christ, and the first generation of Christians.
  • End (c. 100 AD):The period concludes with the death of the Apostle John, who is considered the last surviving direct witness to Jesus' ministry.
  • Significance:This era is pivotal for its role in establishing Christianity as a distinct faith and laying the groundwork for the New Testament, with most of its books being written during this time.
 
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