Zone1 Allegory man, this thread is for you!!

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Hyrcanus and Mark Antony in this sequence are at minimum a half century before The supposed birth of Jesus who they had to push back to 6bc just to fit King Herod who died in 4bc.
Lysanias the Tetrarch mentioned at the time of this image called Jesus also lived a half century before, and died 35bc, as he had lived in the Antony era. Josephus only writes that Herod killed the thieves, this is interesting because those thieves might have been the tax revolters group lead by Yehuda the Galilean Christ used for the portion of Jesus mythology, which would get confused and compiled with the Jannaeus persecutions and still match the story going after Yehuda (now part of the Jesus myth), but just not as a child, but as a leader of thugs who robbed and burnt down houses of the payers of the Roman taxes. Yehuda died in 6bc and lived in the time of Lysanias, Antony and King Herod.
(Per Josephus)
Luke mentions him once, in
Acts 5:37, and Josephus several times, once here, sect. 6; and B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2; Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1; and ch. 17. sect. 8, calls this Judas, who was the pestilent author of that seditious doctrine and temper which brought the Jewish nation to utter destruction, a Galilean; but here (sect. 1) Josephus calls him a Gaulonite, of the city of Gamala; it is a great question where this Judas was born, whether in Galilee on the west side, or in Gaulonitis on the east side, of the river Jordan; while, in the place just now cited out of the Antiquities, B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2, he is not only called a Galilean, but it is added to his story, "as I have signified in the books that go before these," as if he had still called him a Galilean in those Antiquities before, as well as in that particular place, as Dean Aldrich observes, Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1

That’s nice.

 

[Seymour Flops]

So, you believe in a God that never performs miracles?

Why is God himself not an allegory then?

As for not understanding something, I'm good with that as I know enough to know I don't understand most things and never will along with the rest of humanity. But I realize it drives some plum nutty like yourself.

A much more well-put version of what I was just about to post.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I see no indication in any of the writings in the Bible about the miracles that they are supposed to be allegorical or symbolic in any way.

If there is a God, then every single miracle in the bible is completely possible.

If there is no God, then the stories in the Bible are a little more than oral traditions, myths and legends passed on to a culture that became very literate and wrote them down.

Claims and explanations by folks who believe in the bible but claim it is allegory are attempts to fit religion in with the beliefs of the world.

That is definitely not uncommon. Bible believers have adjusted, for example, the meaning of working on Sunday and have added exceptions to that proscription. Not because the bible changed, but because the world changed in ways that make honoring the Sabbath more difficult.

I grew up Baptist, and their phrase for that was "being in the world" or "being too much in the world."

Not judging, just analyzing.

 

[hobelim]

I see no indication in any of the writings in the Bible about the miracles that they are supposed to be allegorical or symbolic in any way.

Thats a shame. You are missing out on the greatest story never told.

 

[BreezeWood]

So, still no source except your own imagination.

their claim of heavenly personification that never existed and perpetuated by those bibles negates all three desert religions from any heavenly association. as proven throughout history the true path is readily found when done so with purpose and honesty.

- provide the etched tablets you claim, their content or remove the forgeries and judaism from your bible ...

 

[BreezeWood]

If there is no God, then the stories in the Bible are a little more than oral traditions, myths and legends passed on to a culture that became very literate and wrote them down.

there is the heavens, where all are equal and is responsible for the creation of life and its maintenance -

to be discovered when the fallacies of the desert bibles are rejected as occurred in the 1st century and the motivation of the religious itinerant they murdered and have done the same to others throughout the centuries keeping for themselves what has never been theirs they have taken.

 

[ding]

- provide the etched tablets you claim, their content or remove the forgeries and judaism from your bible ...

You believe Adam and Eve were right to disobey God, right? That obeying God makes them subservient to God, right?

Is that because you believe you are equal to God?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Thats a shame. You are missing out on the greatest story never told.

Are you kidding?

It is not a great story if it is factual rather than allegorical fiction?

 

[Woodznutz]

- provide the etched tablets you claim, their content or remove the forgeries and judaism from your bible ...

No thanks.

 

[BreezeWood]

You believe Adam and Eve were right to disobey God, right?

remind yourself what you believe than making false accusations against other people.

 

[BreezeWood]

No thanks.

- provide the etched tablets you claim, their content or remove the forgeries and judaism from your bible ...

let the people know, who you are deceiving the reason for your reluctance ...

 

[BreezeWood]

yes, all in the heavens are equals ... referred to as monotheism.

- not a monarchy used by desert dwellers to create servitude and denial for most while strangely worshiping their antagonist.

 

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remind yourself what you believe than making false accusations against other people.

I asked a question. One you did not answer.

Do you believe you are equal to God?

 

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remind yourself what you believe than making false accusations against other people.

Here is what you said about Adam and Eve:

a&e choosing self determination instead of servitude

How should one interpret this?

 

[BreezeWood]

Here is what you said about Adam and Eve:

How should one interpret this?

you have a short, self serving memory.

 

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you have a short, self serving memory.

You have bizarre beliefs like a&e choosing self determination instead of servitude and all are equal in heaven.

 

[hobelim]

Are you kidding?

It is not a great story if it is factual rather than allegorical fiction?

Let me put it this way. One must decipher the allegories, metaphors, homonyms, hyperbole, etc. to know what actually happened which has been lost to time ever since the truth was buried and hidden in figurative language.

Until now.

The miracles are impossible to be literally true. If its not factual then it's the greatest story that never happened. The kingdom of heaven is like hidden treasure buried in a field. The man who found it (Jesus) BURIED IT AGAIN.

After all the crazy talk about giving sight to the blind, healing the paralyzed, raising the dead, etc, Jesus said;

"Till now I have been using figures of speech."

The only question is, can you dig it?

 

[ding]

Let me put it this way. One must decipher the allegories, metaphors, homonyms, hyperbole, etc. to know what actually happened which has been lost to time ever since the truth was buried and hidden in figurative language.

Until now.

The miracles are impossible to be literally true. If its not factual then it's the greatest story that never happened. The kingdom of heaven is like hidden treasure buried in a field. The man who found it (Jesus) BURIED IT AGAIN.

After all the crazy talk about giving sight to the blind, healing the paralyzed, raising the dead, etc, Jesus said;

"Till now I have been using figures of speech."

The only question is, can you dig it?

And yet Jesus was worshipped as God because they witnessed the miracles he performed.

 

[HaShev]

And yet Jesus was worshipped as God because they witnessed the miracles he performed.

so do you worship Moses or his God?

 

[hobelim]

And yet Jesus was worshipped as God because they witnessed the miracles he performed.

So why didn't the Israelites worship Moses as God even though they witnessed the miracles he performed?

Take your time......