A Devil's Mathematical problem.

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The historical data for the problem is Here.

The Problem: Population of France in 1780 is 28 million. Gross product is equivalent to 5 billion livers (currency) per year. An average person needs 2,000 livers per year for comfortable life. The State needs 1 billion livers per year for defense, administration, and growth of Arts and Sciences. What is the best way to divide the gross product?

Devil's solution: In pre-Industrial Society, resources could be obtained only by expropriation. The solution is in Table 3. Ensure comfortable lifestyle for 540 thousand Nobles, and somewhat lower living standards for about 2.16 million Bourgeois and their family. Expropriate labor of over 15 million agricultural laborers, small farmers, and their families. These people will live in abject poverty, but they will provide wealth for Nobles, Bourgeois, and the State. This income will enable growth of Arts and Sciences and produce masterpieces of architecture.

Beyond devil: French Serfs had to rent land and pay high rates, but they were not slaves. This form of exploitation can be justified by Devil's Advocate.

In Russia and East Europe, serfs were personally bound to their owners and also subject to physical abuse. That was cruelty beyond necessity. In America, slaves were also owned and cruelty was the norm. American Slaves had work obligations 2.5 times as high as Russian Serfs. That was evil.
 
The historical data for the problem is Here.

The Problem: Population of France in 1780 is 28 million. Gross product is equivalent to 5 billion livers (currency) per year. An average person needs 2,000 livers per year for comfortable life. The State needs 1 billion livers per year for defense, administration, and growth of Arts and Sciences. What is the best way to divide the gross product?

Devil's solution: (Table 3) Ensure comfortable lifestyle for 540 thousand Nobles, and somewhat lower living standards for about 2.16 million Bourgeois and their family. Expropriate labor of over 15 million agricultural laborers, small farmers, and their families. These people will live in abject poverty, but they will provide wealth for Nobles, Bourgeois, and the State. This income will enable growth of Arts and Sciences and produce masterpieces of architecture.

Beyond devil: French Serfs had to rent land and pay high rates, but they were not slaves. This form of exploitation can be justified by Devil's Advocate.

In Russia and East Europe, serfs were personally bound to their owners and also subject to physical abuse. That was cruelty beyond necessity. In America, slaves were also owned and cruelty was the norm. American Slaves had work obligations 2.5 times as high as Russian Serfs. That was evil.
And starting in the 70's they received social assistance and did nothing with it except having husbands abandoning wives and screwing as many women as possible thinking they would conquer the vote problem.
They were right.
 
And starting in the 70's they received social assistance and did nothing with it except having husbands abandoning wives and screwing as many women as possible thinking they would conquer the vote problem.
They were right.
Racial discrimination against African Americans is still alive and well. It is worse then prejudice toward Jews in Russia.
 
The historical data for the problem is Here.

The Problem: Population of France in 1780 is 28 million. Gross product is equivalent to 5 billion livers (currency) per year. An average person needs 2,000 livers per year for comfortable life. The State needs 1 billion livers per year for defense, administration, and growth of Arts and Sciences. What is the best way to divide the gross product?

Devil's solution: In pre-Industrial Society, resources could be obtained only by expropriation. The solution is in Table 3. Ensure comfortable lifestyle for 540 thousand Nobles, and somewhat lower living standards for about 2.16 million Bourgeois and their family. Expropriate labor of over 15 million agricultural laborers, small farmers, and their families. These people will live in abject poverty, but they will provide wealth for Nobles, Bourgeois, and the State. This income will enable growth of Arts and Sciences and produce masterpieces of architecture.

Beyond devil: French Serfs had to rent land and pay high rates, but they were not slaves. This form of exploitation can be justified by Devil's Advocate.

In Russia and East Europe, serfs were personally bound to their owners and also subject to physical abuse. That was cruelty beyond necessity. In America, slaves were also owned and cruelty was the norm. American Slaves had work obligations 2.5 times as high as Russian Serfs. That was evil.
Is this in defense of the Jacobins or something?

In Russia Serfs were subject to physical abuse?
--Bolsheviks as an alternative then?

In America "cruelty was the norm"

---how do you know?
--Do you have any idea how expensive it is to purchase, feed, and clothe a human being?
--Do you have any idea how frail a human is compared to livestock?
--Only an idiot slavemaster would be unduly cruel to his chattel.

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In Russia Serfs were subject to physical abuse?
--Bolsheviks as an alternative then?
No! Serfs were freed in 1861. In 1917, Bolsheviks built an Egalitarian Society and redistributed the wealth. I am proud of my great-grandparents and Leon Trotsky.

Sadly, in 1930s, Stalin established a Totalitarian system.
 
No! Serfs were freed in 1861. In 1917, Bolsheviks built an Egalitarian Society and redistributed the wealth. I am proud of my great-grandparents and Leon Trotsky.

Sadly, in 1930s, Stalin established a Totalitarian system.

You more than anyone should know that socialism is to HIV what communism is to full-blown AIDS. Vladimir Lenin himself once stated “The goal of socialism is communism."
 
You more than anyone should know that socialism is to HIV what communism is to full-blown AIDS. Vladimir Lenin himself once stated “The goal of socialism is communism."
Leon Trotsky worked to build a society which gave people Positive Rights -- Food, Shelter, and Medical Care. Sadly Joseph Stalin established Totalitarianism.

Joseph Stalin had great faults and great virtues. Thank G-d, USSR defeated the Nazis.
 
Leon Trotsky worked to build a society which gave people Positive Rights -- Food, Shelter, and Medical Care. Sadly Joseph Stalin established Totalitarianism.

Joseph Stalin had great faults and great virtues. Thank G-d, USSR defeated the Nazis.

You faker! True commies don't thank God.
 

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