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Good grief.
I vote for another room. The loony theory room. Or maybe just the Loon Bog.
Actually, you would be the one discussing that. I have a little more faith in my own intelligence and my ability to distinguish reality from fantasy.
Given that you're expecting me to answer questions regarding a position I havent taken and then try to use those answers against me to suppoirt one of YOUR assertions -- there's absolutely no need for rme to say a thing.
You cannot defend your point on its own, you know it, and you're creating straw men to try to save yourself.. That says all that needs to be said.
Just remember:
Your claim of the existence of a Grand Conspiracy is just as sound as my claim of the existence of Santa Claus.
Why is it that the terrorists arent stealing gasoline tankers and driving them into elementary schools?
Is it because they're too stupid to think of it, or because we're doing a great job of stopping them?
Joel S. Hirschhorn, BS Metallurgical Engineering, MS Metallurgical Engineering, PhD Materials Engineering – Senior Staff Member, Congressional Office of Technology Assessment 1978 - 1990. Testified more than 50 times before Congress on technology, science, and environmental issues. Former Director of Environment, Energy and Natural Resources, National Governors Association. Dr. Hirschhorn has been a consultant to industrial and chemical companies, DOE laboratories, state governments, and public interest organizations. Professor of Metallurgical Engineering, University of Wisconsin, Madison 1965 - 1978. Co-founder of Friends of the Article V Convention at www.foavc.org. Member, Board of Directors, National Foundation for Environmental Education. Member, Board of Directors, Sustainability Now! Author of more than 150 papers, articles, guest editorials, and book chapters on environmental science and technology. Author of Delusional Democracy: Fixing the Republic Without Overthrowing the Government (2007), Sprawl Kills (2005), New Community Design to the Rescue (2001), Growing pains: Quality of Life in the New Economy (2000), Prosperity without Pollution (1991), Materials Science (1975), Introduction to Powder Metallurgy (1969).
Essay Painful 9/11 Truth 9/4/07: "Many technical analyses cast doubt on the official explanation of the collapse of three World Trade Center buildings, including those presented by an impressive new group: Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. More difficult than discovering the truth, however, is convincing most of the public to accept the bitter truth. ...
When it comes to 9/11, we face the strong belief that only al-Qaeda caused 9/11. But analyses by many experts reveal the collapse of the three WTC buildings was not caused by the two airplanes exploding into the twin towers. Without getting into details that one can spend many hours examining on a number of websites, the general view is that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition.
If correct, the immediate reaction is like a cosmic big bang. It would have taken considerable effort by a number of people with expertise and access to the buildings to rig them so that they could be intentionally collapsed when the two jets hit the towers. Tough questions flood in: Who could have engineered all this? Could foreign agents accomplish such complex actions - and if they did, why not take credit for it? If Americans did it, why would they intentionally inflict inevitable mass death and devastation? Worse, they seemingly knew about the plan to fly the jets into the towers.
Post-9/11, why have the government and official investigations not come to the same controlled demolition conclusion? This makes sense if the government was involved. ...
Like other groups, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth wants a new, honest and comprehensive study that considers all the evidence for controlled demolition. As a former engineering professor with growing skepticism about the official WTC story I share their concerns. First, let the technical truth emerge. Then, if necessary, cope with the inevitable political, conspiracy and other questions. But let us not allow a possible painful truth block the primary task of determining once and for all what caused the collapse of the WTC towers and building no. 7. ...
If those that believe the official 9/11 story - especially elected officials - trust their views, then let them support a serious effort to test the validity of the controlled demolition hypothesis. If they fear and reject doing so, then let us see that as suspicious and unacceptable.
To sum up, horrific possible answers can cause us to shun a question. But clearing our minds of the fear of painful truths is essential to clearing our nation of destructive lies. Otherwise, we stay stuck in a delusional democracy." http://blogcritics.org
Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 200 Architects and Engineers:
"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." http://www.ae911truth.org/joinus.php
Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories, and was not hit by an airplane. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse
ya buts allebabas say youse a loony ha ha ha...so ther yer just like that fat lezzy girl rosie ha ha yuk yuk
Er..yeah. And we all just imagined the planes flying into the towers...or better yet, they were digital planes superimposed to photos of the controlled demolition.
What a load of crap.
Just more evidence that a high iq does not preclude people from being absolutely, irretrievably nuts.
But I don't think anyone is targetting the US. As I said, if someone wanted to they could do it easily and the FBI and CIA wouldn't be able to stop them.
Why would any terrorist group now attack America? Anyway, no terrorist group nor any other country would be capable of doing so.
A bit contradictory there in your response, Diuretic? So what is it? They can do it any time they want? Or they--nor any other country--are capable of pulling it off?
What strategic purpose would be served by another terrorist attack?
Guess you didn't get the memo. Here's the crux of it: Death to America, the Great Satan.
Do you have proof that the government of Iran knowingly, officially aids the insurgency in Iraq?
Then apparently you don't understand the laws of physics.Within reason, that is.
It is loony to assume that just because something is "official" it's a lie.
And I haven't seen any evidence that laws of physics were broken. Not once Rosie went off the air, that is.
Been waiting for you to do that for a while.M14 Shooter, let's get down to mother fucking business here, huh? What do you say?
I would tend to agree with 1.In my opinion:
(1) We are in fact doing a good job of stopping them, thanks to good old fashioned espionage, and
(2) It's not the sort of target or the sort of method that a terrorist organization that would sustainably operate in this country would go for. It's more the sort of thing a loner would do, and our psychopathic loners aren't "terrorists" and prefer shooting sprees.
I would tend to agree with 1.
And while what you posted before regarding 2 was well thought out, I would add this:
If you want to truly terrorize the Amercian people, you go after our kids.
Our kids are -absolutely- vulnerable when they are in school.
Any organization that can pull off 9/11, et al, can arrange to steal trucks and drive them into a school, with a minimum of communications, planning, funding, etc.
You do this just once, and the US will shut down -- parents will yank their kids from school and stay home.
