Can we heal the divide?

[IM2]

Dummy, where should a NY prosecutor prosecute violations of NY law that took place in NY?

Kansas maybe?

I live in Kansas and these idiots might just let trump walk if the trial was held here.

 

[AntonToo]

its a sham trial and you know it ... and you don't care .

No I don't know that. Grand Jury that recommended Trump's indictement didn't know that either.

What I know is that Trump commited criminal fraud when he paid off his fuck dolls to keep quiet during campaign and tried to conceal it as bussiness expenses. His lawyer already served jail time for it, why the hell shouldn't Trump (co-conspirator #1) who directed him?

Either way, your talking point that this indictment should've happened somewhere else and not NY is pure nonsense.

 

[Redfish]

The problem is the media bubbles... News Media has commercialised in the US so bad they are just confirmation bias...

You see the difference in the Ireland and UK News which doesn't do the pundits stuff to same level...

US news looks like tribal warfare in comparison...

You can't have work on the division with both sides receiving different information.

The problem you have is that as soon as anyone reads something they don't like, there is accusations of bias (which very much exists) rather that reading the article and look at the evidence backing the story...

The US media used to just give us the facts, they no longer do that and that is destroying this great nation.

 

[Redfish]

I live in Kansas and these idiots might just let trump walk if the trial was held here.

There was no crime, federal of state, paying for an NDA is not illegal in any jurisdiction. In Kansas he might get a fair trial from an unbiased judge and jury, that will not happen in NY. The NY prosecutor has been unable to define the crime yet. this is a kangaroo court run by liberal trump-hating so-called lawyers.

 

[Redfish]

No I don't know that. Grand Jury that recommended Trump's indictement didn't know that either.

What I know is that Trump commited criminal fraud when he paid off his fuck dolls to keep quiet during campaign and tried to conceal it as bussiness expenses. His lawyer already served jail time for it, why the hell shouldn't Trump (co-conspirator #1) who directed him?

Either way, your talking point that this indictment should've happened somewhere else and not NY is pure nonsense.

Paying for an NDA Is not illegal in any jurisdiction, state or federal. There was no crime, but the crooked dems have managed to keep him off the campaign trail for over a week so far----------which is their goal since they know that senile joe cannot win any fair open election.

 

[AntonToo]

Paying for an NDA Is not illegal in any jurisdiction, state or federal. There was no crime, but the crooked dems have managed to keep him off the campaign trail for over a week so far----------which is their goal since they know that senile joe cannot win any fair open election.

Where did I say that NDAs are themselves illegal?

It’s illegal to lie in financial records (fraud) and it’s criminal to do so in violation of election laws.

Trump clearly did both, which is why Grand Jury indicted him.

 

[gipper]

A good old-fashioned shunning is the primary way. Make it clear to the MAGAs that they're not welcome in decent society.

Yeah that will unite us!!! Yippee!!!

 

[eagle1462010]

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/16/politics/settlements-congress-sexual-harassment/index.html

ALL CONGRESS WHI USED THIS FUND SHOULD BE TRIED FOR HUSH FUND MONEY.

 

[Redfish]

Where did I say that NDAs are themselves illegal?

It’s illegal to lie in financial records (fraud) and it’s criminal to do so in violation of election laws.

Trump clearly did both, which is why Grand Jury indicted him.

the NDA was paid out of personal funds, not election funds, that has been clearly proven. NO one lied about any of it. the crooked DA cannot even define the alleged crime in court. the grand jury was made up of trump-hating liberals who were nothing but the tools of the crooked DA. What's funny is that each of these fake crime allegations makes Trump's support stronger, the american people see through this bullshit.

 

[AntonToo]

the NDA was paid out of personal funds, not election funds

NDA was paid by Cohen.

Trump then repaid Cohen with Trump Co. paychecks and his company recorded it as bussiness expenses, thereby lying and concealing their personal nature.

Neither was appropriately reported as a campaign contribution.

 

[AntonToo]

NO one lied about any of it. the crooked DA cannot even define the alleged crime in court. the grand jury was made up of trump-hating liberals who were nothing but the tools of the crooked DA. What's funny is that each of these fake crime allegations makes Trump's support stronger, the american people see through this bullshit.

Stupid nutbag nonsense.

Crime is well defined in the indictment. Read it.

 

[leftwinger]

NDA was paid by Cohen.

Trump then repaid Cohen with Trump Co. paychecks and his company recorded it as bussiness expenses, thereby lying and concealing their personal nature.

Neither was appropriately reported as a campaign contribution.

CEO Trump does not “keep the books”. Sounds more like an accounting issue if any issue? Go after the bookkeeper for the error? If any exists?

Alert the IRS or the NY state Tax franchise. Not worthy of $100s million costs to collect a fine for late payment. Plain & Simple Political harrassment in the first degree.

 

[leftwinger]

Stupid nutbag nonsense.

Crime is well defined in the indictment. Read it.

DJT relinquished Company control in 2016 to his son. The check is from 2017? How was that to defraud the people in 2016? Nothing makes any sense?

 

[leftwinger]

Here are reasons why the indictment is totally false – no crimes exist.

1. The indictment is BS for many reasons but one of the major reasons surrounds the timing of the activities claimed to be crimes in the indictment.

The activities for which President Trump is charged all occurred after President Trump handed his multi-billion dollar organization over to the control of his sons.

President Trump was not running his companies at the time of these events. He had handed over control of these operations to his sons.

 

[leftwinger]

7. No auditor in 2022 would go back to 2017 and locate $100,000 in entries in a billion-dollar business.

Auditors rely on prior years’ work in the current year. I have never heard of an auditor going back five years when performing an audit. Never. There simply is not enough time. And again, if they did, any issues identified at worst would be posted as adjusting entries. These are not crimes.

 

[Mac1958]

Stupid nutbag nonsense.

Crime is well defined in the indictment. Read it.

They don't read the indictments. They just call it all lies. Keeps it simple.

And, if any more trials happen, they'll call the testimony of Trump's attorneys, staffers and employees lies. And they'll call the audio, video, text, email and documentary evidence lies.

Keeps it simple.

 

[leftwinger]

8. It is likely that no one in history has ever been charged with a felony for receiving an invoice from a vendor.

The “felonies” listed in Bragg’s case are related to 11 payments allegedly made to crooked Michael Cohen – 11 invoices, 12 vouchers, 11 checks or wires.

Invoices are received from vendors – not made by anyone in the Trump organization – Trump has no control over the receipt of invoices. Charging President Trump with a felony for receiving an invoice is like charging any American a felony for receiving a letter in the mail.


hey Anthony you POS, you suck a lot of crank EH?

 

[Father O'Blivion]

Serious question: our nation is so divided right now that nothing positive is getting done. We, the citizens, are suffering like never before and our media has become the propaganda arm or one side or the other.

Can our nation survive this or is the only solution some sort of revolution or secession making us into two distinct countries?

comments welcome.

LOL. The poster makes a thread with the title "Can we heal the divide?"

Then posts this:

suffering = open borders, out of control inflation, world at war, all because of the stupid acts of senile joe. There is no reason for our nation to decline into third world misery, the socialist dems have caused this mess, remove them from power and the country returns to normal.

I love this place.

 

[leftwinger]

Second, a daughter presiding over a business that raises tens of millions of dollars for political candidates and campaigns, and stands to – with very good reason – earn a windfall if her father happens to prosecute and convict the man poised to be her firm’s client’s political opponent in the upcoming presidential race, would, I conjecture, qualify as an example (if not textbook example) of “more than a de minimis interest in the case.” Ditto too is Judge Merchan’s wife, Lara Merchan, if the reports alleging an employment connection, as special assistant to Letitia James, between her and Letitia James’ office prove true, given how much James’ political career rests on “getting” President Trump, which she irrefutably made the central issue of her statewide race for Attorney General, and short-lived race for Governor

Article 78 can be used as an appeal up front apparently?

 

[leftwinger]

Judge Merchan’s own wife allegedly works for Attorney General Letitia James’ office, who campaigned on “getting” President Trump and whose office put strong political pressures on both Merchan and Bragg to prosecute the 45th President in this criminal trial – to say nothing of presiding over President Trump’s concurrent civil cases taking place in New York State. Furthermore, reputable sources have reported that Loren Merchan’s firm profited, to the tune of at least $93 million, off the political persecution of Donald Trump happening in lower Manhattan

the scum wont ever admit how wrong they are. Like a serial killer, they are incapable of any morality whatsoever.