Thread for Zionists who Deny the Existence of the Palestinian Christians and Muslims

[P F Tinmore]

The irony, of course, is that the denial of the existence of the Jewish people is at LEAST as common on the anti-Israel side.

Both sides need to recognize each other.

Totally agree, this has been a never ending cycle.
But the fact is, the conversation here is unbalanced from the beginning-
we have Jews/Israelis, Europeans and Americans who argue about Jews, Arabs and the Jewish/Palestinian homeland.

I think many Jews/Israelis (including me) would be really happy to find out that a significant part of the Palestinians are actually our closest brothers, in a way that they'd feel the real connection to their 'enemies'.

However, I don't see any change in the denial of Jewish rights or even ties to the land on the European side...seem the Europeans are more focused on the victimization of Palestinians and de-legitimization of the Jewish homeland.

This only supports the continuation of the centuries long bloodshed.

However, I don't see any change in the denial of Jewish rights

That's weird, Nobody I know in BDS denies the right of Jews to live on that land.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Europeans are focused on a peaceful solution. The solution can't be equitable as the Jews after the British supported colonization, are now a reality on the ground and the Palestinians have to accept that Jews now represent a substantial presence and they are going nowhere, however, the dynamic that Jews must rule over non-Jews is not a solution.

Maybe, maybe some Europeans are focused on peace, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt (putting aside their treatment of Jews).
But their judgment of the situation in ME is totally fogged by their projection of their own European values on ME people.

Why can't Arab Palestinians live in a Jewish homeland?
It actually brings them closer to their origins, language and culture.
If anything it's the Arabic culture and Islam that are the markers of their long occupation...not Hebrew, Arameic languages or the original Israelite names of ancient cities.

Why can't Arab Palestinians live in a Jewish homeland?

Good question.

 

[Shusha]

According to monte, because Arabs must not live under "Jew-rule". Because -- bad.

 

[montelatici]

Zzzzz...what a buffoon, nobody is denying the "existence" of Muslims or Christians, they were the same people who invaded the holy land of the Jews. And despite that, the Jews kept a presence and kept coming back to their religious, ancestral, and cultural holy land over the mellenia.

Actually it's you terrorist ass kissers that deny the presence and migration of Jews to Israel over the last two thousand years.

The Muslims and Christians are descendants of Jews and Samaritans that converted to Christianity after the establishment of Christianity as the state religion of Rome. Most of those Christians subsequently converted to Islam after the Muslims conquest.

 

[montelatici]

According to monte, because Arabs must not live under "Jew-rule". Because -- bad.

Non-Jews should not be forced to live under minority Jew rule. A secular democratic state is what is desirable, not a Jewish, Muslim or Christian state.

 

[Shusha]

According to monte, because Arabs must not live under "Jew-rule". Because -- bad.

Non-Jews should not be forced to live under minority Jew rule. A secular democratic state is what is desirable, not a Jewish, Muslim or Christian state.

Why not two secular democratic States -- one Jewish and one Arab Palestinian? Then neither has to live under the rule of the other. Which is, apparently, according to you -- bad.

 

[montelatici]

According to monte, because Arabs must not live under "Jew-rule". Because -- bad.

Non-Jews should not be forced to live under minority Jew rule. A secular democratic state is what is desirable, not a Jewish, Muslim or Christian state.

Why not two secular democratic States -- one Jewish and one Arab Palestinian? Then neither has to live under the rule of the other. Which is, apparently, according to you -- bad.

Because, as Ruddy has eloquently established, the Jews will not allow a sovereign non-Jewish state to be established.

 

[Hollie]

According to monte, because Arabs must not live under "Jew-rule". Because -- bad.

Non-Jews should not be forced to live under minority Jew rule. A secular democratic state is what is desirable, not a Jewish, Muslim or Christian state.

Why not two secular democratic States -- one Jewish and one Arab Palestinian? Then neither has to live under the rule of the other. Which is, apparently, according to you -- bad.

Because, as Ruddy has eloquently established, the Jews will not allow a sovereign non-Jewish state to be established.

You're really quite the propagandist. Arab-Islamics have virtually no history of secular, democratic rule. Drop one person / one vote into islamist fear societies - allow free access to the process for political parties, and we see with regularity that the pious Islamic terrorists sweep up the votes. Does Hamas in the West Bank ring any bells? How about the muslim brotherhood in Egypt?

Why do Islamics put in place these social misfits / despots? Because for 1,400 years, with only brief periods of anything different, they've been ruled by Islamic warlords, have no aversion to violent changes of government by armed groups of Islamic terrorists, and believe that theocratic Islamic totalitarianism is the way of the world. Not only will Islamics gladly submit to a theocratic state, but they'll positively rush out and make it happen.

 

[Indeependent]

According to monte, because Arabs must not live under "Jew-rule". Because -- bad.

Non-Jews should not be forced to live under minority Jew rule. A secular democratic state is what is desirable, not a Jewish, Muslim or Christian state.

Why not two secular democratic States -- one Jewish and one Arab Palestinian? Then neither has to live under the rule of the other. Which is, apparently, according to you -- bad.

Because, as Ruddy has eloquently established, the Jews will not allow a sovereign non-Jewish state to be established.

You're really quite the propagandist. Arab-Islamics have virtually no history of secular, democratic rule. Drop one person / one vote into islamist fear societies - allow free access to the process for political parties, and we see with regularity that the pious Islamic terrorists sweep up the votes. Does Hamas in the West Bank ring any bells? How about the muslim brotherhood in Egypt?

Why do Islamics put in place these social misfits / despots? Because for 1,400 years, with only brief periods of anything different, they've been ruled by Islamic warlords, have no aversion to violent changes of government by armed groups of Islamic terrorists, and believe that theocratic Islamic totalitarianism is the way of the world. Not only will Islamics gladly submit to a theocratic state, but they'll positively rush out and make it happen.

Shh....Monty doesn't want Muslims in Europe because they're violent but wants Israel to be overrun by them.

 

[rylah]

According to monte, because Arabs must not live under "Jew-rule". Because -- bad.

Non-Jews should not be forced to live under minority Jew rule. A secular democratic state is what is desirable, not a Jewish, Muslim or Christian state.

Why not two secular democratic States -- one Jewish and one Arab Palestinian? Then neither has to live under the rule of the other. Which is, apparently, according to you -- bad.

Because, as Ruddy has eloquently established, the Jews will not allow a sovereign non-Jewish state to be established.

You're really quite the propagandist. Arab-Islamics have virtually no history of secular, democratic rule. Drop one person / one vote into islamist fear societies - allow free access to the process for political parties, and we see with regularity that the pious Islamic terrorists sweep up the votes. Does Hamas in the West Bank ring any bells? How about the muslim brotherhood in Egypt?

Why do Islamics put in place these social misfits / despots? Because for 1,400 years, with only brief periods of anything different, they've been ruled by Islamic warlords, have no aversion to violent changes of government by armed groups of Islamic terrorists, and believe that theocratic Islamic totalitarianism is the way of the world. Not only will Islamics gladly submit to a theocratic state, but they'll positively rush out and make it happen.

Shh....Monty doesn't want Muslims in Europe because they're violent but wants Israel to be overrun by them.

There was one member on USMB who expressed the will to cleanse Palestine of all none Christians...guess who.

 

[Indeependent]

Non-Jews should not be forced to live under minority Jew rule. A secular democratic state is what is desirable, not a Jewish, Muslim or Christian state.

Why not two secular democratic States -- one Jewish and one Arab Palestinian? Then neither has to live under the rule of the other. Which is, apparently, according to you -- bad.

Because, as Ruddy has eloquently established, the Jews will not allow a sovereign non-Jewish state to be established.

You're really quite the propagandist. Arab-Islamics have virtually no history of secular, democratic rule. Drop one person / one vote into islamist fear societies - allow free access to the process for political parties, and we see with regularity that the pious Islamic terrorists sweep up the votes. Does Hamas in the West Bank ring any bells? How about the muslim brotherhood in Egypt?

Why do Islamics put in place these social misfits / despots? Because for 1,400 years, with only brief periods of anything different, they've been ruled by Islamic warlords, have no aversion to violent changes of government by armed groups of Islamic terrorists, and believe that theocratic Islamic totalitarianism is the way of the world. Not only will Islamics gladly submit to a theocratic state, but they'll positively rush out and make it happen.

Shh....Monty doesn't want Muslims in Europe because they're violent but wants Israel to be overrun by them.

There was one member on USMB who expressed the will to cleanse Palestine of all none Christians...guess who.

Monty is upset we rejected Geezus.

 

[montelatici]

Why not two secular democratic States -- one Jewish and one Arab Palestinian? Then neither has to live under the rule of the other. Which is, apparently, according to you -- bad.

Because, as Ruddy has eloquently established, the Jews will not allow a sovereign non-Jewish state to be established.

You're really quite the propagandist. Arab-Islamics have virtually no history of secular, democratic rule. Drop one person / one vote into islamist fear societies - allow free access to the process for political parties, and we see with regularity that the pious Islamic terrorists sweep up the votes. Does Hamas in the West Bank ring any bells? How about the muslim brotherhood in Egypt?

Why do Islamics put in place these social misfits / despots? Because for 1,400 years, with only brief periods of anything different, they've been ruled by Islamic warlords, have no aversion to violent changes of government by armed groups of Islamic terrorists, and believe that theocratic Islamic totalitarianism is the way of the world. Not only will Islamics gladly submit to a theocratic state, but they'll positively rush out and make it happen.

Shh....Monty doesn't want Muslims in Europe because they're violent but wants Israel to be overrun by them.

There was one member on USMB who expressed the will to cleanse Palestine of all none Christians...guess who.

Monty is upset we rejected Geezus.

I am not upset at all. The Christian Zionists who don't understand you people despise Jesus Christ may turn on you, though.

 

[Indeependent]

Because, as Ruddy has eloquently established, the Jews will not allow a sovereign non-Jewish state to be established.

You're really quite the propagandist. Arab-Islamics have virtually no history of secular, democratic rule. Drop one person / one vote into islamist fear societies - allow free access to the process for political parties, and we see with regularity that the pious Islamic terrorists sweep up the votes. Does Hamas in the West Bank ring any bells? How about the muslim brotherhood in Egypt?

Why do Islamics put in place these social misfits / despots? Because for 1,400 years, with only brief periods of anything different, they've been ruled by Islamic warlords, have no aversion to violent changes of government by armed groups of Islamic terrorists, and believe that theocratic Islamic totalitarianism is the way of the world. Not only will Islamics gladly submit to a theocratic state, but they'll positively rush out and make it happen.

Shh....Monty doesn't want Muslims in Europe because they're violent but wants Israel to be overrun by them.

There was one member on USMB who expressed the will to cleanse Palestine of all none Christians...guess who.

Monty is upset we rejected Geezus.

I am not upset at all. The Christian Zionists who don't understand you people despise Jesus Christ may turn on you, though.

I doubt that since the source for them supporting us is The Rapture, which is in the version of TNT that you reject.

 

[montelatici]

You're really quite the propagandist. Arab-Islamics have virtually no history of secular, democratic rule. Drop one person / one vote into islamist fear societies - allow free access to the process for political parties, and we see with regularity that the pious Islamic terrorists sweep up the votes. Does Hamas in the West Bank ring any bells? How about the muslim brotherhood in Egypt?

Why do Islamics put in place these social misfits / despots? Because for 1,400 years, with only brief periods of anything different, they've been ruled by Islamic warlords, have no aversion to violent changes of government by armed groups of Islamic terrorists, and believe that theocratic Islamic totalitarianism is the way of the world. Not only will Islamics gladly submit to a theocratic state, but they'll positively rush out and make it happen.

Shh....Monty doesn't want Muslims in Europe because they're violent but wants Israel to be overrun by them.

There was one member on USMB who expressed the will to cleanse Palestine of all none Christians...guess who.

Monty is upset we rejected Geezus.

I am not upset at all. The Christian Zionists who don't understand you people despise Jesus Christ may turn on you, though.

I doubt that since the source for them supporting us is The Rapture, which is in the version of TNT that you reject.

The Christian heretics that support you now will turn on you people. While we Catholics outnumber them considerably, they outnumber you considerably. You will lose.

 

[Indeependent]

Shh....Monty doesn't want Muslims in Europe because they're violent but wants Israel to be overrun by them.

There was one member on USMB who expressed the will to cleanse Palestine of all none Christians...guess who.

Monty is upset we rejected Geezus.

I am not upset at all. The Christian Zionists who don't understand you people despise Jesus Christ may turn on you, though.

I doubt that since the source for them supporting us is The Rapture, which is in the version of TNT that you reject.

The Christian heretics that support you now will turn on you people. While we Catholics outnumber them considerably, they outnumber you considerably. You will lose.

That whole .000001% of Catholics who still care about their religion will pounce all over those Protestants who actually believe in God.
Sorry, Monty, your logic fails you left and right.

 

[rylah]

Shh....Monty doesn't want Muslims in Europe because they're violent but wants Israel to be overrun by them.

There was one member on USMB who expressed the will to cleanse Palestine of all none Christians...guess who.

Monty is upset we rejected Geezus.

I am not upset at all. The Christian Zionists who don't understand you people despise Jesus Christ may turn on you, though.

I doubt that since the source for them supporting us is The Rapture, which is in the version of TNT that you reject.

The Christian heretics that support you now will turn on you people. While we Catholics outnumber them considerably, they outnumber you considerably. You will lose.

How do You imagine our loss, what will be the situation?

 

[rylah]

You're really quite the propagandist. Arab-Islamics have virtually no history of secular, democratic rule. Drop one person / one vote into islamist fear societies - allow free access to the process for political parties, and we see with regularity that the pious Islamic terrorists sweep up the votes. Does Hamas in the West Bank ring any bells? How about the muslim brotherhood in Egypt?

Why do Islamics put in place these social misfits / despots? Because for 1,400 years, with only brief periods of anything different, they've been ruled by Islamic warlords, have no aversion to violent changes of government by armed groups of Islamic terrorists, and believe that theocratic Islamic totalitarianism is the way of the world. Not only will Islamics gladly submit to a theocratic state, but they'll positively rush out and make it happen.

Shh....Monty doesn't want Muslims in Europe because they're violent but wants Israel to be overrun by them.

There was one member on USMB who expressed the will to cleanse Palestine of all none Christians...guess who.

Monty is upset we rejected Geezus.

I am not upset at all. The Christian Zionists who don't understand you people despise Jesus Christ may turn on you, though.

I doubt that since the source for them supporting us is The Rapture, which is in the version of TNT that you reject.

Pay attention ^^

כִּי-הִנֵּה אוֹיְבֶיךָ יֶהֱמָיוּן וּמְשַׂנְאֶיךָ נָשְׂאוּ רֹאשׁ:

 

[Shusha]

According to monte, because Arabs must not live under "Jew-rule". Because -- bad.

Non-Jews should not be forced to live under minority Jew rule. A secular democratic state is what is desirable, not a Jewish, Muslim or Christian state.

Why not two secular democratic States -- one Jewish and one Arab Palestinian? Then neither has to live under the rule of the other. Which is, apparently, according to you -- bad.

Because, as Ruddy has eloquently established, the Jews will not allow a sovereign non-Jewish state to be established.

Wait. No. Nanananana. Not going to let you back pedal away from that. You said, "Non-Jews should not be forced to live under Jew rule". There is no back pedaling to "Its perfectly fine for non-Jews to live under 'Jew rule' as long as Israel permits such a thing."

Own it. You said, and have said repeatedly, that non-Jews should not be forced to live under Jew-rule. So, why should Jews be forced to live under Arab rule?

Goose. Gander. Pot. Kettle. If you apply it to one, it is hypocrisy not to apply it to other.

 

[Roudy]

The Europeans are focused on a peaceful solution. The solution can't be equitable as the Jews after the British supported colonization, are now a reality on the ground and the Palestinians have to accept that Jews now represent a substantial presence and they are going nowhere, however, the dynamic that Jews must rule over non-Jews is not a solution.

Maybe, maybe some Europeans are focused on peace, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt (putting aside their treatment of Jews).
But their judgment of the situation in ME is totally fogged by their projection of their own European values on ME people.

Why can't Arab Palestinians live in a Jewish homeland?
It actually brings them closer to their origins, language and culture.
If anything it's the Arabic culture and Islam that are the markers of their long occupation...not Hebrew, Arameic languages or the original Israelite names of ancient cities.

Because they are Christians and Muslims that rejected Judaism long ago.

Hah? The Jewish land was invaded by Christians and Muslims. It was the Jews who rejected the invader's faith, moron.

 

[Roudy]

Zzzzz...what a buffoon, nobody is denying the "existence" of Muslims or Christians, they were the same people who invaded the holy land of the Jews. And despite that, the Jews kept a presence and kept coming back to their religious, ancestral, and cultural holy land over the mellenia.

Actually it's you terrorist ass kissers that deny the presence and migration of Jews to Israel over the last two thousand years.

The Muslims and Christians are descendants of Jews and Samaritans that converted to Christianity after the establishment of Christianity as the state religion of Rome. Most of those Christians subsequently converted to Islam after the Muslims conquest.

Which comical history book are you reading? The land was invaded by Muslims and Christians.