Thread for Zionists who Deny the Existence of the Palestinian Christians and Muslims

montelatici

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One of the key goals of Zionist propaganda is to make people believe that the Muslim and Christian people of Palestine did a not exist when the European Zionists began colonizing Palestine.

Initially, they tried to push the idea that Palestine was empty. This is the old "a land without a people for a people without a land" lie. This was such a successful propaganda campaign that most people in America actually believed that there were no people in Palestine when the Jews began colonizing Palestine. Most Europeans were not that easily brainwashed, and the Europeans were well aware of the presence of non-Jews. The Catholic and Greek Othrodox churches in Europe both had formal ties to the area and provided more clarity on the matter than the respective churches in the U.S., who were influenced by the powerful Jewish community here.

As more and more source documents became available this fantasy became untenable as all the British mandatory source documentation concluded that at the end of WW1 the Muslims and Christians outnumbered the Jews more than 11 to 1that. What to do?

The next Zionist gambit was to claim that the Muslims and Christians migrated to Palestine from surrounding territories. This propaganda ploy gained some traction but was ultimately debunked by virtually the same League of Nations Mandatory source documentation archived at the UN. That documentation concluded that both legal and illegal non-Jewish migration to Palestine was inconsequential and that migration to Palestine was overwhelmingly that of European colonists. The same source documentation clearly stated that the growth of the non-Jewish population was as a result of natural growth while the Jewish population grew as a result of migration. The Zionist claim that the non-Jews went to Palestine for work was comical when confronted with the fact that the British garrison in Egypt was far larger than the small garrison in Palestine and that the Suez Canal and other British infrastructure and operations employed several times the personnel that Palestine could employee. The irony of the Zionist propaganda is that non-Jewish Palestinians immigrated to Egypt for work and educational purposes. The non-Jews of Palestine were more likely to leave Palestine for work than go to Palestine.

With most of the Hasbara propaganda debunked the most recent ploy is to claim that while there may have been non-Jews around, they did not exist as Palestinians. Some go so far as to repeat a made up story that the Russians created the Palestinians in the 1960s.

When the Zionist propagandists are confronted with letters, from the same archives, from 1921 to the British Colonial Office from the Palestinians, calling themselves the People of Palestine they revert to the next ploy, there was no Palestine during the Ottoman Empire. This notwithstanding official Ottoman military maps showing "Filastin" as a locale/territory. Other than maps, there are other indicators. For example, why would there be a manual for Palestinean (sic) Arabic during Ottoman rule (1909) if there were no Palestinians during Ottoman rule?

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Full text of "Manual of Palestinean Arabic, for self-instruction"
 
Please make this a sticky. This will save the trolling of exactly what montelatici, just explained. They do it on every thread, regardless of the topic. This has been explained several times, but they continue as this easily verifiable information does not exist.

What was just posted is not even in dispute, but they will. Y'all watch...
 

"The Catholic and Greek Othrodox churches in Europe both had formal ties to the area and provided more clarity on the matter than the respective churches in the U.S., who were influenced by the powerful Jewish community here."

Let's not forget that the powerful Jewish lobby has nothing to do with Judaism. They stole that like they did Palestine. We had over 200 of our Rabbis at the UN prior to them giving Palestine to "the Jews" which was actually Rothschild and his zionist federation as shown in the Balfour declaration. Our Rabbis begged everyone that would listen to NOT do this! They knew what would happen. They knew that this could not possibly bode well for peace. We have a whole thread on this and in the 27 pages of that thread, you wont find anyone who thought this land theft would bode well for peace.

Did anyone really believe that the UN giving Palestine to extremist Jews would bode well for peace?

"...at the end of WW1 the Muslims and Christians outnumbered the Jews more than 11 to 1that. What to do?"

And this cannot be disputed, but with lies.

"With most of the Hasbara propaganda debunked the most recent ploy is to claim that while there may have been non-Jews around, they did not exist as Palestinians. Some go so far as to repeat a made up story that the Russians created the Palestinians in the 1960s."


I like their one about how Palestine is Arafat's conspiracy theory.
 
So, the us about the former invading / colonizing Islamists and Christians occupying your invented "country of Pal'istan".
 
The irony, of course, is that the denial of the existence of the Jewish people is at LEAST as common on the anti-Israel side.

Both sides need to recognize each other.
 
It's not surprising that The Monty has again cut and pasted his usual slogans and clichés wherein he rattles on with his Jooooo hating tirades.

It's also not surprising that The Monty ignores the very basic reality that Jews were encouraged to immigrate to the area he falsely believes to be his invented "country of Pal'istan" thereby making his silly "Joooo invasion" slogans just more noise.

It's not surprising that The Monty completely ignores history and is in denial about the true invaders / colonizers: Turks, Arabs-Moslems and European Roman invaders / Crusaders.

It seems The Monty is merely a cut and paste propagandist who has established an arbitrary timeline for his slogans and clichés as he cuts and pastes his sweaty, feverish Joooo tirades.
 
The irony, of course, is that the denial of the existence of the Jewish people is at LEAST as common on the anti-Israel side.

Both sides need to recognize each other.

Totally agree, this has been a never ending cycle.
But the fact is, the conversation here is unbalanced from the beginning-
we have Jews/Israelis, Europeans and Americans who argue about Jews, Arabs and the Jewish/Palestinian homeland.

I think many Jews/Israelis (including me) would be really happy to find out that a significant part of the Palestinians are actually our closest brothers, in a way that they'd feel the real connection to their 'enemies'.

However, I don't see any change in the denial of Jewish rights or even ties to the land on the European side...seem the Europeans are more focused on the victimization of Palestinians and de-legitimization of the Jewish homeland.

This only supports the continuation of the centuries long bloodshed.
 
The Europeans are focused on a peaceful solution. The solution can't be equitable as the Jews after the British supported colonization, are now a reality on the ground and the Palestinians have to accept that Jews now represent a substantial presence and they are going nowhere, however, the dynamic that Jews must rule over non-Jews is not a solution.
 
The Europeans are focused on a peaceful solution. The solution can't be equitable as the Jews after the British supported colonization, are now a reality on the ground and the Palestinians have to accept that Jews now represent a substantial presence and they are going nowhere, however, the dynamic that Jews must rule over non-Jews is not a solution.

Maybe, maybe some Europeans are focused on peace, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt (putting aside their treatment of Jews).
But their judgment of the situation in ME is totally fogged by their projection of their own European values on ME people.

Why can't Arab Palestinians live in a Jewish homeland?
It actually brings them closer to their origins, language and culture.
If anything it's the Arabic culture and Islam that are the markers of their long occupation...not Hebrew, Arameic languages or the original Israelite names of ancient cities.
 
Even the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem has more common traits to other Canaanite temples.
Why do they have to stick to this huge 'nipple' in the middle of Jerusalem, which is clearly foreign to their culture?
 
The Europeans are focused on a peaceful solution. The solution can't be equitable as the Jews after the British supported colonization, are now a reality on the ground and the Palestinians have to accept that Jews now represent a substantial presence and they are going nowhere, however, the dynamic that Jews must rule over non-Jews is not a solution.

Maybe, maybe some Europeans are focused on peace, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt (putting aside their treatment of Jews).
But their judgment of the situation in ME is totally fogged by their projection of their own European values on ME people.

Why can't Arab Palestinians live in a Jewish homeland?
It actually brings them closer to their origins, language and culture.
If anything it's the Arabic culture and Islam that are the markers of their long occupation...not Hebrew, Arameic languages or the original Israelite names of ancient cities.

Because they are Christians and Muslims that rejected Judaism long ago.
 
So they prefer foreign culture to their roots?

*I understand Christianity originated in the land, but it first came from the Jews. Today's Christianity is not very middle-eastern or simillar to what it was originally but more Roman-European.

Islam is too - the culture of occupiers.
 
The Zioturds like to say that Palestinians in 1929 attacked Jews in a Pogrom, but then say such a people never existed before the creation of Israel in 1948.
Keep up...no one has said it even once in this thread.

Maybe not in this thread, but what about other threads?

Roudy the Jewish imbecile has said such things like Palestinians had not existed, but some how targeted Jews in a Pogrom.... When I pressured him his response was that the Palestinians who attacked Jews in Hebron in 1929 were "Immigrants"

Keep in mind Roudy has said other ridiculously stupid things like Poles manned the Concentration Camps.
 
So they prefer foreign culture to their roots?

*I understand Christianity originated in the land, but it first came from the Jews. Today's Christianity is not very middle-eastern or simillar to what it was originally but more Roman-European.

Islam is too - the culture of occupiers.

European Jews are foreign to the Muslims and Christians of Palestine. Palestinian Christians are the first Christians, and they are Middle Eastern.
 
So they prefer foreign culture to their roots?

*I understand Christianity originated in the land, but it first came from the Jews. Today's Christianity is not very middle-eastern or simillar to what it was originally but more Roman-European.

Islam is too - the culture of occupiers.

European Jews are foreign to the Muslims and Christians of Palestine. Palestinian Christians are the first Christians, and they are Middle Eastern.

No, Jews are the closest to Palestinians than any other ME peoples.
And Jews are the first Christians.

Arab culture is more foreign to Palestine than Jewish culture, which has been meticulously preserved, unlike the original Philistinian culture which is long gone.

Arab Palestinians fight for the occupation culture (Arabian and Roman), while denying Jews who actually are the only keepers of the original Palestinian/Canaanite culture and language.

Arabic is foreign, Hebrew-Arameic is local.
 
It's not surprising that The Monty has again cut and pasted his usual slogans and clichés wherein he rattles on with his Jooooo hating tirades.

It's also not surprising that The Monty ignores the very basic reality that Jews were encouraged to immigrate to the area he falsely believes to be his invented "country of Pal'istan" thereby making his silly "Joooo invasion" slogans just more noise.

It's not surprising that The Monty completely ignores history and is in denial about the true invaders / colonizers: Turks, Arabs-Moslems and European Roman invaders / Crusaders.

It seems The Monty is merely a cut and paste propagandist who has established an arbitrary timeline for his slogans and clichés as he cuts and pastes his sweaty, feverish Joooo tirades.
It's not surprising that hollie has again cut and pasted her usual slogans and clichés wherein she rattles on with his Moooooslim hating tirades.

It's also not surprising that hollie ignores the very basic reality that Jews were encouraged to immigrate to the area she falsely believes to be an invented country thereby making her silly "mooooslim invasion" slogans just more noise.

It's not surprising that hollie completely ignores history and is in denial about the true invaders / colonizers: European "Jews."

It seems hollie is merely a cut and paste propagandist who has established an arbitrary timeline for her slogans and clichés as she cuts and pastes her sweaty, feverish Moooooslim tirades.
 
It's not surprising that The Monty has again cut and pasted his usual slogans and clichés wherein he rattles on with his Jooooo hating tirades.

It's also not surprising that The Monty ignores the very basic reality that Jews were encouraged to immigrate to the area he falsely believes to be his invented "country of Pal'istan" thereby making his silly "Joooo invasion" slogans just more noise.

It's not surprising that The Monty completely ignores history and is in denial about the true invaders / colonizers: Turks, Arabs-Moslems and European Roman invaders / Crusaders.

It seems The Monty is merely a cut and paste propagandist who has established an arbitrary timeline for his slogans and clichés as he cuts and pastes his sweaty, feverish Joooo tirades.
It's not surprising that hollie has again cut and pasted her usual slogans and clichés wherein she rattles on with his Moooooslim hating tirades.

It's also not surprising that hollie ignores the very basic reality that Jews were encouraged to immigrate to the area she falsely believes to be an invented country thereby making her silly "mooooslim invasion" slogans just more noise.

It's not surprising that hollie completely ignores history and is in denial about the true invaders / colonizers: European "Jews."

It seems hollie is merely a cut and paste propagandist who has established an arbitrary timeline for her slogans and clichés as she cuts and pastes her sweaty, feverish Moooooslim tirades.
There's my little stalker / plagiarist. I knew you would be trolling for posts of mine you could plagiarize.
 
Zzzzz...what a buffoon, nobody is denying the "existence" of Muslims or Christians, they were the same people who invaded the holy land of the Jews. And despite that, the Jews kept a presence and kept coming back to their religious, ancestral, and cultural holy land over the mellenia.

Actually it's you terrorist ass kissers that deny the presence and migration of Jews to Israel over the last two thousand years.
 

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