This is my body

Your body belongs to the one who provides and pays for your healthcare.

And seriously, that is THE single most fucking asinine thing you've ever said.

Which is saying a lot.

like when someone claims they have control of their body when someone else is paying for their healthcare? If I am paying for it via taxes I have a say in your body.

Bullshit. And that's a huge NEVER.

In other words, incredibly weak argument.

And? You hate women.
 

Who's body does the 12 week old fetus with complete skeletal structure belong to? I agree that it's your body, but why the hell aren't birth control, condoms, planning around ovulation, and the morning after pill enough options for you to not have an undesired pregnancy. When you go in for delivery should we still respect your body and allow you to have an abortion? Be accountable for your actions instead of trying to avoid responsibility. By the end of the first trimester there's a good possibility that pain receptors are developed in the fetal brain. How shocked would we be to find out that aborted fetuses feel the pain of death?

Even though most women use contraception, accidents still happen. Why should the woman, who tried to be responsible, be told she should be responsible and have a baby she isn't ready for?

A 12 week old fetus doesn't have the brain capacity to feel pain. Look up 'cerebral cortex'.
 

Who's body does the 12 week old fetus with complete skeletal structure belong to? I agree that it's your body, but why the hell aren't birth control, condoms, planning around ovulation, and the morning after pill enough options for you to not have an undesired pregnancy. When you go in for delivery should we still respect your body and allow you to have an abortion? Be accountable for your actions instead of trying to avoid responsibility. By the end of the first trimester there's a good possibility that pain receptors are developed in the fetal brain. How shocked would we be to find out that aborted fetuses feel the pain of death?

Even though most women use contraception, accidents still happen. Why should the woman, who tried to be responsible, be told she should be responsible and have a baby she isn't ready for?

A 12 week old fetus doesn't have the brain capacity to feel pain. Look up 'cerebral cortex'.

The discussion is about who pays for aborting the baby she "accidentally" conceived. If you are not ready for a baby, don't have sex...that's pretty f**kin' simple.
 

I agree, unless you want me to pay for something, then I get a say in it. Keep it simple, stay out of my wallet, I will stay out of your decisions. Insist you have the right to my money, I will insist I have the right to decide how you spend it.

Really? So we all get a say in how ALL government funding goes?

Because I'm pretty pissed about all this military complex, war shit.

OK, lets cut the defense budget by 50%, get rid of the TSA, let CBP concentrate on protecting us from terrorists instead of trying to stop drugs and tourists, cut the FBI in half... I could go on, but you would be better of if stop assuming I am a wingnut.

In the meantime, stop demanding I pay for things you insist are not my business.
 
Do you pay for it? No.

I pay for my health insurance.

I do too, and I have received birth control from Planned Parenthood.
Of course men like QW like to have faux outrage...I am wondering where their outrage is when medicare covers viagra and penis pumps?

I do not agree that I should have to pay for that shit, either. Guys wanna be big studs, let them foot the bill themselves. Too many men see themselves only as men if they can still get it up and use it. Too bad, really. Most older women I am acquainted with are looking forward to the time when they no longer feel pressured to pleasure their guy.
Then there are the guys who resort to "enhancement" and pay the price. I work with a 58 yr old guy who married himself and "imported" wife half his age. Of course, she wanted a baby, he ordered up the Viagra and obliged her. Kid was born about a month ago. He's got grandchildren older than his latest son. All he does is bitch about how much sleep he's not getting...what the hell did he expect?
 
A 12 week old fetus doesn't have the brain capacity to feel pain. Look up 'cerebral cortex'.

I don't think Afros have the brain capacity to feel pain. Their squeals when you poke them is just reflex. Even if they might feel pain, their lower IQ means they less feel pain, making them less of persons and so less worthy of legal protections.

I'm glad we agree on this.
 
I do too, and I have received birth control from Planned Parenthood.
Of course men like QW like to have faux outrage...I am wondering where their outrage is when medicare covers viagra and penis pumps?

They should have to have counseling before they can get Viagra.

But that's a violation of the mans rights!

yes and no

If ED is coming from depression, yes, counseling is needed and probably already occurred.


If it's just so he can get it up more often, fuck him. He should buy it himself or see if his insurance covers it.
 
Does yours? No.

Do you pay for it? No.

How do you know? You do realize that many women pay for the services Planned Parenthood provide, right?

Do you realize that if you insist on tax dollars going to Planned Parenthood I pay for it too? That makes everything they do, including all the people they treat, my fracking business. If you don't want me in their business keep your hands off of my money.

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A 12 week old fetus doesn't have the brain capacity to feel pain. Look up 'cerebral cortex'.

I don't think Afros have the brain capacity to feel pain. Their squeals when you poke them is just reflex. Even if they might feel pain, their lower IQ means they less feel pain, making them less of persons and so less worthy of legal protections.

I'm glad we agree on this.

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Do you pay for it? No.

I pay for my health insurance.

I do too, and I have received birth control from Planned Parenthood.
Of course men like QW like to have faux outrage...I am wondering where their outrage is when medicare covers viagra and penis pumps?

What I have are principles, something you sadly lack. I want to cut government spending and let people help each other without the government making a bunch of rules that force Planned Parenthood to spend more money lobbying the government than they do helping women. You, for some reason, claim you don't want me to have a say in anything, yet insist I have to pay for it. Do you see me insisting that you pay for my toupee? Wouldn't that give you the right to tell me what color it is?
 
And seriously, that is THE single most fucking asinine thing you've ever said.

Which is saying a lot.

like when someone claims they have control of their body when someone else is paying for their healthcare? If I am paying for it via taxes I have a say in your body.

Bullshit. And that's a huge NEVER.

In other words, incredibly weak argument.

And? You hate women.


Bullshit? If I'm paying for your care and you keep abusing your body hell yes I am going to stop you one way or the other.You don't have control of anything when someone is paying the bill for you. You wanted government healthcare this is what you will get.

In other words, incredibly weak argument.

And? You hate women.

Does this mean you lost the discussion since you used a weak reply to counter the fact if someone pays for your healthcare your body no longer belongs to you?
 
I pay for my health insurance.

I do too, and I have received birth control from Planned Parenthood.
Of course men like QW like to have faux outrage...I am wondering where their outrage is when medicare covers viagra and penis pumps?

They should have to have counseling before they can get Viagra.

I think the pill should be OTC, and that you should be able to buy it at the gas station. Seriously, you need to get your head out of your assumptions about the way I think.
 

Who's body does the 12 week old fetus with complete skeletal structure belong to? I agree that it's your body, but why the hell aren't birth control, condoms, planning around ovulation, and the morning after pill enough options for you to not have an undesired pregnancy. When you go in for delivery should we still respect your body and allow you to have an abortion? Be accountable for your actions instead of trying to avoid responsibility. By the end of the first trimester there's a good possibility that pain receptors are developed in the fetal brain. How shocked would we be to find out that aborted fetuses feel the pain of death?

Even though most women use contraception, accidents still happen. Why should the woman, who tried to be responsible, be told she should be responsible and have a baby she isn't ready for?

A 12 week old fetus doesn't have the brain capacity to feel pain. Look up 'cerebral cortex'.

Why should a woman who thought she wanted a child be responsible for it after she finds out it keeps her up at night? Shouldn't she be allowed to toss it in the garbage and get on with her life? Why should she have to pay for her mistake the rest of her life?
 
Hell, I'm getting older and need some help for the heavy labor around the farm. If BDB can't get her abortion, I'd be more than happy to take in the by-blow. I might even consider visitation, as long as BD agrees to work whenever she's around the place. Hell, some good, honest, sweaty farm work might do her some good!
 
Who's body does the 12 week old fetus with complete skeletal structure belong to? I agree that it's your body, but why the hell aren't birth control, condoms, planning around ovulation, and the morning after pill enough options for you to not have an undesired pregnancy. When you go in for delivery should we still respect your body and allow you to have an abortion? Be accountable for your actions instead of trying to avoid responsibility. By the end of the first trimester there's a good possibility that pain receptors are developed in the fetal brain. How shocked would we be to find out that aborted fetuses feel the pain of death?

Even though most women use contraception, accidents still happen. Why should the woman, who tried to be responsible, be told she should be responsible and have a baby she isn't ready for?

A 12 week old fetus doesn't have the brain capacity to feel pain. Look up 'cerebral cortex'.

Why should a woman who thought she wanted a child be responsible for it after she finds out it keeps her up at night? Shouldn't she be allowed to toss it in the garbage and get on with her life? Why should she have to pay for her mistake the rest of her life?

There is a difference between the born and the unborn.
 
Even though most women use contraception, accidents still happen. Why should the woman, who tried to be responsible, be told she should be responsible and have a baby she isn't ready for?

A 12 week old fetus doesn't have the brain capacity to feel pain. Look up 'cerebral cortex'.

Why should a woman who thought she wanted a child be responsible for it after she finds out it keeps her up at night? Shouldn't she be allowed to toss it in the garbage and get on with her life? Why should she have to pay for her mistake the rest of her life?

There is a difference between the born and the unborn.

I disagree.

Come to think of it, so do a few experts.

Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say - Telegraph
 

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