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Its amusing to me that a bunch of women whining in a video about how they want control over their own bodies are really talking about wanting a bunch of other people to take responsibility for almost every aspect of their reproductive lives.
Where on earth do rightists come up with this ignorant nonsense.
Millions of dead fetuses and fathers denied their children appreciate your concern with bearing responsibility for ones actions.Agreed. And that's the point I'm trying to make. When you take risks, there are consequences. Sometimes these consequences are undesirable. It's wrong to avoid responsibilities when you make mistakes. Just like the man who made a mistake must face the consequences of supporting the child, the mother must take responsibility for her actions and inactions.
Pefectly valid points you are free to apply to yourself whenever you find yourself in that situation. But the only person you are free to apply them to is yourself.
There is a difference between the born and the unborn.
I disagree.
Come to think of it, so do a few experts.
Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say - Telegraph
I have read that a thousand times, and they are entitled to their opinions.
She can't throw it in the garbage but she can give it up for apoption.
Dumpster babies are more common in California than those given up in safe havens.
You are a liar. ALL neo republicans are liars.
An average of 6 infants are found in dumpsters in Los Angeles every year.
Approximately 14,000 babies voluntarily given up for adoption in U S each year.
How do you know a Con is lying? His lips are moving.
Dumb ass is Los Angles the only city in California? Kat said Dumpster babies are more common in California
It's like comparing statistics in California with statistics nationwide! Or, comparing babies left at safe havens with babies put up for adoption.
Liberals can't tell the truth, they just can't. More unwanted babies are born nationwide than either dumped or given to a safe haven in California.
Nebraska is a safe haven state, people were coming there from around the country to dump off their kids.
Its amusing to me that a bunch of women whining in a video about how they want control over their own bodies are really talking about wanting a bunch of other people to take responsibility for almost every aspect of their reproductive lives.
Where on earth do rightists come up with this ignorant nonsense.
Why? Because that's life. When you take risks with existing consequences, you don't get to act like you didn't have a choice. When you have sex there is the possibility you will get pregnant. We've made those possibilities pretty slim, but you still have to face the consequences. Here's a comparison. If the man and women have sex and she becomes pregnant and keeps the baby, why does the father have to pay child support if he favored an abortion? Why should a man, who tried to be responsible, be told he should be financially responsible for a baby he isn't ready for?
Pretty sexist when you use that logic.
Also, about your claim that a 12 wk old fetus doesn't feel pain. The only reports we have show that the thalamus and limbic systems account for most pain reception and are developed at week 17. The cerebral cortex accounts for higher order thinking and to act like that's responsible for pain reception is as moronic as saying animals don't feel pain (since most non-mammals don't have a cerebral cortex). We have proven that they feel pain at week 17, but we don't know if they feel it earlier. At week 12 a fetus responds to external stimuli, which is pretty strong evidence that they feel pain.
Men shouldn't be having sex, either, if they are not ready for the possible consequences.
Agreed. And that's the point I'm trying to make. When you take risks, there are consequences. Sometimes these consequences are undesirable. It's wrong to avoid responsibilities when you make mistakes. Just like the man who made a mistake must face the consequences of supporting the child, the mother must take responsibility for her actions and inactions.
Where on earth do rightists come up with this ignorant nonsense.
Men shouldn't be having sex, either, if they are not ready for the possible consequences.
Agreed. And that's the point I'm trying to make. When you take risks, there are consequences. Sometimes these consequences are undesirable. It's wrong to avoid responsibilities when you make mistakes. Just like the man who made a mistake must face the consequences of supporting the child, the mother must take responsibility for her actions and inactions.
It would appear that we're singing from the same score, then!
That video is a complete embarrassment to female-kind.
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Fuck Planned parenthood, tell them to beg for donations and keep their hands off
MY MONEY
Understand?
That video is a complete embarrassment to female-kind.
How dare women make choices for themselves, even if it helps them and the taxpayers spend less money.
That video is a complete embarrassment to female-kind.
How dare women make choices for themselves, even if it helps them and the taxpayers spend less money.
I'll agree that it helps them spend less money, but I am required to spend my money that I would better utilize some other way. So I'm missing the part where my paying for their choices is saving me one thin dime.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kU0XCVey_U]This Is My Rifle. This Is My Gun - YouTube[/ame]
Fuck Planned parenthood, tell them to beg for donations and keep their hands off
MY MONEY
Understand?
Ok, then we should implement a higher tax for right wingers since they voluntarily want to get rid of contraception which will drive up the cost of healthcare through abortions and medical coverage for that new kid of yours (and medical care for kids ain't cheap).
I don't mind this, as long those who don't want contraception take up financial responsibility.
That video is a complete embarrassment to female-kind.
How dare women make choices for themselves, even if it helps them and the taxpayers spend less money.
How dare women make choices for themselves, even if it helps them and the taxpayers spend less money.
I'll agree that it helps them spend less money, but I am required to spend my money that I would better utilize some other way. So I'm missing the part where my paying for their choices is saving me one thin dime.
Well, if you don't want to spend that money but you are forced to, then your goal should be focused on minimizing the amount you have to pay, which happens to be that Contraception is the cheapest route.
Where is my choice on the military budget that I help fund?
We all pay for things we don't agree with. I don't think we should have as many bases as we do all over the world, but my tax dollars go to funding them. Where is my choice?
Yeah, not a very good argument.
Where is my choice on the military budget that I help fund?
We all pay for things we don't agree with. I don't think we should have as many bases as we do all over the world, but my tax dollars go to funding them. Where is my choice?
Yeah, not a very good argument.
The military is one of the very few, specifically mandated Federal duties defined in the Constitution. Sorry, but your comparing apples and truck tires isn't going to cut it as a valid comparison, but by all means, carry on.
Where is my choice on the military budget that I help fund?
We all pay for things we don't agree with. I don't think we should have as many bases as we do all over the world, but my tax dollars go to funding them. Where is my choice?
Yeah, not a very good argument.
