The 'Deep State:' Fact Or Fable

[lennypartiv]

I will prove it untrue as soon as you prove the tooth fairy is untrue...deal?

Well we do know fairies exist, especially in the Democrat party.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What is the logic behind immunizing Quid Pro Joe Biden 'cause he is running for President???

Better to charge him with selling influence after he is elected?

Better to charge him with selling influence after some evidence surfaces that a crime was committed.

Here's the evidence....a confession on tape.





The bribe at 02:15

Withholding aid in the interests of the US is rather different from withholding aid for your personal benefit. I've seen no evidence that Biden personally stood to gain anything since there was no investigation into Hunter at the time.

Let's check:


The President has the authority to ask Ukraine for help in rooting out corruption.....


If that is a problem.....
....why did Bill 'the rapist' Clinton sign a treaty with the Ukraine with exactly the same purpose?????


"Formal Title

• Treaty Between the United States of America and Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters with Annex, signed at Kiev on July 22, 1998, and with an Exchange of Notes signed on September 30, 1999, which provides for its provisional application.

Date Received from President

• 11/10/1999 Text of Treaty Document available as:
  • TXT"
  • TREATY WITH UKRAINE ON MUTUAL LEGAL ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS
    
    __________
    
    MESSAGE
    
    from
    
    THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
    
    transmitting
    
    TREATY BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND UKRAINE ON MUTUAL LEGAL
    ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS WITH ANNEX, SIGNED AT KIEV ON JULY 22,
    1998, AND WITH AN EXCHANGE OF NOTES SIGNED ON SEPTEMBER 30, 1999, WHICH
    PROVIDES FOR ITS PROVISIONAL APPLICATION
    
    Text - Treaty Document 106-16 - Treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters

 

[PoliticalChic]

What is the logic behind immunizing Quid Pro Joe Biden 'cause he is running for President???

Better to charge him with selling influence after he is elected?

Better to charge him with selling influence after some evidence surfaces that a crime was committed.

Here's the evidence....a confession on tape.





The bribe at 02:15

Withholding aid in the interests of the US is rather different from withholding aid for your personal benefit. I've seen no evidence that Biden personally stood to gain anything since there was no investigation into Hunter at the time.

"Withholding aid in the interests of the US is rather different from withholding aid for your personal benefit."

It is no more 'personal benefit' than this is:


....we have proof that the Democrats did exactly what they claim was a crime when Trump does it…..


"Dear Editor:

In May, CNN reported that [Democrat] Sens. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., Richard Durbin, D-Ill., and Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., wrote a letter to Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, expressing concern at the closing of four investigations they said were critical to the Mueller probe. In the letter, they implied that their support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine was at stake.
Describing themselves as “strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine,” the Democratic senators declared, “We have supported [the] capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these [democratic] principles to avoid the ire of President Trump,” before demanding Lutsenko “reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation with this important investigation.”
https://hudsonreporter.com/2019/10/...o-investigate-trump-in-may-2018-please-share/






“… in May, CNN reported that Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) and Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) wrote a letter to Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, expressing concern at the closing of four investigations they said were critical to the Mueller probe. In the letter, they implied that their support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine was at stake. Describing themselves as “strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine,” the Democratic senators declared, “We have supported [the] capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these [democratic] principles to avoid the ire of President Trump,” before demanding Lutsenko “reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation with this important investigation.”

So, it’s okay for Democratic senators to encourage Ukraine to investigate Trump, but it’s not okay for the president to allegedly encourage Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden?”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...tigation-might-do-more-hurt-biden-than-trump/




Democrats threatened the Ukraine should it fail to support their attack on their political enemy.

Sounds just like what they're claiming Trump did.




The letter from Menendez, Durbin and Leahy is here:



https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/...cutor of Ukraine on Mueller investigation.pdf

 

[PoliticalChic]

I’m always curious about something….if the deep state is running the government…how do they do it without the President signing off on bills, spending, etc…? Is he part of the “deep state"

At least in 1/2 the Congress, nothing moves without the turtle’s say so. Is he part of the “deep state”

Don't worry....I can help you understand, you dunce.....


Now...if you are serious about gaining the education that government school deprived you of....begin reading

"The Birth of the Administrative State: Where It Came From and What It Means for Limited Government"
The Birth of the Administrative State: Where It Came From and What It Means for Limited Government



And I'm curious, too.....how do morons like you get through school without ever having read a book???????

 

[candycorn]

I’m always curious about something….if the deep state is running the government…how do they do it without the President signing off on bills, spending, etc…? Is he part of the “deep state"

At least in 1/2 the Congress, nothing moves without the turtle’s say so. Is he part of the “deep state”

Don't worry....I can help you understand, you dunce.....


Now...if you are serious about gaining the education that government school deprived you of....begin reading

"The Birth of the Administrative State: Where It Came From and What It Means for Limited Government"
The Birth of the Administrative State: Where It Came From and What It Means for Limited Government



And I'm curious, too.....how do morons like you get through school without ever having read a book???????

Poor jumbo can’t even answer the most basic question. Hey it’s your fable…I’m not surprised.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I’m always curious about something….if the deep state is running the government…how do they do it without the President signing off on bills, spending, etc…? Is he part of the “deep state"

At least in 1/2 the Congress, nothing moves without the turtle’s say so. Is he part of the “deep state”

And....more: Progressives don't believe in democracy.....only in the illusion of democracy.


More reading for you: Talmon.



The latest variation of totalitarianism is neither religious, nor even political: it is cultural. “Totalitarian democracy” is a term made famous by J. L. Talmon to refer to a system of government in which lawfully elected representatives maintain the integrity of a nation state whose citizens, while granted the right to vote, have little or no participation in the decision-making process of the government.



Who does make the decisions?

“Rather than the people being governed by elected representatives, the three branches, “Woodrow Wilson gave the administrative state its rationale: he held that government by nonpartisan, public-spirited, Ivy League–trained experts making rules in such agencies as the Federal Trade Commission or the Interstate Commerce Commission would be infinitely wiser, more efficient, and more responsive to changing conditions and the evolving spirit of the age than the Framers’ government of limited and separated powers, a clockwork relic in the electricity age.



Don't be stupid your whole life.....

....take a day off.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I’m always curious about something….if the deep state is running the government…how do they do it without the President signing off on bills, spending, etc…? Is he part of the “deep state"

At least in 1/2 the Congress, nothing moves without the turtle’s say so. Is he part of the “deep state”

Don't worry....I can help you understand, you dunce.....


Now...if you are serious about gaining the education that government school deprived you of....begin reading

"The Birth of the Administrative State: Where It Came From and What It Means for Limited Government"
The Birth of the Administrative State: Where It Came From and What It Means for Limited Government



And I'm curious, too.....how do morons like you get through school without ever having read a book???????

Poor jumbo can’t even answer the most basic question. Hey it’s your fable…I’m not surprised.

Time and again I skewer you and document how truly stupid and uneducated you Liberals are....and the best you can do is 'Jumbo.'





Can you name three or four of the books that have informed your geopolitical outlook?


Quite a joke, huh?

Works on all of you Democrat voters.

 

[CowboyTed]

What is the logic behind immunizing Quid Pro Joe Biden 'cause he is running for President???

Better to charge him with selling influence after he is elected?

Better to charge him with selling influence after some evidence surfaces that a crime was committed.

Here's the evidence....a confession on tape.





The bribe at 02:15

Hey stupid. The Republican House and Senate sent Joe Biden to Europe to fire that prosecutor. They VOTED for the aid, and the anti-corruption conditions attached to it, by the EU, NATO, and the US Government. Now McConnell and Graham pretend they had no part in this.

Once again, you are parrotting Russian propaganda and disinforrmation - all of which is easily proven false, and I have to ask you why?

Why are YOU promoting Russian lies and conspiracy theories? Your fool of a President is caught and all of his lies are being exposed.

Trump's investigation of the investigators is releasing a report that says "no spying". The three Trump Administration investigations into Hillary's emails have completely exonerated her, and now the claims that the FBI was out to get Trump have fallen apart utterly.

Why are you promoting Putin's lies? What's in this for YOU? You claim to be so smart, so you must know these are lies. What the fuck are you doing?

Deep State is a Russian Promoted idea to destabilise US, people using it are being assets to the Putin led Russian Government.

Look who thy have called Deep State, Vindman, Mueller, Brennan.... These are people who fought for America... Russia has managed to turn a large of section Americans to vilify them over what essentially is bullshit. Putin is laughing, he has even managed after every pointing the finger at them deflect the same section to point at Ukraine (his enemy and US ally).

America is becoming a laughing stock for conspiracy theories and any made up bullshit Russia can come up with and get in front of Trump...

 

[Oddball]

Is The “Deep State” A Fable?

No…it’s a fact.




1.Government school grads will deny the fact 'til their dying day.
There are two reasons why government school grads regularly claim that there is no “Deep State:”

a.They are trying to obviate the argument that there is a cabal in our government that is aimed at reversing the 2016 election.

b.They are ignorant of the Progressive doctrine, from Woodrow Wilson on, that government should be run by unelected bureaucrats who will do a better job than the deplorables.

“Rather than the people being governed by elected representatives, the three branches, “Woodrow Wilson gave the administrative state its rationale: he held that government by nonpartisan, public-spirited, Ivy League–trained experts making rules in such agencies as the Federal Trade Commission or the Interstate Commerce Commission would be infinitely wiser, more efficient, and more responsive to changing conditions and the evolving spirit of the age than the Framers’ government of limited and separated powers, a clockwork relic in the electricity age.

….ever since the New Deal supersized Wilson’s system, administrative agencies have multiplied like the Sorcerer’s Apprentice’s brooms, so that federal regulations now spill out of 240 volumes—and not only overregulated businessmen, infrastructure planners, and a few law professors, but also Supreme Court justices, have begun to wonder by what legitimate authority unelected bureaucrats can make rules like a legislature, carry them out like an executive, and adjudicate and punish infractions of them like a judiciary, usurping powers that the Constitution places solely in the Congress, the president, and the courts, with no two powers concentrated in the same hands.” The Court Moves Right
The Court Moves Right




2. Government school grads have been totally weaned away from the Founder’s view that free citizens elect….vote into office….those who rule them. Hence, the indoctrinated deny that they are the sheep being herded by unelected bureaucrats, diplomats, career government workers who are in charge….the Deep State.

And the Deep State….which clearly exists….is fighting to prove that the great unwashed must be chastised for electing a candidate not of their choosing…..giving us, first Russiagate, and now Ukrainegate.




3. “People capable of feeling shame would not have immediately followed up the Russiagate hoax fiasco with another transparently phony—and in “substance” nearly identical—attempt to remove President Trump from office, overturn the 2016 election, and shower deplorable-Americans with contempt and hatred. But our ruling elites have no shame.”
The Empire Strikes Back

4. Those people….described here…..ran, and testified at the recent Democrat committee hearing, mislabeled as the ‘Impeachment Inquiry,’…

“Beginning in the late 19th century and intensifying in the mid-1960s, elites inside and outside our government have centralized authority in a “fourth branch,” the executive branch’s agencies and bureaucracies. Marini refers to those institutions, the people in them, and their governing philosophy and methods as “the administrative state.” Administrative state rule is fundamentally anti-democratic and anti-constitutional, intended to be rule by “expert consensus.” Ibid.



This is the Deep State.

It claims to be the real American government.

The Deep State: The Headless Fourth Branch of Government | Ryan McMaken

 

[Oddball]

Deep State is a Russian Promoted idea to destabilise US, people using it are being assets to the Putin led Russian Government.

Look who thy have called Deep State, Vindman, Mueller, Brennan.... These are people who fought for America... Russia has managed to turn a large of section Americans to vilify them over what essentially is bullshit. Putin is laughing, he has even managed after every pointing the finger at them deflect the same section to point at Ukraine (his enemy and US ally).

America is becoming a laughing stock for conspiracy theories and any made up bullshit Russia can come up with and get in front of Trump...

 

[Oddball]

Can you name three or four of the books that have informed your geopolitical outlook?

Super easy peasy, lemon squeezy....

The Road to Serfdom
1984
The Law
Economics in One Lesson
Anarchy, State and Utopia

 

[Dragonlady]

What is the logic behind immunizing Quid Pro Joe Biden 'cause he is running for President???

Better to charge him with selling influence after he is elected?

Better to charge him with selling influence after some evidence surfaces that a crime was committed.

Here's the evidence....a confession on tape.





The bribe at 02:15

Hey stupid. The Republican House and Senate sent Joe Biden to Europe to fire that prosecutor. They VOTED for the aid, and the anti-corruption conditions attached to it, by the EU, NATO, and the US Government. Now McConnell and Graham pretend they had no part in this.

Once again, you are parrotting Russian propaganda and disinforrmation - all of which is easily proven false, and I have to ask you why?

Why are YOU promoting Russian lies and conspiracy theories? Your fool of a President is caught and all of his lies are being exposed.

Trump's investigation of the investigators is releasing a report that says "no spying". The three Trump Administration investigations into Hillary's emails have completely exonerated her, and now the claims that the FBI was out to get Trump have fallen apart utterly.

Why are you promoting Putin's lies? What's in this for YOU?

Try to avoid the vulgarity that is the hallmark of Liberals and the intellectually challenged....or, is that redundant.

Biden used the American fisc to save his son and the company that bribed the Bidens, from investigation.

Hunter Biden, drug addict, tossed from the military, ignorant of the energy industry, not known to speak the language of the Ukraine, .....but worth $millions to Burisma...


"The bank records show that, on most months when Burisma money flowed, two wire transfers of $83,333.33 each were sent to the Rosemont Seneca–connected account on the same day. The same Rosemont Seneca–linked account typically then would pay Hunter Biden one or more payments ranging from $5,000 to $25,000 each. Prosecutors reviewed internal company documents and wanted to interview Hunter Biden and Archer about why they had received such payments, according to interviews.”
Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived


Hunter timeline: Hunter Biden: The Most Comprehensive Timeline | National Review



.... now....what is the value that Hunter Biden brought to the company?



Before you next post, you should consider asking yourself” Do I really want the word ‘moron’ in my obituary?”

That's a question you need to ask yourself, Chickie Baby. Moron, promoter of Russian propaganda. Claimed to be smart but couldn't tell divisive progaganda designed to undermine and destroy the nation and promulgated by Russia from reality. The only question remaining is are you a willing agent of Russia, or an unwitting fool?

You fools keep deflecting back to Hunter Biden, who has NOTHING to do with Donald J. Trump trying to extort investigations against his perceived political rivals using taxpayer money. If you want to investigate Hunter Biden, you go right ahead, but don't howl when the next Democratic President opens investigations on Jared, Ivanka, Eric or Don Jr.

Eric has already been investigated by the FBI for fraud in skimming millions from the money he raised on behalf of St. Jude's. Ivanka is currently under investigation in Vancouver for bank fraud in the construction of the Trump Hotel there, the $500 million loan Don Jr. negotiated with the Chinese government for the Trump Indonesia looks hinky as hell.

And while you complain about my profanity, you voted for a man who refers to Third World countries as "shit hole nations", who says he grabs women by the "pussy", and who cursed and swore in a speech to the Boy Scouts of America, and who uses profane language every day on TV. You worship the man who has coursened the public discourse with his own profanity.

Of course you're a fool and a hypocrite. Probably a product of home schooling. Spoon fed right wing propaganda by your parents from kindergarten age, and utterly lacking in the critical thinking skills they teach in public schools to help you discern fact from bullshit.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What is the logic behind immunizing Quid Pro Joe Biden 'cause he is running for President???

Better to charge him with selling influence after he is elected?

Better to charge him with selling influence after some evidence surfaces that a crime was committed.

Here's the evidence....a confession on tape.





The bribe at 02:15

Hey stupid. The Republican House and Senate sent Joe Biden to Europe to fire that prosecutor. They VOTED for the aid, and the anti-corruption conditions attached to it, by the EU, NATO, and the US Government. Now McConnell and Graham pretend they had no part in this.

Once again, you are parrotting Russian propaganda and disinforrmation - all of which is easily proven false, and I have to ask you why?

Why are YOU promoting Russian lies and conspiracy theories? Your fool of a President is caught and all of his lies are being exposed.

Trump's investigation of the investigators is releasing a report that says "no spying". The three Trump Administration investigations into Hillary's emails have completely exonerated her, and now the claims that the FBI was out to get Trump have fallen apart utterly.

Why are you promoting Putin's lies? What's in this for YOU? You claim to be so smart, so you must know these are lies. What the fuck are you doing?

Deep State is a Russian Promoted idea to destabilise US, people using it are being assets to the Putin led Russian Government.

Look who thy have called Deep State, Vindman, Mueller, Brennan.... These are people who fought for America... Russia has managed to turn a large of section Americans to vilify them over what essentially is bullshit. Putin is laughing, he has even managed after every pointing the finger at them deflect the same section to point at Ukraine (his enemy and US ally).

America is becoming a laughing stock for conspiracy theories and any made up bullshit Russia can come up with and get in front of Trump...

Don't worry....I can help you understand, you dunce.....


Now...if you are serious about gaining the education that government school deprived you of....begin reading

"The Birth of the Administrative State: Where It Came From and What It Means for Limited Government"
The Birth of the Administrative State: Where It Came From and What It Means for Limited Government



And I'm curious, too.....how do morons like you get through school without ever having read a book???????

 

[PoliticalChic]

Can you name three or four of the books that have informed your geopolitical outlook?

Super easy peasy, lemon squeezy....

The Road to Serfdom
1984
The Law
Economics in One Lesson
Anarchy, State and Utopia

See....that's the problem....it isn't just not easy for them....it's impossible.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What is the logic behind immunizing Quid Pro Joe Biden 'cause he is running for President???

Better to charge him with selling influence after he is elected?

Better to charge him with selling influence after some evidence surfaces that a crime was committed.

Here's the evidence....a confession on tape.





The bribe at 02:15

Hey stupid. The Republican House and Senate sent Joe Biden to Europe to fire that prosecutor. They VOTED for the aid, and the anti-corruption conditions attached to it, by the EU, NATO, and the US Government. Now McConnell and Graham pretend they had no part in this.

Once again, you are parrotting Russian propaganda and disinforrmation - all of which is easily proven false, and I have to ask you why?

Why are YOU promoting Russian lies and conspiracy theories? Your fool of a President is caught and all of his lies are being exposed.

Trump's investigation of the investigators is releasing a report that says "no spying". The three Trump Administration investigations into Hillary's emails have completely exonerated her, and now the claims that the FBI was out to get Trump have fallen apart utterly.

Why are you promoting Putin's lies? What's in this for YOU?

Try to avoid the vulgarity that is the hallmark of Liberals and the intellectually challenged....or, is that redundant.

Biden used the American fisc to save his son and the company that bribed the Bidens, from investigation.

Hunter Biden, drug addict, tossed from the military, ignorant of the energy industry, not known to speak the language of the Ukraine, .....but worth $millions to Burisma...


"The bank records show that, on most months when Burisma money flowed, two wire transfers of $83,333.33 each were sent to the Rosemont Seneca–connected account on the same day. The same Rosemont Seneca–linked account typically then would pay Hunter Biden one or more payments ranging from $5,000 to $25,000 each. Prosecutors reviewed internal company documents and wanted to interview Hunter Biden and Archer about why they had received such payments, according to interviews.”
Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived


Hunter timeline: Hunter Biden: The Most Comprehensive Timeline | National Review



.... now....what is the value that Hunter Biden brought to the company?



Before you next post, you should consider asking yourself” Do I really want the word ‘moron’ in my obituary?”

That's a question you need to ask yourself, Chickie Baby. Moron, promoter of Russian propaganda. Claimed to be smart but couldn't tell divisive progaganda designed to undermine and destroy the nation and promulgated by Russia from reality. The only question remaining is are you a willing agent of Russia, or an unwitting fool?

You fools keep deflecting back to Hunter Biden, who has NOTHING to do with Donald J. Trump trying to extort investigations against his perceived political rivals using taxpayer money. If you want to investigate Hunter Biden, you go right ahead, but don't howl when the next Democratic President opens investigations on Jared, Ivanka, Eric or Don Jr.

Eric has already been investigated by the FBI for fraud in skimming millions from the money he raised on behalf of St. Jude's. Ivanka is currently under investigation in Vancouver for bank fraud in the construction of the Trump Hotel there, the $500 million loan Don Jr. negotiated with the Chinese government for the Trump Indonesia looks hinky as hell.

And while you complain about my profanity, you voted for a man who refers to Third World countries as "shit hole nations", who says he grabs women by the "pussy", and who cursed and swore in a speech to the Boy Scouts of America, and who uses profane language every day on TV. You worship the man who has coursened the public discourse with his own profanity.

Of course you're a fool and a hypocrite. Probably a product of home schooling. Spoon fed right wing propaganda by your parents from kindergarten age, and utterly lacking in the critical thinking skills they teach in public schools to help you discern fact from bullshit.

"You fools keep deflecting back to Hunter Biden, who has NOTHING to do with Donald J. Trump trying to extort investigations against his perceived political rivals using taxpayer money."


I keep thinking that nobody could post anything as stupid and easily refutable as this.....then, you do.

First,....here's Biden doing exactly that:




The bribe at 02:15


Biden sidesteps questions about corruption;







Here are three Democrat Senators, the same:

....we have proof that the Democrats did exactly what they claim was a crime when Trump does it…..


"Dear Editor:

In May, CNN reported that Sens. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., Richard Durbin, D-Ill., and Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., wrote a letter to Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, expressing concern at the closing of four investigations they said were critical to the Mueller probe. In the letter, they implied that their support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine was at stake.
Describing themselves as “strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine,” the Democratic senators declared, “We have supported [the] capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these [democratic] principles to avoid the ire of President Trump,” before demanding Lutsenko “reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation with this important investigation.”
https://hudsonreporter.com/2019/10/...o-investigate-trump-in-may-2018-please-share/






“… in May, CNN reported that Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) and Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) wrote a letter to Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, expressing concern at the closing of four investigations they said were critical to the Mueller probe. In the letter, they implied that their support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine was at stake. Describing themselves as “strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine,” the Democratic senators declared, “We have supported [the] capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these [democratic] principles to avoid the ire of President Trump,” before demanding Lutsenko “reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation with this important investigation.”

So, it’s okay for Democratic senators to encourage Ukraine to investigate Trump, but it’s not okay for the president to allegedly encourage Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden?”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...tigation-might-do-more-hurt-biden-than-trump/




Democrats threatened the Ukraine should it fail to support their attack on their political enemy.

Sounds just like what they're claiming Trump did.




The letter from Menendez, Durbin and Leahy is here:



https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/...cutor of Ukraine on Mueller investigation.pdf





If I ever needed a brain transplant I’d want yours….’cause I’d want one that had never been used.

 

[Dragonlady]

Better to charge him with selling influence after some evidence surfaces that a crime was committed.

Here's the evidence....a confession on tape.





The bribe at 02:15

Hey stupid. The Republican House and Senate sent Joe Biden to Europe to fire that prosecutor. They VOTED for the aid, and the anti-corruption conditions attached to it, by the EU, NATO, and the US Government. Now McConnell and Graham pretend they had no part in this.

Once again, you are parrotting Russian propaganda and disinforrmation - all of which is easily proven false, and I have to ask you why?

Why are YOU promoting Russian lies and conspiracy theories? Your fool of a President is caught and all of his lies are being exposed.

Trump's investigation of the investigators is releasing a report that says "no spying". The three Trump Administration investigations into Hillary's emails have completely exonerated her, and now the claims that the FBI was out to get Trump have fallen apart utterly.

Why are you promoting Putin's lies? What's in this for YOU?

Try to avoid the vulgarity that is the hallmark of Liberals and the intellectually challenged....or, is that redundant.

Biden used the American fisc to save his son and the company that bribed the Bidens, from investigation.

Hunter Biden, drug addict, tossed from the military, ignorant of the energy industry, not known to speak the language of the Ukraine, .....but worth $millions to Burisma...


"The bank records show that, on most months when Burisma money flowed, two wire transfers of $83,333.33 each were sent to the Rosemont Seneca–connected account on the same day. The same Rosemont Seneca–linked account typically then would pay Hunter Biden one or more payments ranging from $5,000 to $25,000 each. Prosecutors reviewed internal company documents and wanted to interview Hunter Biden and Archer about why they had received such payments, according to interviews.”
Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived


Hunter timeline: Hunter Biden: The Most Comprehensive Timeline | National Review



.... now....what is the value that Hunter Biden brought to the company?



Before you next post, you should consider asking yourself” Do I really want the word ‘moron’ in my obituary?”

That's a question you need to ask yourself, Chickie Baby. Moron, promoter of Russian propaganda. Claimed to be smart but couldn't tell divisive progaganda designed to undermine and destroy the nation and promulgated by Russia from reality. The only question remaining is are you a willing agent of Russia, or an unwitting fool?

You fools keep deflecting back to Hunter Biden, who has NOTHING to do with Donald J. Trump trying to extort investigations against his perceived political rivals using taxpayer money. If you want to investigate Hunter Biden, you go right ahead, but don't howl when the next Democratic President opens investigations on Jared, Ivanka, Eric or Don Jr.

Eric has already been investigated by the FBI for fraud in skimming millions from the money he raised on behalf of St. Jude's. Ivanka is currently under investigation in Vancouver for bank fraud in the construction of the Trump Hotel there, the $500 million loan Don Jr. negotiated with the Chinese government for the Trump Indonesia looks hinky as hell.

And while you complain about my profanity, you voted for a man who refers to Third World countries as "shit hole nations", who says he grabs women by the "pussy", and who cursed and swore in a speech to the Boy Scouts of America, and who uses profane language every day on TV. You worship the man who has coursened the public discourse with his own profanity.

Of course you're a fool and a hypocrite. Probably a product of home schooling. Spoon fed right wing propaganda by your parents from kindergarten age, and utterly lacking in the critical thinking skills they teach in public schools to help you discern fact from bullshit.

"You fools keep deflecting back to Hunter Biden, who has NOTHING to do with Donald J. Trump trying to extort investigations against his perceived political rivals using taxpayer money."


I keep thinking that nobody could post anything as stupid and easily refutable as this.....then, you do.

First,....here's Biden doing exactly that:




The bribe at 02:15


Biden sidesteps questions about corruption;







Here are three Democrat Senators, the same:

....we have proof that the Democrats did exactly what they claim was a crime when Trump does it…..


"Dear Editor:

In May, CNN reported that Sens. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., Richard Durbin, D-Ill., and Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., wrote a letter to Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, expressing concern at the closing of four investigations they said were critical to the Mueller probe. In the letter, they implied that their support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine was at stake.
Describing themselves as “strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine,” the Democratic senators declared, “We have supported [the] capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these [democratic] principles to avoid the ire of President Trump,” before demanding Lutsenko “reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation with this important investigation.”
https://hudsonreporter.com/2019/10/...o-investigate-trump-in-may-2018-please-share/






“… in May, CNN reported that Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) and Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) wrote a letter to Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, expressing concern at the closing of four investigations they said were critical to the Mueller probe. In the letter, they implied that their support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine was at stake. Describing themselves as “strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine,” the Democratic senators declared, “We have supported [the] capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these [democratic] principles to avoid the ire of President Trump,” before demanding Lutsenko “reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation with this important investigation.”

So, it’s okay for Democratic senators to encourage Ukraine to investigate Trump, but it’s not okay for the president to allegedly encourage Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden?”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...tigation-might-do-more-hurt-biden-than-trump/




Democrats threatened the Ukraine should it fail to support their attack on their political enemy.

Sounds just like what they're claiming Trump did.




The letter from Menendez, Durbin and Leahy is here:



https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/...cutor of Ukraine on Mueller investigation.pdf





If I ever needed a brain transplant I’d want yours….’cause I’d want one that had never been used.

You can't even think for yourself enough to respond to a post. You cut and past your replies.

Let me repeat:

JOE BIDEN FIRED THE PROSECUTOR WHO WASN'T INVESTIGATING OR PROSECUTING BURISMA, NOT BECAUSE HE WAS. HUNTER BIDEN WAS NOT UNDER INVESTIGATION WHEN JOE FIRED THE PROSECUTOR. LINDSAY GRAHAM AND MITCH McCONNELL VOTED TO SEND BIDEN TO THE UKRAINE TO FIRE THE PROSECUTOR.

None of this has anything to do with Donald Trump's attempted extortion of the Ukrainian government to investigate the Bidens. If someone steals all of the money out of your bank account, you can't go to the bank with a gun and rob the bank, and then claim you were just trying to get the money back. You're guilty of bank robbery.

Or as my mother taught me as a child "Two wrongs don't make a right".

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here's the evidence....a confession on tape.





The bribe at 02:15

Hey stupid. The Republican House and Senate sent Joe Biden to Europe to fire that prosecutor. They VOTED for the aid, and the anti-corruption conditions attached to it, by the EU, NATO, and the US Government. Now McConnell and Graham pretend they had no part in this.

Once again, you are parrotting Russian propaganda and disinforrmation - all of which is easily proven false, and I have to ask you why?

Why are YOU promoting Russian lies and conspiracy theories? Your fool of a President is caught and all of his lies are being exposed.

Trump's investigation of the investigators is releasing a report that says "no spying". The three Trump Administration investigations into Hillary's emails have completely exonerated her, and now the claims that the FBI was out to get Trump have fallen apart utterly.

Why are you promoting Putin's lies? What's in this for YOU?

Try to avoid the vulgarity that is the hallmark of Liberals and the intellectually challenged....or, is that redundant.

Biden used the American fisc to save his son and the company that bribed the Bidens, from investigation.

Hunter Biden, drug addict, tossed from the military, ignorant of the energy industry, not known to speak the language of the Ukraine, .....but worth $millions to Burisma...


"The bank records show that, on most months when Burisma money flowed, two wire transfers of $83,333.33 each were sent to the Rosemont Seneca–connected account on the same day. The same Rosemont Seneca–linked account typically then would pay Hunter Biden one or more payments ranging from $5,000 to $25,000 each. Prosecutors reviewed internal company documents and wanted to interview Hunter Biden and Archer about why they had received such payments, according to interviews.”
Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived


Hunter timeline: Hunter Biden: The Most Comprehensive Timeline | National Review



.... now....what is the value that Hunter Biden brought to the company?



Before you next post, you should consider asking yourself” Do I really want the word ‘moron’ in my obituary?”

That's a question you need to ask yourself, Chickie Baby. Moron, promoter of Russian propaganda. Claimed to be smart but couldn't tell divisive progaganda designed to undermine and destroy the nation and promulgated by Russia from reality. The only question remaining is are you a willing agent of Russia, or an unwitting fool?

You fools keep deflecting back to Hunter Biden, who has NOTHING to do with Donald J. Trump trying to extort investigations against his perceived political rivals using taxpayer money. If you want to investigate Hunter Biden, you go right ahead, but don't howl when the next Democratic President opens investigations on Jared, Ivanka, Eric or Don Jr.

Eric has already been investigated by the FBI for fraud in skimming millions from the money he raised on behalf of St. Jude's. Ivanka is currently under investigation in Vancouver for bank fraud in the construction of the Trump Hotel there, the $500 million loan Don Jr. negotiated with the Chinese government for the Trump Indonesia looks hinky as hell.

And while you complain about my profanity, you voted for a man who refers to Third World countries as "shit hole nations", who says he grabs women by the "pussy", and who cursed and swore in a speech to the Boy Scouts of America, and who uses profane language every day on TV. You worship the man who has coursened the public discourse with his own profanity.

Of course you're a fool and a hypocrite. Probably a product of home schooling. Spoon fed right wing propaganda by your parents from kindergarten age, and utterly lacking in the critical thinking skills they teach in public schools to help you discern fact from bullshit.

"You fools keep deflecting back to Hunter Biden, who has NOTHING to do with Donald J. Trump trying to extort investigations against his perceived political rivals using taxpayer money."


I keep thinking that nobody could post anything as stupid and easily refutable as this.....then, you do.

First,....here's Biden doing exactly that:




The bribe at 02:15


Biden sidesteps questions about corruption;







Here are three Democrat Senators, the same:

....we have proof that the Democrats did exactly what they claim was a crime when Trump does it…..


"Dear Editor:

In May, CNN reported that Sens. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., Richard Durbin, D-Ill., and Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., wrote a letter to Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, expressing concern at the closing of four investigations they said were critical to the Mueller probe. In the letter, they implied that their support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine was at stake.
Describing themselves as “strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine,” the Democratic senators declared, “We have supported [the] capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these [democratic] principles to avoid the ire of President Trump,” before demanding Lutsenko “reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation with this important investigation.”
https://hudsonreporter.com/2019/10/...o-investigate-trump-in-may-2018-please-share/






“… in May, CNN reported that Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) and Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) wrote a letter to Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, expressing concern at the closing of four investigations they said were critical to the Mueller probe. In the letter, they implied that their support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine was at stake. Describing themselves as “strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine,” the Democratic senators declared, “We have supported [the] capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these [democratic] principles to avoid the ire of President Trump,” before demanding Lutsenko “reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation with this important investigation.”

So, it’s okay for Democratic senators to encourage Ukraine to investigate Trump, but it’s not okay for the president to allegedly encourage Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden?”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...tigation-might-do-more-hurt-biden-than-trump/




Democrats threatened the Ukraine should it fail to support their attack on their political enemy.

Sounds just like what they're claiming Trump did.




The letter from Menendez, Durbin and Leahy is here:



https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/...cutor of Ukraine on Mueller investigation.pdf





If I ever needed a brain transplant I’d want yours….’cause I’d want one that had never been used.

You can't even think for yourself enough to respond to a post. You cut and past your replies.

Let me repeat:

JOE BIDEN FIRED THE PROSECUTOR WHO WASN'T INVESTIGATING OR PROSECUTING BURISMA, NOT BECAUSE HE WAS. HUNTER BIDEN WAS NOT UNDER INVESTIGATION WHEN JOE FIRED THE PROSECUTOR. LINDSAY GRAHAM AND MITCH McCONNELL VOTED TO SEND BIDEN TO THE UKRAINE TO FIRE THE PROSECUTOR.

None of this has anything to do with Donald Trump's attempted extortion of the Ukrainian government to investigate the Bidens. If someone steals all of the money out of your bank account, you can't go to the bank with a gun and rob the bank, and then claim you were just trying to get the money back. You're guilty of bank robbery.

Or as my mother taught me as a child "Two wrongs don't make a right".

What makes you imagine (I almost said 'think') you need prove how stupid you are in each and every post?

Most folks already caught on.




Biden used the American fisc to save his son and the company that bribed the Bidens, from investigation.

Hunter Biden, drug addict, tossed from the military, ignorant of the energy industry, not known to speak the language of the Ukraine, .....but worth $millions to Burisma...


"The bank records show that, on most months when Burisma money flowed, two wire transfers of $83,333.33 each were sent to the Rosemont Seneca–connected account on the same day. The same Rosemont Seneca–linked account typically then would pay Hunter Biden one or more payments ranging from $5,000 to $25,000 each. Prosecutors reviewed internal company documents and wanted to interview Hunter Biden and Archer about why they had received such payments, according to interviews.”
Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived


Hunter timeline: Hunter Biden: The Most Comprehensive Timeline | National Review



.... now....what is the value that Hunter Biden brought to the company that made him worth $83,000 a month to them?


And why did Putin 'donate' $145 million to Hillary's piggy bank?

And why did China put $1.5 billion into the Biden family kitty????



Warning:
....if this is the first time you've tried to think you could wind up with an aneurysm!

 

[Terri4Trump]

The 2020 election will give the voters a stark choice of what direction they want the US to go in. Socialism or no change, keep the peace and prosperity.
If the socialists win what happens to the "deep state"? Will they "resist" or agree to the government control of everything? Never-mind. I think I answered my own question.

Thats why Trump will win

 

[alang1216]

"It is hard to respond to some unattributed text but some of those testifying were at the Ambassador level, hardly middle-level bureaucrats."

Which of the 'witnesses' were constitutionally authorized to make foreign policy for America?

Which of the witnesses MADE foreign policy? Which tried to execute US foreign policy, made in the interests of the country, before it was co-opted by an cadre working for the personal interests of the President?

It is the reason they were called as 'witnesses,' you dunce.

The PRESIDENT didn't follow their instructions!!!!!




. Witnesses called by the Democrat Intelligence Committee showed their anger at Trump for not following their instructions…
Their job is to carry out whatever policy the President determines......either that or resign.



“The experts don’t like to be challenged—especially by non-expert voters or the politicians they elect to limit administrative state power. Here, finally, we come to the “truest cause, though least in speech” of the impeachment freight train: the administrative state is striking back at a mortal threat. As Marini explained in a recent speech,

Many great scandals arise not as a means of exposing corruption, but as a means of attacking political foes while obscuring the political differences that are at issue. This is especially likely to occur in the aftermath of elections that threaten the authority of an established order. In such circumstances, scandal provides a way for defenders of the status quo to undermine the legitimacy of those who have been elected on a platform of challenging the status quo—diluting, as a consequence, the authority of the electorate.”
The Empire Strikes Back



The only real crime being pursued is Trump having defeated the career criminal.

The witnesses were called to say what they knew. Any anger came from seeing the interests of the US playing second fiddle to a presidential campaign.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Is The “Deep State” A Fable?

No…it’s a fact.




1.Government school grads will deny the fact 'til their dying day.
There are two reasons why government school grads regularly claim that there is no “Deep State:”

a.They are trying to obviate the argument that there is a cabal in our government that is aimed at reversing the 2016 election.

b.They are ignorant of the Progressive doctrine, from Woodrow Wilson on, that government should be run by unelected bureaucrats who will do a better job than the deplorables.

“Rather than the people being governed by elected representatives, the three branches, “Woodrow Wilson gave the administrative state its rationale: he held that government by nonpartisan, public-spirited, Ivy League–trained experts making rules in such agencies as the Federal Trade Commission or the Interstate Commerce Commission would be infinitely wiser, more efficient, and more responsive to changing conditions and the evolving spirit of the age than the Framers’ government of limited and separated powers, a clockwork relic in the electricity age.

….ever since the New Deal supersized Wilson’s system, administrative agencies have multiplied like the Sorcerer’s Apprentice’s brooms, so that federal regulations now spill out of 240 volumes—and not only overregulated businessmen, infrastructure planners, and a few law professors, but also Supreme Court justices, have begun to wonder by what legitimate authority unelected bureaucrats can make rules like a legislature, carry them out like an executive, and adjudicate and punish infractions of them like a judiciary, usurping powers that the Constitution places solely in the Congress, the president, and the courts, with no two powers concentrated in the same hands.” The Court Moves Right
The Court Moves Right




2. Government school grads have been totally weaned away from the Founder’s view that free citizens elect….vote into office….those who rule them. Hence, the indoctrinated deny that they are the sheep being herded by unelected bureaucrats, diplomats, career government workers who are in charge….the Deep State.

And the Deep State….which clearly exists….is fighting to prove that the great unwashed must be chastised for electing a candidate not of their choosing…..giving us, first Russiagate, and now Ukrainegate.




3. “People capable of feeling shame would not have immediately followed up the Russiagate hoax fiasco with another transparently phony—and in “substance” nearly identical—attempt to remove President Trump from office, overturn the 2016 election, and shower deplorable-Americans with contempt and hatred. But our ruling elites have no shame.”
The Empire Strikes Back

4. Those people….described here…..ran, and testified at the recent Democrat committee hearing, mislabeled as the ‘Impeachment Inquiry,’…

“Beginning in the late 19th century and intensifying in the mid-1960s, elites inside and outside our government have centralized authority in a “fourth branch,” the executive branch’s agencies and bureaucracies. Marini refers to those institutions, the people in them, and their governing philosophy and methods as “the administrative state.” Administrative state rule is fundamentally anti-democratic and anti-constitutional, intended to be rule by “expert consensus.” Ibid.



This is the Deep State.

It claims to be the real American government.

It is and remains a conspiracy theory. A Deep State by definition is deep, hidden and thus cannot be proved. The closest to a deep state was exposed recently, when Rudy and the Three Amigos engaged in seeking dirt on the Biden's under the direction of The President.