The 'Deep State:' Fact Or Fable

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    Shocking!! What third-world country do you live in?
     
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    Irony Alert: The Puritans essentially lived in a theocracy which ran just about every aspect of their lives.
     
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    That post says so much Truth about you.
     
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    Psst the deep state is nothing more than the people who go to work day to day and are government employees

    they are repubs, demos, and anyone in between being paid to go to work on your taxpayer dollars

    nothing nefarious about it but when the president becomes corrupt like Trump is then its time to get rid of him

    MAGA get rid of Trump

    People talk about Biden son making money off his dad's position but when Ivanka get deals in China during the same time China and the US are in a trade war

    Nothing to see here

    All Trump children will be making money now that there Dad has some juice

    we just haven't heard all the stories yet but they will come

    still it the same for all political persuasions

    political influence catch it
     
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    Well said.... Every time we point this out the sycophants of the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Left claims we are blowing smoke. Meanwhile history proves us correct.
     
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    Strictly Alex Jones nonsense. Granted, there are lots of people out there doing whatever the can to undermine the Trump administration - often things that are unethical and illegal. But there's no cabal, no secret conspiracy. There's just a lot of people who really, really hate Trump and his supporters. If you guys didn't take such joy in being in-your-face jackasses, that might not be the case.
     
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    I agree, but Foreign aid is approve and appropriated by Congress. What Trumpybear is accused of is making private demands of the Ukraine using the bipartisan foreign aid passed by both parties. Worst still is that demand would have been used against one of the parties that voted for the foreign aid. That's a poison pill. Why would any party approve foreign aid if that aid could be used as leverage against them?
     
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    Obama Didn’t Give Iran ‘150 Billion in Cash’

    As a candidate during the 2016 campaign, President Donald Trump criticized the international agreement to curb Iran’s nuclear weapons’ program — formally called the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action — that had been adopted the year before. He suggested that the U.S. had returned $150 billion to Iran as part of the deal.

    That’s not true. We’ve written about this issue before. PolitiFact and the Washington Post have, too.

    But Trump has repeated the claim as recently as December, when he tweeted: “The Democrats and President Obama gave Iran 150 Billion Dollars and got nothing, but they can’t give 5 Billion Dollars for National Security and a Wall?”

    Trump’s bogus claim now has been repeated in a meme that references the president’s declaration of a national emergency to redirect federal funds for a proposed wall on the southern border.

    The meme, which has been shared 149,000 times on Facebook, mentions the recent lawsuit brought against the Trump administration by 16 states to block the national emergency. The meme says: “So, when Obama bypassed the Congress while giving Iran 150 billion in cash, how many States had sued him?”

    First of all, former President Barack Obama didn’t give “150 billion in cash” to Iran.

    The nuclear agreement included China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom, the United States and the European Union, so Obama didn’t carry out any part of it on his own.


    Obama Didn't Give Iran '150 Billion in Cash'

    "It’s important to know that little of that money was under the control of the United States or any U.S. bank. Most of it, Habibi said, was in central and commercial banks overseas. Furthermore, it was Iran’s money to begin with, not a payment from any government to buy Iran’s cooperation.'

    Donald Trump: Iran got $150 billion and $1.8 billion in cash

    The $1.8 billion

    The Congressional Research Service, the nonpartisan analytic arm of Congress, reviewed this cash transfer in a 2018 report. It gave a total of $1.7 billion.

    That was the amount that U.S. and Iranian negotiators settled on to resolve an arms contract between the United States and Iran that predated the Iranian revolution in 1979. Iran had paid for military equipment, and it was never delivered.

    As of 1990, there were $400 million in that account. Negotiators agreed that accrued interest would add $1.3 billion to the amount, which is a lot of money — but 25 years is a long time for interest to build up the balance.

    Donald Trump: Iran got $150 billion and $1.8 billion in cash

    The Asian queen of disingenuous runs her mouth once again.
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