Obama is a SELLOUT!!!!!!!!!

[NYcarbineer]

If you want something to talk about why not talk about the idiocy of all those on the right who said that Obama supporters are just sheep who defend him no matter what he does.

 

[Immanuel]

Ok, so when certain people on the left called you rightwingers racists for criticizing Obama, and you rightwingers thought they were assholes for doing so,

what you really thought was, gee I can't wait to be an asshole like them!!

Is that about it?

Well, mission accomplished. Although in the Rabbi's case that would be redundant.

I think you are missing the point. The Rabbi is not being an asshole about this unless of course you consider pointing out hypocrisy makes him an asshole.

He was kidding around with ABS for crying out loud.

Immie

The Rabbi is not capable of not being an asshole.

Hehehe,

Everyone has opinions. Sometimes, I find what The Rabbi writes to be... funny. Then again there are times when I feel he is just plain instigating shit.

By the way, there are some on the left who are not capable of not being assholes either. My side does not have sole possession of that honor.

Immie

 

[Revere]

Actually, Obama supporters are progressives who don't live in the real world when it comes to what most Americans want.

Fanatics who want more of the welfare state despite the fact that the welfare state is collapsing at every level of government and all over the world.

 

[Immanuel]

If you want something to talk about why not talk about the idiocy of all those on the right who said that Obama supporters are just sheep who defend him no matter what he does.

I don't know of anyone that said that. I know that Bush supporters were called sheep an awful lot.

It really does go both ways. I know for a fact that plenty on the right accused Obama supporters of only supporting him because of his color and they said that was racist as well. We could talk about that too. The fact was that the 2008 campaign did have a lot to do with race and I suspect there are some who would only or would not at all vote for President Obama because of his race. However, I do not think that was a factor in everyone's decisions.

Immie

 

[Avatar4321]

The truth is 50% of those who claim to be for the things that Obama wanted to get done, didn't get off their dead asses and get to the polls. Now people who didn't do their part are condemning the guy for working out a deal that yes makes most of American sick, as 68% of America is against giving Million and Billion airs tax cuts while the rest of the country is getting screwed. The problem is 50% of those people either didn't vote or in many cases voted against their own best interest.

Being against everything that goes to help the average American as the Republicans have show they are yet for things who only help the trickle down theory of the ultra rich will have to defend these positions, unlike they had to do in the last election.

They no longer can say they were for middle class tax cuts as they voted against them and held the middle class hostage to the greed of the conservative right in the top 10%.
Make no mistake that republicans which many belong to the middle class are willing to help the rich so they can get control of the congress to move the agenda of what they want, religious far right thinking. Whats really dumb is those in the middle did not or were not able to understand that by not voting or voting for the right is only going to move our country further to the far right.

Obama did what he had to do for America and the republicans did what they had to do for their BASE as BUSH put it, help those who don't need help.

How am I screwed by someone else keeping their money? They earned it. Let them have it.

 

[Avatar4321]

And the meltdown continues.... The hardcore Fabian Socialist Left has gone totally unhinged because Obama isn't left enough....

Tell me about it. More Government control in the lives of the American people and a constant attack on our economy and it's not left enough.

 

[The T]

Actually, Obama supporters are progressives who don't live in the real world when it comes to what most Americans want.

Fanatics who want more of the welfare state despite the fact that the welfare state is collapsing at every level of government and all over the world.

And the American brand wants to travel down the same failed path...because the other just didn't do it correctly. What does history have upon arrogance anyway?

 

[Samson]

heh...

I cannot help but recall the infamous: "Read My Lips: No New Taxes."

Words that Doomed Bush Sr. after he passes new taxes!

Now...Obama says "Read My Lips: NEW TAXES" and is doomed because .....

There are NO NEW TAXES!!!

OH the IRONY

 

[Avatar4321]

Oh. I see.
If I criticize the Presidsent for policy NOT to my liking, I am a racist.
If YOU criticize the Presdient for policy NOT to your liking, it is justified cirticism.

Yep. You have it exactly.

In a discussion with our fellow boardmember, Chris, he admitted something I dont think he intended to.

See, to the left, racist doesn't mean what the dictionary says it means. Racist means Republican. That is literally the definition they put to it.

They do this to intentionally decieve people. Because they know it's an emotional label. They dont tell people that they've changed the definition in their mind and when they mean racist they simply mean Republican.

So here we have ABS criticizing the President. If criticizing the President was as racist as rdean and many on the left seem to pretend, they would be attacking him for being a racist. But they arent. Why?

It's because their definition for racist is Republican. ABS could go out and start killing blacks, hispanics, asians and any other race or ethnic group he didn't like. He could go on racial tirades. But as long as he isn't a Republican, he isn't a racist to them.

It's quite evil really. It's why I dislike the mentality of the left that corrupts even the language we use to get their way.

 

[Avatar4321]

The truth is that people are stupid, and they sell out the country to get what they want.
Million and billion-airs are people who make over 250,000 in many cases in income they take out of their investments or businesses. Many are way over 250,000 and make millions each and every year.
The truth is that only 600,000 businesses are started each year and 2/3's of them non employee corp's set up for nothing but to save taxes owed on their income. 2 million households are in the top 5% of America's wealthy, yet only account for under 200,000 new business in a year.

So we give the money to the top to start new companies so they don't have to put up their own income and if they are successful they grow their wealth and if they go tit's up they have another tax deduction so next year they can hang onto even more taxes they would owe.

The truth is those who voted for republicans sold out the country, put us in for more debt for our children all in an attempt to push their far right religious beliefs. and those in the middle help them get it done along with those who were too lazy to get off their ass and vote.

Truth is most of America is all about being for yourself as long as it doesn't hurt them right this minute. Tea party my ass, you dumb asses just sold the house you lived in for 10 cents on the dollar and smiling all the way to the bridge. Run on cutting taxes and then turn around and help the very same people you supported (the filthy rich) rape the country even more, THAT IS WHAT YOU CALL REA DUMB ASSES.

Maybe it's just me. But I dont really see people who provide work for thousands of people and essentially keep families fed by providing goods and services to the community as raping society.

No, the people raping society are the people who think they are smarter or better than others. Who produce nothing of value for other people. Who corrupt people. Who burden others rather than supporting themselves.

In other words, politicians and those who seek to gain from the taxpayers. Such as yourself.

 

[Avatar4321]

I think the 40 percenters who pay $0 should just say thank you and then STFU.

And then next year they should be paying more by working hard to better themselves and their families.

 

[Avatar4321]

It does get tiresome doesn't it? His inference that because "he served" he has more of a right to speak than the rest of us. Makes me think he doesn't even know why "he served".

Benedict Arnold served too. I wish they would remember that.

Not everyone serves through the military. Is their service somehow less valid?

If you served. Great. I salute you for doing so. But if you want to enter into the arena of ideas, then your going to be judged on the merits of your ideas, not the length of military service.

Past military service doesn't excuse bad policies now or in the future.

 

[bag]

Extension of the tax cuts for the wealthy for 2 years, extension of unemployment 13 months.

Failure to get rid of DADT, yet extending our debt for the rest of the time he's in office.

Wealth growth for most of the country? 11 percent. Wealth growth for the top percent? 237 percent.

Bush Jr. tried to do the same thing, but he got caught with his pants down 6 months prior to leaving office.

Obama proving he's a sellout like Jr? Priceless.

his hands are tied, and he's trying to save the middle class.

 

[Avatar4321]

There was a time when I defended Obama. That was then. This is now. Obama has shown himself to be a corporatist puppet who takes two baby steps forward for every giant step back and I, for one, am fed up with his bullshit.

Those darn evil corporations. Need a boogyman don't we?

It's funny that parnterships and LLCs do business too. Sole proprietorships as well. I've asked many times why it is that Corporations are evil yet these other entitities aren't. Ive never seen a very satisfactory answer. In fact, I dont know that Ive ever seen an answer.

Why are corporations evil? What's bad about employing thousands of people and providing goods and services to the public?

 

[Avatar4321]

Then it shouldn't be hard for you to produce posts of the OP calling someone a racist for criticizing Obama for something that has nothing to do with race.

Are you honestly saying you've never seen any of them?

Holy crap there threads started like every other month or so by left leaning posters making the claim that the real opposition to Obama is solely because he is black.

And you've never ever seen any of these?

 

[Avatar4321]

If you want something to talk about why not talk about the idiocy of all those on the right who said that Obama supporters are just sheep who defend him no matter what he does.

I think when they talk about them, they are talking about people like TM and rdean and such who do defend him no matter what he does.

 

[Avatar4321]

his hands are tied, and he's trying to save the middle class.

He isn't trying to save us. If he wanted to save us he would get out our way and let us live our lives.

 

[shintao]

Actually, Obama supporters are progressives who don't live in the real world when it comes to what most Americans want.

Fanatics who want more of the welfare state despite the fact that the welfare state is collapsing at every level of government and all over the world.

Republicans are so far out in the country they have to pump them sunlight. We have seen your real world of torture, rape, murder, borrow & spend us into a "collapsing" black hole, give to the rich & fuck the poor. That maybe your real world dude, you just picked the wrong country to have it in. Now toodle along................

 

[shintao]

his hands are tied, and he's trying to save the middle class.

He isn't trying to save us. If he wanted to save us he would get out our way and let us live our lives.

LOL! Liberals were out of the way for 6 straight years. You gave us 911, 2 wars, 1/2 million people murdered and maimed, hundreds tortured and raped, trillions in debt, turned the gulf into a cess pool, and a recession.

I must ask, what should I expect next when we get out of your way?

 

[Avatar4321]

Actually, Obama supporters are progressives who don't live in the real world when it comes to what most Americans want.

Fanatics who want more of the welfare state despite the fact that the welfare state is collapsing at every level of government and all over the world.

Republicans are so far out in the country they have to pump them sunlight. We have seen your real world of torture, rape, murder, borrow & spend us into a "collapsing" black hole, give to the rich & fuck the poor. That maybe your real world dude, you just picked the wrong country to have it in. Now toodle along................

See the only problem here is you just described the left to a tee.