Most Palestinians Prefer Israel To A Palestinian State

[MJB12741]

Hmmm! So, would you prefer Jordan's approach to achieving a lasting peace from Palestinians? And who knows Palestinians better than Jordan? You sure do make me think that is best.

You make it all seem so complicated with mountains of dead Palestinians. Really all has Israel has to do is just whack their leaders & keep on whacking their new ones until the Palestinian people want peace with Israel.

So how many Pallies do you think need to be whacked before they'll live in peace?

Israel has been playing whack-a-mole for over 60 years. How long can this take?

 

[JStone]

You make it all seem so complicated with mountains of dead Palestinians. Really all has Israel has to do is just whack their leaders & keep on whacking their new ones until the Palestinian people want peace with Israel.

So how many Pallies do you think need to be whacked before they'll live in peace?

Israel has been playing whack-a-mole for over 60 years. How long can this take?

Israel has been succeeding for 60 years. Pals are the most fucked up losers in the world.

Warren Buffett...

We believe generally in the United States, we believe in ourselves and what a young country can achieve. Israel, since 1948, now a major factor in commerce and in the world. It's a smaller replica of what has been accomplished here and I think Americans admire that. They feel good about societies that are on the move.

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[P F Tinmore]

Hmmm! So, would you prefer Jordan's approach to achieving a lasting peace from Palestinians? And who knows Palestinians better than Jordan? You sure do make me think that is best.

You make it all seem so complicated with mountains of dead Palestinians. Really all has Israel has to do is just whack their leaders & keep on whacking their new ones until the Palestinian people want peace with Israel.

Israel has been playing whack-a-mole for over 60 years. How long can this take?

The Palestinian's strategy seems to be working well.

 

[JStone]

Hmmm! So, would you prefer Jordan's approach to achieving a lasting peace from Palestinians? And who knows Palestinians better than Jordan? You sure do make me think that is best.

Israel has been playing whack-a-mole for over 60 years. How long can this take?

The Palestinian's strategy seems to be working well.

The Misery of Arabs/Apple R&D In Israel

Apple will open a research and development center in Israel that will focus on semiconductors

The R&D center in Herzliya, Israel’s version of Silicon Valley, would be Apple’s first outside California

Earlier this week, Israeli media reported Apple was in advanced talks to buy Anobit, an Israeli maker of flash storage technology, for $400-$500 million

It is so sad and frustrating to see APPLE investing in Israel, while we as Arabs are not able to attract these investments to our countries! I don’t know what our leaders are doing to create proper environment for such investments!

I would prefer seeing APPLE as well as MICROSOFT having their R&D in Lebanon or any other Arab Country instead of being in ISRAEL!

WISH THE ARAB LEADERS WILL WAKE UP AND CARE FOR DEVELOPING THEIR COUNTRIES AND SOCIETIES INSTEAD OF APPLYING DICTATORSHIP AND KILL THEIR PEOPLE!
The Misery of Arabs ! Apple R&D in ISRAEL! | What do You Think ?

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Apple today confirmed earlier reports it has acquired Israel-based flash memory startup Anobit....which makes flash memory technology found in the iPhone, iPad, and MacBook Air.. The deal was reported to be worth $400 million to $500 million.
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[ima]

I would be all for nuking Jordan, then putting Israel there once the debris is cleared.

 

[JStone]

Washington Post: Why Palestinians Want To Be Israelis

One of the givens of the Middle East peace process is that Palestinians are eager to be free of rule by Israel and to live in a state of their own. That's why a new poll of the Arabs of East Jerusalem is striking: It shows that more of those people actually would prefer to be citizens of Israel than of a Palestinian state.

The awkward fact is that the 270,000 Arabs who live in East Jerusalem may not be very enthusiastic about joining Palestine. The survey, which was designed and supervised by former State Department Middle East researcher David Pollock, found that only 30 percent said they would prefer to be citizens of Palestine in a two-state solution, while 35 percent said they would choose Israeli citizenship. (The rest said they didn't know or refused to answer.) Forty percent said they would consider moving to another neighborhood in order to become a citizen of Israel rather than Palestine, and 54 percent said that if their neighborhood were assigned to Israel, they would not move to Palestine.

The reasons for these attitudes are pretty understandable, even healthy. Arabs say they prefer Israel's jobs, schools, health care and welfare benefits to those of a Palestinian state -- and their nationalism is not strong enough for them to set aside these advantages in order to live in an Arab country.
PostPartisan - Why Palestinians want to be Israeli citizens

 

[MJB12741]

Is that why most Palestinians would rather be Israeli citizens than to live in their own Palestinian State?

Hmmm! So, would you prefer Jordan's approach to achieving a lasting peace from Palestinians? And who knows Palestinians better than Jordan? You sure do make me think that is best.

Israel has been playing whack-a-mole for over 60 years. How long can this take?

The Palestinian's strategy seems to be working well.

 

[MJB12741]

Hello! You still here Tinmore? Sure hope you are okay.

Is that why most Palestinians would rather be Israeli citizens than to live in their own Palestinian State?

Hmmm! So, would you prefer Jordan's approach to achieving a lasting peace from Palestinians? And who knows Palestinians better than Jordan? You sure do make me think that is best.

The Palestinian's strategy seems to be working well.

 

[JStone]

Hmmm! So, would you prefer Jordan's approach to achieving a lasting peace from Palestinians? And who knows Palestinians better than Jordan? You sure do make me think that is best.

Israel has been playing whack-a-mole for over 60 years. How long can this take?

The Palestinian's strategy seems to be working well.

Excellent!

BBC: How Israel Became A High-Tech Hub

Tiny Israel, a country embroiled in conflicts for decades, has managed to transform itself from a stretch of farmland into a high-tech wonder

Israel currently has almost 4,000 active technology start-ups - more than any other country outside the United States, according to Israel Venture Capital Research Centre

In 2010 alone the flow of venture capital amounted to $884m (£558m).

The result: high-tech exports from Israel are valued at about $18.4bn a year, making up more than 45% of Israel's exports, according to the Central Bureau of Statistics

Israel is a world leader in terms of research and development spending as a percentage of the economy; it's top in both the number of start-ups and engineers as a proportion of the population; and it's first in per capita venture capital investment. Not bad for a country of some eight million people - fewer than, say, Moscow or New York.

Over just a few decades, Israeli start-ups have developed groundbreaking technologies in areas such as computing, clean technology and life sciences, to name a few.
BBC News - How Israel turned itself into a high-tech hub

The Economist Magazine: Arab World Self-Doomed To Failure

WHAT went wrong with the Arab world? Why is it so stuck behind the times? It is not an obviously unlucky region. Fatly endowed with oil, and with its people sharing a rich cultural, religious and linguistic heritage, it is faced neither with endemic poverty nor with ethnic conflict. But, with barely an exception, its autocratic rulers, whether presidents or kings, give up their authority only when they die; its elections are a sick joke; half its people are treated as lesser legal and economic beings, and more than half its young, burdened by joblessness and stifled by conservative religious tradition, are said to want to get out of the place as soon as they can.

One in five Arabs still live on less than $2 a day. And, over the past 20 years, growth in income per head, at an annual rate of 0.5%, was lower than anywhere else in the world except sub-Saharan Africa. At this rate, it will take the average Arab 140 years to double his income, a target that some regions are set to reach in less than ten years. Stagnant growth, together with a fast-rising population, means vanishing jobs. Around 12m people, or 15% of the labour force, are already unemployed, and on present trends the number could rise to 25m by 2010.

Freedom. This deficit explains many of the fundamental things that are wrong with the Arab world: the survival of absolute autocracies; the holding of bogus elections; confusion between the executive and the judiciary (the report points out the close linguistic link between the two in Arabic); constraints on the media and on civil society; and a patriarchal, intolerant, sometimes suffocating social environment. The great wave of democratisation that has opened up so much of the world over the past 15 years seems to have left the Arabs untouched. Democracy is occasionally offered, but as a concession, not as a right. Freedom of expression and freedom of association are both sharply limited. Freedom House, an American-based monitor of political and civil rights, records that no Arab country has genuinely free media, and only three have “partly free”. The rest are not free

Knowledge. “If God were to humiliate a human being,” wrote Imam Ali bin abi Taleb in the sixth century, “He would deny him knowledge.” Although the Arabs spend a higher percentage of GDP on education than any other developing region, it is not, it seems, well spent. The quality of education has deteriorated pitifully, and there is a severe mismatch between the labour market and the education system. Adult illiteracy rates have declined but are still very high: 65m adults are illiterate, almost two-thirds of them women. Some 10m children still have no schooling at all. One of the gravest results of their poor education is that the Arabs, who once led the world in science, are dropping ever further behind in scientific research and in information technology. Investment in research and development is less than one-seventh of the world average. Only 0.6% of the population uses the Internet, and 1.2% have personal computers.

Women's status. The one thing that every outsider knows about the Arab world is that it does not treat its women as full citizens. How can a society prosper when it stifles half its productive potential? After all, even though women's literacy rates have trebled in the past 30 years, one in every two Arab women still can neither read nor write. Their participation in their countries' political and economic life is the lowest in the world.
Arab development: Self-doomed to failure | The Economist

 

[P F Tinmore]

Is that why most Palestinians would rather be Israeli citizens than to live in their own Palestinian State?

Hmmm! So, would you prefer Jordan's approach to achieving a lasting peace from Palestinians? And who knows Palestinians better than Jordan? You sure do make me think that is best.

The Palestinian's strategy seems to be working well.

From someone who has no clue about Palestinian strategies.

 

[JStone]

Washington Post: Why Palestinians Want To Be Israelis

One of the givens of the Middle East peace process is that Palestinians are eager to be free of rule by Israel and to live in a state of their own. That's why a new poll of the Arabs of East Jerusalem is striking: It shows that more of those people actually would prefer to be citizens of Israel than of a Palestinian state.

The awkward fact is that the 270,000 Arabs who live in East Jerusalem may not be very enthusiastic about joining Palestine. The survey, which was designed and supervised by former State Department Middle East researcher David Pollock, found that only 30 percent said they would prefer to be citizens of Palestine in a two-state solution, while 35 percent said they would choose Israeli citizenship. (The rest said they didn't know or refused to answer.) Forty percent said they would consider moving to another neighborhood in order to become a citizen of Israel rather than Palestine, and 54 percent said that if their neighborhood were assigned to Israel, they would not move to Palestine.

The reasons for these attitudes are pretty understandable, even healthy. Arabs say they prefer Israel's jobs, schools, health care and welfare benefits to those of a Palestinian state -- and their nationalism is not strong enough for them to set aside these advantages in order to live in an Arab country.
PostPartisan - Why Palestinians want to be Israeli citizens

 

[MJB12741]

So who's fault is it that you have no clue about Palestinian strategies?

Is that
why most Palestinians would rather be Israeli citizens than to live in their own Palestinian State?

The Palestinian's strategy seems to be working well.

From someone who has no clue about Palestinian strategies.

 

[JStone]

So who's fault is it that you have no clue about Palestinian strategies?

Is that
why most Palestinians would rather be Israeli citizens than to live in their own Palestinian State?

From someone who has no clue about Palestinian strategies.

Strategies to be the most fucked up losers in history?

Historian Bernard Lewis

If the peoples of the Middle East continue on their present path, the suicide bomber may become a metaphor for the whole region, and there will be no escape from a downward spiral of hate and spite, rage and self-pity, poverty and oppression.

 

[ima]

Is that why most Palestinians would rather be Israeli citizens than to live in their own Palestinian State?

No, it's because they'd rather not be in prison, that's all.

 

[Lipush]

Is that why most Palestinians would rather be Israeli citizens than to live in their own Palestinian State?

No, it's because they'd rather not be in prison, that's all.

wow, the stupidity. It's an Israeli interest to put the Palestinian in their own land, once it's arrives. The Israeli Arabs will be more then welcome to join them there. The Israeli population gain nothing from Palestinians saying they wanna be Israelis. the other way around.

 

[JStone]

Washington Post: Why Palestinians Want To Be Israelis

One of the givens of the Middle East peace process is that Palestinians are eager to be free of rule by Israel and to live in a state of their own. That's why a new poll of the Arabs of East Jerusalem is striking: It shows that more of those people actually would prefer to be citizens of Israel than of a Palestinian state.

The awkward fact is that the 270,000 Arabs who live in East Jerusalem may not be very enthusiastic about joining Palestine. The survey, which was designed and supervised by former State Department Middle East researcher David Pollock, found that only 30 percent said they would prefer to be citizens of Palestine in a two-state solution, while 35 percent said they would choose Israeli citizenship. (The rest said they didn't know or refused to answer.) Forty percent said they would consider moving to another neighborhood in order to become a citizen of Israel rather than Palestine, and 54 percent said that if their neighborhood were assigned to Israel, they would not move to Palestine.

The reasons for these attitudes are pretty understandable, even healthy. Arabs say they prefer Israel's jobs, schools, health care and welfare benefits to those of a Palestinian state -- and their nationalism is not strong enough for them to set aside these advantages in order to live in an Arab country.
PostPartisan - Why Palestinians want to be Israeli citizens

 

[MJB12741]

I agree with Ima. What right does Israel have to keep the Palestinian squatters captives with peace offerings, a security fence & land concessions to them?

Is that why most Palestinians would rather be Israeli citizens than to live in their own Palestinian State?

No, it's because they'd rather not be in prison, that's all.

 

[ima]

I agree with Ima. What right does Israel have to keep the Palestinian squatters captives with peace offerings, a security fence & land concessions to them?

Is that why most Palestinians would rather be Israeli citizens than to live in their own Palestinian State?

No, it's because they'd rather not be in prison, that's all.

peace offerings=prison grub
a maximum security fence=prison walls
land concessions=the yard


The peace offerings are also bullets, which they send at high velocity towards children throwing rocks. There's nothing like shooting children to bring on a peace deal!

 

[JStone]

I agree with Ima. What right does Israel have to keep the Palestinian squatters captives with peace offerings, a security fence & land concessions to them?

No, it's because they'd rather not be in prison, that's all.

peace offerings=prison grub
a maximum security fence=prison walls
land concessions=the yard


The peace offerings are also bullets, which they send at high velocity towards children throwing rocks. There's nothing like shooting children to bring on a peace deal!

Pestilinians like killing children with an iron chain

A 27-year-old mother of five was bludgeoned to death with an iron chain by her father last week in Gaza in what human rights groups report was an honor killing.

According to police in Gaza, the father, Jawdat al-Najar, heard his daughter Fadia, who had divorced in 2005, speaking on the phone with a man. He believed she was having a relationship with him. Police say al-Najar became enraged and beat her to death; her body was brought to a hospital where officials said she died of a skull fracture

The woman was beaten to death in the northern Gaza neighborhood of Jebalya on Thursday night. The father called police and confessed to the murder.

According to investigators for the Gaza-based Al Mezan Center for Human Rights, the father and his three sons were taken into police custody. They said the killing "was carried out on grounds related to 'preserving' the honor of the family."

The Palestinian Center for Human Rights, another Gaza-based organization, said hospital forensic reports show the woman's body showed signs of torture and that she suffered a skull fracture from being hit by an iron chain.
Rights groups decry Gaza 'honor killing' - CNN

Winston Churchill...

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.

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[MJB12741]

I am so glad we agree that Israel must abandon their failed Zionist agenda & find a way to free the Palestinians back to their indigenous homelands where they will receive the Arab love, justice & respect they are so well acccustomed to & so well deserve.

I agree with Ima. What right does Israel have to keep the Palestinian squatters captives with peace offerings, a security fence & land concessions to them?

No, it's because they'd rather not be in prison, that's all.

peace offerings=prison grub
a maximum security fence=prison walls
land concessions=the yard


The peace offerings are also bullets, which they send at high velocity towards children throwing rocks. There's nothing like shooting children to bring on a peace deal!