Mistakes Atheists Make

[C_Clayton_Jones]

God is sovereign means that He is in complete control of the Universe. Providence is God's plan being carried out.

Does this mean God cause evil to happen?

No. Evil is from sin which are done with free will. God allows it to happen.

Which is confirmation of the fact that 'god' doesn't exist as perceived by theists.

 

[AtheistBuddah]

Hehe not my problem if you believe. I am just a servant.

Likely the same drivel given by Christians during the Inquisition, Salem Witch Trials and other atrocities to justify their mental illness.

And we feel really bad about the fact that those twelve people were killed, hundreds and hundreds of years ago. We feel bad that politicians and atheists claimed they were doing the *Christian* thing when they were killing people.But it's time to let it go.

It will be time to let it go when Christian politicians and other influentials stop trying to push this country back into theocracy mode.

 

[Thunderbird]

It will be time to let it go when Christian politicians and other influentials stop trying to push this country back into theocracy mode.

Only dopes embrace conspiracy theories about a looming THEOCRACY. In reality our elites are often anti-religious bigots while the people are often religious.

 

[AtheistBuddah]

It will be time to let it go when Christian politicians and other influentials stop trying to push this country back into theocracy mode.

Only dopes embrace conspiracy theories about a looming THEOCRACY. In reality our elites are often anti-religious bigots while the people are often religious.

You will find that to be simply untrue when you look at the many conservative leaders of this country and the company they keep. Just look at Falwell before he died and Ted Haggard before his fall from grace. These religious demagogues held the ear of powerful members of the Republican Party and that relationship between the GOP and the church still continues. Just look at Rick Perry. If he isn't a clear example of someone blurring the line between church and state then I don't know what is.

 

[BillyP]

Atheists are just as deluded as theists, there's no solid proof that a god cannot exist.

 

[Thunderbird]

You will find that to be simply untrue when you look at the many conservative leaders of this country and the company they keep. Just look at Falwell before he died and Ted Haggard before his fall from grace. These religious demagogues held the ear of powerful members of the Republican Party and that relationship between the GOP and the church still continues. Just look at Rick Perry. If he isn't a clear example of someone blurring the line between church and state then I don't know what is.

Don't be fooled. Wild-eyed conspiracy theorists who wail about an imminent American Theocracy are only good for a laugh. Sociologist Peter Berger compared America to a nation of Indians ruled by Swedes, given that India is supposedly the most religious nation and Sweden the most secular. In reality the U.S. is no theocracy. The real danger is our secular elites who are too often anti-religious bigots.
Consider:

1) Abortion - The U.S. has some of the most extreme pro-abortion laws in the world - far more pro-abortion than many European countries for example.
When Is a Ban on Abortions ‘Extreme’?
And thousands of late term unborn babies are tortured to death every year: Like Gosnell, Abortion Doctors Fine With Killing Late-Term Babies
Torture is the right word.
Doctors on Fetal Pain

2) Homosexuality - Secular regimes have opposed the homosexual lifestyle more than any Republican.
Quote about Castro's Cuba: LGBT persons were imprisoned frequently, particularly effeminate males, without charge or trial, and confined to forced labor camps.
LINK
Numerous societies, both religious and secular, have failed to celebrate the gay lifestyle. Why? Perhaps because homosexual coupling doesn't produce life, but all too often a painful death. Homosexuality is also associated with pedophilia.
We are not free to refrain from celebrating or normalizing the homosexual/transgender lifestyle.
New Mexico Court: Christian Photographer Cannot Refuse Gay-Marriage Ceremony
Gay marriage incompatible with religious freedom
Lawyer: Constitution Requires Taxpayers Pay for Wikileaker's Sex Change

3) Education - The government-funded educational establishment discriminates against religious parents, students, teachers.
Compromising Scholarship: Religious and Political Bias in American Higher Education
Defending Religious Liberty in America
Foundation for Individual Rights in Education

 

[Thunderbird]

Another mistake atheists make: Some atheists embrace the humanism and optimism of the Enlightenment, but this makes no sense. The Enlightenment was mostly deist and not atheist. Atheists believe the universe is a random mess and man an accidental by-product of this universe - merely a sack of chemicals. Atheists have no reason to think humans are anything like the Imago Dei, nor think we live in a beautiful wonderful rational universe.

Stephen Hawking's God-Haunted Movie

quote: ...in seeking, with rational discipline for the theory of everything, he was, in point of fact, affirming the true God.

 

[koshergrl]

Hehe not my problem if you believe. I am just a servant.

Likely the same drivel given by Christians during the Inquisition, Salem Witch Trials and other atrocities to justify their mental illness.

And we feel really bad about the fact that those twelve people were killed, hundreds and hundreds of years ago. We feel bad that politicians and atheists claimed they were doing the *Christian* thing when they were killing people.But it's time to let it go.

It will be time to let it go when Christian politicians and other influentials stop trying to push this country back into theocracy mode.

You don't even know what the word "theocracy" means, or you wouldn't have used it.

 

[hipeter924]

Another mistake atheists make: Some atheists embrace the humanism and optimism of the Enlightenment, but this makes no sense. The Enlightenment was mostly deist and not atheist. Atheists believe the universe is a random mess and man an accidental by-product of this universe - merely a sack of chemicals. Atheists have no reason to think humans are anything like the Imago Dei, nor think we live in a beautiful wonderful rational universe.

Stephen Hawking's God-Haunted Movie

quote: ...in seeking, with rational discipline for the theory of everything, he was, in point of fact, affirming the true God.

Many Atheists believe in a circular universe beginning with a big bang and ending with a big crunch. If the basic elements for forming the universe have always existed, there is no need to create them - let alone a need for a creator.

Chaos theory, which you seem to be referring to does not mean there are no ordered systems in the universe, but that matter and energy can act in an unpredictable manner.

Evolution is not 'random', but a reaction to environmental factors. According to evolutionary theory, life can come to exist from non life.

You don't have to misrepresent the position of those that disagree with you, by generalizing that everyone in x group believe the same things.

 

[HUGGY]

Another mistake atheists make: Some atheists embrace the humanism and optimism of the Enlightenment, but this makes no sense. The Enlightenment was mostly deist and not atheist. Atheists believe the universe is a random mess and man an accidental by-product of this universe - merely a sack of chemicals. Atheists have no reason to think humans are anything like the Imago Dei, nor think we live in a beautiful wonderful rational universe.

Stephen Hawking's God-Haunted Movie

quote: ...in seeking, with rational discipline for the theory of everything, he was, in point of fact, affirming the true God.

You are quoting Robert Barrum the author of the article...not Stephen Hawking.

You don't know what typical atheists believe or how an individual atheist thinks.

You really need to stop attempting to put words and thoughts into other peoples mouths and minds.

Your cited author is not any kind of an expert on atheism.

What you provided was religious promoting blather. Please try to be more honest.

 

[HUGGY]

I find it especially laughable that religists that base their whole life's choice on a fraud accuse atheist's that only seek truthful facts as "making mistakes".

 

[Vandalshandle]

God knew that I was going to be an atheist, before I was born. I am certainly in no position to prove god wrong on that point. That would be blasphemy. Consequently, it would be totally disrespectful of me to believe in god. For showing him that respect, I assume that I will be rewarded and live an eternal life in heaven.

 

[MaxGrit]

Another mistake atheists make: Some atheists embrace the humanism and optimism of the Enlightenment, but this makes no sense. The Enlightenment was mostly deist and not atheist. Atheists believe the universe is a random mess and man an accidental by-product of this universe - merely a sack of chemicals. Atheists have no reason to think humans are anything like the Imago Dei, nor think we live in a beautiful wonderful rational universe.

Stephen Hawking's God-Haunted Movie

quote: ...in seeking, with rational discipline for the theory of everything, he was, in point of fact, affirming the true God.

Many Atheists believe in a circular universe beginning with a big bang and ending with a big crunch. If the basic elements for forming the universe have always existed, there is no need to create them - let alone a need for a creator.

Chaos theory, which you seem to be referring to does not mean there are no ordered systems in the universe, but that matter and energy can act in an unpredictable manner.

Evolution is not 'random', but a reaction to environmental factors. According to evolutionary theory, life can come to exist from non life.

You don't have to misrepresent the position of those that disagree with you, by generalizing that everyone in x group believe the same things.

Background radiation disprove the cyclical universe model. Atheists are ignorant of Christian theology and modern science.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

God is sovereign means that He is in complete control of the Universe. Providence is God's plan being carried out.

Does this mean God cause evil to happen?

No. Evil is from sin which are done with free will. God allows it to happen.

Which is confirmation of the fact that 'god' doesn't exist as perceived by theists.

ROFLMNAO!

God exists, as God exists... that theists have no idea what the existence is, is irrelevant. Al we know of God is the evidence he provides for us to know: He makes the law and we'll either benefit from having recognized, respected, defended and adhered to those laws, or we will suffer through our failure to do so.

 

[Vandalshandle]

God is sovereign means that He is in complete control of the Universe. Providence is God's plan being carried out.

Does this mean God cause evil to happen?

No. Evil is from sin which are done with free will. God allows it to happen.

Which is confirmation of the fact that 'god' doesn't exist as perceived by theists.

ROFLMNAO!

God exists, as God exists... that theists have no idea what the existence is, is irrelevant. Al we know of God is the evidence he provides for us to know: He makes the law and we'll either benefit from having recognized, respected, defended and adhered to those laws, or we will suffer through our failure to do so.

Would that be the LAW as interpreted by the Jews, the Catholics, the Protestants, the Mormons, the Scientologists, the Muslims, or the Seventh Day Adventists?

 

[hipeter924]

Another mistake atheists make: Some atheists embrace the humanism and optimism of the Enlightenment, but this makes no sense. The Enlightenment was mostly deist and not atheist. Atheists believe the universe is a random mess and man an accidental by-product of this universe - merely a sack of chemicals. Atheists have no reason to think humans are anything like the Imago Dei, nor think we live in a beautiful wonderful rational universe.

Stephen Hawking's God-Haunted Movie

quote: ...in seeking, with rational discipline for the theory of everything, he was, in point of fact, affirming the true God.

Many Atheists believe in a circular universe beginning with a big bang and ending with a big crunch. If the basic elements for forming the universe have always existed, there is no need to create them - let alone a need for a creator.

Chaos theory, which you seem to be referring to does not mean there are no ordered systems in the universe, but that matter and energy can act in an unpredictable manner.

Evolution is not 'random', but a reaction to environmental factors. According to evolutionary theory, life can come to exist from non life.

You don't have to misrepresent the position of those that disagree with you, by generalizing that everyone in x group believe the same things.

Background radiation disprove the cyclical universe model. Atheists are ignorant of Christian theology and modern science.

Another mistake atheists make: Some atheists embrace the humanism and optimism of the Enlightenment, but this makes no sense. The Enlightenment was mostly deist and not atheist. Atheists believe the universe is a random mess and man an accidental by-product of this universe - merely a sack of chemicals. Atheists have no reason to think humans are anything like the Imago Dei, nor think we live in a beautiful wonderful rational universe.

Stephen Hawking's God-Haunted Movie

quote: ...in seeking, with rational discipline for the theory of everything, he was, in point of fact, affirming the true God.

Many Atheists believe in a circular universe beginning with a big bang and ending with a big crunch. If the basic elements for forming the universe have always existed, there is no need to create them - let alone a need for a creator.

Chaos theory, which you seem to be referring to does not mean there are no ordered systems in the universe, but that matter and energy can act in an unpredictable manner.

Evolution is not 'random', but a reaction to environmental factors. According to evolutionary theory, life can come to exist from non life.

You don't have to misrepresent the position of those that disagree with you, by generalizing that everyone in x group believe the same things.

Background radiation disprove the cyclical universe model. Atheists are ignorant of Christian theology and modern science.

It hasn't been disproven yet, the debate on is still on, and some physicists are still at it. Irrespective of whether one theory is 'dis-proven' or not it would be a fallacy to argue that because one theory on the universe may be incorrect that all scientific theories that don't have god in the picture are incorrect.

But the second point is really the stupid point you make, as Atheists are not ignorant of Christian theology: Who Knows What About Religion Pew Research Center s Religion Public Life Project

Nearly two-thirds of the public (63%) correctly name Genesis as the first book of the Bible when asked this question in an open-ended (not multiple-choice) format. More than eight-in-ten white evangelicals (85%), Mormons (85%) and black Protestants (83%) get this question right, as do roughly seven-in-ten atheists and agnostics (71%). By comparison, fewer than half of Catholics (42%), including 47% of white Catholics and 29% of Hispanic Catholics, are able to name Genesis as the first book of the Bible.

71% of Atheists/Agnostics correctly answered that Genesis was the first book of Bible, but it still puts them ahead of Catholics (42%) and the general public average (63%).

Of the three Old Testament figures asked about in the survey, Americans are most familiar with Moses. Overall, more than seven-in-ten Americans (72%) know he was the biblical figure who led the exodus out of Egypt; 92% of Mormons and about as many Jews and atheists/agnostics answer this question correctly. Eight-in-ten white evangelicals correctly identify Moses, as do roughly three-quarters of black Protestants (73%) and about two-thirds of white mainline Protestants (68%) and Catholics (65%).

Mormons, Atheists, and Jews scored the highest on their knowledge of Moses, on about 92%.

 

[HUGGY]

God is sovereign means that He is in complete control of the Universe. Providence is God's plan being carried out.

Does this mean God cause evil to happen?

No. Evil is from sin which are done with free will. God allows it to happen.

Which is confirmation of the fact that 'god' doesn't exist as perceived by theists.

ROFLMNAO!

God exists, as God exists... that theists have no idea what the existence is, is irrelevant. Al we know of God is the evidence he provides for us to know: He makes the law and we'll either benefit from having recognized, respected, defended and adhered to those laws, or we will suffer through our failure to do so.

Would that be the LAW as interpreted by the Jews, the Catholics, the Protestants, the Mormons, the Scientologists, the Muslims, or the Seventh Day Adventists?

You pick em!

This millenium we are running a special... You pick... same results gauranteed !!! All gods results will be honored. Want virgins???...No problem!! Want guilt ??? Just say the word !!! Like to play the "favorite card" ??? Be a Jew for Jesus !!! Planets??? Did somebody say "PLANETS" ???? We got planets coming out the Ying Yang !!!! Be a Morman !!! You can steal practically LEGALLY !!!! Your kids a dissappointment???? Give your stuff to the Protestants !!!! Problem SOLVED !!!!

Gaurantees ????? Are you kidding ???? Not a single customer has EVER come back from the dead and complained about heaven !!!! How good is THAT ????

 

[hipeter924]

God is sovereign means that He is in complete control of the Universe. Providence is God's plan being carried out.

Does this mean God cause evil to happen?

No. Evil is from sin which are done with free will. God allows it to happen.

Which is confirmation of the fact that 'god' doesn't exist as perceived by theists.

ROFLMNAO!

God exists, as God exists... that theists have no idea what the existence is, is irrelevant. Al we know of God is the evidence he provides for us to know: He makes the law and we'll either benefit from having recognized, respected, defended and adhered to those laws, or we will suffer through our failure to do so.

Would that be the LAW as interpreted by the Jews, the Catholics, the Protestants, the Mormons, the Scientologists, the Muslims, or the Seventh Day Adventists?

You pick em!

This millenium we are running a special... You pick... same results gauranteed !!! All gods results will be honored. Want virgins???...No problem!! Want guilt ??? Just say the word !!! Like to play the "favorite card" ??? Be a Jew for Jesus !!! Planets??? Did somebody say "PLANETS" ???? We got planets coming out the Ying Yang !!!! Be a Morman !!! You can steal practically LEGALLY !!!! Your kids a dissappointment???? Give your stuff to the Protestants !!!! Problem SOLVED !!!!

Gaurantees ????? Are you kidding ???? Not a single customer has EVER come back from the dead and complained about heaven !!!! How good is THAT ????

I really am not concerned about it. If I get a beer after death, and can spend time with Jesus, I wouldn't mind.

If it really is burning in hell fire, or in some underworld with Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle - then there are hundreds of religions to choose from - and any of those could be equally valid.

I just don't buy into the argument that if you pick one, you increase your chances of being saved. Some gods are jealous, and want you to worship only them: Exodus 34 14 Do not worship any other god for the LORD whose name is Jealous is a jealous God.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Heaven's Gate seems kind of attractive. No tithing. Of course, there is a downside....

 

[hipeter924]

Heaven's Gate seems kind of attractive. No tithing. Of course, there is a downside....

A rather long list actually: List of actions prohibited by the Bible - RationalWiki

Food and drink

• Consuming blood (Genesis 9:4), Leviticus 17:10[10]
• Eating a cheeseburger or anything that mixes meat and dairy (Exodus 23:19)
• Sacrificing anything with yeast or honey (Leviticus 2:11)
• Eating leavened bread (bread with yeast) during the Feast of Unleavened Bread (Exodus 12:15)
• Eating fat (Leviticus 3:17)
• Eating pork (Leviticus 11:7-8)
• Waiting too long before consuming sacrifices (Leviticus 19:5-8)
• Eating aquatic creatures lacking fins or scales (Deuteronomy 14:9-10)
• Eating any meat not killed according to the kosher practice (Deuteronomy 12:21)
• Eating peace offerings while ritually unclean (Leviticus 7:20)

Daily life

• Planting more than one kind of seed in a field (Leviticus 19:19)
• Wearing clothing woven of more than one kind of cloth (Leviticus 19:19)
• Cutting the hair on the sides of your head or clipping of the edges of your beard (Leviticus 19:27)[20]
• Touching the dead carcass of a pig (Deuteronomy 14:8)
• Dressing across gender lines (Deuteronomy 22:5)