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Again that has nothing to do with the 2nd CommandmentChristianity believes that the New Testament of Jesus Christ is fulfillment of the Old Testament.
Matthew 5:16
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."
I don't know how much you know or understand about both the Old Testament and The New Testament. (Both philosophically and historically) But I would be pleased to answer any other questions you have from both a philosophical and historical perspective. (Non religious, since you apparently have a hostility towards these specific religions).
I think most Christians view and understand the 2nd commandment meaning “idolizing” and most translations mean “idolizing”. I’ve already explained the differences. You either accept them or you don’t. Won’t make the least of differences to you or Christians that view it differently.Again that has nothing to do with the 2nd Commandment
I've read the OT and the NT through more than once which btw is more times than most Christians have. And every Christian church i have ever been in has graven images of Jesus, Mary and multiple saints which is a direct violation of the 2nd Commandment
But the NT does not negate the OT.I think most Christians view and understand the 2nd commandment meaning “idolizing” and most translations mean “idolizing”. I’ve already explained the differences. You either accept them or you don’t. Won’t make the least of differences to you or Christians that view it differently.
Not to mention the fact that the New Testament is a new covenant - new instructions, new meaning, new understanding. Hence the reason Christians can eat pork, shell fish etc.
Correct - it “fulfills it” and part of fulfilling it includes a new covenant (meaning new understanding, new way of living, etc)But the NT does not negate the OT.
So the second commandment still applies and Christians ignore itCorrect - it “fulfills it” and part of fulfilling it includes a new covenant (meaning new understanding, new way of living, etc)
Ah. Once again someone who is not of a group tells us what we "really" do and/or why we "really" do it. We have already gone through scripture pointing out we are well within the bounds of the Commandments. Of course, this doesn't interest people who feel they must tear down the faith of others in order for their own beliefs to have a leg on which to stand.So the second commandment still applies and Christians ignore it
It’s already been explained ad nauseam to you. If you still don’t get it - well, that’s on your lack of comprehension. The rest of the world - atheists and all - understand it - they may not agree with it but they get itSo the second commandment still applies and Christians ignore it
Ah. Once again someone who is not of a group tells us what we "really" do and/or why we "really" do it. We have already gone through scripture pointing out we are well within the bounds of the Commandments. Of course, this doesn't interest people who feel they must tear down the faith of others in order for their own beliefs to have a leg on which to stand.
We should speak to the strength of our own faith. Once one starts trying to undermine the faith of others it is as much as admitting that faith cannot rise to the level/strength of the one being attacked.
You read and came to your own conclusion based on the reading of a commandment. Remember a conclusion is often the point where one stops thinking feeling that to go on thinking might disprove their conclusion--and wouldn't that be awful--being guilty of jumping to a wrong conclusion.That's not how I read or understood the commandment.
It's not just my conclusionYou read and came to your own conclusion based on the reading of a commandment. Remember a conclusion is often the point where one stops thinking feeling that to go on thinking might disprove their conclusion--and wouldn't that be awful--being guilty of jumping to a wrong conclusion.
Did you actually study the Hebrew language? Did you study the cultures of the time? Did you study why God forbade graven images for a certain purpose and yet commanded them for other purposes? God did command graven images for certain purposes. Why was that? I'll give you a hint: Those images were an assist in worship and trust in His ways.
And that is the reason for the commandment. Any item that is used for such a purpose (i.e., a lucky rabbit's foot or any other "lucky" object or likeness on or above the earth) is breaking the Commandment. It does not forbid art as is noted on the Ark of the Covenant and in the Temple. Art and sculpture not used as an idol or a lucky piece or a piece of power (such as the power of having the image of a lion that one believes emits from a graven image) isn't forbidden."You shall not make for yourself an idol
Contradictions? The Bible is full of (apparent) contradictions if you read it word for word without understanding that the Bible is made up of 70+ books written hundreds - if not thousands of years apart.That's not how I read or understood the commandment.
And I'm not undermining anything just pointing out yet another contradiction that to me is as plain as day
And that is the reason for the commandment. Any item that is used for such a purpose (i.e., a lucky rabbit's foot or any other "lucky" object or likeness on or above the earth) is breaking the Commandment. It does not forbid art as is noted on the Ark of the Covenant and in the Temple. Art and sculpture not used as an idol or a lucky piece or a piece of power (such as the power of having the image of a lion that one believes emits from a graven image) isn't forbidden.
Give it up., The second commandment is about clinging to the power of superstitions instead of having faith in God alone.
Contradictions? The Bible is full of (apparent) contradictions if you read it word for word without understanding that the Bible is made up of 70+ books written hundreds - if not thousands of years apart.
I can find you dozens of (apparent) contradictions other than that one commandment.
Is that what you were looking for? Or would you prefer understanding?
You read the Bible any way you do. Has nothing to do with understanding.Here we go again.
I couldn't be reading the Bible the "right" way if I see the contradictions
You read the Bible any way you do. Has nothing to do with understanding.
Quite the contrary. Obviously you understand what you read. Others may understand it differently. That's all.Who are you to say I am misunderstanding anything?
Quite the contrary. Obviously you understand what you read. Others may understand it differently. That's all.
100% agree there. Although I don't consider it a "problem" - more of a difference in understanding.Which is the problem with religion.
Exactly! If there is a loving God, then why does the democrat party exist?Satan answers the question, if God is good and loving, why is there so much evil in the world?
