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totally harmless civilians, including women and children, being prevented, under the threat of death, from moving about their homeland
Do you really think it is morally acceptable to murder, arrest or deport any of these human beings when they try to peacefully return to their places of origin?
Do you really think this is OK?
And the picture shows the entire reason for the Hamas attack.
What is the ideal solution, in that case?
I know exactly what his solution is ...
But it ain't gonna happen.
Well yes, the Zionist Jews have adopted many of the tactics of their previous oppressors, but do you think the rest of the world will allow the Zionists to murder all the non-Jews?
You think Zionists are "murdering" all the non Jews?
you know more than 20% of Israel's citizens are non-Jews, right? and they have full rights.
At least let us stay true to the facts
Firstly, I asked the question about killing all the non-Jews. Secondly, the Israelis rule over a population of non-Jews as large or larger than the population of Jews. You people keep up the charade that Apartheid South Africa kept up with respect to the Bantustans. You rule over the occupied territories, you control the borders, the air space, the territorial sea, you collect their taxes and you enter the territories with your armed forces wherever and whenever.
finally someone takes this thread seriously
Did you seriously think anyone here would/could have a meaningful discussion about the I/P Conflict? Threads like this are like chum in the water to the 'Jews are Nazis' crowd. And why not? An anonymous internet forum is only place they can spew their Jew hatred with impunity. They can't say the things they like to say in public, they can't say them to their co-workers or their friends or relatives. They have to hide their Jew-hatred in the closet like any other degenerate perversion.
There is no point discussing the I/P Conflict with anyone who isn't an Israeli or Palestinian because no one from outside those two groups will ever dictate a solution to either party.
US Presidents, EU Bureaucrats, Russian Autocrats will all push their solutions on Israel looking to secure their spot in some History book. These kibitzers will come and go ... Israel will still be there, doing what is best for Israel.
I'm sorry, but I won't engage these Jew-hating vermin in any kind of discussion because that is precisely what they want.
Originally posted by Hollie
The pointless South Africa references are a staple among the Islamic terrorist Pom Pom flailers.
As I followed your endless YOUTUBE VIDEO BATTLES with Tinmore there was a question I've always wanted to ask you, Hollie:
Do you really think it is morally acceptable to murder, arrest or deport any of these human beings when they try to peacefully return to their places of origin
just because a MINORITY, and I repeat, contrary to what the propaganda says, a MINORITY among them happens to not believe in the separation between mosque and state?
Do you really think this is OK?
The exact same scene could be seen in the West Bank and Gaza in 1948, 4 decades before Hamas was created and years before the first fedayeen attack.
I'm ready to open this up with the Pro-Palestinians on this board who are willing to have a logal discussion, and those who are not haters who want Israel in the sea.
Let us talk this rationally. What exactly IS the two states solution? One for Israel and one for the Palestinians? What will be the borders of such states?
Can you openly tell me what is the benefit of the so called 67 lines? what good there is in them? and why they are better than a 1 state solution?
Please elaborate. Let us discuss this rationally. No name calling and cusses.
If your looking for a rational discussion it helps to not label your opponents as "haters who want Israel in the sea" I'm assuming you mean haters not as in religious bigots but as "player haters" as in they're just jealous of they're gold rings and pimped out Cadillacs. I know Trump uses that one alot but I dont think you people know what it means, the push them into the sea comment I'm guessing was a random out of context quote from Ahmadinejad from 2004 I think.
here is the older of map of israel
as you can see most of palestine is occupied by Israel, the 1967 agreement, is where most Palestinian groups say Israel should move back to. But since jews were safer in muslim palestine then they were in christian europe most people say this entire occupation was unnecessary and illegal to begin with, and has more to do with white vs arabs then it has anything to do with Jewish people.
Many jews are anti israel, and claim the state goes not only against scripture but causes further persecution of jews, and creates more problems than it solves
so before you label everyone who is against israel as "haters who want Israel in the sea." you should try learning a little bit more than what fox news force feeds you. Then you might know what the "so called 67 lines" are all about
I'm ready to open this up with the Pro-Palestinians on this board who are willing to have a logal discussion, and those who are not haters who want Israel in the sea.
Let us talk this rationally. What exactly IS the two states solution? One for Israel and one for the Palestinians? What will be the borders of such states?
Can you openly tell me what is the benefit of the so called 67 lines? what good there is in them? and why they are better than a 1 state solution?
Please elaborate. Let us discuss this rationally. No name calling and cusses.
If your looking for a rational discussion it helps to not label your opponents as "haters who want Israel in the sea" I'm assuming you mean haters not as in religious bigots but as "player haters" as in they're just jealous of they're gold rings and pimped out Cadillacs. I know Trump uses that one alot but I dont think you people know what it means, the push them into the sea comment I'm guessing was a random out of context quote from Ahmadinejad from 2004 I think.
here is the older of map of israel
as you can see most of palestine is occupied by Israel, the 1967 agreement, is where most Palestinian groups say Israel should move back to. But since jews were safer in muslim palestine then they were in christian europe most people say this entire occupation was unnecessary and illegal to begin with, and has more to do with white vs arabs then it has anything to do with Jewish people.
Many jews are anti israel, and claim the state goes not only against scripture but causes further persecution of jews, and creates more problems than it solves
so before you label everyone who is against israel as "haters who want Israel in the sea." you should try learning a little bit more than what fox news force feeds you. Then you might know what the "so called 67 lines" are all about
That map of Israel and the West Bank/Gaza from 2005 isn't accurate at all. Arab propaganda. The West Bank is still filled with Arabs.
What is the ideal solution, in that case?
I know exactly what his solution is ...
But it ain't gonna happen.
Well yes, the Zionist Jews have adopted many of the tactics of their previous oppressors, but do you think the rest of the world will allow the Zionists to murder all the non-Jews?
You think Zionists are "murdering" all the non Jews?
you know more than 20% of Israel's citizens are non-Jews, right? and they have full rights.
At least let us stay true to the facts
Firstly, I asked the question about killing all the non-Jews. Secondly, the Israelis rule over a population of non-Jews as large or larger than the population of Jews. You people keep up the charade that Apartheid South Africa kept up with respect to the Bantustans. You rule over the occupied territories, you control the borders, the air space, the territorial sea, you collect their taxes and you enter the territories with your armed forces wherever and whenever.
That is true (excluding the taxes part) but that only means that currently they're under Israel's control, which is known already. How does is make it apartheid? Is the separation based on race? no it is not, and you know it. So what gives.
I know exactly what his solution is ...
But it ain't gonna happen.
Well yes, the Zionist Jews have adopted many of the tactics of their previous oppressors, but do you think the rest of the world will allow the Zionists to murder all the non-Jews?
You think Zionists are "murdering" all the non Jews?
you know more than 20% of Israel's citizens are non-Jews, right? and they have full rights.
At least let us stay true to the facts
Firstly, I asked the question about killing all the non-Jews. Secondly, the Israelis rule over a population of non-Jews as large or larger than the population of Jews. You people keep up the charade that Apartheid South Africa kept up with respect to the Bantustans. You rule over the occupied territories, you control the borders, the air space, the territorial sea, you collect their taxes and you enter the territories with your armed forces wherever and whenever.
That is true (excluding the taxes part) but that only means that currently they're under Israel's control, which is known already. How does is make it apartheid? Is the separation based on race? no it is not, and you know it. So what gives.
I'm always surprised how little Israelis really know about their country's treatment of the Palestinians. Everyone except Israelis know that Israel collects almost all of the taxes paid by the Palestinians.
"Israel has halted transfers of the tax revenue it collects on behalf of the Palestinians in retaliation for their move to join the international criminal court in the Hague, according to Israeli media."
Israel freezes Palestinian tax funds over international criminal court move
Well yes, the Zionist Jews have adopted many of the tactics of their previous oppressors, but do you think the rest of the world will allow the Zionists to murder all the non-Jews?
You think Zionists are "murdering" all the non Jews?
you know more than 20% of Israel's citizens are non-Jews, right? and they have full rights.
At least let us stay true to the facts
Firstly, I asked the question about killing all the non-Jews. Secondly, the Israelis rule over a population of non-Jews as large or larger than the population of Jews. You people keep up the charade that Apartheid South Africa kept up with respect to the Bantustans. You rule over the occupied territories, you control the borders, the air space, the territorial sea, you collect their taxes and you enter the territories with your armed forces wherever and whenever.
That is true (excluding the taxes part) but that only means that currently they're under Israel's control, which is known already. How does is make it apartheid? Is the separation based on race? no it is not, and you know it. So what gives.
I'm always surprised how little Israelis really know about their country's treatment of the Palestinians. Everyone except Israelis know that Israel collects almost all of the taxes paid by the Palestinians.
"Israel has halted transfers of the tax revenue it collects on behalf of the Palestinians in retaliation for their move to join the international criminal court in the Hague, according to Israeli media."
Israel freezes Palestinian tax funds over international criminal court move
Again with insulting my intelligence. Palestinians 'on paper' pay taxes, but they are in debt of biollions to both electricity and water copmanies.
I know exactly what his solution is ...
But it ain't gonna happen.
Well yes, the Zionist Jews have adopted many of the tactics of their previous oppressors, but do you think the rest of the world will allow the Zionists to murder all the non-Jews?
You think Zionists are "murdering" all the non Jews?
you know more than 20% of Israel's citizens are non-Jews, right? and they have full rights.
At least let us stay true to the facts
Firstly, I asked the question about killing all the non-Jews. Secondly, the Israelis rule over a population of non-Jews as large or larger than the population of Jews. You people keep up the charade that Apartheid South Africa kept up with respect to the Bantustans. You rule over the occupied territories, you control the borders, the air space, the territorial sea, you collect their taxes and you enter the territories with your armed forces wherever and whenever.
That is true (excluding the taxes part) but that only means that currently they're under Israel's control, which is known already. How does is make it apartheid? Is the separation based on race? no it is not, and you know it. So what gives.
I'm always surprised how little Israelis really know about their country's treatment of the Palestinians. Everyone except Israelis know that Israel collects almost all of the taxes paid by the Palestinians.
"Israel has halted transfers of the tax revenue it collects on behalf of the Palestinians in retaliation for their move to join the international criminal court in the Hague, according to Israeli media."
Israel freezes Palestinian tax funds over international criminal court move
Collects or not. They're in deep debts. Don't argue on things you don't know.
Collects or not. They're in deep debts. Don't argue on things you don't know.
It is you that denied that the Israelis collected Palestinian taxes. Don't argue about things you don't know.
Well yes, the Zionist Jews have adopted many of the tactics of their previous oppressors, but do you think the rest of the world will allow the Zionists to murder all the non-Jews?
You think Zionists are "murdering" all the non Jews?
you know more than 20% of Israel's citizens are non-Jews, right? and they have full rights.
At least let us stay true to the facts
Firstly, I asked the question about killing all the non-Jews. Secondly, the Israelis rule over a population of non-Jews as large or larger than the population of Jews. You people keep up the charade that Apartheid South Africa kept up with respect to the Bantustans. You rule over the occupied territories, you control the borders, the air space, the territorial sea, you collect their taxes and you enter the territories with your armed forces wherever and whenever.
That is true (excluding the taxes part) but that only means that currently they're under Israel's control, which is known already. How does is make it apartheid? Is the separation based on race? no it is not, and you know it. So what gives.
I'm always surprised how little Israelis really know about their country's treatment of the Palestinians. Everyone except Israelis know that Israel collects almost all of the taxes paid by the Palestinians.
"Israel has halted transfers of the tax revenue it collects on behalf of the Palestinians in retaliation for their move to join the international criminal court in the Hague, according to Israeli media."
Israel freezes Palestinian tax funds over international criminal court move
Did you even read this article that you yourself posted? It says that Israel collects the tax revenues on behalf of the Palestinians, and then transfers them to the PA each month.
Collects or not. They're in deep debts. Don't argue on things you don't know.
It is you that denied that the Israelis collected Palestinian taxes. Don't argue about things you don't know.
I did not say such thing! I pointed out the fact that they're in debts!
So are we clear on that? Cheeses.
It is not about immigration. It is about people going home.totally harmless civilians, including women and children, being prevented, under the threat of death, from moving about their homeland
California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas were once the homelands of the Mexican people.
Pop quiz: What happens to 'harmless civilians' who illegally enter those states - simply by being Mexican?
Israel, like the United States, is a sovereign country. All sovereign countries have the right to control immigration.
