Koreans To Be 'Punished With A Baby'

Abortion is clearly a monstrosity.

Are you a member of Olivet University by Korean Evangelicals?

We have Olivet University up here, and there's a lot of bad stories about Koreans as a result floating around in the Central Harlem Valley.

Lots of things are "monstrosities"

We could say executions are a monstrosity.
War.
Ghettos.
Politics.
 
Explain how murder is not evil in any context?

He already did. Those whose murders he supports, “aren't people”, according to him. Just like Jews were not people to the Nazis, and blacks were not people to the slave holders in our own early history.
Wow you nailed it on the head big time. Sadly these pro-abort people can’t or won’t see the evil in their thinking.
 
No law is infallible. Do you think it better to kill the unborn because a small percentage of women will seek backroom abortions?

If I go to Canada and murder someone, do you think the US government should ignore?

You ask me questions and I answer. Funny thing is you seldom answer mine.
I don't think that the fetus is a real person until born and breathing. Ending a pregnancy does nothing to a human being, except possibly the woman having the abortion. The government should stay out of religious debates. Any more questions?
I don’t think this is a religious debate. It is however a debate on right and wrong.

If the fetus is not a “real person,” what is it?

Even if it is not a real person, so what? Do you think killing it is acceptable?

You keep throwing shit on the wall, but nothing sticks. Try again.
I believe that the body is a vessel for an eternal soul to travel in for a while. I also don't believe that the soul is in the womb, otherwise everyone would remember their time in the womb. The bright light that everyone sees when they die is possibly the soul being reborn again into a different body, but at the birth of the being. So the aborted fetus has yet to have acquired a soul.
That’s convenient and rather sounds religious. It is your faith. Yet you are against religion.
Not religious, realistic.
I don’t think you know what to believe.
 
The anti-abortion types cannot distinguish between what is potentially capable of becoming something and what actually is going on, a view based on an ignorance of the human reproductive/gestational process.

Having a baby can be considered to be a punishment where the threat of an unwanted pregnancy is used for political purposes and attempts at sexual domination, as is the case presently. It is used in many cultures, including ours, to scare women away from sex until they can be placed into a position in which they are forced to serve the sexual "needs" and fantasies of some extremely sick men. A lot of these monsters have sexual fantasies involving being the first to lay a woman who has not had sex before.

We have the technology to prevent the majority of occurrences of unwanted pregnancy. This technology should be universally available. This is just common sense. We humans have a history of using technology/tools to achieve a desired outcome.

The only person qualified to make a final decision about birth control and/or abortion is the woman involved. Men, and certainly not government officials, simply are neither qualified nor entitled to override the woman's decision-making authority or to have the final say.
 
1. Well-known infanticide enthusiast, Barack Obama, famously said:
"I've got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby."


2. With the free time on his hands, the former President had best scurry off to my home-country, and explain to the ultra-religious folks of Korea, that he was well known in America as god, Jesus, and the messiah, and, that they'd best take careful consideration of the issue before they ban one of his favs, abortion.



3. "South Korean doctors “protest” new abortion regulations
"We flatly refuse to carry out abortions, which the government has defined as an immoral medical action," the Korean College of Obstetrics & Gynecologists said in a statement in reponse to the regulations.

4.The new government sanctions, which were released last month, threaten to ban doctors from practice for a month if they are found to have performed an illegal abortion. The regulations include abortion among a list of “immoral medical actions”, together with sexual assault and ghost surgery (where one doctor substitutes for another without the patient’s knowledge).

5. Abortion is illegal in South Korea except in cases of rape, incest, genetic disorders or where the pregnancy would threaten a woman’s health."
South Korean doctors “protest” new abortion regulations



After, all, how free is anyone if they cannot take the life of that which is inconvenient to their lifestyle???

Still bravely knocking those strawmen over one by one I see.
Thank you for your service.

He wasn't talking about abortion...he was talking about contraception during a conversation about STDs.

MARY SNOW (CNN correspondent): Welcome back to CNN's edition of Ballot Bowl. This is a chance for you to hear directly from the candidates. I'm Mary Snow in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, where Senator Barack Obama is holding a town hall meeting right now, taking questions from the audience. Let's go straight to Senator Barack Obama; he just was asked a question about how his administration, if he's elected, would deal with the issue of HIV and AIDS and also sexually transmitted diseases with young girls. Here's Senator Barack Obama.

OBAMA: -- or we give them really expensive surgery and we don't spend money on the front end keeping people healthy in the first place. So, when it comes to -- when it comes specifically to HIV/AIDS, the most important prevention is education, which should include -- which should include abstinence only -- should include abstinence education and teaching that children -- teaching children, you know, that sex is not something casual. But it should also include -- it should also include other, you know, information about contraception because, look, I've got two daughters -- 9 years old and 6 years old. I'm going to teach them first of all about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby. I don't want them punished with an STD at the age of 16.

You know, so, it doesn't make sense to not give them information. You still want to teach them the morals and the values to make good decisions. That will be important, number one. Then we're still going to have to provide better treatment for those who do have -- who do contract HIV/AIDS, because it's no longer a death sentence, if, in fact, you get the proper cocktails. It's expensive. That's why we want to prevent as much as possible.

But we should also provide better treatment. And we should focus on those sectors where it's prevalent and we've got to get over the stigma because understand that the fastest growth in HIV/AIDS is in heterosexuals, not gays. And so, we've got to get out of that stigma that we still have around it. It's connected also to drug use. So, one of the things we have to do is to start thinking about better substance abuse treatment programs around drugs and not just treat it as a criminal justice issue. Treat it as a public health issue as well.

NBC's Guthrie falsely suggested Obama's "punished with a baby" comment was about abortion


My use of the quote made a point that is so simple and so obvious that it became, for you, an IQ test.

Any normal individual, having even a high double digit IQ, would recognize that Obama does not see a baby as a gift, but as a burden, a penalty.

It is item #2 that refers to his love of abortion, baby killing.
But....one should not be surprised, after all Obama is known for a hatred of people.


“Former Obama Aide Is Sorry for Saying Obama Hates People

That happened on Tuesday when a quote by Neera Tanden, a former Obama aide and current president of the Center for American Progress, appearing in a story by John Heilemann in New York raised eyebrows:

"People say the reason Obama wouldn't call Clinton is because he doesn't like him. The truth is, Obama doesn't call anyone, and he's not close to almost anyone. It's stunning that he's in politics, because he really doesn't like people."
Former Obama Aide Is Sorry for Saying Obama Hates People - The Atlantic




In short, as is true of so many Leftists, they carry an attitude of disrespect for the sanctity of human life.

Like this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Obama, the same.
You made a point by misrepresenting a quote...so the only real point was a demonstration of your intellectual dishonesty.
Railing against a false premise is a genius way to win an argument though...you truly are a master of the rhetorical arts.
Keep up the good work.
 
The anti-abortion types cannot distinguish between what is potentially capable of becoming something and what actually is going on, a view based on an ignorance of the human reproductive/gestational process.

Having a baby can be considered to be a punishment where the threat of an unwanted pregnancy is used for political purposes and attempts at sexual domination, as is the case presently. It is used in many cultures, including ours, to scare women away from sex until they can be placed into a position in which they are forced to serve the sexual "needs" and fantasies of some extremely sick men. A lot of these monsters have sexual fantasies involving being the first to lay a woman who has not had sex before.

We have the technology to prevent the majority of occurrences of unwanted pregnancy. This technology should be universally available. This is just common sense. We humans have a history of using technology/tools to achieve a desired outcome.

The only person qualified to make a final decision about birth control and/or abortion is the woman involved. Men, and certainly not government officials, simply are neither qualified nor entitled to override the woman's decision-making authority or to have the final say.
Why does a pregnant woman get to decide who lives and who dies? That is total BS. Something akin to the Roman emperors thumbs up or down in the colosseum.
 
The anti-abortion types cannot distinguish between what is potentially capable of becoming something and what actually is going on, a view based on an ignorance of the human reproductive/gestational process.

Having a baby can be considered to be a punishment where the threat of an unwanted pregnancy is used for political purposes and attempts at sexual domination, as is the case presently. It is used in many cultures, including ours, to scare women away from sex until they can be placed into a position in which they are forced to serve the sexual "needs" and fantasies of some extremely sick men. A lot of these monsters have sexual fantasies involving being the first to lay a woman who has not had sex before.

We have the technology to prevent the majority of occurrences of unwanted pregnancy. This technology should be universally available. This is just common sense. We humans have a history of using technology/tools to achieve a desired outcome.

The only person qualified to make a final decision about birth control and/or abortion is the woman involved. Men, and certainly not government officials, simply are neither qualified nor entitled to override the woman's decision-making authority or to have the final say.
Why does a pregnant woman get to decide who lives and who dies? That is total BS. Something akin to the Roman emperors thumbs up or down in the colosseum.

Pure nonsense. She owns her own body and is the only one who has a right to it. I would think that a woman who decides to have an abortion does not share your ideology/religious beliefs. Millions of people who are not having abortions do not share your ideology. Look at the recent vote in Ireland.
 
The anti-abortion types cannot distinguish between what is potentially capable of becoming something and what actually is going on, a view based on an ignorance of the human reproductive/gestational process.

Having a baby can be considered to be a punishment where the threat of an unwanted pregnancy is used for political purposes and attempts at sexual domination, as is the case presently. It is used in many cultures, including ours, to scare women away from sex until they can be placed into a position in which they are forced to serve the sexual "needs" and fantasies of some extremely sick men. A lot of these monsters have sexual fantasies involving being the first to lay a woman who has not had sex before.

We have the technology to prevent the majority of occurrences of unwanted pregnancy. This technology should be universally available. This is just common sense. We humans have a history of using technology/tools to achieve a desired outcome.

The only person qualified to make a final decision about birth control and/or abortion is the woman involved. Men, and certainly not government officials, simply are neither qualified nor entitled to override the woman's decision-making authority or to have the final say.
Why does a pregnant woman get to decide who lives and who dies? That is total BS. Something akin to the Roman emperors thumbs up or down in the colosseum.

Pure nonsense. She owns her own body and is the only one who has a right to it. I would think that a woman who decides to have an abortion does not share your ideology/religious beliefs. Millions of people who are not having abortions do not share your ideology. Look at the recent vote in Ireland.
That is straight up BS. Because I own my body I get to kill my fetus. Think man. Think.
 
It is odd how those on the left wrong, when disregarding or denying the distinction between good and evil, between right and wrong, and defending a policy that is very solidly on the evil/wrong side, try to frame it as a “religious” issue, even when it has nothing whatsoever to do with religion.

because it is only "evil" in a religious context.

Fetuses aren't people. Telling a woman she has to have her rapists' baby after her doctor has told her that it might endanger her health, now that's fucking evil.

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We used to execute rapists. Liberals put a stop to that. Now we execute their babies.
 
The anti-abortion types cannot distinguish between what is potentially capable of becoming something and what actually is going on, a view based on an ignorance of the human reproductive/gestational process.

Having a baby can be considered to be a punishment where the threat of an unwanted pregnancy is used for political purposes and attempts at sexual domination, as is the case presently. It is used in many cultures, including ours, to scare women away from sex until they can be placed into a position in which they are forced to serve the sexual "needs" and fantasies of some extremely sick men. A lot of these monsters have sexual fantasies involving being the first to lay a woman who has not had sex before.

We have the technology to prevent the majority of occurrences of unwanted pregnancy. This technology should be universally available. This is just common sense. We humans have a history of using technology/tools to achieve a desired outcome.

The only person qualified to make a final decision about birth control and/or abortion is the woman involved. Men, and certainly not government officials, simply are neither qualified nor entitled to override the woman's decision-making authority or to have the final say.
Why does a pregnant woman get to decide who lives and who dies? That is total BS. Something akin to the Roman emperors thumbs up or down in the colosseum.

Pure nonsense. She owns her own body and is the only one who has a right to it. I would think that a woman who decides to have an abortion does not share your ideology/religious beliefs. Millions of people who are not having abortions do not share your ideology. Look at the recent vote in Ireland.

Since when does her own body have 92 chromosomes ?
 
The anti-abortion types cannot distinguish between what is potentially capable of becoming something and what actually is going on, a view based on an ignorance of the human reproductive/gestational process.

Having a baby can be considered to be a punishment where the threat of an unwanted pregnancy is used for political purposes and attempts at sexual domination, as is the case presently. It is used in many cultures, including ours, to scare women away from sex until they can be placed into a position in which they are forced to serve the sexual "needs" and fantasies of some extremely sick men. A lot of these monsters have sexual fantasies involving being the first to lay a woman who has not had sex before.

We have the technology to prevent the majority of occurrences of unwanted pregnancy. This technology should be universally available. This is just common sense. We humans have a history of using technology/tools to achieve a desired outcome.

The only person qualified to make a final decision about birth control and/or abortion is the woman involved. Men, and certainly not government officials, simply are neither qualified nor entitled to override the woman's decision-making authority or to have the final say.
Why does a pregnant woman get to decide who lives and who dies? That is total BS. Something akin to the Roman emperors thumbs up or down in the colosseum.

Pure nonsense. She owns her own body and is the only one who has a right to it. I would think that a woman who decides to have an abortion does not share your ideology/religious beliefs. Millions of people who are not having abortions do not share your ideology. Look at the recent vote in Ireland.

Since when does her own body have 92 chromosomes ?
WTF? Another wacked out theory. You cult people get crazier by the second.
No big government in people's personal lives. No big government forcing someone else's ideology on people who don't want it. Not all of us joined your cult.
 
The anti-abortion types cannot distinguish between what is potentially capable of becoming something and what actually is going on, a view based on an ignorance of the human reproductive/gestational process.

Having a baby can be considered to be a punishment where the threat of an unwanted pregnancy is used for political purposes and attempts at sexual domination, as is the case presently. It is used in many cultures, including ours, to scare women away from sex until they can be placed into a position in which they are forced to serve the sexual "needs" and fantasies of some extremely sick men. A lot of these monsters have sexual fantasies involving being the first to lay a woman who has not had sex before.

We have the technology to prevent the majority of occurrences of unwanted pregnancy. This technology should be universally available. This is just common sense. We humans have a history of using technology/tools to achieve a desired outcome.

The only person qualified to make a final decision about birth control and/or abortion is the woman involved. Men, and certainly not government officials, simply are neither qualified nor entitled to override the woman's decision-making authority or to have the final say.
Why does a pregnant woman get to decide who lives and who dies? That is total BS. Something akin to the Roman emperors thumbs up or down in the colosseum.

Pure nonsense. She owns her own body and is the only one who has a right to it. I would think that a woman who decides to have an abortion does not share your ideology/religious beliefs. Millions of people who are not having abortions do not share your ideology. Look at the recent vote in Ireland.

Since when does her own body have 92 chromosomes ?
WTF? Another wacked out theory. You cult people get crazier by the second.
No big government in people's personal lives. No big government forcing someone else's ideology on people who don't want it. Not all of us joined your cult.
Yeah the government shouldn’t protect life. Let the people kill their babies. What’s the big deal?

Next thing you know the baby killers will try to make murder of the elderly and infirm acceptable. After all it is none of the government’s business.
 
1. Well-known infanticide enthusiast, Barack Obama, famously said:
"I've got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby."


2. With the free time on his hands, the former President had best scurry off to my home-country, and explain to the ultra-religious folks of Korea, that he was well known in America as god, Jesus, and the messiah, and, that they'd best take careful consideration of the issue before they ban one of his favs, abortion.



3. "South Korean doctors “protest” new abortion regulations
"We flatly refuse to carry out abortions, which the government has defined as an immoral medical action," the Korean College of Obstetrics & Gynecologists said in a statement in reponse to the regulations.

4.The new government sanctions, which were released last month, threaten to ban doctors from practice for a month if they are found to have performed an illegal abortion. The regulations include abortion among a list of “immoral medical actions”, together with sexual assault and ghost surgery (where one doctor substitutes for another without the patient’s knowledge).

5. Abortion is illegal in South Korea except in cases of rape, incest, genetic disorders or where the pregnancy would threaten a woman’s health."
South Korean doctors “protest” new abortion regulations



After, all, how free is anyone if they cannot take the life of that which is inconvenient to their lifestyle???

Still bravely knocking those strawmen over one by one I see.
Thank you for your service.

He wasn't talking about abortion...he was talking about contraception during a conversation about STDs.

MARY SNOW (CNN correspondent): Welcome back to CNN's edition of Ballot Bowl. This is a chance for you to hear directly from the candidates. I'm Mary Snow in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, where Senator Barack Obama is holding a town hall meeting right now, taking questions from the audience. Let's go straight to Senator Barack Obama; he just was asked a question about how his administration, if he's elected, would deal with the issue of HIV and AIDS and also sexually transmitted diseases with young girls. Here's Senator Barack Obama.

OBAMA: -- or we give them really expensive surgery and we don't spend money on the front end keeping people healthy in the first place. So, when it comes to -- when it comes specifically to HIV/AIDS, the most important prevention is education, which should include -- which should include abstinence only -- should include abstinence education and teaching that children -- teaching children, you know, that sex is not something casual. But it should also include -- it should also include other, you know, information about contraception because, look, I've got two daughters -- 9 years old and 6 years old. I'm going to teach them first of all about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby. I don't want them punished with an STD at the age of 16.

You know, so, it doesn't make sense to not give them information. You still want to teach them the morals and the values to make good decisions. That will be important, number one. Then we're still going to have to provide better treatment for those who do have -- who do contract HIV/AIDS, because it's no longer a death sentence, if, in fact, you get the proper cocktails. It's expensive. That's why we want to prevent as much as possible.

But we should also provide better treatment. And we should focus on those sectors where it's prevalent and we've got to get over the stigma because understand that the fastest growth in HIV/AIDS is in heterosexuals, not gays. And so, we've got to get out of that stigma that we still have around it. It's connected also to drug use. So, one of the things we have to do is to start thinking about better substance abuse treatment programs around drugs and not just treat it as a criminal justice issue. Treat it as a public health issue as well.

NBC's Guthrie falsely suggested Obama's "punished with a baby" comment was about abortion


My use of the quote made a point that is so simple and so obvious that it became, for you, an IQ test.

Any normal individual, having even a high double digit IQ, would recognize that Obama does not see a baby as a gift, but as a burden, a penalty.

It is item #2 that refers to his love of abortion, baby killing.
But....one should not be surprised, after all Obama is known for a hatred of people.


“Former Obama Aide Is Sorry for Saying Obama Hates People

That happened on Tuesday when a quote by Neera Tanden, a former Obama aide and current president of the Center for American Progress, appearing in a story by John Heilemann in New York raised eyebrows:

"People say the reason Obama wouldn't call Clinton is because he doesn't like him. The truth is, Obama doesn't call anyone, and he's not close to almost anyone. It's stunning that he's in politics, because he really doesn't like people."
Former Obama Aide Is Sorry for Saying Obama Hates People - The Atlantic




In short, as is true of so many Leftists, they carry an attitude of disrespect for the sanctity of human life.

Like this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Obama, the same.
You made a point by misrepresenting a quote...so the only real point was a demonstration of your intellectual dishonesty.
Railing against a false premise is a genius way to win an argument though...you truly are a master of the rhetorical arts.
Keep up the good work.



The claim of 'misrepresenting' is merely your excuse for supporting the indefensible.


Everything I post is 100% accurate, correct and true.......as you have found.
 
I don't think that the fetus is a real person until born and breathing. Ending a pregnancy does nothing to a human being, except possibly the woman having the abortion. The government should stay out of religious debates. Any more questions?
I don’t think this is a religious debate. It is however a debate on right and wrong.

If the fetus is not a “real person,” what is it?

Even if it is not a real person, so what? Do you think killing it is acceptable?

You keep throwing shit on the wall, but nothing sticks. Try again.
I believe that the body is a vessel for an eternal soul to travel in for a while. I also don't believe that the soul is in the womb, otherwise everyone would remember their time in the womb. The bright light that everyone sees when they die is possibly the soul being reborn again into a different body, but at the birth of the being. So the aborted fetus has yet to have acquired a soul.
That’s convenient and rather sounds religious. It is your faith. Yet you are against religion.
Not religious, realistic.
I don’t think you know what to believe.
It's my leading theory. Nobody has figured what actually happens.
 
Yes. Little ones are a "great gift"
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He already did. Those whose murders he supports, “aren't people”, according to him. Just like Jews were not people to the Nazis, and blacks were not people to the slave holders in our own early history.

and the people the Mormons slaughtered at Mountain Meadow weren't people.


But fetuses actually aren't people. If they fall out of the womb on their own, (which one third of fertilized eggs do) they die. Nobody is having a funeral for a tampon.

So not people.
 
Why does a pregnant woman get to decide who lives and who dies? That is total BS. Something akin to the Roman emperors thumbs up or down in the colosseum.

Because it's inside her body... that's why she get to decide or not.

So here's a simple solution. Let's develop technologies to remove fetuses from women and transplant them into religious right wing assholes. The Assholes will then be responsible for bringing them to term and then providing for all their needs for the 18 years after that.

Seems reasonable to me.
 

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