Is Prostitution normal also?

What do you propose to do with prostitutes that won't get a license or permit; refuses to get a health certificate; won't collect or pay taxes? Unless you are talking about unrestricted and uncontrolled prostitution there will be the same number of underground prostitutes as there ever was. There will be no saving resources or fewer court appearances or those in jail. There will be the same number of pimps. The same madams. And yes there will be legal brothels too. Legalization will not take one illegal whore off the streets.

Places where there is heavy prostitution like Hollywood Blvd or Alameda Avenue in Long Beach, even in Anaheim, there are too many whores to arrest. The solicitation laws are used to get the obviously sick and abused off the streets. Have a blanket legalization and there will be no way to get them off the streets.

There is not an answer to every question.

Think about this though, with legal prostitution, a major sex shop would open on Katella, featuring all the fantasy girls. Once established, who would frequent the underground whores in Anaheim? Hollywood is a different story, but it would wipe out the illegal trade in 95% of the state. Hollywood, San Francisco, and Sacramento will always be cesspools, but the rest of the state would quickly choose the safer and cleaner rout. The Craigslist girls would list their certificate numbers in the ads...

You have no idea obviously.
No idea at all.

Who would patronize an illegal prostitute? Someone that will only pay what illegal prostitutes charge. Someone who doesn't want to use a condom. Someone who wants something special.

Who buys knock off designer merchandise. Rolex watches are legal. So are Coach handbags. Just go into one of the fantasy stores and buy one. Why would someone buy one that's illegal out of the trunk of someone's car?
 
The only way you may be able to regulate prostitution is to take the social stigma from it. Hopefully people would then cooperate with the regulations.

How are you going to stop people from not getting tested and doing it anyway simply because they dont want everyone else to know?

Nevada does quite well at it. Prostitutes have a license that includes regular testing. In order to work at the Bunny Ranch and other brothels, the card must be up to date.

Simple, unobtrusive, safe.

Nevada is an excellent example. All the legal brothels in Nevada has not taken a single whore off the strip. Nevada is pretty much what I mean when I point out that the legalization of prostitution doesn't achieve the objectives legalization is supposed to achieve.

The reason it doesn't work is that prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas. If it weren't you might be able to make the point that making it legal doesn't work, but you cannot make that point when you point to a place where it is illegal.
 
Closure of prostitution website costly for sex workers - Houston Chronicle

To compare with debates on whether
homosexuality is normal for some people and should be accepted,
or whether people are going to feed drug addictions anyway so that should be
either legalized or decriminalized,

What about Prostitution?

If you believe drugs and prostitution should be decriminalized
in order to regulate safely, what level of laws do you support to prevent abuses
that are not the "free choice" of participants but pose a danger to public health or safety?

Where do you draw the line, why, and what do you suggest for reform?

In navada they haven't any problems with Prostitution... they have health care and they pay taxes ... in colorado they passed pot laws were you can go an buy pot at any time you feel like... after the first year they paid over a 100 million dollars in taxes ... this money goes to pay for police fire and rebuilding schools ... I realize you are trying to make this about homo's thats why you pick two vices that people enjoy ... I see nothing wrong with decriminalizing drugs I see nothing wrong with Prostitution ... only the religious people in this country does...
 
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Nevada does quite well at it. Prostitutes have a license that includes regular testing. In order to work at the Bunny Ranch and other brothels, the card must be up to date.

Simple, unobtrusive, safe.

Nevada is an excellent example. All the legal brothels in Nevada has not taken a single whore off the strip. Nevada is pretty much what I mean when I point out that the legalization of prostitution doesn't achieve the objectives legalization is supposed to achieve.

The reason it doesn't work is that prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas. If it weren't you might be able to make the point that making it legal doesn't work, but you cannot make that point when you point to a place where it is illegal.

Drive ten miles it won't kill you.
 
Closure of prostitution website costly for sex workers - Houston Chronicle

To compare with debates on whether
homosexuality is normal for some people and should be accepted,
or whether people are going to feed drug addictions anyway so that should be
either legalized or decriminalized,

What about Prostitution?

If you believe drugs and prostitution should be decriminalized
in order to regulate safely, what level of laws do you support to prevent abuses
that are not the "free choice" of participants but pose a danger to public health or safety?

Where do you draw the line, why, and what do you suggest for reform?

In navada they haven't any problems with Prostitutionave... they have health care and they pay taxes ... in colorado they passed pot laws were you can go an buy pot at any time you feel like... after the first year they paid over a 100 million dollars in taxes ... this money goes to pay for police fire and rebuilding schools ... I realize you are trying to mkae this about homo's thats why you pick two vices that people enjoy ... I see nothing wrong with legalizing drugs I see nothing wronmg with Prostitution ... only the religious people in this country does...

Fatal car accidents in Colorado have tripled since pot was legalized.
 
Excuse me? When did I say they were victims? Are you going off on a tangent again?

I am saying you are wrong, and giving you links that back me up. All you have to back you up is government propaganda used to justify them spending money to attack a non existent problem. Then you throw in the claim that the reason you know all about how every single place in the universe works is that you grew up around it and we have your typical approach to any debate.

By the way, how do you know where I live, or what my life experience is? Trust me on this one, I know more about the gritty side of life than you think.

Youre excused. You said it were I bolded your post.

You can say what you want to and post a million links. I've seen it with my own eyes and have links backing me up. The "business woman prostitute" is a small subset of prostitutes. Far and away most of them are abused by pimps, johns, and some are abused by wayward police officers.

I know because of the stuff you say and the way you say it. You never been in anything grittier than a pajama party.

If you go back and read that part you bolded you will see I never said they were victims.

Feel free to apologize.

I dont need to. I see it in your post. Thanks for apologizing.
 
Closure of prostitution website costly for sex workers - Houston Chronicle

To compare with debates on whether
homosexuality is normal for some people and should be accepted,
or whether people are going to feed drug addictions anyway so that should be
either legalized or decriminalized,

What about Prostitution?

If you believe drugs and prostitution should be decriminalized
in order to regulate safely, what level of laws do you support to prevent abuses
that are not the "free choice" of participants but pose a danger to public health or safety?

Where do you draw the line, why, and what do you suggest for reform?

In navada they haven't any problems with Prostitutionave... they have health care and they pay taxes ... in colorado they passed pot laws were you can go an buy pot at any time you feel like... after the first year they paid over a 100 million dollars in taxes ... this money goes to pay for police fire and rebuilding schools ... I realize you are trying to mkae this about homo's thats why you pick two vices that people enjoy ... I see nothing wrong with legalizing drugs I see nothing wronmg with Prostitution ... only the religious people in this country does...

Fatal car accidents in Colorado have tripled since pot was legalized.

Making shit up again?

Historical Fatal Crashes ? CDOT
 
I lived in Las Vegas for years. The only reason that prostitution is illegal there is that they are afraid that wives of conventioneers will forbid their husbands from going to the conventions. Besides, there is no point. If you call the Chicken Ranch, they will send out a free limo from the next county over.
 
I lived in Las Vegas for years. The only reason that prostitution is illegal there is that they are afraid that wives of conventioneers will forbid their husbands from going to the conventions. Besides, there is no point. If you call the Chicken Ranch, they will send out a free limo from the next county over.

A Little history from an ex-tour guide.

When WWII had just started, the Army decided to establish two Army Air Corps facilities in Nevada, one in Reno and the other outside of Las Vegas. At that time, prostitution was legal everywhere in Nevada and Las Vegas had a large red light district just about where the California Hotel and Casino is now.

There was a hew and cry about exposing "innocent young boys" to the evil sins of Nevada. The area was ideal for the proposed purpose and the Army went to the mat, urging local politicians to "clean up" the areas. The result was a hastily approved amendment to the state constitution that restricted it to every county BUT Clark and Washoe.

When the new training installation open up, guess what was located just down the highway from the front gate?
 
In 1942 there were three small gaming clubs in Las Vegas. It was a dusty cow town.

The way to legalize prostitution is to make it legal and turn it over to some mafia organized crime family. There won't be a single unregistered whore or pimp. There will still be the odd special service offering illegal activity but that's the price you pay for mostly following the law. Special services will never be wiped out.
 
I believe that if prostitution is made legal that it should be taxed no differently than any other business. Also it should not have overly burdensome regulation such that it may as well still be illegal.

Restaurants and medical facilities have industry specific health and safety regulations. No one cares if you have cockroaches in a body shop, but if you are selling food, it's a big deal.

Same thing goes for prostitution, health and safety regulations are part of the deal. AIDS and STD tests and cleanliness standards are a must.

The only way you may be able to regulate prostitution is to take the social stigma from it. Hopefully people would then cooperate with the regulations.

How are you going to stop people from not getting tested and doing it anyway simply because they dont want everyone else to know?

How do you stop people from selling hotdogs on the street without a license and health certificate?
 
Closure of prostitution website costly for sex workers - Houston Chronicle

To compare with debates on whether
homosexuality is normal for some people and should be accepted,
or whether people are going to feed drug addictions anyway so that should be
either legalized or decriminalized,

What about Prostitution?

If you believe drugs and prostitution should be decriminalized
in order to regulate safely, what level of laws do you support to prevent abuses
that are not the "free choice" of participants but pose a danger to public health or safety?

Where do you draw the line, why, and what do you suggest for reform?

In navada they haven't any problems with Prostitutionave... they have health care and they pay taxes ... in colorado they passed pot laws were you can go an buy pot at any time you feel like... after the first year they paid over a 100 million dollars in taxes ... this money goes to pay for police fire and rebuilding schools ... I realize you are trying to mkae this about homo's thats why you pick two vices that people enjoy ... I see nothing wrong with legalizing drugs I see nothing wronmg with Prostitution ... only the religious people in this country does...

Fatal car accidents in Colorado have tripled since pot was legalized.

Would you like to support that claim?
 
Restaurants and medical facilities have industry specific health and safety regulations. No one cares if you have cockroaches in a body shop, but if you are selling food, it's a big deal.

Same thing goes for prostitution, health and safety regulations are part of the deal. AIDS and STD tests and cleanliness standards are a must.

The only way you may be able to regulate prostitution is to take the social stigma from it. Hopefully people would then cooperate with the regulations.

How are you going to stop people from not getting tested and doing it anyway simply because they dont want everyone else to know?

How do you stop people from selling hotdogs on the street without a license and health certificate?

You dont. Last I heard most people dont have sex in the streets either.
 
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I don'y know about legalization, but I do know I would like to see death penalty for pimps who abuse and exploit these women.

Then you should support legalizing prostitution in legal brothels in all 57 states and territories of the United States and put the pimps out of business.
 
In navada they haven't any problems with Prostitutionave... they have health care and they pay taxes ... in colorado they passed pot laws were you can go an buy pot at any time you feel like... after the first year they paid over a 100 million dollars in taxes ... this money goes to pay for police fire and rebuilding schools ... I realize you are trying to mkae this about homo's thats why you pick two vices that people enjoy ... I see nothing wrong with legalizing drugs I see nothing wronmg with Prostitution ... only the religious people in this country does...

Fatal car accidents in Colorado have tripled since pot was legalized.

Would you like to support that claim?

I doubt she does, since it's completely and utterly false. I posted a link to the Colorado DOT fatal crash statistics earlier in the thread.
 
No. There will still be pimps. No matter how legal prostitution is. Someone wants to pay less or wants something the legal brothels don't sell.
 
I agree there will still be pimps. Thats precisely why it should be legalized. That way prostitutes have an avenue to report abuses instead of being afraid of getting arrested. Regulating it will not work no matter what.
 
I agree there will still be pimps. Thats precisely why it should be legalized. That way prostitutes have an avenue to report abuses instead of being afraid of getting arrested. Regulating it will not work no matter what.

Amsterdam has had legal prostitution for years. How's it working out for them?
 
Youre excused. You said it were I bolded your post.

You can say what you want to and post a million links. I've seen it with my own eyes and have links backing me up. The "business woman prostitute" is a small subset of prostitutes. Far and away most of them are abused by pimps, johns, and some are abused by wayward police officers.

I know because of the stuff you say and the way you say it. You never been in anything grittier than a pajama party.

If you go back and read that part you bolded you will see I never said they were victims.

Feel free to apologize.

I dont need to. I see it in your post. Thanks for apologizing.

You see stuff in my post I didn't say?

Here is what you quoted:
Let me get this straight, when given the opportunity for a lighter sentence if they claimed they were victims of human trafficking, most prostitutes claimed they were victims of human trafficking.

Did you notice the word claimed in that sentence? It is actually there twice, perhaps you should look it up in a dictionary.
 

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