CNN analyst: "I've never seen a witness who's lied to Congress, who's lied to court, who's lied to the IRS, who's lied to the Southern District ...

[Smokin' OP]

Is it really hard for you to believe that Cohen is lying(again)?

Cohen isn't the one on trial, Trump is.

Costello testified to the fact that Cohen told him that Trump didn’t know anything about the payoff.

Robert Costello contradicted Michael Cohen's sworn testimony regarding Trump's knowledge of the Stormy Daniels hush money payment, saying Cohen told him numerous times that "Trump knew nothing about those payments."

Costello offered a window into his initial meeting with Cohen, which he said took place on April 17, 2018, days after the FBI raided Cohen’s properties.

Not a fact but hearsay.

Cohen was STILL trying to protect Trump at the time.
Robert Costello, the witness whom Trump's defense team has just called to the stand, is no fan of Cohen. He is an ally of Rudy Giuliani who tried to persuade Cohen to stay loyal to Trump in 2018 after the FBI raided Cohen's properties.

Last week, Costello appeared before a GOP-led House subcommittee and accused Cohen of repeatedly lying on the witness stand during the hush money trial.

Any reasonable jury would find doubt at this point, but this is NYC and these may not be reasonable people, but TDS folks.

Trump's peers?

 

[Man With A Plan]

The problem is that Cohen wasn’t the only witness for the prosecution. Several witnesses said they were present when Trump said to do it. Audio recordings have Trump discussing the conspiracy.

You guys are trying to remake 12 Angry Men with the Trump case. It isn’t just one witness. Or even two. It was 20 witnesses for the prosecution. It was audio recordings. Canceled checks. Instructions from Trump to do it.

If you decide Cohen isn’t believable. What about the other 19 witnesses? Are they now irrelevant?

What 19 witnesses are you ranting about? The only witness that Bragg could come up with that links Trump to a "crime" is Michael Cohen and he just showed himself to be probably the worst witness in the history of US jurisprudence!

 

[Smokin' OP]

Did these 20 witnesses also mention that Trump has made moves in the past to cover-up potential negative stories? If so, why is this one necessarily campaign related?

Yes, David Pecker and Cohen.

David Pecker Mastered 'Catch-and-Kill' Tabloid Deals​

The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › 2024/05/13 › nyregion › da...
May 13, 2024 — Mr. Pecker helped broker hush-money payments with the porn star Stormy Daniels and a former Playboy model, Karen McDougal.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Cohen isn't the one on trial, Trump is.

Robert Costello contradicted Michael Cohen's sworn testimony regarding Trump's knowledge of the Stormy Daniels hush money payment, saying Cohen told him numerous times that "Trump knew nothing about those payments."

Costello offered a window into his initial meeting with Cohen, which he said took place on April 17, 2018, days after the FBI raided Cohen’s properties.

Not a fact but hearsay.

Cohen was STILL trying to protect Trump at the time.
Robert Costello, the witness whom Trump's defense team has just called to the stand, is no fan of Cohen. He is an ally of Rudy Giuliani who tried to persuade Cohen to stay loyal to Trump in 2018 after the FBI raided Cohen's properties.

Last week, Costello appeared before a GOP-led House subcommittee and accused Cohen of repeatedly lying on the witness stand during the hush money trial.

Trump's peers?

87% of that jury voted for Joe Biden. It's literally stacked against Trump. The judge is blatantly biased against Trump. The prosecutor literally ran for office on the promise to charge Trump. This case is SO bad however and Bragg has totally failed to prove Trump committed an actual crime...that I'm beginning to believe that even THIS jury will have to find him not guilty! If they don't...it will be such a glaring miscarriage of justice that it will result in undecided voters voting for Trump. This case is back firing on Joe Biden.

 

[JoeB131]

It was the prosecutors that told the judge dummy.

Trial Transcript, not my words...

Doesn't matter... everyone knows now what Trump did and why.

He's toast.

 

[JoeB131]

87% of that jury voted for Joe Biden. It's literally stacked against Trump. The judge is blatantly biased against Trump. The prosecutor literally ran for office on the promise to charge Trump. This case is SO bad however and Bragg has totally failed to prove Trump committed an actual crime...that I'm beginning to believe that even THIS jury will have to find him not guilty! If they don't...it will be such a glaring miscarriage of justice that it will result in undecided voters voting for Trump. This case is back firing on Joe Biden.

How do you know how they voted?

The crime has been pretty clearly proven! Trump faked business records to hide a payoff to a porn star to influence an election.

While this is making Trump Cultists angry, it's actually making everyone think twice about the horror of a Trump return to power.

 

[JoeB131]

Did these 20 witnesses also mention that Trump has made moves in the past to cover-up potential negative stories? If so, why is this one necessarily campaign related?

Because the payoff happened right after the Access Hollywood tape came out, and he boasted about how he can grab women by the pussy.

 

[Cellblock2429]

excalibur has no clue as to what is 'suborning perjury'

/----/ We know. It's what got Slick Willie Clinton impeached and the loss of his law license for 7 years.

U.S. Law[edit]​

In American federal law, Title 18 U.S.C. § 1622 provides:

Whoever procures another to commit any perjury is guilty of subornation of perjury, and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

The term subornation of perjury further describes the circumstance wherein an attorney at law causes a client to lie under oath or, allows another party to lie under oath.[1][2]

In California law, per the state bar code,[3] the subornation of perjury constitutes an act of "moral turpitude" on the part of the attorney, and thus, is cause for their disbarment, or for the suspension of their license to practice law.[4]

 

[JoeB131]

/----/ We know. It's what got Slick Willie Clinton impeached and the loss of his law license for 7 years.

So how is Clinton getting a blow job worse than Trump raping the porn star?

 

[Cellblock2429]

So how is Clinton getting a blow job worse than Trump raping the porn star?

/----/ Are you playing stupid or a genuine blithering idiot? Clinton lied to a federal judge and suborned perjury. Where is the police report of Trump committing rape? Where is the conviction and sentencing?

Educate yourself so you stop embarrassing yourself here.

Subornation of perjury - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Smokin' OP]

87% of that jury voted for Joe Biden.

Really?
You know this how?

It's literally stacked against Trump.

Evidence is like that.

The judge is blatantly biased against Trump.

So.........What brought that on?

Trump blasts his trial judges. Then his fans call for violence.​

Reuters
https://www.reuters.com › usa-election-threats-courts
7 days ago — The judges in both of Trump's New York cases issued gag orders barring him from attacking judicial staff and, in Merchan's court, witnesses, ...

The prosecutor literally ran for office on the promise to charge Trump.

Sure.........

This case is SO bad however and Bragg has totally failed to prove Trump committed an actual crime...

WOW..................
Bragg didn't, but his witnesses did.

that I'm beginning to believe that even THIS jury will have to find him not guilty!

I bet you do, just like your dear leader.

That's why Trump is constantly asking for mistrials? LOL.

Judge Again Denies Trump Lawyers' Request for a Mistrial​

The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › trump-trial-stormy-daniels
May 9, 2024 — The judge denied the request and Mr. Trump's second motion this week for a mistrial. The former president is accused of falsifying business ...

Trump defense again asks for mistrial after prosecution ...​

Central Oregon Daily
https://www.centraloregondaily.com › nation-world › tr...
12 hours ago — Trump lawyer Emil Bove told the judge that the defense does not plan to call any other witnesses after Costello, though they may still call ...

Trump KNOWS...........He's toast.

If they don't...it will be such a glaring miscarriage of justice that it will result in undecided voters voting for Trump. This case is back firing on Joe Biden.

Sure..............Because Trump knows what "REAL" crimes are.

 

[JoeB131]

/----/ Are you playing stupid or a genuine blithering idiot? Clinton lied to a federal judge and suborned perjury. Where is the police report of Trump committing rape? Where is the conviction and sentencing?

Well, there's that 83 million dollar fine he paid for raping E. Jean Carroll.

You do realize that only 3% of rapes result in a conviction, right?

 

[SavannahMann]

Did these 20 witnesses also mention that Trump has made moves in the past to cover-up potential negative stories? If so, why is this one necessarily campaign related?

Well that brings us back to Pecker who was the first witness doesn’t it?

 

[SavannahMann]

What 19 witnesses are you ranting about? The only witness that Bragg could come up with that links Trump to a "crime" is Michael Cohen and he just showed himself to be probably the worst witness in the history of US jurisprudence!

What was the trial about for two weeks before Cohen testified?

 

[Cellblock2429]

Well, there's that 83 million dollar fine he paid for raping E. Jean Carroll.

You do realize that only 3% of rapes result in a conviction, right?

/——/ stop lying

 

[JoeB131]

/——/ stop lying

Stop being a hypocrite.

You guys made Bill Clinton's life fairly miserable over far less egregious behavior.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Stop being a hypocrite.

You guys made Bill Clinton's life fairly miserable over far less egregious behavior.

/---/ If that was all he did, and he did not commit perjury, you'd be correct.
Here's a list of the Clinton scandals.

Clinton Scandals: A Guide From Whitewater To The Clinton Foundation

Donald Trump has promised to deliver a speech this week that will address Bill and Hillary Clinton's scandals. Here's a breakdown of those scandals and their outcomes.

www.npr.org

 

[JoeB131]

/---/ If that was all he did, and he did not commit perjury, you'd be correct.
Here's a list of the Clinton scandals.

Yet Ken Starr spent 70 million dollars and couldn't find wrongdoing in any of that.

 

[Wapasha]

I don't bother to read anything you post. I'll take the word of prosecutors over a shithouse lawyer.

That said, this is like getting Al Capone on income tax evasion. You know he's done much worse stuff, you know he's an irredeemable, evil son-of-a-bitch. So I kind of don't care about the legal niceties.

If a Jury convicts him, and I hope they do, that's good enough.

his cultists won't care he's a convicted felon, but regular folks might.

That is lynch mob mentality. But then again, it was the Democrats who ran around in hoods lynching people. The apple never falls far from the tree. Democrats show who and what they are, and they never change. The Democratic Party has always been the home of the lawless lynch party mob, always will be.

 

[JoeB131]

That is lynch mob mentality. But then again, it was the Democrats who ran around in hoods lynching people. The apple never falls far from the tree. Democrats show who and what they are, and they never change. The Democratic Party has always been the home of the lawless lynch party mob, always will be.

Oh, please, all the "lynchers" joined the GOP after Nixon's Southern strategy