Detroit Public Schools: 93% Not Proficient in Reading; 96% Not Proficient in Math

[Correll]

One problem with industrial cities is they become magnets for the unemployed, the unemployed go to those cities looking for work. When too many unemployed descend on an area they begin to have problems. Add to that, if the manufacturing sector makes errors and lose sales or less workers are needed, we now have a city with real problems.

Sure, it's all the unemployed people moving to Detroit that accounts for its illiteracy and innumeracy. Apparently there are swarms of people moving to Motown to get jobs and ensure their children's education.

whew

Sounds to me like Regent is claiming that only dumbasses are moving to Detroit. Since the percentages were for 8th graders (13 - 14 year olds), did they move to Detroit looking for jobs since he claims the unemployed flock to the cities looking for work? I thought there were laws against working at that age.

This going to industrial cities for jobs has been going on since the industrial revolution gained momentum and Jefferson's nation of small farms gradually lost momentum. Unfortunately many of Detroit's jobs depended on the auto industry and when VW began to import a small dependable car and Detroit's response was bigger tail fins,
we lost many of those jobs.

That occurred a long time ago.

Why has that problem not been solved?

Foreign car-building nations got their foot in the American auto market and never let go.

Sure, back in the 70s.

YOu telling me that there has been no adjustment to this new reality by the people of Detroit since then? THey have just been standing around waiting for those jobs to come back?

 

[Mad Scientist]

Because Bush.

Because Reagan Tax Cuts.

Because Racism.

 

[Meathead]

One problem with industrial cities is they become magnets for the unemployed, the unemployed go to those cities looking for work. When too many unemployed descend on an area they begin to have problems. Add to that, if the manufacturing sector makes errors and lose sales or less workers are needed, we now have a city with real problems.

Sure, it's all the unemployed people moving to Detroit that accounts for its illiteracy and innumeracy. Apparently there are swarms of people moving to Motown to get jobs and ensure their children's education.

whew

Sounds to me like Regent is claiming that only dumbasses are moving to Detroit. Since the percentages were for 8th graders (13 - 14 year olds), did they move to Detroit looking for jobs since he claims the unemployed flock to the cities looking for work? I thought there were laws against working at that age.

This going to industrial cities for jobs has been going on since the industrial revolution gained momentum and Jefferson's nation of small farms gradually lost momentum. Unfortunately many of Detroit's jobs depended on the auto industry and when VW began to import a small dependable car and Detroit's response was bigger tail fins,
we lost many of those jobs.

That occurred a long time ago.

Why has that problem not been solved?

Foreign car-building nations got their foot in the American auto market and never let go.

You mean countries like Japan took over from a semi-literate, unionized and overpaid workforce? This was Detroit btw. What could have possibly gone wrong?!

 

[Conservative65]

Sure, it's all the unemployed people moving to Detroit that accounts for its illiteracy and innumeracy. Apparently there are swarms of people moving to Motown to get jobs and ensure their children's education.

whew

Sounds to me like Regent is claiming that only dumbasses are moving to Detroit. Since the percentages were for 8th graders (13 - 14 year olds), did they move to Detroit looking for jobs since he claims the unemployed flock to the cities looking for work? I thought there were laws against working at that age.

This going to industrial cities for jobs has been going on since the industrial revolution gained momentum and Jefferson's nation of small farms gradually lost momentum. Unfortunately many of Detroit's jobs depended on the auto industry and when VW began to import a small dependable car and Detroit's response was bigger tail fins,
we lost many of those jobs.

That occurred a long time ago.

Why has that problem not been solved?

Foreign car-building nations got their foot in the American auto market and never let go.

You mean countries like Japan took over from a semi-literate, unionized and overpaid workforce? This was Detroit btw. What could have possibly gone wrong?!

You had people in Japan that were willing to work for a living taking over those who were willing to vote for one.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Detroit public schools are the perfect breeding ground for low information Democrat voters

 

[Meathead]

Detroit public schools are the perfect breeding ground for low information Democrat voters

I am afeared that political correctness is afearing you from the obvious.

 

[Correll]

Sure, it's all the unemployed people moving to Detroit that accounts for its illiteracy and innumeracy. Apparently there are swarms of people moving to Motown to get jobs and ensure their children's education.

whew

Sounds to me like Regent is claiming that only dumbasses are moving to Detroit. Since the percentages were for 8th graders (13 - 14 year olds), did they move to Detroit looking for jobs since he claims the unemployed flock to the cities looking for work? I thought there were laws against working at that age.

This going to industrial cities for jobs has been going on since the industrial revolution gained momentum and Jefferson's nation of small farms gradually lost momentum. Unfortunately many of Detroit's jobs depended on the auto industry and when VW began to import a small dependable car and Detroit's response was bigger tail fins,
we lost many of those jobs.

That occurred a long time ago.

Why has that problem not been solved?

Foreign car-building nations got their foot in the American auto market and never let go.

You mean countries like Japan took over from a semi-literate, unionized and overpaid workforce? This was Detroit btw. What could have possibly gone wrong?!

Lets not overstate the role of the Detroit workforce in the Fall of Detroit. It was a big part of it, but there were other factors such as Bad Management and Bad Trade Policy.

BUT, regardless, that was 40 years ago.

Why has this problem not been solved?

How long are you going to use that as an excuse for the failures of a Democratic City and a black population?

 

[Meathead]

Sounds to me like Regent is claiming that only dumbasses are moving to Detroit. Since the percentages were for 8th graders (13 - 14 year olds), did they move to Detroit looking for jobs since he claims the unemployed flock to the cities looking for work? I thought there were laws against working at that age.

This going to industrial cities for jobs has been going on since the industrial revolution gained momentum and Jefferson's nation of small farms gradually lost momentum. Unfortunately many of Detroit's jobs depended on the auto industry and when VW began to import a small dependable car and Detroit's response was bigger tail fins,
we lost many of those jobs.

That occurred a long time ago.

Why has that problem not been solved?

Foreign car-building nations got their foot in the American auto market and never let go.

You mean countries like Japan took over from a semi-literate, unionized and overpaid workforce? This was Detroit btw. What could have possibly gone wrong?!

Lets not overstate the role of the Detroit workforce in the Fall of Detroit. It was a big part of it, but there were other factors such as Bad Management and Bad Trade Policy.

BUT, regardless, that was 40 years ago.

Why has this problem not been solved?

How long are you going to use that as an excuse for the failures of a Democratic City and a black population?

Let's go back then to the premise of the thread. That should not be difficult to understand. Who would build a Silicon Valley in Africa, right?

 

[Correll]

This going to industrial cities for jobs has been going on since the industrial revolution gained momentum and Jefferson's nation of small farms gradually lost momentum. Unfortunately many of Detroit's jobs depended on the auto industry and when VW began to import a small dependable car and Detroit's response was bigger tail fins,
we lost many of those jobs.

That occurred a long time ago.

Why has that problem not been solved?

Foreign car-building nations got their foot in the American auto market and never let go.

You mean countries like Japan took over from a semi-literate, unionized and overpaid workforce? This was Detroit btw. What could have possibly gone wrong?!

Lets not overstate the role of the Detroit workforce in the Fall of Detroit. It was a big part of it, but there were other factors such as Bad Management and Bad Trade Policy.

BUT, regardless, that was 40 years ago.

Why has this problem not been solved?

How long are you going to use that as an excuse for the failures of a Democratic City and a black population?

Let's go back then to the premise of the thread. That should not be difficult to understand. Who would build a Silicon Valley in Africa, right?

BUt why the failure?

As shown in tHE op, it's not lack of money.


And you don't need high IQ's to read at grade level.

IMO, it's probably the breakdown of the family, lack of fathers.

 

[WelfareQueen]

“We need to spend more tax dollars on education.” --- (the voice of scores of governors, congressmen, and state political leaders.)

Why? To support the self-serving teachers’ unions? To prove once again that a lack of money is not the reason USA students fair so poorly compared to far less privileged countries around the world?

Keep that tenure program rolling though. Don’t anyone dare compensate teachers based on performance, keep it longevity.

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http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/detroit-public-schools-93-not-proficient-reading-96-not-proficient

By Terence P. Jeffrey | October 28, 2015 | 4:15 PM EDT

(CNSNews.com) - In the Detroit public school district, 96 percent of eighth graders are not proficient in mathematics and 93 percent are not proficient in reading.

That is according to the results of the 2015 National Assessment of Educational Progress tests published by the Department of Education’s National Center for Educational Statistics.

Only 4 percent of Detroit public school eighth graders are proficient or better in math and only 7 percent in reading. This is despite the fact that in the 2011-2012 school year—the latest for which the Department of Education has reported the financial data—the Detroit public schools had “total expenditures” of $18,361 per student and “current expenditures” of $13,330 per student.

According to data published by the Detroit Public Schools, the school district’s operating expenses in the fiscal year that ended on June 30, 2014 amounted to approximately $14,743 per student.

Nationwide, only 33 percent of public-school eighth graders scored proficient or better in reading in 2015 and only 32 percent scored proficient or better in mathematics.

In 2015, 21 large urban school districts participated in the NAEP tests in reading and mathematics as part of what the Department of Education calls its Trial Urban District Assessment (TUDA). Among these 21 districts, the Detroit Public Schools had the smallest percentages of eighth graders scoring proficient or better in reading and math.

In reading, the Cleveland public schools were next to last among the large urban school districts with only 11 percent scoring proficient or better. Baltimore and Fresno were tied for third worst with only 13 percent scoring proficient or better; and Philadelphia ranked fifth worst with only 16 percent scoring proficient or better.

The Cleveland public schools also ranked next to last in math, with only 9 percent of eight graders scoring proficient or better. Baltimore and Fresno were also tied for third worst in math, with only 12 percent scoring proficient or better; and Los Angeles ranked fifth worst with 15 percent scoring proficient or better in math.

The Department of Education has published fiscal information on the Detroit public schools for the 2011-2012 school year. That year, the Detroit Public Schools had total expenditures of $1,231,375,000, equaling $18,361 per student. $271,358,000 of the school district's funding for the 2011-2012 school year came from the federal government.

Democrat Socialism at work.

 

[Meathead]

That occurred a long time ago.

Why has that problem not been solved?

Foreign car-building nations got their foot in the American auto market and never let go.

You mean countries like Japan took over from a semi-literate, unionized and overpaid workforce? This was Detroit btw. What could have possibly gone wrong?!

Lets not overstate the role of the Detroit workforce in the Fall of Detroit. It was a big part of it, but there were other factors such as Bad Management and Bad Trade Policy.

BUT, regardless, that was 40 years ago.

Why has this problem not been solved?

How long are you going to use that as an excuse for the failures of a Democratic City and a black population?

Let's go back then to the premise of the thread. That should not be difficult to understand. Who would build a Silicon Valley in Africa, right?

BUt why the failure?

As shown in tHE op, it's not lack of money.


And you don't need high IQ's to read at grade level.

IMO, it's probably the breakdown of the family, lack of fathers.

You need at least an average IQ to be successful. That's where it all breaks down. The other things you mention that lead to failure are, in my opinion, simply a result of the same.

 

[Correll]

Foreign car-building nations got their foot in the American auto market and never let go.

You mean countries like Japan took over from a semi-literate, unionized and overpaid workforce? This was Detroit btw. What could have possibly gone wrong?!

Lets not overstate the role of the Detroit workforce in the Fall of Detroit. It was a big part of it, but there were other factors such as Bad Management and Bad Trade Policy.

BUT, regardless, that was 40 years ago.

Why has this problem not been solved?

How long are you going to use that as an excuse for the failures of a Democratic City and a black population?

Let's go back then to the premise of the thread. That should not be difficult to understand. Who would build a Silicon Valley in Africa, right?

BUt why the failure?

As shown in tHE op, it's not lack of money.


And you don't need high IQ's to read at grade level.

IMO, it's probably the breakdown of the family, lack of fathers.

You need at least an average IQ to be successful. That's where it all breaks down. The other things you mention that lead to failure are, in my opinion, simply a result of the same.

It certainly helps.

What percentage of the Black Population is in the Average Range?

I know that it is well beyond the single digits suggested by the numbers in the OP.

So some other factor is driving this failure.

 

[gipper]

One problem with industrial cities is they become magnets for the unemployed, the unemployed go to those cities looking for work. When too many unemployed descend on an area they begin to have problems. Add to that, if the manufacturing sector makes errors and lose sales or less workers are needed, we now have a city with real problems.

How does this apply to Detroit? It has lost over 1 million residents since 1960.

 

[gipper]

One problem with industrial cities is they become magnets for the unemployed, the unemployed go to those cities looking for work. When too many unemployed descend on an area they begin to have problems. Add to that, if the manufacturing sector makes errors and lose sales or less workers are needed, we now have a city with real problems.

Sure, it's all the unemployed people moving to Detroit that accounts for its illiteracy and innumeracy. Apparently there are swarms of people moving to Motown to get jobs and ensure their children's education.

whew

Sounds to me like Regent is claiming that only dumbasses are moving to Detroit. Since the percentages were for 8th graders (13 - 14 year olds), did they move to Detroit looking for jobs since he claims the unemployed flock to the cities looking for work? I thought there were laws against working at that age.

This going to industrial cities for jobs has been going on since the industrial revolution gained momentum and Jefferson's nation of small farms gradually lost momentum. Unfortunately many of Detroit's jobs depended on the auto industry and when VW began to import a small dependable car and Detroit's response was bigger tail fins,
we lost many of those jobs.

That occurred a long time ago.

Why has that problem not been solved?

Foreign car-building nations got their foot in the American auto market and never let go.

They always had a foot here. This was not a problem until the Big Three started making really shitty cars in the mid 70s. Along with our shitty government imposing unleaded gas and making us dependent on a bunch of crazy oil rich Muslim nations.

 

[gipper]

One problem with industrial cities is they become magnets for the unemployed, the unemployed go to those cities looking for work. When too many unemployed descend on an area they begin to have problems. Add to that, if the manufacturing sector makes errors and lose sales or less workers are needed, we now have a city with real problems.

Sure, it's all the unemployed people moving to Detroit that accounts for its illiteracy and innumeracy. Apparently there are swarms of people moving to Motown to get jobs and ensure their children's education.

whew

Sounds to me like Regent is claiming that only dumbasses are moving to Detroit. Since the percentages were for 8th graders (13 - 14 year olds), did they move to Detroit looking for jobs since he claims the unemployed flock to the cities looking for work? I thought there were laws against working at that age.

This going to industrial cities for jobs has been going on since the industrial revolution gained momentum and Jefferson's nation of small farms gradually lost momentum. Unfortunately many of Detroit's jobs depended on the auto industry and when VW began to import a small dependable car and Detroit's response was bigger tail fins,
we lost many of those jobs.

VW had nothing to do with it. It was cheap and very dependable Japanese cars.

 

[Meathead]

Does anybody expect a completely black city or neighborhood to be successful?

 

[Meathead]

One problem with industrial cities is they become magnets for the unemployed, the unemployed go to those cities looking for work. When too many unemployed descend on an area they begin to have problems. Add to that, if the manufacturing sector makes errors and lose sales or less workers are needed, we now have a city with real problems.

Sure, it's all the unemployed people moving to Detroit that accounts for its illiteracy and innumeracy. Apparently there are swarms of people moving to Motown to get jobs and ensure their children's education.

whew

Sounds to me like Regent is claiming that only dumbasses are moving to Detroit. Since the percentages were for 8th graders (13 - 14 year olds), did they move to Detroit looking for jobs since he claims the unemployed flock to the cities looking for work? I thought there were laws against working at that age.

This going to industrial cities for jobs has been going on since the industrial revolution gained momentum and Jefferson's nation of small farms gradually lost momentum. Unfortunately many of Detroit's jobs depended on the auto industry and when VW began to import a small dependable car and Detroit's response was bigger tail fins,
we lost many of those jobs.

VW had nothing to do with it. It was cheap and very dependable Japanese cars.

Regardless, how could Ford or any other company hope to compete against East Asians with a black workforce?

Africa is no different. Why would anyone invest?

 

[gipper]

One problem with industrial cities is they become magnets for the unemployed, the unemployed go to those cities looking for work. When too many unemployed descend on an area they begin to have problems. Add to that, if the manufacturing sector makes errors and lose sales or less workers are needed, we now have a city with real problems.

Sure, it's all the unemployed people moving to Detroit that accounts for its illiteracy and innumeracy. Apparently there are swarms of people moving to Motown to get jobs and ensure their children's education.

whew

Sounds to me like Regent is claiming that only dumbasses are moving to Detroit. Since the percentages were for 8th graders (13 - 14 year olds), did they move to Detroit looking for jobs since he claims the unemployed flock to the cities looking for work? I thought there were laws against working at that age.

This going to industrial cities for jobs has been going on since the industrial revolution gained momentum and Jefferson's nation of small farms gradually lost momentum. Unfortunately many of Detroit's jobs depended on the auto industry and when VW began to import a small dependable car and Detroit's response was bigger tail fins,
we lost many of those jobs.

VW had nothing to do with it. It was cheap and very dependable Japanese cars.

Regardless, how could Ford or any other company hope to compete against East Asians with a black workforce?

Ford's work force was never all or even mostly black in the 70s. True for GM and Chrysler too.

 

[gipper]

And to work the assembly line, one hardly needed the ability to read and write.

 

[Meathead]

Ford's work force was never all or even mostly black in the 70s. True for GM and Chrysler too.

BINGO!!!