DACA issue brings out the hateful un-Americans

[Slade3200]

I don't think depeorting the dreamers or trying to deport 10+million people for that matter is a realistic or smart solution/punishment. There needs to be a pathway coupled with better border security if you really want a solution.

Darling, don't you get it

If we would have been enforcing our immigration laws
and not enticing people to illegally enter our country
we wouldn't be dealing with those number of illegal immigrants

We have to send a message
using those, who will have to be the example

Collectively, those who are here illegally,
will have to face what they've tried to avoid...deportation

See you lost me there. You don't send a message at the expense of innocent people. That is just plane wrong. We can send a message by better securing our borders and better tracking people who are visiting our country. We can make the immigration process better so it isn't an impossible mountain to climb... There are plenty of things that we can do that better upholds the values that most identify with our great country...

“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

See you lost me there. You don't send a message at the expense of innocent people. That is just plane wrong

Well, you certainly don't send the wrong message
and you certainly don't allow illegal immigrants
to dictate their own immigration policies and laws!

Look, DACA is a pay to stay program
It's wrong to pick and choose who will be deported
Its not fair for one kid to stay and another to have to leave
Its not fair for a mother to stay but a childless woman to leave
Its not fair for one family unit to stay but another family unit can't

Life is not fair and there will always be
innocent casualties because of someone else's choices

Sparing consequences doesn't help people to grow
allowing them does, no matter how unfair it seems

They adjusted when they came to America,
they'll adjust when they're back in Mexico

Innocence or not, this country has immigration laws...
breaking these laws has consequences
we are responsible for enforcing our laws
not for the fallout and casualties of their consequences

If I took my child to a Holiday Inn and that child broke the TV in the room, the Holiday Inn would have every right to KICK BOTH THE CHILD AND ME OUT OF THE HOTEL.

Wow, what a great analogy, did you think of that all by yourself?

So to bring it back to reality... what TV did the dreamer children break?

 

[Pop23]

I don't think depeorting the dreamers or trying to deport 10+million people for that matter is a realistic or smart solution/punishment. There needs to be a pathway coupled with better border security if you really want a solution.

Darling, don't you get it

If we would have been enforcing our immigration laws
and not enticing people to illegally enter our country
we wouldn't be dealing with those number of illegal immigrants

We have to send a message
using those, who will have to be the example

Collectively, those who are here illegally,
will have to face what they've tried to avoid...deportation

See you lost me there. You don't send a message at the expense of innocent people. That is just plane wrong. We can send a message by better securing our borders and better tracking people who are visiting our country. We can make the immigration process better so it isn't an impossible mountain to climb... There are plenty of things that we can do that better upholds the values that most identify with our great country...

“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

See you lost me there. You don't send a message at the expense of innocent people. That is just plane wrong

Well, you certainly don't send the wrong message
and you certainly don't allow illegal immigrants
to dictate their own immigration policies and laws!

Look, DACA is a pay to stay program
It's wrong to pick and choose who will be deported
Its not fair for one kid to stay and another to have to leave
Its not fair for a mother to stay but a childless woman to leave
Its not fair for one family unit to stay but another family unit can't

Life is not fair and there will always be
innocent casualties because of someone else's choices

Sparing consequences doesn't help people to grow
allowing them does, no matter how unfair it seems

They adjusted when they came to America,
they'll adjust when they're back in Mexico

Innocence or not, this country has immigration laws...
breaking these laws has consequences
we are responsible for enforcing our laws
not for the fallout and casualties of their consequences

If I took my child to a Holiday Inn and that child broke the TV in the room, the Holiday Inn would have every right to KICK BOTH THE CHILD AND ME OUT OF THE HOTEL.

Wow, what a great analogy, did you think of that all by yourself?

So to bring it back to reality... what TV did the dreamer children break?

We already know your a heartless bastard.

Does the Inn owner have that right or not. Is that punishing the child.

Just like when I asked you if you would be a heartless bastard by expelling a squatters child from your home.

You like flipping the problemon the American people instead of on the people who caused the problem.

The heartless bastard is the parent. Not us.

 

[Slade3200]

Darling, don't you get it

If we would have been enforcing our immigration laws
and not enticing people to illegally enter our country
we wouldn't be dealing with those number of illegal immigrants

We have to send a message
using those, who will have to be the example

Collectively, those who are here illegally,
will have to face what they've tried to avoid...deportation

See you lost me there. You don't send a message at the expense of innocent people. That is just plane wrong. We can send a message by better securing our borders and better tracking people who are visiting our country. We can make the immigration process better so it isn't an impossible mountain to climb... There are plenty of things that we can do that better upholds the values that most identify with our great country...

“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

See you lost me there. You don't send a message at the expense of innocent people. That is just plane wrong

Well, you certainly don't send the wrong message
and you certainly don't allow illegal immigrants
to dictate their own immigration policies and laws!

Look, DACA is a pay to stay program
It's wrong to pick and choose who will be deported
Its not fair for one kid to stay and another to have to leave
Its not fair for a mother to stay but a childless woman to leave
Its not fair for one family unit to stay but another family unit can't

Life is not fair and there will always be
innocent casualties because of someone else's choices

Sparing consequences doesn't help people to grow
allowing them does, no matter how unfair it seems

They adjusted when they came to America,
they'll adjust when they're back in Mexico

Innocence or not, this country has immigration laws...
breaking these laws has consequences
we are responsible for enforcing our laws
not for the fallout and casualties of their consequences

If I took my child to a Holiday Inn and that child broke the TV in the room, the Holiday Inn would have every right to KICK BOTH THE CHILD AND ME OUT OF THE HOTEL.

Wow, what a great analogy, did you think of that all by yourself?

So to bring it back to reality... what TV did the dreamer children break?

We already know your a heartless bastard.

Does the Inn owner have that right or not. Is that punishing the child.

Just like when I asked you if you would be a heartless bastard by expelling a squatters child from your home.

You like flipping the problemon the American people instead of on the people who caused the problem.

The heartless bastard is the parent. Not us.

You love using examples that are completely different from the actual situation. Coming to a country to try and work, survive, contribute and achieve a successful life and not the same as squatting in somebodies private residence or breaking a hotel TV. Its an absurd comparison. Plus you never answered my question... What "TV" did the dreamers break?

 

[Liquid Reigns]

See you lost me there. You don't send a message at the expense of innocent people. That is just plane wrong. We can send a message by better securing our borders and better tracking people who are visiting our country. We can make the immigration process better so it isn't an impossible mountain to climb... There are plenty of things that we can do that better upholds the values that most identify with our great country...

“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

See you lost me there. You don't send a message at the expense of innocent people. That is just plane wrong

Well, you certainly don't send the wrong message
and you certainly don't allow illegal immigrants
to dictate their own immigration policies and laws!

Look, DACA is a pay to stay program
It's wrong to pick and choose who will be deported
Its not fair for one kid to stay and another to have to leave
Its not fair for a mother to stay but a childless woman to leave
Its not fair for one family unit to stay but another family unit can't

Life is not fair and there will always be
innocent casualties because of someone else's choices

Sparing consequences doesn't help people to grow
allowing them does, no matter how unfair it seems

They adjusted when they came to America,
they'll adjust when they're back in Mexico

Innocence or not, this country has immigration laws...
breaking these laws has consequences
we are responsible for enforcing our laws
not for the fallout and casualties of their consequences

If I took my child to a Holiday Inn and that child broke the TV in the room, the Holiday Inn would have every right to KICK BOTH THE CHILD AND ME OUT OF THE HOTEL.

Wow, what a great analogy, did you think of that all by yourself?

So to bring it back to reality... what TV did the dreamer children break?

We already know your a heartless bastard.

Does the Inn owner have that right or not. Is that punishing the child.

Just like when I asked you if you would be a heartless bastard by expelling a squatters child from your home.

You like flipping the problemon the American people instead of on the people who caused the problem.

The heartless bastard is the parent. Not us.

You love using examples that are completely different from the actual situation. Coming to a country to try and work, survive, contribute and achieve a successful life and not the same as squatting in somebodies private residence or breaking a hotel TV. Its an absurd comparison. Plus you never answered my question... What "TV" did the dreamers break?

Any more absurd then you thinking of them as refugees? Refugees are sent back home when their status is no longer needed. So in essence you are agreeing DACA people should be sent back. LOL

 

[Pop23]

See you lost me there. You don't send a message at the expense of innocent people. That is just plane wrong. We can send a message by better securing our borders and better tracking people who are visiting our country. We can make the immigration process better so it isn't an impossible mountain to climb... There are plenty of things that we can do that better upholds the values that most identify with our great country...

“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

See you lost me there. You don't send a message at the expense of innocent people. That is just plane wrong

Well, you certainly don't send the wrong message
and you certainly don't allow illegal immigrants
to dictate their own immigration policies and laws!

Look, DACA is a pay to stay program
It's wrong to pick and choose who will be deported
Its not fair for one kid to stay and another to have to leave
Its not fair for a mother to stay but a childless woman to leave
Its not fair for one family unit to stay but another family unit can't

Life is not fair and there will always be
innocent casualties because of someone else's choices

Sparing consequences doesn't help people to grow
allowing them does, no matter how unfair it seems

They adjusted when they came to America,
they'll adjust when they're back in Mexico

Innocence or not, this country has immigration laws...
breaking these laws has consequences
we are responsible for enforcing our laws
not for the fallout and casualties of their consequences

If I took my child to a Holiday Inn and that child broke the TV in the room, the Holiday Inn would have every right to KICK BOTH THE CHILD AND ME OUT OF THE HOTEL.

Wow, what a great analogy, did you think of that all by yourself?

So to bring it back to reality... what TV did the dreamer children break?

We already know your a heartless bastard.

Does the Inn owner have that right or not. Is that punishing the child.

Just like when I asked you if you would be a heartless bastard by expelling a squatters child from your home.

You like flipping the problemon the American people instead of on the people who caused the problem.

The heartless bastard is the parent. Not us.

You love using examples that are completely different from the actual situation. Coming to a country to try and work, survive, contribute and achieve a successful life and not the same as squatting in somebodies private residence or breaking a hotel TV. Its an absurd comparison. Plus you never answered my question... What "TV" did the dreamers break?

You are making absurd assumptions. How the hell do you know the squatters aren't looking to make a better life. They only want to live in your home so they can work in a better job and give their kids a better education.

Jebus youre a heartless bastard.

 

[jc456]

Why do tax paying Americans not have the same opportunities
and financial relief as any of them?

They should. Now you answer my question

They should. Now answer my question.

We should, but we don't!

They deserve opportunities in their country!

Instead of illegally entering our country
they should be doing whatever is necessary
to bring about the change necessary in Mexico
for future generations to come.

Why must we pay for the opportunities
they are afforded, at our own expense?

I live in a 98% predominantly Hispanic neighborhood,
The city has built at least, 5 new, state of the art,
grammar schools and high schools, complete with
indoor pools, soccer fields, cafeteria's, air conditioning,
top notch computer labs, science labs, offering an array of
sports, marching bands, musical instruments...etc

every existing public school by my house,
had annexes added onto the surrounding free space

This was done to accommodate the explosion of
Hispanic children that flooded our city and the area.

This comes at a hefty cost,
a cost that they haven't had to contribute to.

We are strapped for cash as it is,
because of our corrupted politicians,
then add the burden of schooling, feeding,
providing medical care, dental care, braces,
eye glasses, for immigrants who feel
they are entitled to opportunities at the expense of others.

You know, all I can do at this point,
with everything that's going on,
is lift my arms to Heaven and say, Jesus come quickly!

I don't understand how people can not do basic math

We are talking about dreamers right now. They were brought here by no choice of their own and they have lived their whole lives here. This is their country and their home. But you want to kick them out? How does that make any sense at all?

We are talking about dreamers right now. They were brought here by no choice of their own and they have lived their whole lives here.

Dreamers alright... always dreaming up ways
to illegally stay here, at our expense....
this time, using children as pawns

This is their country and their home.

They decided this was their country...
They made this country their home...illegally

But you want to kick them out? How does that make any sense at all?

DACA

DEFERRED ACTION for CHILDHOOD ARRIVALS

Deferred...put off

We put off deporting them as children,
now, they're adults who need to depart
and legally, go through the process,

Makes perfect sense

No we defer deporting them so they can seek education and employment while we wait for congress to pull their heads out of their asses and come up with immigration reform to legalize them in a official way. It is whats going to happen and you are going to have to deal with that reality. It was Obamas plan and it sounds like it is Trumps plan as well.

 

[jc456]

It's only fair for dreamers to wait in line legally like everybody else should...

I disagree. Refugees don't wait in the same line as "everybody else" are you going to stomp your feet about that as well?

It's far too easy for illegal aliens and refugees to get into this country, that's part of the reason why this country is failing… A free ride benefits nobody

I disagree, I know shocking. I don't think our country is failing at all. I still see America as the greatest country on Earth. Where are you getting this "Free ride" notion from? Last time I checked, legal or illegal immigrants need to work to pay the bills. The illegal ones are doing the shit jobs for very little pay.

again, illegals are not immigrants. fk I hate when stupid like you fill the airways.

 

[Slade3200]

Well, you certainly don't send the wrong message
and you certainly don't allow illegal immigrants
to dictate their own immigration policies and laws!

Look, DACA is a pay to stay program
It's wrong to pick and choose who will be deported
Its not fair for one kid to stay and another to have to leave
Its not fair for a mother to stay but a childless woman to leave
Its not fair for one family unit to stay but another family unit can't

Life is not fair and there will always be
innocent casualties because of someone else's choices

Sparing consequences doesn't help people to grow
allowing them does, no matter how unfair it seems

They adjusted when they came to America,
they'll adjust when they're back in Mexico

Innocence or not, this country has immigration laws...
breaking these laws has consequences
we are responsible for enforcing our laws
not for the fallout and casualties of their consequences

If I took my child to a Holiday Inn and that child broke the TV in the room, the Holiday Inn would have every right to KICK BOTH THE CHILD AND ME OUT OF THE HOTEL.

Wow, what a great analogy, did you think of that all by yourself?

So to bring it back to reality... what TV did the dreamer children break?

We already know your a heartless bastard.

Does the Inn owner have that right or not. Is that punishing the child.

Just like when I asked you if you would be a heartless bastard by expelling a squatters child from your home.

You like flipping the problemon the American people instead of on the people who caused the problem.

The heartless bastard is the parent. Not us.

You love using examples that are completely different from the actual situation. Coming to a country to try and work, survive, contribute and achieve a successful life and not the same as squatting in somebodies private residence or breaking a hotel TV. Its an absurd comparison. Plus you never answered my question... What "TV" did the dreamers break?

Any more absurd then you thinking of them as refugees? Refugees are sent back home when their status is no longer needed. So in essence you are agreeing DACA people should be sent back. LOL

Sounds like you're not understanding me. DACA kids did not break the law, they were brought here, the option is to punish them by removing them from the only community they know and cast them out to a foreign country which they do not know or give them legal status and allow them to come out of the shadows so they can live a normal life and contribute to America. To me they are closer to a refugee (somebody brought here to escape hardships and oppression) than lawbreakers. get it?

 

[jc456]

If I took my child to a Holiday Inn and that child broke the TV in the room, the Holiday Inn would have every right to KICK BOTH THE CHILD AND ME OUT OF THE HOTEL.

Wow, what a great analogy, did you think of that all by yourself?

So to bring it back to reality... what TV did the dreamer children break?

We already know your a heartless bastard.

Does the Inn owner have that right or not. Is that punishing the child.

Just like when I asked you if you would be a heartless bastard by expelling a squatters child from your home.

You like flipping the problemon the American people instead of on the people who caused the problem.

The heartless bastard is the parent. Not us.

You love using examples that are completely different from the actual situation. Coming to a country to try and work, survive, contribute and achieve a successful life and not the same as squatting in somebodies private residence or breaking a hotel TV. Its an absurd comparison. Plus you never answered my question... What "TV" did the dreamers break?

Any more absurd then you thinking of them as refugees? Refugees are sent back home when their status is no longer needed. So in essence you are agreeing DACA people should be sent back. LOL

Sounds like you're not understanding me. DACA kids did not break the law, they were brought here, the option is to punish them by removing them from the only community they know and cast them out to a foreign country which they do not know or give them legal status and allow them to come out of the shadows so they can live a normal life and contribute to America. To me they are closer to a refugee (somebody brought here to escape hardships and oppression) than lawbreakers. get it?

are they old enough to know today? if so they are breaking the law today.

got no link eh? figures.

 

[Slade3200]

Well, you certainly don't send the wrong message
and you certainly don't allow illegal immigrants
to dictate their own immigration policies and laws!

Look, DACA is a pay to stay program
It's wrong to pick and choose who will be deported
Its not fair for one kid to stay and another to have to leave
Its not fair for a mother to stay but a childless woman to leave
Its not fair for one family unit to stay but another family unit can't

Life is not fair and there will always be
innocent casualties because of someone else's choices

Sparing consequences doesn't help people to grow
allowing them does, no matter how unfair it seems

They adjusted when they came to America,
they'll adjust when they're back in Mexico

Innocence or not, this country has immigration laws...
breaking these laws has consequences
we are responsible for enforcing our laws
not for the fallout and casualties of their consequences

If I took my child to a Holiday Inn and that child broke the TV in the room, the Holiday Inn would have every right to KICK BOTH THE CHILD AND ME OUT OF THE HOTEL.

Wow, what a great analogy, did you think of that all by yourself?

So to bring it back to reality... what TV did the dreamer children break?

We already know your a heartless bastard.

Does the Inn owner have that right or not. Is that punishing the child.

Just like when I asked you if you would be a heartless bastard by expelling a squatters child from your home.

You like flipping the problemon the American people instead of on the people who caused the problem.

The heartless bastard is the parent. Not us.

You love using examples that are completely different from the actual situation. Coming to a country to try and work, survive, contribute and achieve a successful life and not the same as squatting in somebodies private residence or breaking a hotel TV. Its an absurd comparison. Plus you never answered my question... What "TV" did the dreamers break?

You are making absurd assumptions. How the hell do you know the squatters aren't looking to make a better life. They only want to live in your home so they can work in a better job and give their kids a better education.

Jebus youre a heartless bastard.

I'm about done arguing with you about this. Its like arguing with a grade schooler who wants to be the only one allowed to swim in the community pool because he is allowed to take a bath by himself at home. You're arguments don't make sense and you are wasting my time. You obviously don't get it and are doing a piss poor job trying to make your points, so how about you find some other dupe to try and harass.

 

[jc456]

If I took my child to a Holiday Inn and that child broke the TV in the room, the Holiday Inn would have every right to KICK BOTH THE CHILD AND ME OUT OF THE HOTEL.

Wow, what a great analogy, did you think of that all by yourself?

So to bring it back to reality... what TV did the dreamer children break?

We already know your a heartless bastard.

Does the Inn owner have that right or not. Is that punishing the child.

Just like when I asked you if you would be a heartless bastard by expelling a squatters child from your home.

You like flipping the problemon the American people instead of on the people who caused the problem.

The heartless bastard is the parent. Not us.

You love using examples that are completely different from the actual situation. Coming to a country to try and work, survive, contribute and achieve a successful life and not the same as squatting in somebodies private residence or breaking a hotel TV. Its an absurd comparison. Plus you never answered my question... What "TV" did the dreamers break?

You are making absurd assumptions. How the hell do you know the squatters aren't looking to make a better life. They only want to live in your home so they can work in a better job and give their kids a better education.

Jebus youre a heartless bastard.

I'm about done arguing with you about this. Its like arguing with a grade schooler who wants to be the only one allowed to swim in the community pool because he is allowed to take a bath by himself at home. You're arguments don't make sense and you are wasting my time. You obviously don't get it and are doing a piss poor job trying to make your arguments, so how about you find some other dupe to try and harass.

you're always done when you get beaten down like the sad libturd you are. wow. now, do you have a link or not that proves your point?

 

[Pop23]

If I took my child to a Holiday Inn and that child broke the TV in the room, the Holiday Inn would have every right to KICK BOTH THE CHILD AND ME OUT OF THE HOTEL.

Wow, what a great analogy, did you think of that all by yourself?

So to bring it back to reality... what TV did the dreamer children break?

We already know your a heartless bastard.

Does the Inn owner have that right or not. Is that punishing the child.

Just like when I asked you if you would be a heartless bastard by expelling a squatters child from your home.

You like flipping the problemon the American people instead of on the people who caused the problem.

The heartless bastard is the parent. Not us.

You love using examples that are completely different from the actual situation. Coming to a country to try and work, survive, contribute and achieve a successful life and not the same as squatting in somebodies private residence or breaking a hotel TV. Its an absurd comparison. Plus you never answered my question... What "TV" did the dreamers break?

Any more absurd then you thinking of them as refugees? Refugees are sent back home when their status is no longer needed. So in essence you are agreeing DACA people should be sent back. LOL

Sounds like you're not understanding me. DACA kids did not break the law, they were brought here, the option is to punish them by removing them from the only community they know and cast them out to a foreign country which they do not know or give them legal status and allow them to come out of the shadows so they can live a normal life and contribute to America. To me they are closer to a refugee (somebody brought here to escape hardships and oppression) than lawbreakers. get it?

The principle of home sovereignty and nation sovereignty are EXACTLY the same. It is the owner who sets residency rules, NOT THE ONE THAT ENTERED ILLEGALLY.

Whether the breakin involved children or not is a moot point. Enter illegally, leave when instructed to go.

PERIOD

 

[Pop23]

If I took my child to a Holiday Inn and that child broke the TV in the room, the Holiday Inn would have every right to KICK BOTH THE CHILD AND ME OUT OF THE HOTEL.

Wow, what a great analogy, did you think of that all by yourself?

So to bring it back to reality... what TV did the dreamer children break?

We already know your a heartless bastard.

Does the Inn owner have that right or not. Is that punishing the child.

Just like when I asked you if you would be a heartless bastard by expelling a squatters child from your home.

You like flipping the problemon the American people instead of on the people who caused the problem.

The heartless bastard is the parent. Not us.

You love using examples that are completely different from the actual situation. Coming to a country to try and work, survive, contribute and achieve a successful life and not the same as squatting in somebodies private residence or breaking a hotel TV. Its an absurd comparison. Plus you never answered my question... What "TV" did the dreamers break?

You are making absurd assumptions. How the hell do you know the squatters aren't looking to make a better life. They only want to live in your home so they can work in a better job and give their kids a better education.

Jebus youre a heartless bastard.

I'm about done arguing with you about this. Its like arguing with a grade schooler who wants to be the only one allowed to swim in the community pool because he is allowed to take a bath by himself at home. You're arguments don't make sense and you are wasting my time. You obviously don't get it and are doing a piss poor job trying to make your points, so how about you find some other dupe to try and harass.

My argument make absolute sense to those with any sanity.

You are simply pissed off that I demonstrated that you are a heartless bastard using the EXACT SAME ARGUMENT THE OP USED TO CLAIM I WAS ONE.

And it's been delicious fun'

 

[Slade3200]

Wow, what a great analogy, did you think of that all by yourself?

So to bring it back to reality... what TV did the dreamer children break?

We already know your a heartless bastard.

Does the Inn owner have that right or not. Is that punishing the child.

Just like when I asked you if you would be a heartless bastard by expelling a squatters child from your home.

You like flipping the problemon the American people instead of on the people who caused the problem.

The heartless bastard is the parent. Not us.

You love using examples that are completely different from the actual situation. Coming to a country to try and work, survive, contribute and achieve a successful life and not the same as squatting in somebodies private residence or breaking a hotel TV. Its an absurd comparison. Plus you never answered my question... What "TV" did the dreamers break?

Any more absurd then you thinking of them as refugees? Refugees are sent back home when their status is no longer needed. So in essence you are agreeing DACA people should be sent back. LOL

Sounds like you're not understanding me. DACA kids did not break the law, they were brought here, the option is to punish them by removing them from the only community they know and cast them out to a foreign country which they do not know or give them legal status and allow them to come out of the shadows so they can live a normal life and contribute to America. To me they are closer to a refugee (somebody brought here to escape hardships and oppression) than lawbreakers. get it?

The principle of home sovereignty and nation sovereignty are EXACTLY the same. It is the owner who sets residency rules, NOT THE ONE THAT ENTERED ILLEGALLY.

Whether the breakin involved children or not is a moot point. Enter illegally, leave when instructed to go.

PERIOD

If thats the relation you need to use to comprehend the situation then you go right ahead. The REAL situation is very different than that and I prefer to analyze the actual complexities of the actual situation rather than playing games with a dumbed down analogy

 

[Slade3200]

Wow, what a great analogy, did you think of that all by yourself?

So to bring it back to reality... what TV did the dreamer children break?

We already know your a heartless bastard.

Does the Inn owner have that right or not. Is that punishing the child.

Just like when I asked you if you would be a heartless bastard by expelling a squatters child from your home.

You like flipping the problemon the American people instead of on the people who caused the problem.

The heartless bastard is the parent. Not us.

You love using examples that are completely different from the actual situation. Coming to a country to try and work, survive, contribute and achieve a successful life and not the same as squatting in somebodies private residence or breaking a hotel TV. Its an absurd comparison. Plus you never answered my question... What "TV" did the dreamers break?

You are making absurd assumptions. How the hell do you know the squatters aren't looking to make a better life. They only want to live in your home so they can work in a better job and give their kids a better education.

Jebus youre a heartless bastard.

I'm about done arguing with you about this. Its like arguing with a grade schooler who wants to be the only one allowed to swim in the community pool because he is allowed to take a bath by himself at home. You're arguments don't make sense and you are wasting my time. You obviously don't get it and are doing a piss poor job trying to make your points, so how about you find some other dupe to try and harass.

My argument make absolute sense to those with any sanity.

You are simply pissed off that I demonstrated that you are a heartless bastard using the EXACT SAME ARGUMENT THE OP USED TO CLAIM I WAS ONE.

And it's been delicious fun'

Well congrats then. You proved to yourself whatever it is you think you proved to feel victorious. Reality is quite different though, but your the one living in your own reality so in that small bubble you can dance around victoriously. From my side your arguments have been hateful, petty, and with laughable logic

 

[Pop23]

We already know your a heartless bastard.

Does the Inn owner have that right or not. Is that punishing the child.

Just like when I asked you if you would be a heartless bastard by expelling a squatters child from your home.

You like flipping the problemon the American people instead of on the people who caused the problem.

The heartless bastard is the parent. Not us.

You love using examples that are completely different from the actual situation. Coming to a country to try and work, survive, contribute and achieve a successful life and not the same as squatting in somebodies private residence or breaking a hotel TV. Its an absurd comparison. Plus you never answered my question... What "TV" did the dreamers break?

Any more absurd then you thinking of them as refugees? Refugees are sent back home when their status is no longer needed. So in essence you are agreeing DACA people should be sent back. LOL

Sounds like you're not understanding me. DACA kids did not break the law, they were brought here, the option is to punish them by removing them from the only community they know and cast them out to a foreign country which they do not know or give them legal status and allow them to come out of the shadows so they can live a normal life and contribute to America. To me they are closer to a refugee (somebody brought here to escape hardships and oppression) than lawbreakers. get it?

The principle of home sovereignty and nation sovereignty are EXACTLY the same. It is the owner who sets residency rules, NOT THE ONE THAT ENTERED ILLEGALLY.

Whether the breakin involved children or not is a moot point. Enter illegally, leave when instructed to go.

PERIOD

If thats the relation you need to use to comprehend the situation then you go right ahead. The REAL situation is very different than that and I prefer to analyze the actual complexities of the actual situation rather than playing games with a dumbed down analogy

It would have taken fewer key stokes to admit you got ass kicked.

 

[EverCurious]

Based off President Trumps previous statements (prior to running for president) if Congress doesn't do anything (which I feel they will not be able to) I suspect President Trump will pardon them and confer citizenship like Regan did. I personally disagree with that idea, but I do think that's what he'll do. I believe it'd be much better for Congress' reputation if they put down a tenable method for Dreamers to become legal citizens but they're too busy playing partisan games for campaign funding to care what all the centers and independents think of them.

 

[Pop23]

We already know your a heartless bastard.

Does the Inn owner have that right or not. Is that punishing the child.

Just like when I asked you if you would be a heartless bastard by expelling a squatters child from your home.

You like flipping the problemon the American people instead of on the people who caused the problem.

The heartless bastard is the parent. Not us.

You love using examples that are completely different from the actual situation. Coming to a country to try and work, survive, contribute and achieve a successful life and not the same as squatting in somebodies private residence or breaking a hotel TV. Its an absurd comparison. Plus you never answered my question... What "TV" did the dreamers break?

You are making absurd assumptions. How the hell do you know the squatters aren't looking to make a better life. They only want to live in your home so they can work in a better job and give their kids a better education.

Jebus youre a heartless bastard.

I'm about done arguing with you about this. Its like arguing with a grade schooler who wants to be the only one allowed to swim in the community pool because he is allowed to take a bath by himself at home. You're arguments don't make sense and you are wasting my time. You obviously don't get it and are doing a piss poor job trying to make your points, so how about you find some other dupe to try and harass.

My argument make absolute sense to those with any sanity.

You are simply pissed off that I demonstrated that you are a heartless bastard using the EXACT SAME ARGUMENT THE OP USED TO CLAIM I WAS ONE.

And it's been delicious fun'

Well congrats then. You proved to yourself whatever it is you think you proved to feel victorious. Reality is quite different though, but your the one living in your own reality so in that small bubble you can dance around victoriously. From my side your arguments have been hateful, petty, and with laughable logic

AND CONSTITUTIONALLY VALID.

there, I finished it for ya

 

[jamesduncan]

Trump needs to visit the Statue of Liberty

STATUE OF LIBERTY

“Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free/The wretched refuse of your teeming shore/Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me/I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

"The Statue of Liberty Enlightening the World" was a gift of friendship from the people of France to the United States and is recognized as a universal symbol of freedom and democracy. The Statue of Liberty was dedicated on October 28, 1886. It was designated as a National Monument in 1924. Employees of the National Park Service have been caring for the colossal copper statue since 1933.

In 1892, the U.S. government opened a federal immigration station on Ellis Island, located near Bedloe’s Island in Upper New York Bay. Between 1892 and 1954, some 12 million immigrants were processed on Ellis Island before receiving permission to enter the United States. From 1900-14, during the peak years of its operation, some 5,000 to 10,000 people passed through every day.

 

[Pop23]

Trump needs to visit the Statue of Liberty

STATUE OF LIBERTY

“Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free/The wretched refuse of your teeming shore/Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me/I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

"The Statue of Liberty Enlightening the World" was a gift of friendship from the people of France to the United States and is recognized as a universal symbol of freedom and democracy. The Statue of Liberty was dedicated on October 28, 1886. It was designated as a National Monument in 1924. Employees of the National Park Service have been caring for the colossal copper statue since 1933.

In 1892, the U.S. government opened a federal immigration station on Ellis Island, located near Bedloe’s Island in Upper New York Bay. Between 1892 and 1954, some 12 million immigrants were processed on Ellis Island before receiving permission to enter the United States. From 1900-14, during the peak years of its operation, some 5,000 to 10,000 people passed through every day.

And the rules for LEGAL IMMIGRATION have since changed.

We are not discussing LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. They are not the problem. ILLEGAL SQUATTERS are.