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If the other person is unwilling, though, it makes it difficult. I think in that case, you either need to accept it or leave.gop_jeff said:Outside help, professional type.
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If the other person is unwilling, though, it makes it difficult. I think in that case, you either need to accept it or leave.gop_jeff said:Outside help, professional type.
GotZoom said:I will revert to a previous post I made.
Both people should want what is best for the other person. Therefore, if one person "stops loving," then my theory has broken down.
How can you have a relationship of either one of the people have "stopped loving?"
Marriage is a two person thing - both people "in love" and "loving." If one person stops..and the other person has done everything in their power to fix it but still can't, there isn't much hope for them.
mom4 said:But what does that mean... not much hope? Conservatives are generally for restrictions on divorce, especially Christians. But it still seems like there is the attitude out there "If you aren't happy, just leave." Is that what is meant by "not much hope"? That they should just leave?
Bonnie said:That's assuming one person has no culpability and the other is completely at fault. People can fall out of love if there is anger or resentment that builds up and is never addressed. But I think your right that if it comes to a point that everything possible has been done to save the marriage and one person is not in it 100% there doesn't seem to be much hope.
GotZoom said:I absolutely agree that if there is anger or resentment, it is easy to let that get in the way of love. Again, Communication 101. If one of the two doesn't want to talk about their feelings, or deflects the conversation and/or blame, then there may not be much hope. No desire to communicate and one of the basic foundations is ruined.
People who want it to work will do anything and everything to make it work. Professional help, communication, etc.
But if one of the two doesn't.......the other one is just spinning his/her wheels - and the marriage will go no where.
Bonnie said:Wow you nailed here Don. Too bad your taken I think you
and Darin would be great together... j/K
shepherdboy said:Marriage the ultimate sacrifice of one's freedom? I know when I married my wife, its was a marriage with Christ at the center of focus. I learned to set aside my needs for hers. She tends to do the same and we have total unity with each other. This is so hard to explain in words and I am a lousy writer.
Its like our walk with Christ. We surrendered our lives to Him. We live to serve Him and not our selfish needs. I am not saying we can't have any pleasure in our lives. I am just saying if we put Christ first above all things, all those other needs and wants according to His desire will be blessed upon us.(Matthew 6:33) I hope I am making some sense here, because I have been there and dealt with some of those issues. I guess what I am saying in a nut shell is really understand yourself and who you really are. Cast aside all selfishness and serve your wife with unconditional love. To really grasp this, is to really understand your relationship with Christ Jesus. (Matthew 6:21) "For where your treasure is, there your hearts will be also."
shepherdboy said:Marriage the ultimate sacrifice of one's freedom? I know when I married my wife, its was a marriage with Christ at the center of focus. I learned to set aside my needs for hers. She tends to do the same and we have total unity with each other. This is so hard to explain in words and I am a lousy writer.
Its like our walk with Christ. We surrendered our lives to Him. We live to serve Him and not our selfish needs. I am not saying we can't have any pleasure in our lives. I am just saying if we put Christ first above all things, all those other needs and wants according to His desire will be blessed upon us.(Matthew 6:33) I hope I am making some sense here, because I have been there and dealt with some of those issues. I guess what I am saying in a nut shell is really understand yourself and who you really are. Cast aside all selfishness and serve your wife with unconditional love. To really grasp this, is to really understand your relationship with Christ Jesus. (Matthew 6:21) "For where your treasure is, there your hearts will be also."
shepherdboy said:Marriage the ultimate sacrifice of one's freedom? I know when I married my wife, its was a marriage with Christ at the center of focus. I learned to set aside my needs for hers. She tends to do the same and we have total unity with each other. This is so hard to explain in words and I am a lousy writer.
Its like our walk with Christ. We surrendered our lives to Him. We live to serve Him and not our selfish needs. I am not saying we can't have any pleasure in our lives. I am just saying if we put Christ first above all things, all those other needs and wants according to His desire will be blessed upon us.(Matthew 6:33) I hope I am making some sense here, because I have been there and dealt with some of those issues. I guess what I am saying in a nut shell is really understand yourself and who you really are. Cast aside all selfishness and serve your wife with unconditional love. To really grasp this, is to really understand your relationship with Christ Jesus. (Matthew 6:21) "For where your treasure is, there your hearts will be also."
GotZoom said:Must....spread......rep....
Too funny.
(Shhh..don't tell Darin but I think he is just infatuated with me...or the idea of me...)
dmp said:Now...if Don were only a hot chick...(sigh). Maybe I should just love him 'as-is' right??
dmp said:...but aren't you single???
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