CAUGHT ON TAPE: Dem Operative Stuffs Ballot Box in Arizona (Video)

[billyerock1991]

SCOTUS
Supreme Court Rejects Challenge To Indiana Voter ID Law Redstate

Justice Stevens, joined by Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Kennedy, found no showing of an undue burden on various voters who challenged the voter ID law on its face. Justices Scalia, Thomas and Alito would have upheld the law on the broader ground that it imposed the same requirements equally on all voters. Both opinions give great weight to the state interest in ensuring that only eligible voters cast ballots. Justice Souter, joined by Justices Breyer and Ginsburg, dissented.

This is a major defeat for the Democrats' efforts to prevent states from requiring valid identification to vote. The lawsuit was brought by the Indiana Democratic Party.

when are you going to do some real research instead of these right wing nut job sites ... nobody can take you serious

 

[billyerock1991]

We have PROOF and know THEY ARE LIARS:

why do you uses the right wing made up movies ... nothing in this movie is true ... why do you have to lie so much to justify your means ??? I live in denver ... there hasn't been any such thing happening here ....I donate my time to the Mark Udall campaign calling on the phone to make sure the people get out and vote ... if this was true it would be all over denver news especially by Cory gardener ... stop your lying

 

[billyerock1991]

More LEFTIST VOTER FRAUD:

18 Former ACORN Workers Have Been Convicted or Admitted Guilt in Election Fraud Fox News


ACORN

So you conflate ELECTION REGISTRATION fraud with actual election fraud? lol

Fraudulent registration is election fraud.

Oh aren't you the rocket scientist ... repub-lie-can push this kind of stupidity to justify their rants ... so how many did those Fraudulent registration cast a vote Mudpacker???? that would be a big fat goose egg

 

[bravoactual]

Nope, no voter fraud for Democrats!

The Gateway Pundit ^

They don’t even try to hid their lawlessness anymore. A vulgar, violent Democratic operative was caught on tape stuffing a ballot box. The man dropped a large box of hundreds of early ballots on the table and started stuffing the ballot box....

Now, settle down and think.

First, The video in question is TWO (02) Months Old, taken in August during the Arizona Primary.

Second, at no time does the man in the video violate Arizona State Law.

It is legal under Arizona State Law to drop off Vote By Mail (V.B.M.....i.e. Absentee Ballots) at the Voting Station

Third, at no time since the Arizona State Primary (when the video was shot) has the Arizona State Secretary of State accused this man or his organization of "Stuffing The Ballot Box".

Election scandal Ballot harvesters caught on video

The O.P. is simply using RW Hysteria to gin a story that the State of Arizona has since proven to BE AN OUT RIGHT, DOWN RIGHT LIE.!!!!!!

OMMFG....Real, Actual, Honest, People ARE VOTING.

RUN HENNY PENNY....RUN...THE PEOPLE ARE VOTING...THE PEOPLE AR VOTING.

 

[billyerock1991]

Nope, no voter fraud for Democrats!

The Gateway Pundit ^

They don’t even try to hid their lawlessness anymore. A vulgar, violent Democratic operative was caught on tape stuffing a ballot box. The man dropped a large box of hundreds of early ballots on the table and started stuffing the ballot box....

Now, settle down and think.

First, The video in question is TWO (02) Months Old, taken in August during the Arizona Primary.

Second, at no time does the man in the video violate Arizona State Law.

It is legal under Arizona State Law to drop off Vote By Mail (V.B.M.....i.e. Absentee Ballots) at the Voting Station

Third, at no time since the Arizona State Primary (when the video was shot) has the Arizona State Secretary of State accused this man or his organization of "Stuffing The Ballot Box".

Election scandal Ballot harvesters caught on video

The O.P. is simply using RW Hysteria to gin a story that the State of Arizona has since proven to BE AN OUT RIGHT, DOWN RIGHT LIE.!!!!!!

OMMFG....Real, Actual, Honest, People ARE VOTING.

RUN HENNY PENNY....RUN...THE PEOPLE ARE VOTING...THE PEOPLE AR VOTING.

ladygunslinger gets her stuff from right wing sites designed to create fear ... she does this all the time ... each and everyone of her post have been proven to be out right lies... ladygunslinger knows this ... yet she keeps posting these distortions.. it really shows us how immoral republicans are

 

[billyerock1991]

Just as you are doing by saying "there is no quest for truth going on." Your statement is that no one cares not for truth. Yet, here I am. Admitting my initial view of the video was wrong, and my seeking truth resulted in admission that my initial view biased by the report, was wrong. IOW you're also suffering from bias in your apparent generalized view of everyone that disagrees with you. Maybe the truth is more that some people are sometimes temporarily blinded by their biases. This likely due to rage or some attempt to circle the wagons around their particular groups that are under attack by the enemy.

We NEVER agree, and I give you MUCH credit for admitting you made a mistake. Good job


But if you'll note, no amount of logic or reason get through to those who REFUSE to open their minds and use the little brains they have left.

Examples are, Obama flooded the US with illegals to win the votes? And Dems stuffing ballots? lol Neither of course will or can be substantiated with ANYTHING other than 'feelings'

Statistics and actions substantiate many/most of the accusations levied against this administration's immigration policies. Saying there's no evidence the democrats are flooding the US with illegals is equivalent to saying there's no evidence democrats are socialist. A population of upper middle class voters benefits the republicans... a population of poverty stricken voters benefits the democrats... these are easy to prove statistical facts that tie directly to policies and platforms of the two parties.

Explain why 90%+ of scientists self ID as Dems/Libs?


Explain hoe red states are so poor, and blue states pay the freight?

Yes, the platform of the GOP is gut taxes for the rich, note how the ONLY tax increase they didn't fight to keep, was Obama's temp 2% reduction on SS?


Explain why GOP Guv in Wisconsin's 'conservative test' is failing?



Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala A theory of a divided nation

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.


Blue States are from Scandinavia Red States are from Guatemala New Republic

Ok... this once I'll answer your questions:

You asked: Explain why 90%+ of scientists self ID as Dems/Libs?

Easy, that is just not true. Show me where 90% of scientists self identify as democrat. Are you talking about high school teachers? Engineers? Define scientist and tell me who you are polling.

You asked: Explain hoe red states are so poor, and blue states pay the freight?

Easy, that is just not true. Republican states are less expensive to live in, one result of being less expensive is the average rate of pay can also be lower due to the cost of living being lower. Additionally, many retired folks live in republican states. Most bullshit reports about red states sucking down welfare are counting SS as welfare, which is a lie. Further, many of the republican states are in proximity to where the immigration, legal and illegal, is occurring. Still further, many pf the republican states are rural states with lots of farms and such, where incomes are generally lower. You can't compare a job picking strawberries, with a job trading stocks on the NY stock exchange. Even further, just because a state is republican, does not mean everyone in the state is republican. Shockingly there are many millions of democrats in republican states. Even more shockingly, there are many millions of republicans in democrat states. You assume, incorrectly that the republicans in democrat states are donating their incomes as "democrats" and you also assume, incorrectly that democrats receiving welfare in republican states are doing so as republicans. IOW you're a fool for believing said lies.

You said: Yes, the platform of the GOP is gut taxes for the rich, note how the ONLY tax increase they didn't fight to keep, was Obama's temp 2% reduction on SS?

Nonsense! Bush's tax breaks reduced taxes for the middle class and poor SIGNIFICANTLY MORE by percentage of income than it did for the upper income classes. SIGNIFICANTLY BIGGER CUTS WENT TO THE POOR However, the democrats are apparently math challenged and don't understand that going from 8% taxes to zero percent taxes is a significantly bigger tax cut than going from 35% to 28% or from 28% to 23%. Or the democrats start lying about capital gains taxes being the same thing as personal income taxes. IOW the democrats for the most part are silent to the truth, mentally handicapped, or liars... you pick. As for the 2% reduction on SS.. OMFG SS payments are to fund SS. Are you democrats actually arguing to DEFUND SOCIAL SECURITY? WTF?

Got it, you have all the right wing memes (LIES) down


Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans: Pew Poll

The ideological discrepancies were similar. Nine percent of scientists said they were "conservative" while 52 percent described themselves as "liberal," and 14 percent "very liberal."

Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans Pew Poll



Weird, immigration is happening in the poorest red states like Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee, West Virginia, Louisiana, Montana, South Carolina, Kentucky, Alabama, and North Carolina? lol


Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala A theory of a divided nation

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.



Blue States are from Scandinavia Red States are from Guatemala New Republic

Can Scott Walker make the case for conservatism?

Economy Killer Scott Walker Takes Wisconsin to 49th in the Country

But Walker has developed a consistent record for failure. Republicans try to blame the economy, but these measurements put his state at the bottom with a projected decrease in growth, compared to others that indicate growth.
And then there’s the other data. In March of this year, Wisconsin plunged to 44th in private sector job growth. Also, Wisconsin came in as the fifth worst in terms of the erosion in private-sector wages.

Forbes named Wisconsin one of the “worst states” for business in December of 2012. Wisconsin is 44th for overall economic performance and 39th for business climate.

In May of 2013, the Chamber of Commerce rewarded 2016 hopeful Scott Walker for making Wisconsin last in job growth, noting that he made Wisconsin an “enterprising state”. FYI, an enterprising state is one that embracing right wing ideology, based on the premise that tax cuts will lead to growth, jobs, and general greatness.

However, the Chamber’s own study placed Wisconsin dead last for short term job growth from September 2010 and November 2012.

“Wisconsin clearly is not leading the recovery,” William Delwiche, an economist in Milwaukee at Robert W. Baird & Co, told the Journal Online. That’s an understatement if ever there were one.

Economy Killer Scott Walker Takes Wisconsin to 49th in the Country



Scott Walker has failed Wisconsin and Minnesota is the proof

Scott Walker has failed Wisconsin and Minnesota is the proof - JSOnline

Yes, the GOP fought for Dubyas's tax cuts, the ones where the richest saved over $1,000,000 per family in 9 years from it!


Bush Tax Cuts Have Provided Extremely Large Benefits to Wealthiest Americans Over Last Nine Years

• The average tax cut that people making over $1 million received exceeded $110,000 in each of the last nine years — for a total of more than $1 million over this period.
• The tax cuts made the tax system less progressive.
• 
  
  Bush Tax Cuts Have Provided Extremely Large Benefits to Wealthiest Americans Over Last Nine Years mdash Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
  
  
  
  
  Fueled income inequality: This chart from the Congressional Research Service suggests that the Bush tax cuts, which significantly reduce top marginal tax rates and capital gains rates, helped widen income inequality in the 2000s. As the report says, “as the top tax rates are reduced, the share of income accruing to the top of the income distribution increases — that is, income disparities increase.” This chart shows how the percentage of income flowing to the top 0.1 percent of earners increases as top tax rates decrease.
  
  
  
  
  Benefited the wealthy: By any measure, the Bush tax cuts have benefited the wealthy more than the middle class. Here’s a chart, based on data from the Tax Policy Center, showing the distributional breakdown of the Bush tax cuts before they were amended on Tuesday. Going forward, the top 1 percent of earners will benefit much less -- though still quite a bit.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  The legacy of the Bush tax cuts in four charts - The Washington Post
  
  
  
  
  

nailed it big time ... great response

 

[Lakhota]

Nope, no voter fraud for Democrats!

The Gateway Pundit ^

They don’t even try to hid their lawlessness anymore. A vulgar, violent Democratic operative was caught on tape stuffing a ballot box. The man dropped a large box of hundreds of early ballots on the table and started stuffing the ballot box....

Rachel Maddow just debunked the shit out of this lie. You NaziCons are so fucking gullible. First of all, this took place in August. Secondly, what the Hispanic-looking guy was doing is perfectly legal in Arizona. This thread is a lie. We look forward to your apology.

Contact Ken Bennett, Arizona Secretary of State, and ask him.

Arizona Secretary of State Home Page

Contact the Arizona Secretary of State​

Still waiting for an apology from Vaginalante.

 

[Lakhota]

When will Vaginalante and right-wing media issue an apology and correction to the OP lies?

An obvious fake - Cannonfire

VIDEO: Rachel Maddow debunks right wing hysteria over video of a man dropping off absentee ballots in Arizona

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LadyGunSlinger

 

[Dad2three]

When will Vaginalante and right-wing media issue an apology and correction to the OP lies?

An obvious fake - Cannonfire

VIDEO: Rachel Maddow debunks right wing hysteria over video of a man dropping off absentee ballots in Arizona

tinydancer
AvgGuyIA
Iceweasel
shart_attack
CrusaderFrank
Uncensored2008
skye
LadyGunSlinger

When Saint Ronnie rises again?

 

[Lakhota]

When will NaziCons apologize for these lies?

 

[Lakhota]

Why are NaziCons avoiding this thread that they were drooling over for FIVE fucking days? Why?

 

[American Horse]

A lot of Republicans complain about voter fraud. Indiana Secretary of State Charlie White actually committed it

So long as you’re a Republican, you won’t spend any time in jail for voter fraud. And, if you’re Charlie White, Indiana’s lucky, now-former Republican secretary of state who received just one year of home detention for all of those crimes, you’ll likely be “elated,” just as White was after his sentencing hearing last week.

Voter fraud retires shameless GOP official - Salon.com



December 07, 2011

Conviction in GOP voter-suppression scheme

Paul E. Schurick, the 2010 campaign manager for former Maryland governor Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., was convicted Tuesday by a Baltimore jury of four counts stemming from a robocall that prosecutors said was intended to suppress the black vote.


Fortunately, other members of the former Republican governor’s team will also stand trial for their role.

Conviction in GOP voter-suppression scheme Political Animal The Washington Monthly


The irony is, the fraud Republicans are worried about is imaginary, while the real-world fraud is coming from their side of the political divide.


A major probe by the Justice Department between 2002 and 2007 failed to prosecute a single person for going to the polls and impersonating an eligible voter, which the anti-fraud laws are supposedly designed to stop.

Out of the 300 million votes cast in that period, federal prosecutors convicted only 86 people for voter fraud – and many of the cases involved immigrants and former felons who were simply unaware of their ineligibility.

A much-hyped investigation in Wisconsin, meanwhile, led to the prosecution of only .0007 percent of the local electorate for alleged voter fraud.

"Our democracy is under siege from an enemy so small it could be hiding anywhere," joked Stephen Colbert.

It's true, some idiot republicans commit retail voter fraud; but then again the Dems are deeply into wholesale voter fraud, and those can change the outcome of elections, particularly primary elections.

Retail fraud can have very small effect beyond damaging the reputation of the party whose candidates or voters who commit it.

 

[Vigilante]

Why are NaziCons avoiding this thread that they were drooling over for FIVE fucking days? Why?

To piss you off in your OCD! Your OTHER THREAD about the same subject you fucking moron is now getting the play!

 

[Political Junky]

The whole thing has been debunked. The Right spent a lot of time trying to make something stick, but failed.

 

[RKMBrown]

So basically you are a retarded POS MARXIST.

Glad you agree, you lost the actual debate

^dumb ass thinks cutting an pasting is debating.

Got it, you don't like credible sources to back up MY posit!

what a fucking dumb ass you are... you actually believe me paying 1million in taxes and "saving" 100k in taxes is a bigger tax break than someone else paying ZERO IN TAXES AND SAVING 5K. You're an idiot.

Talk about an idiot, you think someone went from a $5,000 income tax bill to zero? lol

Yes. Many did, ya dumb ass. The rates on lower income were cut the most, esp. when factoring in the doubling of exemptions.

 

[RKMBrown]

We NEVER agree, and I give you MUCH credit for admitting you made a mistake. Good job


But if you'll note, no amount of logic or reason get through to those who REFUSE to open their minds and use the little brains they have left.

Examples are, Obama flooded the US with illegals to win the votes? And Dems stuffing ballots? lol Neither of course will or can be substantiated with ANYTHING other than 'feelings'

Statistics and actions substantiate many/most of the accusations levied against this administration's immigration policies. Saying there's no evidence the democrats are flooding the US with illegals is equivalent to saying there's no evidence democrats are socialist. A population of upper middle class voters benefits the republicans... a population of poverty stricken voters benefits the democrats... these are easy to prove statistical facts that tie directly to policies and platforms of the two parties.

Explain why 90%+ of scientists self ID as Dems/Libs?


Explain hoe red states are so poor, and blue states pay the freight?

Yes, the platform of the GOP is gut taxes for the rich, note how the ONLY tax increase they didn't fight to keep, was Obama's temp 2% reduction on SS?


Explain why GOP Guv in Wisconsin's 'conservative test' is failing?



Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala A theory of a divided nation

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.


Blue States are from Scandinavia Red States are from Guatemala New Republic

Ok... this once I'll answer your questions:

You asked: Explain why 90%+ of scientists self ID as Dems/Libs?

Easy, that is just not true. Show me where 90% of scientists self identify as democrat. Are you talking about high school teachers? Engineers? Define scientist and tell me who you are polling.

You asked: Explain hoe red states are so poor, and blue states pay the freight?

Easy, that is just not true. Republican states are less expensive to live in, one result of being less expensive is the average rate of pay can also be lower due to the cost of living being lower. Additionally, many retired folks live in republican states. Most bullshit reports about red states sucking down welfare are counting SS as welfare, which is a lie. Further, many of the republican states are in proximity to where the immigration, legal and illegal, is occurring. Still further, many pf the republican states are rural states with lots of farms and such, where incomes are generally lower. You can't compare a job picking strawberries, with a job trading stocks on the NY stock exchange. Even further, just because a state is republican, does not mean everyone in the state is republican. Shockingly there are many millions of democrats in republican states. Even more shockingly, there are many millions of republicans in democrat states. You assume, incorrectly that the republicans in democrat states are donating their incomes as "democrats" and you also assume, incorrectly that democrats receiving welfare in republican states are doing so as republicans. IOW you're a fool for believing said lies.

You said: Yes, the platform of the GOP is gut taxes for the rich, note how the ONLY tax increase they didn't fight to keep, was Obama's temp 2% reduction on SS?

Nonsense! Bush's tax breaks reduced taxes for the middle class and poor SIGNIFICANTLY MORE by percentage of income than it did for the upper income classes. SIGNIFICANTLY BIGGER CUTS WENT TO THE POOR However, the democrats are apparently math challenged and don't understand that going from 8% taxes to zero percent taxes is a significantly bigger tax cut than going from 35% to 28% or from 28% to 23%. Or the democrats start lying about capital gains taxes being the same thing as personal income taxes. IOW the democrats for the most part are silent to the truth, mentally handicapped, or liars... you pick. As for the 2% reduction on SS.. OMFG SS payments are to fund SS. Are you democrats actually arguing to DEFUND SOCIAL SECURITY? WTF?

Got it, you have all the right wing memes (LIES) down


Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans: Pew Poll

The ideological discrepancies were similar. Nine percent of scientists said they were "conservative" while 52 percent described themselves as "liberal," and 14 percent "very liberal."

Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans Pew Poll



Weird, immigration is happening in the poorest red states like Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee, West Virginia, Louisiana, Montana, South Carolina, Kentucky, Alabama, and North Carolina? lol


Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala A theory of a divided nation

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.



Blue States are from Scandinavia Red States are from Guatemala New Republic

Can Scott Walker make the case for conservatism?

Economy Killer Scott Walker Takes Wisconsin to 49th in the Country

But Walker has developed a consistent record for failure. Republicans try to blame the economy, but these measurements put his state at the bottom with a projected decrease in growth, compared to others that indicate growth.
And then there’s the other data. In March of this year, Wisconsin plunged to 44th in private sector job growth. Also, Wisconsin came in as the fifth worst in terms of the erosion in private-sector wages.

Forbes named Wisconsin one of the “worst states” for business in December of 2012. Wisconsin is 44th for overall economic performance and 39th for business climate.

In May of 2013, the Chamber of Commerce rewarded 2016 hopeful Scott Walker for making Wisconsin last in job growth, noting that he made Wisconsin an “enterprising state”. FYI, an enterprising state is one that embracing right wing ideology, based on the premise that tax cuts will lead to growth, jobs, and general greatness.

However, the Chamber’s own study placed Wisconsin dead last for short term job growth from September 2010 and November 2012.

“Wisconsin clearly is not leading the recovery,” William Delwiche, an economist in Milwaukee at Robert W. Baird & Co, told the Journal Online. That’s an understatement if ever there were one.

Economy Killer Scott Walker Takes Wisconsin to 49th in the Country



Scott Walker has failed Wisconsin and Minnesota is the proof

Scott Walker has failed Wisconsin and Minnesota is the proof - JSOnline

Yes, the GOP fought for Dubyas's tax cuts, the ones where the richest saved over $1,000,000 per family in 9 years from it!


Bush Tax Cuts Have Provided Extremely Large Benefits to Wealthiest Americans Over Last Nine Years

• The average tax cut that people making over $1 million received exceeded $110,000 in each of the last nine years — for a total of more than $1 million over this period.
• The tax cuts made the tax system less progressive.
• 
  
  Bush Tax Cuts Have Provided Extremely Large Benefits to Wealthiest Americans Over Last Nine Years mdash Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
  
  
  
  
  Fueled income inequality: This chart from the Congressional Research Service suggests that the Bush tax cuts, which significantly reduce top marginal tax rates and capital gains rates, helped widen income inequality in the 2000s. As the report says, “as the top tax rates are reduced, the share of income accruing to the top of the income distribution increases — that is, income disparities increase.” This chart shows how the percentage of income flowing to the top 0.1 percent of earners increases as top tax rates decrease.
  
  
  
  
  Benefited the wealthy: By any measure, the Bush tax cuts have benefited the wealthy more than the middle class. Here’s a chart, based on data from the Tax Policy Center, showing the distributional breakdown of the Bush tax cuts before they were amended on Tuesday. Going forward, the top 1 percent of earners will benefit much less -- though still quite a bit.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  The legacy of the Bush tax cuts in four charts - The Washington Post
  
  
  
  

nailed it big time ... great response

You two are retards...

 

[Dad2three]

Statistics and actions substantiate many/most of the accusations levied against this administration's immigration policies. Saying there's no evidence the democrats are flooding the US with illegals is equivalent to saying there's no evidence democrats are socialist. A population of upper middle class voters benefits the republicans... a population of poverty stricken voters benefits the democrats... these are easy to prove statistical facts that tie directly to policies and platforms of the two parties.

Explain why 90%+ of scientists self ID as Dems/Libs?


Explain hoe red states are so poor, and blue states pay the freight?

Yes, the platform of the GOP is gut taxes for the rich, note how the ONLY tax increase they didn't fight to keep, was Obama's temp 2% reduction on SS?


Explain why GOP Guv in Wisconsin's 'conservative test' is failing?



Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala A theory of a divided nation

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.


Blue States are from Scandinavia Red States are from Guatemala New Republic

Ok... this once I'll answer your questions:

You asked: Explain why 90%+ of scientists self ID as Dems/Libs?

Easy, that is just not true. Show me where 90% of scientists self identify as democrat. Are you talking about high school teachers? Engineers? Define scientist and tell me who you are polling.

You asked: Explain hoe red states are so poor, and blue states pay the freight?

Easy, that is just not true. Republican states are less expensive to live in, one result of being less expensive is the average rate of pay can also be lower due to the cost of living being lower. Additionally, many retired folks live in republican states. Most bullshit reports about red states sucking down welfare are counting SS as welfare, which is a lie. Further, many of the republican states are in proximity to where the immigration, legal and illegal, is occurring. Still further, many pf the republican states are rural states with lots of farms and such, where incomes are generally lower. You can't compare a job picking strawberries, with a job trading stocks on the NY stock exchange. Even further, just because a state is republican, does not mean everyone in the state is republican. Shockingly there are many millions of democrats in republican states. Even more shockingly, there are many millions of republicans in democrat states. You assume, incorrectly that the republicans in democrat states are donating their incomes as "democrats" and you also assume, incorrectly that democrats receiving welfare in republican states are doing so as republicans. IOW you're a fool for believing said lies.

You said: Yes, the platform of the GOP is gut taxes for the rich, note how the ONLY tax increase they didn't fight to keep, was Obama's temp 2% reduction on SS?

Nonsense! Bush's tax breaks reduced taxes for the middle class and poor SIGNIFICANTLY MORE by percentage of income than it did for the upper income classes. SIGNIFICANTLY BIGGER CUTS WENT TO THE POOR However, the democrats are apparently math challenged and don't understand that going from 8% taxes to zero percent taxes is a significantly bigger tax cut than going from 35% to 28% or from 28% to 23%. Or the democrats start lying about capital gains taxes being the same thing as personal income taxes. IOW the democrats for the most part are silent to the truth, mentally handicapped, or liars... you pick. As for the 2% reduction on SS.. OMFG SS payments are to fund SS. Are you democrats actually arguing to DEFUND SOCIAL SECURITY? WTF?

Got it, you have all the right wing memes (LIES) down


Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans: Pew Poll

The ideological discrepancies were similar. Nine percent of scientists said they were "conservative" while 52 percent described themselves as "liberal," and 14 percent "very liberal."

Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans Pew Poll



Weird, immigration is happening in the poorest red states like Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee, West Virginia, Louisiana, Montana, South Carolina, Kentucky, Alabama, and North Carolina? lol


Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala A theory of a divided nation

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.



Blue States are from Scandinavia Red States are from Guatemala New Republic

Can Scott Walker make the case for conservatism?

Economy Killer Scott Walker Takes Wisconsin to 49th in the Country

But Walker has developed a consistent record for failure. Republicans try to blame the economy, but these measurements put his state at the bottom with a projected decrease in growth, compared to others that indicate growth.
And then there’s the other data. In March of this year, Wisconsin plunged to 44th in private sector job growth. Also, Wisconsin came in as the fifth worst in terms of the erosion in private-sector wages.

Forbes named Wisconsin one of the “worst states” for business in December of 2012. Wisconsin is 44th for overall economic performance and 39th for business climate.

In May of 2013, the Chamber of Commerce rewarded 2016 hopeful Scott Walker for making Wisconsin last in job growth, noting that he made Wisconsin an “enterprising state”. FYI, an enterprising state is one that embracing right wing ideology, based on the premise that tax cuts will lead to growth, jobs, and general greatness.

However, the Chamber’s own study placed Wisconsin dead last for short term job growth from September 2010 and November 2012.

“Wisconsin clearly is not leading the recovery,” William Delwiche, an economist in Milwaukee at Robert W. Baird & Co, told the Journal Online. That’s an understatement if ever there were one.

Economy Killer Scott Walker Takes Wisconsin to 49th in the Country



Scott Walker has failed Wisconsin and Minnesota is the proof

Scott Walker has failed Wisconsin and Minnesota is the proof - JSOnline

Yes, the GOP fought for Dubyas's tax cuts, the ones where the richest saved over $1,000,000 per family in 9 years from it!


Bush Tax Cuts Have Provided Extremely Large Benefits to Wealthiest Americans Over Last Nine Years

• The average tax cut that people making over $1 million received exceeded $110,000 in each of the last nine years — for a total of more than $1 million over this period.
• The tax cuts made the tax system less progressive.
• 
  
  Bush Tax Cuts Have Provided Extremely Large Benefits to Wealthiest Americans Over Last Nine Years mdash Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
  
  
  
  
  Fueled income inequality: This chart from the Congressional Research Service suggests that the Bush tax cuts, which significantly reduce top marginal tax rates and capital gains rates, helped widen income inequality in the 2000s. As the report says, “as the top tax rates are reduced, the share of income accruing to the top of the income distribution increases — that is, income disparities increase.” This chart shows how the percentage of income flowing to the top 0.1 percent of earners increases as top tax rates decrease.
  
  
  
  
  Benefited the wealthy: By any measure, the Bush tax cuts have benefited the wealthy more than the middle class. Here’s a chart, based on data from the Tax Policy Center, showing the distributional breakdown of the Bush tax cuts before they were amended on Tuesday. Going forward, the top 1 percent of earners will benefit much less -- though still quite a bit.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  The legacy of the Bush tax cuts in four charts - The Washington Post
  
  
  

nailed it big time ... great response

You two are retards...

July 30, 2012


Bush Tax Cuts Have Provided Extremely Large Benefits to Wealthiest Americans Over Last Nine Years

• The average tax cut that people making over $1 million received exceeded $110,000 in each of the last nine years — for a total of more than $1 million over this period.
• The tax cuts made the tax system less progressive.
  
  

Bush Tax Cuts Have Provided Extremely Large Benefits to Wealthiest Americans Over Last Nine Years mdash Center on Budget and Policy Priorities


CBO: Bush Tax Cuts Responsible For Almost A Third Of Deficit In Last 10 Years (2001-2010)




TOP 1% GOT 30% OF BUSH TAX CUTS, TOP 20% RECEIVED 74% OF BENEFITS


Benefited the wealthy: By any measure, the Bush tax cuts have benefited the wealthy more than the middle class.

The legacy of the Bush tax cuts in four charts - The Washington Post



EFFECTIVE TAX RATE HISTORY

 

[Dad2three]

Glad you agree, you lost the actual debate

^dumb ass thinks cutting an pasting is debating.

Got it, you don't like credible sources to back up MY posit!

what a fucking dumb ass you are... you actually believe me paying 1million in taxes and "saving" 100k in taxes is a bigger tax break than someone else paying ZERO IN TAXES AND SAVING 5K. You're an idiot.

Talk about an idiot, you think someone went from a $5,000 income tax bill to zero? lol

Yes. Many did, ya dumb ass. The rates on lower income were cut the most, esp. when factoring in the doubling of exemptions.

Gaaaawd you are a moron

PLEASE cite or link ANY $5,000 tax cut from ANY group who falls in the bottom 50% of US? lol

The legacy of the Bush tax cuts, in four charts

2. Fueled income inequality: This chart from the Congressional Research Service suggests that the Bush tax cuts, which significantly reduce top marginal tax rates and capital gains rates, helped widen income inequality in the 2000s. As the report says, “as the top tax rates are reduced, the share of income accruing to the top of the income distribution increases — that is, income disparities increase.” This chart shows how the percentage of income flowing to the top 0.1 percent of earners increases as top tax rates decrease.


3. Benefited the wealthy: By any measure, the Bush tax cuts have benefited the wealthy more than the middle class.

The legacy of the Bush tax cuts in four charts - The Washington Post

 

[Dad2three]

A lot of Republicans complain about voter fraud. Indiana Secretary of State Charlie White actually committed it

So long as you’re a Republican, you won’t spend any time in jail for voter fraud. And, if you’re Charlie White, Indiana’s lucky, now-former Republican secretary of state who received just one year of home detention for all of those crimes, you’ll likely be “elated,” just as White was after his sentencing hearing last week.

Voter fraud retires shameless GOP official - Salon.com



December 07, 2011

Conviction in GOP voter-suppression scheme

Paul E. Schurick, the 2010 campaign manager for former Maryland governor Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., was convicted Tuesday by a Baltimore jury of four counts stemming from a robocall that prosecutors said was intended to suppress the black vote.


Fortunately, other members of the former Republican governor’s team will also stand trial for their role.

Conviction in GOP voter-suppression scheme Political Animal The Washington Monthly


The irony is, the fraud Republicans are worried about is imaginary, while the real-world fraud is coming from their side of the political divide.


A major probe by the Justice Department between 2002 and 2007 failed to prosecute a single person for going to the polls and impersonating an eligible voter, which the anti-fraud laws are supposedly designed to stop.

Out of the 300 million votes cast in that period, federal prosecutors convicted only 86 people for voter fraud – and many of the cases involved immigrants and former felons who were simply unaware of their ineligibility.

A much-hyped investigation in Wisconsin, meanwhile, led to the prosecution of only .0007 percent of the local electorate for alleged voter fraud.

"Our democracy is under siege from an enemy so small it could be hiding anywhere," joked Stephen Colbert.

It's true, some idiot republicans commit retail voter fraud; but then again the Dems are deeply into wholesale voter fraud, and those can change the outcome of elections, particularly primary elections.

Retail fraud can have very small effect beyond damaging the reputation of the party whose candidates or voters who commit it.

PLEASE link this 'wholesale' fraud thing?

 

[RKMBrown]

Explain why 90%+ of scientists self ID as Dems/Libs?


Explain hoe red states are so poor, and blue states pay the freight?

Yes, the platform of the GOP is gut taxes for the rich, note how the ONLY tax increase they didn't fight to keep, was Obama's temp 2% reduction on SS?


Explain why GOP Guv in Wisconsin's 'conservative test' is failing?



Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala A theory of a divided nation

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.


Blue States are from Scandinavia Red States are from Guatemala New Republic

Ok... this once I'll answer your questions:

You asked: Explain why 90%+ of scientists self ID as Dems/Libs?

Easy, that is just not true. Show me where 90% of scientists self identify as democrat. Are you talking about high school teachers? Engineers? Define scientist and tell me who you are polling.

You asked: Explain hoe red states are so poor, and blue states pay the freight?

Easy, that is just not true. Republican states are less expensive to live in, one result of being less expensive is the average rate of pay can also be lower due to the cost of living being lower. Additionally, many retired folks live in republican states. Most bullshit reports about red states sucking down welfare are counting SS as welfare, which is a lie. Further, many of the republican states are in proximity to where the immigration, legal and illegal, is occurring. Still further, many pf the republican states are rural states with lots of farms and such, where incomes are generally lower. You can't compare a job picking strawberries, with a job trading stocks on the NY stock exchange. Even further, just because a state is republican, does not mean everyone in the state is republican. Shockingly there are many millions of democrats in republican states. Even more shockingly, there are many millions of republicans in democrat states. You assume, incorrectly that the republicans in democrat states are donating their incomes as "democrats" and you also assume, incorrectly that democrats receiving welfare in republican states are doing so as republicans. IOW you're a fool for believing said lies.

You said: Yes, the platform of the GOP is gut taxes for the rich, note how the ONLY tax increase they didn't fight to keep, was Obama's temp 2% reduction on SS?

Nonsense! Bush's tax breaks reduced taxes for the middle class and poor SIGNIFICANTLY MORE by percentage of income than it did for the upper income classes. SIGNIFICANTLY BIGGER CUTS WENT TO THE POOR However, the democrats are apparently math challenged and don't understand that going from 8% taxes to zero percent taxes is a significantly bigger tax cut than going from 35% to 28% or from 28% to 23%. Or the democrats start lying about capital gains taxes being the same thing as personal income taxes. IOW the democrats for the most part are silent to the truth, mentally handicapped, or liars... you pick. As for the 2% reduction on SS.. OMFG SS payments are to fund SS. Are you democrats actually arguing to DEFUND SOCIAL SECURITY? WTF?

Got it, you have all the right wing memes (LIES) down


Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans: Pew Poll

The ideological discrepancies were similar. Nine percent of scientists said they were "conservative" while 52 percent described themselves as "liberal," and 14 percent "very liberal."

Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans Pew Poll



Weird, immigration is happening in the poorest red states like Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee, West Virginia, Louisiana, Montana, South Carolina, Kentucky, Alabama, and North Carolina? lol


Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala A theory of a divided nation

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.



Blue States are from Scandinavia Red States are from Guatemala New Republic

Can Scott Walker make the case for conservatism?

Economy Killer Scott Walker Takes Wisconsin to 49th in the Country

But Walker has developed a consistent record for failure. Republicans try to blame the economy, but these measurements put his state at the bottom with a projected decrease in growth, compared to others that indicate growth.
And then there’s the other data. In March of this year, Wisconsin plunged to 44th in private sector job growth. Also, Wisconsin came in as the fifth worst in terms of the erosion in private-sector wages.

Forbes named Wisconsin one of the “worst states” for business in December of 2012. Wisconsin is 44th for overall economic performance and 39th for business climate.

In May of 2013, the Chamber of Commerce rewarded 2016 hopeful Scott Walker for making Wisconsin last in job growth, noting that he made Wisconsin an “enterprising state”. FYI, an enterprising state is one that embracing right wing ideology, based on the premise that tax cuts will lead to growth, jobs, and general greatness.

However, the Chamber’s own study placed Wisconsin dead last for short term job growth from September 2010 and November 2012.

“Wisconsin clearly is not leading the recovery,” William Delwiche, an economist in Milwaukee at Robert W. Baird & Co, told the Journal Online. That’s an understatement if ever there were one.

Economy Killer Scott Walker Takes Wisconsin to 49th in the Country



Scott Walker has failed Wisconsin and Minnesota is the proof

Scott Walker has failed Wisconsin and Minnesota is the proof - JSOnline

Yes, the GOP fought for Dubyas's tax cuts, the ones where the richest saved over $1,000,000 per family in 9 years from it!


Bush Tax Cuts Have Provided Extremely Large Benefits to Wealthiest Americans Over Last Nine Years

• The average tax cut that people making over $1 million received exceeded $110,000 in each of the last nine years — for a total of more than $1 million over this period.
• The tax cuts made the tax system less progressive.
• 
  
  Bush Tax Cuts Have Provided Extremely Large Benefits to Wealthiest Americans Over Last Nine Years mdash Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
  
  
  
  
  Fueled income inequality: This chart from the Congressional Research Service suggests that the Bush tax cuts, which significantly reduce top marginal tax rates and capital gains rates, helped widen income inequality in the 2000s. As the report says, “as the top tax rates are reduced, the share of income accruing to the top of the income distribution increases — that is, income disparities increase.” This chart shows how the percentage of income flowing to the top 0.1 percent of earners increases as top tax rates decrease.
  
  
  
  
  Benefited the wealthy: By any measure, the Bush tax cuts have benefited the wealthy more than the middle class. Here’s a chart, based on data from the Tax Policy Center, showing the distributional breakdown of the Bush tax cuts before they were amended on Tuesday. Going forward, the top 1 percent of earners will benefit much less -- though still quite a bit.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  The legacy of the Bush tax cuts in four charts - The Washington Post
  
  

nailed it big time ... great response

You two are retards...

July 30, 2012


Bush Tax Cuts Have Provided Extremely Large Benefits to Wealthiest Americans Over Last Nine Years

• The average tax cut that people making over $1 million received exceeded $110,000 in each of the last nine years — for a total of more than $1 million over this period.
• The tax cuts made the tax system less progressive.
  

Bush Tax Cuts Have Provided Extremely Large Benefits to Wealthiest Americans Over Last Nine Years mdash Center on Budget and Policy Priorities


CBO: Bush Tax Cuts Responsible For Almost A Third Of Deficit In Last 10 Years (2001-2010)




TOP 1% GOT 30% OF BUSH TAX CUTS, TOP 20% RECEIVED 74% OF BENEFITS


Benefited the wealthy: By any measure, the Bush tax cuts have benefited the wealthy more than the middle class.

The legacy of the Bush tax cuts in four charts - The Washington Post



EFFECTIVE TAX RATE HISTORY

Dumb ass retard thinks the rich used to pay a 71% tax rate. Dumb ass retard also thinks a 20% tax cut for the rich is bigger than a 20% reduction for the poor. Why? Because he's a dumb ass retard.