A question for those who support abortion.

[RDD_1210]

Independency for basic human function is "semantics?"
Wow ok lol

Both the fetus and the one that was born are capable of living outside the womb. Your assertion that one is a person and the other is not defies all logic and common sense. But neither one is your strong point.

A fetus isnt capable until it comes out. Until then, it isnt capable of the most basic human functions. Such as consumption, breathing etc
You can say basic biology defies logic if you want. It makes you look illogical.

Seems most states consider it murder if you kill the 'fetus' when you kill the mother.

man arrested for killing unborn babies - Yahoo Search Results

I know. Thats not the same thing, though. The mother alone has the right to decide whether to rid herself of the unborn. Not someone else.

Here is a link to a photo of an aborted 28 week old fetus. Take a good look and tell me it is not a person. I dare you.

Redirect Notice

Do you have any idea how many abortions are happening at 28 weeks?

Hint: VERY little.

 

[RDD_1210]

Again, an UNBORN baby is not capable of that. Take the baby out, and it can.
Thats why i said the killing of the born was murder and not the unborn.
I honestly dont see how my opinion is that confusing.
You relate being completely dependent on another life to breath and consume is like a place. That is absurd. That "place" is what keeps it alive. Without it, the unborn will die. Or take it out and then it can be independent completing basic human functions.
Again, not complicated.

Both babies are identical except for location. Both are fully developed except for gaining weight. Both of them sleep and even dream. Both can sense and react to their environment. Once again, your only defense is location. Again, Ludicrous. You're an idiot.

If you really think a mothers belly is nothing more than "location" there is no sense in discussing this with you. Either you failed first grade science or you are willfully blinded.. Just aint worth it. Good day.

If you can't comprehend the fact that there is no difference between a child in the womb and one that has been born prematurely, then you are willfully blind. Just ain't worth it. Good day. PUNK!

Hackery hates the most BASIC science and logic. If it didnt, it wouldnt exist.

Question for you. If a 28 week fetus is not alive, then what is it? By every medical definition known to man, it is alive.

If you're so worried about "killing babies in the womb" I assume you have the biggest beef with god since all those miscarriages are gods will and thus God is the leading cause of abortions. Right?

 

[RWNJ]

Both babies are identical except for location. Both are fully developed except for gaining weight. Both of them sleep and even dream. Both can sense and react to their environment. Once again, your only defense is location. Again, Ludicrous. You're an idiot.

If you really think a mothers belly is nothing more than "location" there is no sense in discussing this with you. Either you failed first grade science or you are willfully blinded.. Just aint worth it. Good day.

If you can't comprehend the fact that there is no difference between a child in the womb and one that has been born prematurely, then you are willfully blind. Just ain't worth it. Good day. PUNK!

Hackery hates the most BASIC science and logic. If it didnt, it wouldnt exist.

Question for you. If a 28 week fetus is not alive, then what is it? By every medical definition known to man, it is alive.

Last post to your hack ass today
Alive - having life
Life - the period from birth to death or the sequence of mental and physical occurrences that make up an individual
individual - a distinct entity
A fetus meets none of those standards as it depends on the mother for nutrition and oxygen.
This is basic shit. Try reading a middle school science book.

At 28 weeks, a fetus can survive outside the womb. I ask again. How is one murder and the other not murder? You continue to avoid the question. Both are at the same stage of development and capable of living outside the womb. Why is one a person and the other not a person?

 

[TNHarley]

What if god told my wife to kill her fetus. Would some fo you be ok with it then?

 

[RDD_1210]

91.5% of abortions were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.2%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.3%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.

Abortion | Data and Statistics | Reproductive Health | CDC

And your ridiculous scenario is about 28 weeks. What is your point? Want to advocate outlawing abortions after 28 weeks? Go for it.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

91.5% of abortions were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.2%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.3%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.

Abortion | Data and Statistics | Reproductive Health | CDC

And your ridiculous scenario is about 28 weeks. What is your point? Want to advocate outlawing abortions after 28 weeks? Go for it.

I would rather outlaw liberals at 1 week gestation, that way the world would be a better place as the miserable wretches wouldn't be around to FORCE the rest of Us with their misery and poverty...

 

[RWNJ]

Both babies are identical except for location. Both are fully developed except for gaining weight. Both of them sleep and even dream. Both can sense and react to their environment. Once again, your only defense is location. Again, Ludicrous. You're an idiot.

If you really think a mothers belly is nothing more than "location" there is no sense in discussing this with you. Either you failed first grade science or you are willfully blinded.. Just aint worth it. Good day.

If you can't comprehend the fact that there is no difference between a child in the womb and one that has been born prematurely, then you are willfully blind. Just ain't worth it. Good day. PUNK!

Hackery hates the most BASIC science and logic. If it didnt, it wouldnt exist.

Question for you. If a 28 week fetus is not alive, then what is it? By every medical definition known to man, it is alive.

If you're so worried about "killing babies in the womb" I assume you have the biggest beef with god since all those miscarriages are gods will and thus God is the leading cause of abortions. Right?

Another idiot heard from. Allow me to educate you. Spontaneous abortions are not the act of a person. They happen because of problems with genetics or other factors that are beyond our control. And God did not cause those spontaneous abortions. They are the result of our fallen condition...the result of sin. So it's our fault.

 

[sakinago]

Two women get pregnant at the same time. At 28 weeks, one woman has a premature birth. She then kills her baby and goes to prison for murder. The other women kills her baby at 28 weeks, while it's still in the womb. No one says anything about it. No charges are filed. Once again, the babies are the same age. Should the woman who had the abortion also be charged with murder?

I require a simple yes or no answer. There are no alternatives. They are both guilty of murder, or neither one is.

Havent you posted this before?
The woman who killed her child murdered it. The one who had an abortion removed a fetus.
When you eat scrambled eggs from a fertilized chicken egg, do you say you are eating scrambled eggs or scrambled chicken?

A. So a fetus only differs from a child based on location with respect to the mother? And when it is a “fetus” there is no death involved, only removal?
B. No one ever eats fertilized chicken eggs. Or I should say a large majority never eat fertilized chicken eggs. Maybe if you own chickens with a rooster...but then there’s also no moral quandary there because your also probably the type of person who will eat the chickens when they start slowing with their egg production. So yes it would be scrambled chicken, and that’s not a moral problem when you eat chicken in the first place.

 

[sakinago]

Two women get pregnant at the same time. At 28 weeks, one woman has a premature birth. She then kills her baby and goes to prison for murder. The other women kills her baby at 28 weeks, while it's still in the womb. No one says anything about it. No charges are filed. Once again, the babies are the same age. Should the woman who had the abortion also be charged with murder?

I require a simple yes or no answer. There are no alternatives. They are both guilty of murder, or neither one is.

Havent you posted this before?
The woman who killed her child murdered it. The one who had an abortion removed a fetus.
When you eat scrambled eggs from a fertilized chicken egg, do you say you are eating scrambled eggs or scrambled chicken?

Both babies were at the same stage of development. So why is one murder and the other not murder?

They aren't at the same stage of development. One was born, the other was not.

That doesn’t mean they aren’t at the same stage of development. That’s why we have the term pre-mature, because the baby comes before it has reached standard maturity. They are both at the same stages. One with medical complications as in the premature birth, and one with no medical complications.

 

[RWNJ]

Both the fetus and the one that was born are capable of living outside the womb. Your assertion that one is a person and the other is not defies all logic and common sense. But neither one is your strong point.

A fetus isnt capable until it comes out. Until then, it isnt capable of the most basic human functions. Such as consumption, breathing etc
You can say basic biology defies logic if you want. It makes you look illogical.

Seems most states consider it murder if you kill the 'fetus' when you kill the mother.

man arrested for killing unborn babies - Yahoo Search Results

I know. Thats not the same thing, though. The mother alone has the right to decide whether to rid herself of the unborn. Not someone else.

Here is a link to a photo of an aborted 28 week old fetus. Take a good look and tell me it is not a person. I dare you.

Redirect Notice

Do you have any idea how many abortions are happening at 28 weeks?

Hint: VERY little.

Why are you avoiding the question? This is not a matter of scale. It is a simple question. Is there a difference between babies at the same stage of development whether they are inside the womb or not? Is there a difference in killing it inside or outside the womb? Answer the question.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Two women get pregnant at the same time. At 28 weeks, one woman has a premature birth. She then kills her baby and goes to prison for murder. The other women kills her baby at 28 weeks, while it's still in the womb. No one says anything about it. No charges are filed. Once again, the babies are the same age. Should the woman who had the abortion also be charged with murder?

I require a simple yes or no answer. There are no alternatives. They are both guilty of murder, or neither one is.

Scott Peterson wants to weigh in...

 

[ph3iron]

Two women get pregnant at the same time. At 28 weeks, one woman has a premature birth. She then kills her baby and goes to prison for murder. The other women kills her baby at 28 weeks, while it's still in the womb. No one says anything about it. No charges are filed. Once again, the babies are the same age. Should the woman who had the abortion also be charged with murder?

I require a simple yes or no answer. There are no alternatives. They are both guilty of murder, or neither one is.

Neither.
You a member of the "zip it up, see you later brigade"?
Old white fart?
Viagra not working?
These nasty women have no say, that's what I say

 

[RWNJ]

What if god told my wife to kill her fetus. Would some fo you be ok with it then?

Yawn! More deflection. Typical liberal BS. Next.

 

[Votto]

Two women get pregnant at the same time. At 28 weeks, one woman has a premature birth. She then kills her baby and goes to prison for murder. The other women kills her baby at 28 weeks, while it's still in the womb. No one says anything about it. No charges are filed. Once again, the babies are the same age. Should the woman who had the abortion also be charged with murder?

I require a simple yes or no answer. There are no alternatives. They are both guilty of murder, or neither one is.

The fetus does not become human until it passes out of the birth canal because it is at this time that the birth fairy comes down and waves her magic wand making it human!

 

[ph3iron]

Two women get pregnant at the same time. At 28 weeks, one woman has a premature birth. She then kills her baby and goes to prison for murder. The other women kills her baby at 28 weeks, while it's still in the womb. No one says anything about it. No charges are filed. Once again, the babies are the same age. Should the woman who had the abortion also be charged with murder?

I require a simple yes or no answer. There are no alternatives. They are both guilty of murder, or neither one is.

I missed how many babies you have adopted.
Time for a real religion.
Islam?

 

[TNHarley]

Two women get pregnant at the same time. At 28 weeks, one woman has a premature birth. She then kills her baby and goes to prison for murder. The other women kills her baby at 28 weeks, while it's still in the womb. No one says anything about it. No charges are filed. Once again, the babies are the same age. Should the woman who had the abortion also be charged with murder?

I require a simple yes or no answer. There are no alternatives. They are both guilty of murder, or neither one is.

Havent you posted this before?
The woman who killed her child murdered it. The one who had an abortion removed a fetus.
When you eat scrambled eggs from a fertilized chicken egg, do you say you are eating scrambled eggs or scrambled chicken?

A. So a fetus only differs from a child based on location with respect to the mother? And when it is a “fetus” there is no death involved, only removal?
B. No one ever eats fertilized chicken eggs. Or I should say a large majority never eat fertilized chicken eggs. Maybe if you own chickens with a rooster...but then there’s also no moral quandary there because your also probably the type of person who will eat the chickens when they start slowing with their egg production. So yes it would be scrambled chicken, and that’s not a moral problem when you eat chicken in the first place.

Dependency for basic human function IE survival is more than location.
This rhetoric is not only worn out, it is idiotic.

 

[ph3iron]

A fetus isnt capable until it comes out. Until then, it isnt capable of the most basic human functions. Such as consumption, breathing etc
You can say basic biology defies logic if you want. It makes you look illogical.

Seems most states consider it murder if you kill the 'fetus' when you kill the mother.

man arrested for killing unborn babies - Yahoo Search Results

I know. Thats not the same thing, though. The mother alone has the right to decide whether to rid herself of the unborn. Not someone else.

Here is a link to a photo of an aborted 28 week old fetus. Take a good look and tell me it is not a person. I dare you.

Redirect Notice

Do you have any idea how many abortions are happening at 28 weeks?

Hint: VERY little.

Why are you avoiding the question? This is not a matter of scale. It is a simple question. Is there a difference between babies at the same stage of development whether they are inside the womb or not? Is there a difference in killing it inside or outside the womb? Answer the question.

Nothing like a simple question for very simple minds

 

[Votto]

Two women get pregnant at the same time. At 28 weeks, one woman has a premature birth. She then kills her baby and goes to prison for murder. The other women kills her baby at 28 weeks, while it's still in the womb. No one says anything about it. No charges are filed. Once again, the babies are the same age. Should the woman who had the abortion also be charged with murder?

I require a simple yes or no answer. There are no alternatives. They are both guilty of murder, or neither one is.

I missed how many babies you have adopted.
Time for a real religion.
Islam?

15.

Want one?

 

[RWNJ]

Two women get pregnant at the same time. At 28 weeks, one woman has a premature birth. She then kills her baby and goes to prison for murder. The other women kills her baby at 28 weeks, while it's still in the womb. No one says anything about it. No charges are filed. Once again, the babies are the same age. Should the woman who had the abortion also be charged with murder?

I require a simple yes or no answer. There are no alternatives. They are both guilty of murder, or neither one is.

I missed how many babies you have adopted.
Time for a real religion.
Islam?

A baby is something that I would not be able to raise properly. For several reasons. The main one being financial. I couldn't afford it. What's your excuse? How many have YOU adopted?

 

[Borillar]

Two women get pregnant at the same time. At 28 weeks, one woman has a premature birth. She then kills her baby and goes to prison for murder. The other women kills her baby at 28 weeks, while it's still in the womb. No one says anything about it. No charges are filed. Once again, the babies are the same age. Should the woman who had the abortion also be charged with murder?

I require a simple yes or no answer. There are no alternatives. They are both guilty of murder, or neither one is.

Havent you posted this before?
The woman who killed her child murdered it. The one who had an abortion removed a fetus.
When you eat scrambled eggs from a fertilized chicken egg, do you say you are eating scrambled eggs or scrambled chicken?

Both babies were at the same stage of development. So why is one murder and the other not murder?

They aren't at the same stage of development. One was born, the other was not.

That doesn’t mean they aren’t at the same stage of development. That’s why we have the term pre-mature, because the baby comes before it has reached standard maturity. They are both at the same stages. One with medical complications as in the premature birth, and one with no medical complications.

Once the kid is born, he or she is a living, breathing person apart from the mother. He or she is also a citizen with full constitutional rights and protections.