Will Trump lead a coalition to open the Hormuz Strait? (Poll)

[kyzr]

Will Britain cobble together a willing coalition, including the US to militarily open the strait of Hormuz?

European, Gulf nations scramble to solve Strait of Hormuz crisis after Trump says allies should take lead

President Donald Trump said the U.S. will soon wrap up its Iran operations, suggesting allies must take the lead in dealing with much of the aftermath.

www.stripes.com

A coalition of at least 35 nations was set to gather virtually on Thursday — without the U.S. — to explore ways to reopen the strait. The talks, hosted by Britain, included France, Germany, Italy, Canada, the Netherlands, the United Arab Emirates and the European Union’s foreign policy chief, Kaja Kallas.
Lesser argued that reopening the strait by force would require the US and European allies to work together. “Ideally, this [Starmer’s coalition] would not be a replacement for US forces, but rather a larger coalition operating alongside the US,” he said.

Trump said Japan and South Korea don't want to use military force. India and China won't. That leaves the NATO countries, who don't want to get into a war with Iran.

What to do when Iran terrorizes the world and the US doesn't do all the heavy lifting?
Trump is showing that it takes will power and military power to take nuclear weapons off of Iran.

The UN is no help since Russia and China side with Iran.

 

[martybegan]

Will Britain cobble together a willing coalition, including the US to militarily open the strait of Hormuz?

European, Gulf nations scramble to solve Strait of Hormuz crisis after Trump says allies should take lead

President Donald Trump said the U.S. will soon wrap up its Iran operations, suggesting allies must take the lead in dealing with much of the aftermath.

www.stripes.com

A coalition of at least 35 nations was set to gather virtually on Thursday — without the U.S. — to explore ways to reopen the strait. The talks, hosted by Britain, included France, Germany, Italy, Canada, the Netherlands, the United Arab Emirates and the European Union’s foreign policy chief, Kaja Kallas.
Lesser argued that reopening the strait by force would require the US and European allies to work together. “Ideally, this [Starmer’s coalition] would not be a replacement for US forces, but rather a larger coalition operating alongside the US,” he said.

Trump said Japan and South Korea don't want to use military force. India and China won't. That leaves the NATO countries, who don't want to get into a war with Iran.

What to do when Iran terrorizes the world and the US doesn't do all the heavy lifting?
Trump is showing that it takes will power and military power to take nuclear weapons off of Iran.

The UN is no help since Russia and China side with Iran.

I am starting to think the people saying they can close the strait won't be around or in power much longer.

 

[Oddball]

 

[Votto]

Will Britain cobble together a willing coalition, including the US to militarily open the strait of Hormuz?

European, Gulf nations scramble to solve Strait of Hormuz crisis after Trump says allies should take lead

President Donald Trump said the U.S. will soon wrap up its Iran operations, suggesting allies must take the lead in dealing with much of the aftermath.

www.stripes.com

A coalition of at least 35 nations was set to gather virtually on Thursday — without the U.S. — to explore ways to reopen the strait. The talks, hosted by Britain, included France, Germany, Italy, Canada, the Netherlands, the United Arab Emirates and the European Union’s foreign policy chief, Kaja Kallas.
Lesser argued that reopening the strait by force would require the US and European allies to work together. “Ideally, this [Starmer’s coalition] would not be a replacement for US forces, but rather a larger coalition operating alongside the US,” he said.

Trump said Japan and South Korea don't want to use military force. India and China won't. That leaves the NATO countries, who don't want to get into a war with Iran.

What to do when Iran terrorizes the world and the US doesn't do all the heavy lifting?
Trump is showing that it takes will power and military power to take nuclear weapons off of Iran.

The UN is no help since Russia and China side with Iran.

The question becomes, what is more powerful, is it the international TDS, or the international lust for Iranian oil?

 

[Votto]

Will Britain cobble together a willing coalition, including the US to militarily open the strait of Hormuz?

European, Gulf nations scramble to solve Strait of Hormuz crisis after Trump says allies should take lead

President Donald Trump said the U.S. will soon wrap up its Iran operations, suggesting allies must take the lead in dealing with much of the aftermath.

www.stripes.com

A coalition of at least 35 nations was set to gather virtually on Thursday — without the U.S. — to explore ways to reopen the strait. The talks, hosted by Britain, included France, Germany, Italy, Canada, the Netherlands, the United Arab Emirates and the European Union’s foreign policy chief, Kaja Kallas.
Lesser argued that reopening the strait by force would require the US and European allies to work together. “Ideally, this [Starmer’s coalition] would not be a replacement for US forces, but rather a larger coalition operating alongside the US,” he said.

Trump said Japan and South Korea don't want to use military force. India and China won't. That leaves the NATO countries, who don't want to get into a war with Iran.

What to do when Iran terrorizes the world and the US doesn't do all the heavy lifting?
Trump is showing that it takes will power and military power to take nuclear weapons off of Iran.

The UN is no help since Russia and China side with Iran.

I voted no, simply because the governments of the world are all Left leaning, and as such, hate anything associated with Trump.

Now when Obama was President, there was an international effort to destroy the regime in Libya and Obama even got a Nobel Peace Prize out of it as the world hailed him for doing so, that is, Legacy media.

But even though Iran is clearly more of a threat to the world, and even though they treat their citizens much worse as Libya used their oil to give their citizens the highest standard of living in all of Africa while in Iran 80% of the population lives in poverty, the international community will not treat Iran the same.

 

[alang1216]

Will Britain cobble together a willing coalition, including the US to militarily open the strait of Hormuz?

European, Gulf nations scramble to solve Strait of Hormuz crisis after Trump says allies should take lead

President Donald Trump said the U.S. will soon wrap up its Iran operations, suggesting allies must take the lead in dealing with much of the aftermath.

www.stripes.com

A coalition of at least 35 nations was set to gather virtually on Thursday — without the U.S. — to explore ways to reopen the strait. The talks, hosted by Britain, included France, Germany, Italy, Canada, the Netherlands, the United Arab Emirates and the European Union’s foreign policy chief, Kaja Kallas.
Lesser argued that reopening the strait by force would require the US and European allies to work together. “Ideally, this [Starmer’s coalition] would not be a replacement for US forces, but rather a larger coalition operating alongside the US,” he said.

Trump said Japan and South Korea don't want to use military force. India and China won't. That leaves the NATO countries, who don't want to get into a war with Iran.

What to do when Iran terrorizes the world and the US doesn't do all the heavy lifting?
Trump is showing that it takes will power and military power to take nuclear weapons off of Iran.

The UN is no help since Russia and China side with Iran.

They are too smart to say 'no' to Trump and too smart to actually do anything beyond talk. Why should they risk their money and people to clean up Trump's mess?

 

[Votto]

They are too smart to say 'no' to Trump and too smart to actually do anything beyond talk. Why should they risk their money and people to clean up Trump's mess?

Only if they want their oil.

If not, they can walk away as well.

 

[candycorn]

They are too smart to say 'no' to Trump and too smart to actually do anything beyond talk. Why should they risk their money and people to clean up Trump's mess?

When someone climbs out on a branch all alone and then criticizes you for not going out there with him....

If you need him, let him figure out a way to come back.
If you don’t need him, you start sawing the branch.

China is perfectly willing to (and able in many cases) take care of the need. And they’re perfectly willing to sell the saws to whoever wants to saw off the branch under the US.

Thats US Foreign policy in a nutshell. We elected a clown...now we’re having to sit through the circus.

 

[ding]

They are too smart to say 'no' to Trump and too smart to actually do anything beyond talk. Why should they risk their money and people to clean up Trump's mess?

This is Israel's war.

 

[kyzr]

They are too smart to say 'no' to Trump and too smart to actually do anything beyond talk. Why should they risk their money and people to clean up Trump's mess?

I'm not sure it's "Trump's mess" . Whose "mess" was the JCPOA that didn't stop anything?

The weenie countries either do without oil or do something about it. Which is the point of this thread.

Doing without oil, or with very expensive oil will hurt many countries' standard of living.

 

[kyzr]

When someone climbs out on a branch all alone and then criticizes you for not going out there with him....
If you need him, let him figure out a way to come back. If you don’t need him, you start sawing the branch.
China is perfectly willing to (and able in many cases) take care of the need. And they’re perfectly willing to sell the saws to whoever wants to saw off the branch under the US.
Thats US Foreign policy in a nutshell. We elected a clown...now we’re having to sit through the circus.

The "clown" gave Iran $56,000,000,000 to develop nuclear weapons and ICBMs.

The US can withstand the oil crisis better than most countries.

How does it feel living thru what the democrats' "war on energy" would do to the price of energy?

 

[kyzr]

This is Israel's war.

So you're okay with Iran having nukes and ICBMs?

 

[candycorn]

The "clown" gave Iran $56,000,000,000 to develop nuclear weapons and ICBMs.

Factually wrong.

The US can withstand the oil crisis better than most countries.

As price is now well over $4 a gallon, that appears to be factually wrong as well.

How does it feel living thru what the democrats' "war on energy" would do to the price of energy?

Not sure what you’re asking.

I recently rented a hybrid vehicle. Over 300 miles of a relatively modest road trip were on the battery--about a tank of gas was not purchased as a result. So I’m looking at a hybrid for my next car.

 

[candycorn]

So you're okay with Iran having nukes and ICBMs?

They don’t have either. No amount of spin on your part will change that.

 

[ding]

So you're okay with Iran having nukes and ICBMs?

Why are we ok with the other 9 nations? Again.... this is Israel's war. Tell me I'm wrong.

 

[candycorn]

I'm not sure it's "Trump's mess" .

Everyone else is.

The weenie countries either do without oil or do something about it. Which is the point of this thread.

Doing without oil, or with very expensive oil will hurt many countries' standard of living.

What “weenie countries” are you talking about?

 

[alang1216]

I'm not sure it's "Trump's mess" . Whose "mess" was the JCPOA that didn't stop anything?

Did Iran get a nuke under the JCPOA? At least our allies were working with us back then.

The weenie countries either do without oil or do something about it. Which is the point of this thread.

Doing without oil, or with very expensive oil will hurt many countries' standard of living.

In the short term, yes. In the long term they will become more independent of us and may lose our superpower status.

 

[kyzr]

Factually wrong.

Fact Check: Did the US under Obama give Iran $150 Billion?

U.S. is said to have handed $150 billion to Iran eight years ago, as tensions between the two nations worsen.

www.newsweek.com

Then U.S. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew told Congress in July 2015 that Iran gained access to $56 billion via the agreement, a fact check by PolitiFact in 2018 noted.

As price is now well over $4 a gallon, that appears to be factually wrong as well.

Gas is a lot higher in CA and was higher before, it would stay high if the democrat's 'war on energy" continued

U.S. Gasoline Prices (1978-2026)

Interactive monthly chart and 48 years of historical data from 1978 to 2026.

www.macrotrends.net

Not sure what you’re asking.

What would the price of gas be if democrats continued their "war on energy"?

I recently rented a hybrid vehicle. Over 300 miles of a relatively modest road trip were on the battery--about a tank of gas was not purchased as a result. So I’m looking at a hybrid for my next car.

I call bullshit. Hybrids don't have that much range. My Jeep hybrid has 30 miles of a range on just the battery.
Please let me know what "vehicle" that was.

 

[kyzr]

They don’t have either. No amount of spin on your part will change that.

Iran was weeks away from having both, called an "imminent threat".

 

[kyzr]

Why are we ok with the other 9 nations? Again.... this is Israel's war. Tell me I'm wrong.

If its Israel's war why did they do the JCPOA?