Why we need guns? Oregon democrat party Governor released violent gun offender serving life in prison for murdering girl.

[Dragonlady]

This is, of course, a lie.

This is also a lie.

1993-2019 gun-related violent crime in the US fell 55%
1993-2019, the number of guns in the US invreased 40%
Guns make us safer.

Americans keep citing American crime statistics as evidence of the value of guns in crime prevention instead of properly comparing your numbers against those of other first world countries.

 

[2aguy]

Bullshit. You're passing laws to allow anyone to carry at any time. That's insanity and it's why you have the highest murder rate in the first world.

If guns kept you safe, the USA would be the safest country in the world, instead of one where people fear to go to the mall or send their kids to school. When you churches need armed guards to keep people "safe" from mass shooters, your gun laws are a total and complete failure.

You have to explain this....

Over 27 years, from 1993 to the year 2015, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019 (in 2020 that number is 21.52 million)...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
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The gun murder and gun suicide rates in the U.S. both remain below their peak levels. There were 6.2 gun murders per 100,000 people in 2020, below the rate of 7.2 recorded in 1974.


What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.


The gun murder and gun suicide rates in the U.S. both remain below their peak levels. There were 6.2 gun murders per 100,000 people in 2020, below the rate of 7.2 recorded in 1974.


What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.


This means that access to guns does not create gun crime........

Why do our democrat party controlled cities have gun crime problems?

What changed in 2015?

The democrat party did 3 things...

1) they began a war on the police that forced officers to stop pro active police work, allowing criminals to run wild.

2) they began to release the most violent and dangerous gun offenders over and over again, not matter how many times they had been arrested for gun crimes

3) they used their brown shirts, blm/antifa to burn, loot and murder for 7 months in primarily black neighborhoods while the democrat party mayors ordered the police to stand down and not stop them......in order to hurt Trump during the election.

 

[2aguy]

Americans keep citing American crime statistics as evidence of the value of guns in crime prevention instead of properly comparing your numbers against those of other first world countries.

Here....a comparison between us and other First World countries that banned and confiscated guns....

Europe.... between 1939-1945 the governments of Europe under socialist control murdered 15 million innocent men, women and children....not casualties of war, but people taken into forests and sent to death camps.......

15 million people murdered in 6 years.

United States...... 246 years of gun murder.....total murdered....around 2,460,000....these are majority criminals murdered by criminals...not innocent people.


Soooo...Comparison.

Europe.... 6 years....15 million murdered

United States.....246 years....gun murder 2,460,000

That is the truth...that is an accurate comparison.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Americans keep citing American crime statistics...

I'm sorry you don't like the fact more guns = less gun violence.

 

[JoeB131]

Can any of the anti-gun fanatics here on U.S.messageboard explain to us why you guys keep releasing the most dangerous gun criminals?

An explanation would be nice.....

Sure.. You wingnuts keep jamming people in jail for selling pot and other minor non-crimes, that's why they have to let murderers out.

IN this case, he got a life sentence at 18 years old, a sentence that would not be given to an 18 year old today under current sentencing guidelines.

 

[Failzero]

Sure.. You wingnuts keep jamming people in jail for selling pot and other minor non-crimes, that's why they have to let murderers out.

IN this case, he got a life sentence at 18 years old, a sentence that would not be given to an 18 year old today under current sentencing guidelines.

Drugs are legal in Oregon