Why we need guns? Oregon democrat party Governor released violent gun offender serving life in prison for murdering girl.

[Dragonlady]

One of the reasons we need guns in America? The democrat party just simply refuses to keep violent, dangerous criminals in prison.......why do they continue to work to release the most violent monsters back to kill more people?

Oregon’s left-wing Sen. Ron Wyden called Gov. Kate Brown’s release of convicted murderer Kyle Hedquist “grossly irresponsible.”


Wyden said Brown’s decision to show mercy to Kyle Hedquist, now 45, “is wrong on every level, starting with its callousness toward the crime victim’s family and extending to all Oregonians counting on public officials to make decisions with public safety in mind.”
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Brown released Hedquist without bothering to inform the family of Nikki Thrasher, a 19-year-old who may or may not have known that Hedquist committed several burglaries. Hedquist lured Thrasher into the woods and shot her in the back of the head to keep her quiet.

Hedquist was convicted of murder in 1995 and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. But Brown released Thrasher’s executioner because he was such a good boy while in prison.

Holly Thrasher, Nikki’s still-grieving mother, wasn’t informed of her daughter’s murderer’s release until a TV station called her for comment.

“He took the life of my daughter in cold blood. It was a cold-blooded murder. He planned it,” Thrasher said.

Oregon Governor Grants Clemency to Man Who Executed Teen Girl in 1994

pjmedia.com

Can any of the anti-gun fanatics here on U.S.messageboard explain to us why you guys keep releasing the most dangerous gun criminals?

An explanation would be nice.....

People who favour sane and sensible gun laws are not "anti-gun fanatics". They're not "fanatics" at all. They're smart people who know that in jursidictions where handgun ownership is restricted, crime rates, and in particular, gun crime rates, are MUCH, MUCH lower.

 

[2aguy]

People who favour sane and sensible gun laws are not "anti-gun fanatics". They're not "fanatics" at all. They're smart people who know that in jursidictions where handgun ownership is restricted, crime rates, and in particular, gun crime rates, are MUCH, MUCH lower.

Yes...they are.....the "sensible" gun laws they want aren't sensible.....they take guns away from people who don't use them for crime, and do nothing to stop actual criminals or mass public shooters......

You lie so smoothly........nothing you posted about crime rates is true.....the democrat party controlled cities with the strictest gun control laws have the highest gun murder rates.............

 

[Dragonlady]

But,... but.... but.... but....

This is what happens when democrats get a roll and their inner fascist is unleashed.

But remember, democrats aren't looking to ban guns.

Biden calls 9mm ‘high-caliber weapons,’ suggests banning them

President Biden spoke to reporters about his thoughts on 9mm handguns, calling them "high-caliber" and claiming that the Constitution is not "absolute."

www.foxnews.com

President Biden on Monday took aim at 9mm handguns, appearing to suggest that the "high-caliber weapons" ought to be banned.

So you think that individuals have the right to own nuclear weapons????? At what point is a weapon too dangerous for general public sale.

When the police are afraid to take on mass shooters because they have deadlier weapons than the police, it's time to take those weapons off the market.

Banning the sale of certain types of weapons, is not "banning guns".

 

[2aguy]

So you think that individuals have the right to own nuclear weapons????? At what point is a weapon too dangerous for general public sale.

When the police are afraid to take on mass shooters because they have deadlier weapons than the police, it's time to take those weapons off the market.

Banning the sale of certain types of weapons, is not "banning guns".

No.

We have a Right to own and carry ....

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment.

We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997), and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35–36 (2001),

the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.

 

[2aguy]

So you think that individuals have the right to own nuclear weapons????? At what point is a weapon too dangerous for general public sale.

When the police are afraid to take on mass shooters because they have deadlier weapons than the police, it's time to take those weapons off the market.

Banning the sale of certain types of weapons, is not "banning guns".

The police were not afraid to take on the mass public shooter....as the Border Patrol agent who actually entered the room demonstrates......

They were not outgunned...they outgunned the shooter by about 20 rifles, body armor and ballistic shields...you dumb ass...

They were ordered by an agent of your god, government, a democrat party supporter, to not enter the classroom....

And because they followed those orders, they will lives of shame until they die....

A woman in West Virginia, armed with her concealed carry pistol stopped a mass public shooter, armed with an AR-15 rifle, the exact same week....

She didn't have help....she didn't have a rifle.....she didn't have body armor....she didn't have a ballistic shield...

She just had her handgun...and she stopped the shooter...

West Virginia mass shooting stopped...

People like this West Virginia woman who stopped what could have become a mass shooting just a day after Uvalde.

Police said a woman who was lawfully carrying a pistol shot and killed a man who began shooting at a crowd of people Wednesday night in Charleston.
Dennis Butler was killed after allegedly shooting at dozens of people attending a graduation party Wednesday near the Vista View Apartment complex. No injuries were reported from those at the party.
Investigators said Butler was warned about speeding in the area with children present before he left. He later returned with an AR-15-style firearm and began firing into the crowd before he was shot and killed.
“Instead of running from the threat, she engaged with the threat and saved several lives last night,” Charleston Police Department Chief of Detectives Tony Hazelett said.
Officers did not go into detail, but said Butler did have an extensive criminal history.

West Virginia armed citizen stops potential mass shooting
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Banning weapons just "cause," doesn't stop mass public shooters.............you use the dead children to push your agenda, having been shown over and over again that nothing that you demand would have done anything to stop the shooter, and you fight against everything that would have stopped the shooter.....

You are an irrational and irresponsible human being.

 

[Dragonlady]

Yes...they are.....the "sensible" gun laws they want aren't sensible.....they take guns away from people who don't use them for crime, and do nothing to stop actual criminals or mass public shooters......

You lie so smoothly........nothing you posted about crime rates is true.....the democrat party controlled cities with the strictest gun control laws have the highest gun murder rates.............

Bullshit. You're passing laws to allow anyone to carry at any time. That's insanity and it's why you have the highest murder rate in the first world.

If guns kept you safe, the USA would be the safest country in the world, instead of one where people fear to go to the mall or send their kids to school. When you churches need armed guards to keep people "safe" from mass shooters, your gun laws are a total and complete failure.

 

[Dragonlady]

No.

We have a Right to own and carry ....

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment.

We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997), and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35–36 (2001),

the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.

The Trump Court was bought and paid for with dark money, to destroy the country. Keep clinging to your guns. It's all you have left.

 

[2aguy]

Bullshit. You're passing laws to allow anyone to carry at any time. That's insanity and it's why you have the highest murder rate in the first world.

If guns kept you safe, the USA would be the safest country in the world, instead of one where people fear to go to the mall or send their kids to school. When you churches need armed guards to keep people "safe" from mass shooters, your gun laws are a total and complete failure.

No....we have high gun murder rates because of the democrat party.

How do I know you are wrong and I am right?

27 years of history....

Over 27 years, from 1993 to the year 2015, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019 (in 2020 that number is 21.52 million)...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


This means that access to guns does not create gun crime........

Why do our democrat party controlled cities have gun crime problems?

What changed in 2015?

The democrat party did 3 things...

1) they began a war on the police that forced officers to stop pro active police work, allowing criminals to run wild.

2) they began to release the most violent and dangerous gun offenders over and over again, not matter how many times they had been arrested for gun crimes

3) they used their brown shirts, blm/antifa to burn, loot and murder for 7 months in primarily black neighborhoods while the democrat party mayors ordered the police to stand down and not stop them......in order to hurt Trump during the election.

 

[Failzero]

People who favour sane and sensible gun laws are not "anti-gun fanatics". They're not "fanatics" at all. They're smart people who know that in jursidictions where handgun ownership is restricted, crime rates, and in particular, gun crime rates, are MUCH, MUCH lower.

Like Chicago , Los Angeles , Sacramento , Camden , Newark , Flushing / Queens , Baltimore , ...

 

[2aguy]

Bullshit. You're passing laws to allow anyone to carry at any time. That's insanity and it's why you have the highest murder rate in the first world.

If guns kept you safe, the USA would be the safest country in the world, instead of one where people fear to go to the mall or send their kids to school. When you churches need armed guards to keep people "safe" from mass shooters, your gun laws are a total and complete failure.

Last time I checked....our government didn't murder 15 million innocent men, women and children in a period of 6 years...........the governments of Europe, where they banned and confiscated guns did that....

We average around 10,000 gun murders a year...most of the victims of that gun murder are criminals...not innocent people....then, of the rest, who are innocent victims...the majority are the friends and family of the criminals hit by mistake...

So...from 1939 to 2022 that would equal....83 years.....

83 years X 10,000 = 830,000 majority criminals murdered....

Over a period of 83 years......

In 1939, the German socialists began the murder of 15 million people...which didn't end until 1945.....after they followed your advice and banned and confiscated guns from normal people...

6 years.....

so....if you can do the math....can you tell which countries actually murdered more innocent people ?

83 years, 830,000

6 years. 15 million

So.....I'll keep our guns....cause your god, government, slaughters more people in less time than all of our gun murderers do over 83 years......

Can you dig that?

 

[2aguy]

The Trump Court was bought and paid for with dark money, to destroy the country. Keep clinging to your guns. It's all you have left.

Now you are just trying to be funny....

 

[miketx]

By KIMBERLEE KRUESI, Associated Press
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee on Thursday granted clemency for the first time since taking office to 17 people, among them a man who was freed in 2019 after spending 12 years in prison for a killing he has long argued he didn't commit.
Lee exonerated Adam Braseel, who was charged in the 2006 bludgeoning of Malcolm Burrows despite no physical evidence tying him to the scene. He was sentenced to life in prison.
Braseel eventually left prison after entering an Alford plea to aggravated assault. The plea allowed him to maintain his innocence but left him with a felony on his record. Only the Tennessee governor has the power to change that.
“After reviewing the unique merits of each case, I have made the decision to grant these individuals executive clemency,” Lee said in a statement. “These men and women have shown they are ready for productive lives beyond their sentences, and I appreciate the Board of Parole’s consideration in this process.”

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/tennessee/articles/2021-12-02/tennessee-governor-grants-clemency-to-17

Were the jurors wrong.

If there is any justice the next person he kills will be a democrat.

 

[Moonglow]

One of the reasons we need guns in America? The democrat party just simply refuses to keep violent, dangerous criminals in prison.......why do they continue to work to release the most violent monsters back to kill more people?

Oregon’s left-wing Sen. Ron Wyden called Gov. Kate Brown’s release of convicted murderer Kyle Hedquist “grossly irresponsible.”


Wyden said Brown’s decision to show mercy to Kyle Hedquist, now 45, “is wrong on every level, starting with its callousness toward the crime victim’s family and extending to all Oregonians counting on public officials to make decisions with public safety in mind.”
---
Brown released Hedquist without bothering to inform the family of Nikki Thrasher, a 19-year-old who may or may not have known that Hedquist committed several burglaries. Hedquist lured Thrasher into the woods and shot her in the back of the head to keep her quiet.

Hedquist was convicted of murder in 1995 and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. But Brown released Thrasher’s executioner because he was such a good boy while in prison.

Holly Thrasher, Nikki’s still-grieving mother, wasn’t informed of her daughter’s murderer’s release until a TV station called her for comment.

“He took the life of my daughter in cold blood. It was a cold-blooded murder. He planned it,” Thrasher said.

Oregon Governor Grants Clemency to Man Who Executed Teen Girl in 1994

pjmedia.com

Can any of the anti-gun fanatics here on U.S.messageboard explain to us why you guys keep releasing the most dangerous gun criminals?

An explanation would be nice.....

I highly doubt anyone on USMB is a top level admin in the government of the state of Oregon.

 

[Papageorgio]

By KIMBERLEE KRUESI, Associated Press
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee on Thursday granted clemency for the first time since taking office to 17 people, among them a man who was freed in 2019 after spending 12 years in prison for a killing he has long argued he didn't commit.
Lee exonerated Adam Braseel, who was charged in the 2006 bludgeoning of Malcolm Burrows despite no physical evidence tying him to the scene. He was sentenced to life in prison.
Braseel eventually left prison after entering an Alford plea to aggravated assault. The plea allowed him to maintain his innocence but left him with a felony on his record. Only the Tennessee governor has the power to change that.
“After reviewing the unique merits of each case, I have made the decision to grant these individuals executive clemency,” Lee said in a statement. “These men and women have shown they are ready for productive lives beyond their sentences, and I appreciate the Board of Parole’s consideration in this process.”

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/tennessee/articles/2021-12-02/tennessee-governor-grants-clemency-to-17

Were the jurors wrong.

This case there was circumstantial evidence not hard evidence, I could see commuting this sentence. The. Oregon case is that he did murder but he has been a good boy in prison, the two cases are not in anyway shape or form alike.

 

[Failzero]

Last time I checked....our government didn't murder 15 million innocent men, women and children in a period of 6 years...........the governments of Europe, where they banned and confiscated guns did that....

We average around 10,000 gun murders a year...most of the victims of that gun murder are criminals...not innocent people....then, of the rest, who are innocent victims...the majority are the friends and family of the criminals hit by mistake...

So...from 1939 to 2022 that would equal....83 years.....

83 years X 10,000 = 830,000 majority criminals murdered....

Over a period of 83 years......

In 1939, the German socialists began the murder of 15 million people...which didn't end until 1945.....after they followed your advice and banned and confiscated guns from normal people...

6 years.....

so....if you can do the math....can you tell which countries actually murdered more innocent people ?

83 years, 830,000

6 years. 15 million

So.....I'll keep our guns....cause your god, government, slaughters more people in less time than all of our gun murderers do over 83 years......

Can you dig that?

Abortion has killed more Blacks in America since 1974 than Blacks died from War ,Famine ,Natural Disaster ,Auto Accidents ,Lynchings ,Animal Attacks ,electrocution ,STDs ,exposure , Cancer, slip & fall , Sporting Accidents ,execution as Criminals , in last 400 years

 

[Dragonlady]

If there is any justice the next person he kills will be a democrat.

Another day, another right winger wishing death on Democrats. Is it any wonder the right has become so violent that they’re a danger to the nation?

 

[Failzero]

Another day, another right winger wishing death on Democrats. Is it any wonder the right has become so violent that they’re a danger to the nation?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Bullshit. You're passing laws to allow anyone to carry at any time.

This is, of course, a lie.

That's insanity and it's why you have the highest murder rate in the first world.

This is also a lie.

If guns kept you safe, the USA would be the safest country in the world,

1993-2019 gun-related violent crime in the US fell 55%
1993-2019, the number of guns in the US invreased 40%
Guns make us safer.

 

[miketx]

Another day, another right winger wishing death on Democrats. Is it any wonder the right has become so violent that they’re a danger to the nation?

You all need to be purged. You are all filth.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You all need to be purged. You are all filth.