Zone1 why do some Protestants think that only they are Christians and the Catholics are not?

[hobelim]

The evidence of the Babylonian Talmud confirmed Jesus performed miracles and and made blasphemous claims so he was put to death for sorcery and inciting apostasy.

Jesus was put to death by the Romans for sedition. They didn't give a shit if his enemies accused him of claiming to be God which would have made him just another harmless nutjob who lost his mind. And there were plenty.

If you don't believe me read your own holy book.

 

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Jesus was put to death by the Romans for sedition. They didn't give a shit if his enemies accused him of claiming to be God which would have made him just another harmless nutjob who lost his mind.

If you don't believe me read your own holy book.

Fake news. Jesus was put to death for sorcery and inciting Israel to apostasy. Read the accounts.

 

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Jesus was put to death by the Romans for sedition.

If you don't believe me read your own holy book.

Chapter and verse please?

 

[hobelim]

A total dodge. But what else should we have expected from a subversive who doesn’t want people to know Christianity began immediately after the resurrection of Christ.

There are two resurrections. The first from the death of false "beliefs", the second from death of the body. Every single eyewitness account of seeing Jesus after the crucifixion was an eyewitness account of what was seen and heard in dreams.

Any other claim is delusional. Dead people do not pop into and out of locked rooms to spook their friends. They only way that these accounts could possibly be true is if these things were seen and and heard in dreams.

The disciples seeing and hearing from Jesus in dreams would have convinced them that Jesus survived death and was alive in the ETERNAL realm of God, the reward of the righteous, dreams being the medium through which God communicates to people.

 

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There are two resurrections. The first from the death of false "beliefs", the second from death of the body. Every single eyewitness account of seeing Jesus after the crucifixion was an eyewitness account of what was seen and heard in dreams.

The disciples seeing and hearing from Jesus in dreams would have convinced them that Jesus survived death and was alive in the ETERNAL realm of God, the reward of the righteous, dreams being the medium through which God communicates to people.

Only in your make believe religion where sodomy is celebrated as normal.

 

[hobelim]

The evidence shows the first Christians did worship Jesus as God.

The evidence of the 24,000 written manuscripts explain why the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

The evidence of the Babylonian Talmud confirmed Jesus performed miracles and and made blasphemous claims so he was put to death for sorcery and inciting apostasy.

The evidence is that no early Christian worshipped a trinity or Jesus, a Jewish man, the expected Messiah, as if he was an edible mangod. That did not happen until Rome assimilated and perverted Christianity in 325CE and created the ANTICHRIST, in the image and likeness of Mithras, with all the powerful "miracles the lie" that scripture is to be taken literally. Mithraism was the existing secret Babylonian MYSTERY RELIGION of the Roman Government and military. Before that there was no celibate priesthood standing between "believers" and God.

Thats a fact.

Mithra was born on December 25th. Called "Birthday of the Unconquered Sun", it was incorporated into the church in the 4th century AD as the birthday of Christ. Although Jesus was born in October, Christians today celebrate Mithras' birthday, believing it was Jesus' birthday.

A trinity godhead comprised of Mithra (divine god of truth), Rashnu (divine god of justice, judgement and righteousness), Vohu Manah (divine spirit of enlightenment). These three persons were separate yet they were one.

Before returning to heaven, Mithra was said to have celebrated a Last Supper with followers, who represented the twelve signs of the zodiac. In memory of this, his worshippers partook of a sacramental meal of bread marked with the Mithran cross of light. This was one of the seven Mithraic sacraments, believed to be the models for the Christians' seven sacraments, which follow them identically.


Mithraism was an ascetic, anti-female religion. Its priesthood consisted of celibate men only.

 

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The evidence is that no early Christian worshipped a trinity or Jesus, a Jewish man, the expected Messiah, as if he was an edible mangod. That did not happen until Rome assimilated and perverted Christianity in 325CE and created the ANTICHRIST, in the image and likeness of Mithras, with all the powerful "miracles the lie" that scripture is to be taken literally. Mithraism was the existing secret Babylonian MYSTERY RELIGION of the Roman Government and military. Before that there was no celibate priesthood standing between "believers" and God.

Thats a fact.

Mithra was born on December 25th. Called "Birthday of the Unconquered Sun", it was incorporated into the church in the 4th century AD as the birthday of Christ. Although Jesus was born in October, Christians today celebrate Mithras' birthday, believing it was Jesus' birthday.

A trinity godhead comprised of Mithra (divine god of truth), Rashnu (divine god of justice, judgement and righteousness), Vohu Manah (divine spirit of enlightenment). These three persons were separate yet they were one.

Before returning to heaven, Mithra was said to have celebrated a Last Supper with followers, who represented the twelve signs of the zodiac. In memory of this, his worshippers partook of a sacramental meal of bread marked with the Mithran cross of light. This was one of the seven Mithraic sacraments, believed to be the models for the Christians' seven sacraments, which follow them identically.


Mithraism was an ascetic, anti-female religion. Its priesthood consisted of celibate men only.

Non-Christian historians recorded that the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

 

[hobelim]

Non-Christian historians recorded that the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

The key word being NON CHRISTIANS who knew nothing of the figurative language in the Old and New Testament used by Jewish people for thousands of years to speak above the irrational heads of their enemies.

 

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The key word being NON CHRISTIANS who knew nothing of the figurative language employed in the Old and New Testament used by the Jewish people for thousands of years to communicate above the superstitious heads of their enemies.

The keyword was historians. Your belief that Christianity did not begin until 300 years after the resurrection of Christ is as idiotic and unsupported by evidence as your belief that sodomy is a normal behavior.

 

[hobelim]

Your belief that Christianity did not begin until 300 years after the resurrection of Christ is as idiotic

I never said that.

Again resorting to flat out lies? It never ceases to amaze me how low you will stoop to perpetuate your delusions.

I'm sure that Jesus is very impressed by your "faith".

I am.

 

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I never said that.

Again resorting to flat out lies? It never ceases to amaze me how low you will stoop to perpetuate your delusions.

I'm sure that Jesus is very impressed by your "faith".

I am.

Actually you did in post #66.

 

[hobelim]

Actually you did in post #66.

Go back and read it yourself and see in the first sentence I made it clear that early Christians did not believe what you profess to believe which was initiated by a deliberate perversion of Christianity to reflect the existing secret Babylonian MYSTERY religion of the Roman government and military. You worship and believe in the ANTICHIST, a false substitute counterfeit Jesus with all the powerful miracles of the lie that scripture is to be taken literally.

 

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Go back and read it yourself and see in the first sentence I made it clear that early Christins did not believe what you profess to believe which was initiated by a deliberate perversion of Christianity to reflect the existing secret Babylonian MYSTERY religion of the Roman government and military.

I did. You need to learn how to write more concisely.

 

[hobelim]

I did. You need to learn how to write more concisely.

lol. And some people do not believe in "the death", a curse, for setting aside Divine instruction to commit idolatry.

Imagine that!

Damn crafty those fourth century Romans for using "the power of death" to conquer and subjugate the nations.

 

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lol. And some people do not believe in "the death", a curse, for setting Divine instruction aside to commit idolatry.

Imagine that!

Spoken like a religious nut job.

 

[hobelim]

Spoken like a religious nut job.

Says the guy who falsely accused ME of claiming to be God. What's next? Sorcery? Inciting apostasy?

Some things never change!

On the appointment of presbyters.

When these men have undergone, with blamelessness of conduct, a two year preparation in the fundamentals of the community, they shall be segregated as especially sacred among the formal members of the community. Any knowledge which the expositor of the Law may posses but which may have to remain arcane to the ordinary layman, HE SHALL NOT KEEP HIDDEN FROM THEM; for in their case there need be no fear that it might induce apostasy.

Dead Sea Scrolls, manual of discipline.

 

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Says the guy who falsely accused ME of claiming to be God. What's next? Sorcery? Inciting apostasy?

Some things never change!

On the appointment of presbyters.

When these men have undergone, with blamelessness of conduct, a two year preparation in the fundamentals of the community, they shall be segregated as especially sacred among the formal members of the community. Any knowledge which the expositor of the law may posses but which may have to remain arcane to the ordinary layman, HE SHALL NOT KEEP HIDDEN FROM THEM; for in their case there need be no fear that it might induce apostasy.

Dead Sea Scrolls, manual of discipline.

Tell me again how Leviticus 18:22 isn’t a command against men butt ******* other men?

 

[hadit]

Jesus was put to death by the Romans for sedition. They didn't give a shit if his enemies accused him of claiming to be God which would have made him just another harmless nutjob who lost his mind. And there were plenty.

If you don't believe me read your own holy book.

You read the book. You'll find that "The Romans" didn't want to execute Jesus. Pontius Pilot, in fact, bent over backwards trying to find a way to free Him because he found no fault in Him. They only executed Him at the demand of the people.

 

[hobelim]

Tell me again how Leviticus 18:22 isn’t a command against men butt ******* other men?

Damn.

You sure do have some unresolved latent homosexual fantasies. When all else fails talk about butt *******?

I am truly impressed by the many wonderful things that your unshakable faith in the absurd has done for you.

It seems that you are suffering from Homosexual Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (HOCD) which is marked by excessive fear of becoming or being homosexual.

 

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Damn.

You sure do have some unresolved latent homosexual fantasies. When all else fails talk about butt *******?

I am truly impressed by the many wonderful things that your unshakable faith in the absurd has done for you.

It seems that you are suffering from Homosexual Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (HOCD) marked by excessive fear of becoming or being homosexual.

No. I use it as an example for just how ridiculous your bastardization of the Bible is.

Your made up religion based upon the Bible is amusing.