Why do people refuse to do the research?

I don’t think so. Most adults need 8-10 grams per day and if ill, you need a lot more. I don’t think you can get that much from any diet.

No responsible source recommends anywhere near that amount.

United States vitamin C recommendations

  • 60 mg/day: Health Canada 2007
  • 60–95 milligrams per day: United States' National Academy of Sciences.
  • 500 milligrams per 12 hours: Professor Roc Ordman, from research into biological free radicals.
  • 3,000 milligrams per day ''(or up to 30,000 mg during illness)'': the Vitamin C Foundation.
  • 6,000–12,000 milligrams per day: Thomas E. Levy, Colorado Integrative Medical Centre.
  • 6,000–18,000 milligrams per day: Linus Pauling's personal use.
Vitamin C Daily Requirements


Wow. IN your own post no less.

:21:


You DO know how many milligrams are in a gram, right?

Yes, and as I said, no RESPONSIBLE source recommends anywhere near that amount.
Good God man! Pauling is not a RESPONSIBLE source...he won two Nobel prizes, wrote many best selling books, and is considered one of the greats.

Please leave the thread now or be banned.
 
I don’t think so. Most adults need 8-10 grams per day and if ill, you need a lot more. I don’t think you can get that much from any diet.

No responsible source recommends anywhere near that amount.

United States vitamin C recommendations

  • 60 mg/day: Health Canada 2007
  • 60–95 milligrams per day: United States' National Academy of Sciences.
  • 500 milligrams per 12 hours: Professor Roc Ordman, from research into biological free radicals.
  • 3,000 milligrams per day ''(or up to 30,000 mg during illness)'': the Vitamin C Foundation.
  • 6,000–12,000 milligrams per day: Thomas E. Levy, Colorado Integrative Medical Centre.
  • 6,000–18,000 milligrams per day: Linus Pauling's personal use.
Vitamin C Daily Requirements


Wow. IN your own post no less.

:21:

You DO know how many milligrams are in a gram, right?

Yes, and as I said, no RESPONSIBLE source recommends anywhere near that amount.
Good God man! Pauling is not a RESPONSIBLE source...he won two Nobel prizes, wrote many best selling books, and is considered one of the greats.

Please leave the thread now or be banned.

Your fear of the facts being posted are duly noted. Please grow up.

He had books to sell and his "findings" have been debunked.

Pauling's work on vitamin C in his later years generated much controversy. He was first introduced to the concept of high-dose vitamin C by biochemist Irwin Stone in 1966. After becoming convinced of its worth, Pauling took 3 grams of vitamin C every day to prevent colds.[4] Excited by his own perceived results, he researched the clinical literature and published Vitamin C and the Common Cold in 1970. He began a long clinical collaboration with the British cancer surgeon Ewan Cameron in 1971 on the use of intravenous and oral vitamin C as cancer therapy for terminal patients.[150] Cameron and Pauling wrote many technical papers and a popular book, Cancer and Vitamin C, that discussed their observations. Pauling made vitamin C popular with the public[151] and eventually published two studies of a group of 100 allegedly terminal patients that claimed vitamin C increased survival by as much as four times compared to untreated patients.[152][153]

A re-evaluation of the claims in 1982 found that the patient groups were not actually comparable, with the vitamin C group being less sick on entry to the study, and judged to be "terminal" much earlier than the comparison group.[154] Later clinical trials conducted by the Mayo Clinic also concluded that high-dose (10,000 mg) vitamin C was no better than placebo at treating cancer and that there was no benefit to high-dose vitamin C.[155][156][157] The failure of the clinical trials to demonstrate any benefit resulted in the conclusion that vitamin C was not effective in treating cancer; the medical establishment concluded that his claims that vitamin C could prevent colds or treat cancer were quackery.

Linus Pauling - Wikipedia
 
I don’t think so. Most adults need 8-10 grams per day and if ill, you need a lot more. I don’t think you can get that much from any diet.

No responsible source recommends anywhere near that amount.

United States vitamin C recommendations

  • 60 mg/day: Health Canada 2007
  • 60–95 milligrams per day: United States' National Academy of Sciences.
  • 500 milligrams per 12 hours: Professor Roc Ordman, from research into biological free radicals.
  • 3,000 milligrams per day ''(or up to 30,000 mg during illness)'': the Vitamin C Foundation.
  • 6,000–12,000 milligrams per day: Thomas E. Levy, Colorado Integrative Medical Centre.
  • 6,000–18,000 milligrams per day: Linus Pauling's personal use.
Vitamin C Daily Requirements


Wow. IN your own post no less.

:21:

You DO know how many milligrams are in a gram, right?

Yes, and as I said, no RESPONSIBLE source recommends anywhere near that amount.
Good God man! Pauling is not a RESPONSIBLE source...he won two Nobel prizes, wrote many best selling books, and is considered one of the greats.

Please leave the thread now or be banned.

Your fear of the facts being posted are duly noted. Please grow up.

He had books to sell and his "findings" have been debunked.

Pauling's work on vitamin C in his later years generated much controversy. He was first introduced to the concept of high-dose vitamin C by biochemist Irwin Stone in 1966. After becoming convinced of its worth, Pauling took 3 grams of vitamin C every day to prevent colds.[4] Excited by his own perceived results, he researched the clinical literature and published Vitamin C and the Common Cold in 1970. He began a long clinical collaboration with the British cancer surgeon Ewan Cameron in 1971 on the use of intravenous and oral vitamin C as cancer therapy for terminal patients.[150] Cameron and Pauling wrote many technical papers and a popular book, Cancer and Vitamin C, that discussed their observations. Pauling made vitamin C popular with the public[151] and eventually published two studies of a group of 100 allegedly terminal patients that claimed vitamin C increased survival by as much as four times compared to untreated patients.[152][153]

A re-evaluation of the claims in 1982 found that the patient groups were not actually comparable, with the vitamin C group being less sick on entry to the study, and judged to be "terminal" much earlier than the comparison group.[154] Later clinical trials conducted by the Mayo Clinic also concluded that high-dose (10,000 mg) vitamin C was no better than placebo at treating cancer and that there was no benefit to high-dose vitamin C.[155][156][157] The failure of the clinical trials to demonstrate any benefit resulted in the conclusion that vitamin C was not effective in treating cancer; the medical establishment concluded that his claims that vitamin C could prevent colds or treat cancer were quackery.

Linus Pauling - Wikipedia
You just keep digging a hole.

Can you tell me how many grams are in 10,000mg?
 
I don’t think so. Most adults need 8-10 grams per day and if ill, you need a lot more. I don’t think you can get that much from any diet.

No responsible source recommends anywhere near that amount.

United States vitamin C recommendations

  • 60 mg/day: Health Canada 2007
  • 60–95 milligrams per day: United States' National Academy of Sciences.
  • 500 milligrams per 12 hours: Professor Roc Ordman, from research into biological free radicals.
  • 3,000 milligrams per day ''(or up to 30,000 mg during illness)'': the Vitamin C Foundation.
  • 6,000–12,000 milligrams per day: Thomas E. Levy, Colorado Integrative Medical Centre.
  • 6,000–18,000 milligrams per day: Linus Pauling's personal use.
Vitamin C Daily Requirements


Wow. IN your own post no less.

:21:

You DO know how many milligrams are in a gram, right?

Yes, and as I said, no RESPONSIBLE source recommends anywhere near that amount.
Good God man! Pauling is not a RESPONSIBLE source...he won two Nobel prizes, wrote many best selling books, and is considered one of the greats.

Please leave the thread now or be banned.

Your fear of the facts being posted are duly noted. Please grow up.

He had books to sell and his "findings" have been debunked.

Pauling's work on vitamin C in his later years generated much controversy. He was first introduced to the concept of high-dose vitamin C by biochemist Irwin Stone in 1966. After becoming convinced of its worth, Pauling took 3 grams of vitamin C every day to prevent colds.[4] Excited by his own perceived results, he researched the clinical literature and published Vitamin C and the Common Cold in 1970. He began a long clinical collaboration with the British cancer surgeon Ewan Cameron in 1971 on the use of intravenous and oral vitamin C as cancer therapy for terminal patients.[150] Cameron and Pauling wrote many technical papers and a popular book, Cancer and Vitamin C, that discussed their observations. Pauling made vitamin C popular with the public[151] and eventually published two studies of a group of 100 allegedly terminal patients that claimed vitamin C increased survival by as much as four times compared to untreated patients.[152][153]

A re-evaluation of the claims in 1982 found that the patient groups were not actually comparable, with the vitamin C group being less sick on entry to the study, and judged to be "terminal" much earlier than the comparison group.[154] Later clinical trials conducted by the Mayo Clinic also concluded that high-dose (10,000 mg) vitamin C was no better than placebo at treating cancer and that there was no benefit to high-dose vitamin C.[155][156][157] The failure of the clinical trials to demonstrate any benefit resulted in the conclusion that vitamin C was not effective in treating cancer; the medical establishment concluded that his claims that vitamin C could prevent colds or treat cancer were quackery.

Linus Pauling - Wikipedia
Why would you post a wikiquote out of context? How about the rest of that quote?

"Pauling denounced the conclusions of these studies and handling of the final study as "fraud and deliberate misrepresentation",[159][160] and criticized the studies for using oral, rather than intravenous vitamin C[161] (which was the dosing method used for the first ten days of Pauling's original study[158]). Pauling also criticised the Mayo clinic studies because the controls were taking vitamin C during the trial, and because the duration of the treatment with vitamin C was short; Pauling advocated continued high-dose vitamin C for the rest of the cancer patient's life whereas the Mayo clinic patients in the second trial were treated with vitamin C for a median of 2.5 months.[162] The results were publicly debated at length with considerable acrimony between Pauling and Cameron, and Moertel (the lead author of the Mayo Clinic studies), with accusations of misconduct and scientific incompetence on both sides."
 
No responsible source recommends anywhere near that amount.

United States vitamin C recommendations

  • 60 mg/day: Health Canada 2007
  • 60–95 milligrams per day: United States' National Academy of Sciences.
  • 500 milligrams per 12 hours: Professor Roc Ordman, from research into biological free radicals.
  • 3,000 milligrams per day ''(or up to 30,000 mg during illness)'': the Vitamin C Foundation.
  • 6,000–12,000 milligrams per day: Thomas E. Levy, Colorado Integrative Medical Centre.
  • 6,000–18,000 milligrams per day: Linus Pauling's personal use.
Vitamin C Daily Requirements


Wow. IN your own post no less.

:21:

You DO know how many milligrams are in a gram, right?

Yes, and as I said, no RESPONSIBLE source recommends anywhere near that amount.
Good God man! Pauling is not a RESPONSIBLE source...he won two Nobel prizes, wrote many best selling books, and is considered one of the greats.

Please leave the thread now or be banned.

Your fear of the facts being posted are duly noted. Please grow up.

He had books to sell and his "findings" have been debunked.

Pauling's work on vitamin C in his later years generated much controversy. He was first introduced to the concept of high-dose vitamin C by biochemist Irwin Stone in 1966. After becoming convinced of its worth, Pauling took 3 grams of vitamin C every day to prevent colds.[4] Excited by his own perceived results, he researched the clinical literature and published Vitamin C and the Common Cold in 1970. He began a long clinical collaboration with the British cancer surgeon Ewan Cameron in 1971 on the use of intravenous and oral vitamin C as cancer therapy for terminal patients.[150] Cameron and Pauling wrote many technical papers and a popular book, Cancer and Vitamin C, that discussed their observations. Pauling made vitamin C popular with the public[151] and eventually published two studies of a group of 100 allegedly terminal patients that claimed vitamin C increased survival by as much as four times compared to untreated patients.[152][153]

A re-evaluation of the claims in 1982 found that the patient groups were not actually comparable, with the vitamin C group being less sick on entry to the study, and judged to be "terminal" much earlier than the comparison group.[154] Later clinical trials conducted by the Mayo Clinic also concluded that high-dose (10,000 mg) vitamin C was no better than placebo at treating cancer and that there was no benefit to high-dose vitamin C.[155][156][157] The failure of the clinical trials to demonstrate any benefit resulted in the conclusion that vitamin C was not effective in treating cancer; the medical establishment concluded that his claims that vitamin C could prevent colds or treat cancer were quackery.

Linus Pauling - Wikipedia
Why would you post a wikiquote out of context? How about the rest of that quote?

"Pauling denounced the conclusions of these studies and handling of the final study as "fraud and deliberate misrepresentation",[159][160] and criticized the studies for using oral, rather than intravenous vitamin C[161] (which was the dosing method used for the first ten days of Pauling's original study[158]). Pauling also criticised the Mayo clinic studies because the controls were taking vitamin C during the trial, and because the duration of the treatment with vitamin C was short; Pauling advocated continued high-dose vitamin C for the rest of the cancer patient's life whereas the Mayo clinic patients in the second trial were treated with vitamin C for a median of 2.5 months.[162] The results were publicly debated at length with considerable acrimony between Pauling and Cameron, and Moertel (the lead author of the Mayo Clinic studies), with accusations of misconduct and scientific incompetence on both sides."

WOW, Pauling denounced actual medical studies that debunked his limited study. It must have really slashed book sales!
 
I really couldn't say Mr Beale

but whadda i know anyways

any reviews on vitamin J appreciated!

>>
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~S~
 
Wow. IN your own post no less.

:21:

You DO know how many milligrams are in a gram, right?

Yes, and as I said, no RESPONSIBLE source recommends anywhere near that amount.
Good God man! Pauling is not a RESPONSIBLE source...he won two Nobel prizes, wrote many best selling books, and is considered one of the greats.

Please leave the thread now or be banned.

Your fear of the facts being posted are duly noted. Please grow up.

He had books to sell and his "findings" have been debunked.

Pauling's work on vitamin C in his later years generated much controversy. He was first introduced to the concept of high-dose vitamin C by biochemist Irwin Stone in 1966. After becoming convinced of its worth, Pauling took 3 grams of vitamin C every day to prevent colds.[4] Excited by his own perceived results, he researched the clinical literature and published Vitamin C and the Common Cold in 1970. He began a long clinical collaboration with the British cancer surgeon Ewan Cameron in 1971 on the use of intravenous and oral vitamin C as cancer therapy for terminal patients.[150] Cameron and Pauling wrote many technical papers and a popular book, Cancer and Vitamin C, that discussed their observations. Pauling made vitamin C popular with the public[151] and eventually published two studies of a group of 100 allegedly terminal patients that claimed vitamin C increased survival by as much as four times compared to untreated patients.[152][153]

A re-evaluation of the claims in 1982 found that the patient groups were not actually comparable, with the vitamin C group being less sick on entry to the study, and judged to be "terminal" much earlier than the comparison group.[154] Later clinical trials conducted by the Mayo Clinic also concluded that high-dose (10,000 mg) vitamin C was no better than placebo at treating cancer and that there was no benefit to high-dose vitamin C.[155][156][157] The failure of the clinical trials to demonstrate any benefit resulted in the conclusion that vitamin C was not effective in treating cancer; the medical establishment concluded that his claims that vitamin C could prevent colds or treat cancer were quackery.

Linus Pauling - Wikipedia
Why would you post a wikiquote out of context? How about the rest of that quote?

"Pauling denounced the conclusions of these studies and handling of the final study as "fraud and deliberate misrepresentation",[159][160] and criticized the studies for using oral, rather than intravenous vitamin C[161] (which was the dosing method used for the first ten days of Pauling's original study[158]). Pauling also criticised the Mayo clinic studies because the controls were taking vitamin C during the trial, and because the duration of the treatment with vitamin C was short; Pauling advocated continued high-dose vitamin C for the rest of the cancer patient's life whereas the Mayo clinic patients in the second trial were treated with vitamin C for a median of 2.5 months.[162] The results were publicly debated at length with considerable acrimony between Pauling and Cameron, and Moertel (the lead author of the Mayo Clinic studies), with accusations of misconduct and scientific incompetence on both sides."

WOW, Pauling denounced actual medical studies that debunked his limited study. It must have really slashed book sales!
I think we can all agreed, excepting for a few miscreants and lazy f**ks^^^, that depending on establishment medicine to keep one healthy is a big mistake. As the great Dr Saul has said for years and named his wonderful website same..."DOCTOR YOURSELF....If you want something done right you have to do it yourself. This especially includes your health care."

As such it is incumbent on all of us to do the research ourselves. There is an enormous amount of information readily available to us all.

Dr Saul likes to say no one has died from an overdose of vitamins.

No Deaths from Vitamins. None.
Safety Confirmed by America's Largest Database

by Andrew W. Saul, Editor
(OMNS, Jan 3, 2017) There were no deaths whatsoever from vitamins in the year 2015. The 33rd annual report from the American Association of Poison Control Centers shows zero deaths from multiple vitamins. And, there were no deaths whatsoever from vitamin A, niacin, pyridoxine (B-6) any other B-vitamin. There were no deaths from vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin E, or from any vitamin at all.

Zero deaths from vitamins. Want to bet this will never be on the evening news? Well, have you seen it there? And why not?

After all, over half of the U.S. population takes daily nutritional supplements. If each of those people took only one single tablet daily, that makes some 170,000,000 individual doses per day, for a total of well over 60 billion doses annually. Since many persons take far more than just one single vitamin tablet, actual consumption is considerably higher, and the safety of vitamin supplements is all the more remarkable.

It was claimed that one person died from vitamin supplements in the year 2015, according to AAPCC's interpretation of information collected by the U.S. National Poison Data System. That single alleged "death" was supposedly due to "Other B-Vitamins." This was claimed back in 2012 as well, with no substantiation then, either. Indeed, the AAPCC report specifically indicates no deaths from niacin (B-3) or pyridoxine (B-6). That therefore leaves folic acid, thiamine (B-1), riboflavin (B-2), biotin, pantothenic acid, and cobalamin (B-12) as the remaining B-vitamins that could be implicated. However, the safety record of these vitamins is extraordinarily good; no fatalities have ever been confirmed for any of them.

Abram Hoffer, MD, PhD, repeatedly said: "No one dies from vitamins." He was right when he said it and he is still right today. The Orthomolecular Medicine News Service invites submission of specific scientific evidence conclusively demonstrating death caused by a vitamin.

Where are the bodies? There aren't any. DoctorYourself.com: Andrew Saul's Natural Health Website
 
Great site Gip, methinks i found a cure for this d*mn toe corn....and OD'n on vitamins has got to be a sisyphean feat , if at all possible , probably secondary effects would be more evident.

Which brings me to these gems now popular>

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I've taken them out of sheer peer pressure ,and boy did they work! :banana: In fact they worked so well i'm surprised they don't have a dedicated wing over @ the Betty Ford clinic...

~S~
 
You just exposed yourself as a fool. 6,000-12,000 milligrams EQUALS 6-12 GRAMS.

I mentioned Dr Pauling and Levy earlier in the thread. You should read their works.

Which, other than three outliers with books to sell, no one recommends, not even CLOSE. Go ahead, pee out more vitamin C than your glass of orange juice contains.
Just admit you don't know anything about this topic and leave the thread.




Have you noticed how often you’ve been reduced to whining like that? Are you really interested in a discussion?
 
...there are lists for most healthy country, but they seem to rate differently
..obviously Switzerland and Iceland are tiny with tiny populations--so we can just surmise the many variables for those countries...

...again--we see Japan and Germany up there--countries very far apart--one an island, the other not
both have ''different'' foods as their main items--with Germany having more of meat items
..Germany average height bigger than Japan
..both have higher populations than than Iceland/etc
..they are both known for a culture of discipline
..Japan ranking much higher in health
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2017 healthiest country index
The World’s Healthiest Countries 2017 - IgeaHub
Healthies-country-index-v5-1.jpg

Healthies-country-index-v5-1.jpg
 
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allow me to add, I haven't been to a doctor for years
knock on wood
weight is a big problem--for the heart/organs/knees
stress also a big problem--of course
my coworker, who is much younger than I, would go to the doctors ''alot''
he smoked/drank/stress [ blew his top ]
he was not overweight at all
..he had headaches....he did go to the VA for being in the burning oil fields of Iraq--but they told him that wasn't a factor
 
...there are lists for most healthy country, but they seem to rate differently
..obviously Switzerland and Iceland are tiny with tiny populations--so we can just surmise the many variables for those countries...

...again--we see Japan and Germany up there--countries very far apart--one an island, the other not
both have ''different'' foods as their main items--with Germany having more of meat items
..Germany average height bigger than Japan
..both have higher populations than than Iceland/etc
..they are both known for a culture of discipline
..Japan ranking much higher in health
index%202.png

2017 healthiest country index
The World’s Healthiest Countries 2017 - IgeaHub
Healthies-country-index-v5-1.jpg

Healthies-country-index-v5-1.jpg

Your point being?
 
Yes, and as I said, no RESPONSIBLE source recommends anywhere near that amount.
Good God man! Pauling is not a RESPONSIBLE source...he won two Nobel prizes, wrote many best selling books, and is considered one of the greats.

Please leave the thread now or be banned.

Your fear of the facts being posted are duly noted. Please grow up.

He had books to sell and his "findings" have been debunked.

Pauling's work on vitamin C in his later years generated much controversy. He was first introduced to the concept of high-dose vitamin C by biochemist Irwin Stone in 1966. After becoming convinced of its worth, Pauling took 3 grams of vitamin C every day to prevent colds.[4] Excited by his own perceived results, he researched the clinical literature and published Vitamin C and the Common Cold in 1970. He began a long clinical collaboration with the British cancer surgeon Ewan Cameron in 1971 on the use of intravenous and oral vitamin C as cancer therapy for terminal patients.[150] Cameron and Pauling wrote many technical papers and a popular book, Cancer and Vitamin C, that discussed their observations. Pauling made vitamin C popular with the public[151] and eventually published two studies of a group of 100 allegedly terminal patients that claimed vitamin C increased survival by as much as four times compared to untreated patients.[152][153]

A re-evaluation of the claims in 1982 found that the patient groups were not actually comparable, with the vitamin C group being less sick on entry to the study, and judged to be "terminal" much earlier than the comparison group.[154] Later clinical trials conducted by the Mayo Clinic also concluded that high-dose (10,000 mg) vitamin C was no better than placebo at treating cancer and that there was no benefit to high-dose vitamin C.[155][156][157] The failure of the clinical trials to demonstrate any benefit resulted in the conclusion that vitamin C was not effective in treating cancer; the medical establishment concluded that his claims that vitamin C could prevent colds or treat cancer were quackery.

Linus Pauling - Wikipedia
Why would you post a wikiquote out of context? How about the rest of that quote?

"Pauling denounced the conclusions of these studies and handling of the final study as "fraud and deliberate misrepresentation",[159][160] and criticized the studies for using oral, rather than intravenous vitamin C[161] (which was the dosing method used for the first ten days of Pauling's original study[158]). Pauling also criticised the Mayo clinic studies because the controls were taking vitamin C during the trial, and because the duration of the treatment with vitamin C was short; Pauling advocated continued high-dose vitamin C for the rest of the cancer patient's life whereas the Mayo clinic patients in the second trial were treated with vitamin C for a median of 2.5 months.[162] The results were publicly debated at length with considerable acrimony between Pauling and Cameron, and Moertel (the lead author of the Mayo Clinic studies), with accusations of misconduct and scientific incompetence on both sides."

WOW, Pauling denounced actual medical studies that debunked his limited study. It must have really slashed book sales!
I think we can all agreed, excepting for a few miscreants and lazy f**ks^^^, that depending on establishment medicine to keep one healthy is a big mistake. As the great Dr Saul has said for years and named his wonderful website same..."DOCTOR YOURSELF....If you want something done right you have to do it yourself. This especially includes your health care."

As such it is incumbent on all of us to do the research ourselves. There is an enormous amount of information readily available to us all.

Dr Saul likes to say no one has died from an overdose of vitamins.

No Deaths from Vitamins. None.
Safety Confirmed by America's Largest Database

by Andrew W. Saul, Editor
(OMNS, Jan 3, 2017) There were no deaths whatsoever from vitamins in the year 2015. The 33rd annual report from the American Association of Poison Control Centers shows zero deaths from multiple vitamins. And, there were no deaths whatsoever from vitamin A, niacin, pyridoxine (B-6) any other B-vitamin. There were no deaths from vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin E, or from any vitamin at all.

Zero deaths from vitamins. Want to bet this will never be on the evening news? Well, have you seen it there? And why not?

After all, over half of the U.S. population takes daily nutritional supplements. If each of those people took only one single tablet daily, that makes some 170,000,000 individual doses per day, for a total of well over 60 billion doses annually. Since many persons take far more than just one single vitamin tablet, actual consumption is considerably higher, and the safety of vitamin supplements is all the more remarkable.

It was claimed that one person died from vitamin supplements in the year 2015, according to AAPCC's interpretation of information collected by the U.S. National Poison Data System. That single alleged "death" was supposedly due to "Other B-Vitamins." This was claimed back in 2012 as well, with no substantiation then, either. Indeed, the AAPCC report specifically indicates no deaths from niacin (B-3) or pyridoxine (B-6). That therefore leaves folic acid, thiamine (B-1), riboflavin (B-2), biotin, pantothenic acid, and cobalamin (B-12) as the remaining B-vitamins that could be implicated. However, the safety record of these vitamins is extraordinarily good; no fatalities have ever been confirmed for any of them.

Abram Hoffer, MD, PhD, repeatedly said: "No one dies from vitamins." He was right when he said it and he is still right today. The Orthomolecular Medicine News Service invites submission of specific scientific evidence conclusively demonstrating death caused by a vitamin.

Where are the bodies? There aren't any. DoctorYourself.com: Andrew Saul's Natural Health Website

That's the best you've got? NOBODY DIED? So OD on all vitamins. GOT IT! :D

Getting Too Much of Vitamins And Minerals
The health consequences of going overboard.

By Cari Nierenberg

Nowadays, everything from bottled water to orange juice seems to have souped-up levels of vitamins and minerals in it. That may sound like a way to help cover your nutritional bases, especially if your diet is less than stellar. But routinely getting an overload of vitamins and minerals can hurt you.

Too much vitamin C or zinc could cause nausea, diarrhea, and stomach cramps. Too much selenium could lead to hair loss, gastrointestinal upset, fatigue, and mild nerve damage.

While most people aren't getting megadoses, if you eat a fortified cereal at breakfast, grab an energy bar between meals, have enriched pasta for dinner, and take a daily supplement, you could easily be over the recommended daily intake of a host of nutrients.

Taking Too Many Vitamins? Side Effects of Vitamin Overdosing

###

Is it possible to take too much vitamin C?
Answers from Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.

While vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is an essential nutrient, it's possible to have too much of it.

Vitamin C is a water-soluble vitamin that supports normal growth and development and helps your body absorb iron. Because your body doesn't produce or store vitamin C, it's important to include vitamin C in your diet. For most people, an orange or a cup of strawberries, chopped red pepper, or broccoli provides enough vitamin C for the day.


For adults, the recommended daily amount for vitamin C is 65 to 90 milligrams (mg) a day, and the upper limit is 2,000 mg a day. Although too much dietary vitamin C is unlikely to be harmful, megadoses of vitamin C supplements might cause:
  • Diarrhea
  • Nausea
  • Vomiting
  • Heartburn
  • Abdominal cramps
  • Headache
  • Insomnia
Remember, for most people, a healthy diet provides an adequate amount of vitamin C.
 
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Good God man! Pauling is not a RESPONSIBLE source...he won two Nobel prizes, wrote many best selling books, and is considered one of the greats.

Please leave the thread now or be banned.

Your fear of the facts being posted are duly noted. Please grow up.

He had books to sell and his "findings" have been debunked.

Pauling's work on vitamin C in his later years generated much controversy. He was first introduced to the concept of high-dose vitamin C by biochemist Irwin Stone in 1966. After becoming convinced of its worth, Pauling took 3 grams of vitamin C every day to prevent colds.[4] Excited by his own perceived results, he researched the clinical literature and published Vitamin C and the Common Cold in 1970. He began a long clinical collaboration with the British cancer surgeon Ewan Cameron in 1971 on the use of intravenous and oral vitamin C as cancer therapy for terminal patients.[150] Cameron and Pauling wrote many technical papers and a popular book, Cancer and Vitamin C, that discussed their observations. Pauling made vitamin C popular with the public[151] and eventually published two studies of a group of 100 allegedly terminal patients that claimed vitamin C increased survival by as much as four times compared to untreated patients.[152][153]

A re-evaluation of the claims in 1982 found that the patient groups were not actually comparable, with the vitamin C group being less sick on entry to the study, and judged to be "terminal" much earlier than the comparison group.[154] Later clinical trials conducted by the Mayo Clinic also concluded that high-dose (10,000 mg) vitamin C was no better than placebo at treating cancer and that there was no benefit to high-dose vitamin C.[155][156][157] The failure of the clinical trials to demonstrate any benefit resulted in the conclusion that vitamin C was not effective in treating cancer; the medical establishment concluded that his claims that vitamin C could prevent colds or treat cancer were quackery.

Linus Pauling - Wikipedia
Why would you post a wikiquote out of context? How about the rest of that quote?

"Pauling denounced the conclusions of these studies and handling of the final study as "fraud and deliberate misrepresentation",[159][160] and criticized the studies for using oral, rather than intravenous vitamin C[161] (which was the dosing method used for the first ten days of Pauling's original study[158]). Pauling also criticised the Mayo clinic studies because the controls were taking vitamin C during the trial, and because the duration of the treatment with vitamin C was short; Pauling advocated continued high-dose vitamin C for the rest of the cancer patient's life whereas the Mayo clinic patients in the second trial were treated with vitamin C for a median of 2.5 months.[162] The results were publicly debated at length with considerable acrimony between Pauling and Cameron, and Moertel (the lead author of the Mayo Clinic studies), with accusations of misconduct and scientific incompetence on both sides."

WOW, Pauling denounced actual medical studies that debunked his limited study. It must have really slashed book sales!
I think we can all agreed, excepting for a few miscreants and lazy f**ks^^^, that depending on establishment medicine to keep one healthy is a big mistake. As the great Dr Saul has said for years and named his wonderful website same..."DOCTOR YOURSELF....If you want something done right you have to do it yourself. This especially includes your health care."

As such it is incumbent on all of us to do the research ourselves. There is an enormous amount of information readily available to us all.

Dr Saul likes to say no one has died from an overdose of vitamins.

No Deaths from Vitamins. None.
Safety Confirmed by America's Largest Database

by Andrew W. Saul, Editor
(OMNS, Jan 3, 2017) There were no deaths whatsoever from vitamins in the year 2015. The 33rd annual report from the American Association of Poison Control Centers shows zero deaths from multiple vitamins. And, there were no deaths whatsoever from vitamin A, niacin, pyridoxine (B-6) any other B-vitamin. There were no deaths from vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin E, or from any vitamin at all.

Zero deaths from vitamins. Want to bet this will never be on the evening news? Well, have you seen it there? And why not?

After all, over half of the U.S. population takes daily nutritional supplements. If each of those people took only one single tablet daily, that makes some 170,000,000 individual doses per day, for a total of well over 60 billion doses annually. Since many persons take far more than just one single vitamin tablet, actual consumption is considerably higher, and the safety of vitamin supplements is all the more remarkable.

It was claimed that one person died from vitamin supplements in the year 2015, according to AAPCC's interpretation of information collected by the U.S. National Poison Data System. That single alleged "death" was supposedly due to "Other B-Vitamins." This was claimed back in 2012 as well, with no substantiation then, either. Indeed, the AAPCC report specifically indicates no deaths from niacin (B-3) or pyridoxine (B-6). That therefore leaves folic acid, thiamine (B-1), riboflavin (B-2), biotin, pantothenic acid, and cobalamin (B-12) as the remaining B-vitamins that could be implicated. However, the safety record of these vitamins is extraordinarily good; no fatalities have ever been confirmed for any of them.

Abram Hoffer, MD, PhD, repeatedly said: "No one dies from vitamins." He was right when he said it and he is still right today. The Orthomolecular Medicine News Service invites submission of specific scientific evidence conclusively demonstrating death caused by a vitamin.

Where are the bodies? There aren't any. DoctorYourself.com: Andrew Saul's Natural Health Website

That's the best you've got? NOBODY DIED? So OD on all vitamins. GOT IT! :D

Getting Too Much of Vitamins And Minerals
The health consequences of going overboard.

By Cari Nierenberg

Nowadays, everything from bottled water to orange juice seems to have souped-up levels of vitamins and minerals in it. That may sound like a way to help cover your nutritional bases, especially if your diet is less than stellar. But routinely getting an overload of vitamins and minerals can hurt you.

Too much vitamin C or zinc could cause nausea, diarrhea, and stomach cramps. Too much selenium could lead to hair loss, gastrointestinal upset, fatigue, and mild nerve damage.

While most people aren't getting megadoses, if you eat a fortified cereal at breakfast, grab an energy bar between meals, have enriched pasta for dinner, and take a daily supplement, you could easily be over the recommended daily intake of a host of nutrients.

Taking Too Many Vitamins? Side Effects of Vitamin Overdosing

###

Is it possible to take too much vitamin C?
Answers from Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.

While vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is an essential nutrient, it's possible to have too much of it.

Vitamin C is a water-soluble vitamin that supports normal growth and development and helps your body absorb iron. Because your body doesn't produce or store vitamin C, it's important to include vitamin C in your diet. For most people, an orange or a cup of strawberries, chopped red pepper, or broccoli provides enough vitamin C for the day.


For adults, the recommended daily amount for vitamin C is 65 to 90 milligrams (mg) a day, and the upper limit is 2,000 mg a day. Although too much dietary vitamin C is unlikely to be harmful, megadoses of vitamin C supplements might cause:
  • Diarrhea
  • Nausea
  • Vomiting
  • Heartburn
  • Abdominal cramps
  • Headache
  • Insomnia
Remember, for most people, a healthy diet provides an adequate amount of vitamin C.
Question smarty pants...how many people OD on Big Pharma’s drugs?
 
Good God man! Pauling is not a RESPONSIBLE source...he won two Nobel prizes, wrote many best selling books, and is considered one of the greats.

Please leave the thread now or be banned.

Your fear of the facts being posted are duly noted. Please grow up.

He had books to sell and his "findings" have been debunked.

Pauling's work on vitamin C in his later years generated much controversy. He was first introduced to the concept of high-dose vitamin C by biochemist Irwin Stone in 1966. After becoming convinced of its worth, Pauling took 3 grams of vitamin C every day to prevent colds.[4] Excited by his own perceived results, he researched the clinical literature and published Vitamin C and the Common Cold in 1970. He began a long clinical collaboration with the British cancer surgeon Ewan Cameron in 1971 on the use of intravenous and oral vitamin C as cancer therapy for terminal patients.[150] Cameron and Pauling wrote many technical papers and a popular book, Cancer and Vitamin C, that discussed their observations. Pauling made vitamin C popular with the public[151] and eventually published two studies of a group of 100 allegedly terminal patients that claimed vitamin C increased survival by as much as four times compared to untreated patients.[152][153]

A re-evaluation of the claims in 1982 found that the patient groups were not actually comparable, with the vitamin C group being less sick on entry to the study, and judged to be "terminal" much earlier than the comparison group.[154] Later clinical trials conducted by the Mayo Clinic also concluded that high-dose (10,000 mg) vitamin C was no better than placebo at treating cancer and that there was no benefit to high-dose vitamin C.[155][156][157] The failure of the clinical trials to demonstrate any benefit resulted in the conclusion that vitamin C was not effective in treating cancer; the medical establishment concluded that his claims that vitamin C could prevent colds or treat cancer were quackery.

Linus Pauling - Wikipedia
Why would you post a wikiquote out of context? How about the rest of that quote?

"Pauling denounced the conclusions of these studies and handling of the final study as "fraud and deliberate misrepresentation",[159][160] and criticized the studies for using oral, rather than intravenous vitamin C[161] (which was the dosing method used for the first ten days of Pauling's original study[158]). Pauling also criticised the Mayo clinic studies because the controls were taking vitamin C during the trial, and because the duration of the treatment with vitamin C was short; Pauling advocated continued high-dose vitamin C for the rest of the cancer patient's life whereas the Mayo clinic patients in the second trial were treated with vitamin C for a median of 2.5 months.[162] The results were publicly debated at length with considerable acrimony between Pauling and Cameron, and Moertel (the lead author of the Mayo Clinic studies), with accusations of misconduct and scientific incompetence on both sides."

WOW, Pauling denounced actual medical studies that debunked his limited study. It must have really slashed book sales!
I think we can all agreed, excepting for a few miscreants and lazy f**ks^^^, that depending on establishment medicine to keep one healthy is a big mistake. As the great Dr Saul has said for years and named his wonderful website same..."DOCTOR YOURSELF....If you want something done right you have to do it yourself. This especially includes your health care."

As such it is incumbent on all of us to do the research ourselves. There is an enormous amount of information readily available to us all.

Dr Saul likes to say no one has died from an overdose of vitamins.

No Deaths from Vitamins. None.
Safety Confirmed by America's Largest Database

by Andrew W. Saul, Editor
(OMNS, Jan 3, 2017) There were no deaths whatsoever from vitamins in the year 2015. The 33rd annual report from the American Association of Poison Control Centers shows zero deaths from multiple vitamins. And, there were no deaths whatsoever from vitamin A, niacin, pyridoxine (B-6) any other B-vitamin. There were no deaths from vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin E, or from any vitamin at all.

Zero deaths from vitamins. Want to bet this will never be on the evening news? Well, have you seen it there? And why not?

After all, over half of the U.S. population takes daily nutritional supplements. If each of those people took only one single tablet daily, that makes some 170,000,000 individual doses per day, for a total of well over 60 billion doses annually. Since many persons take far more than just one single vitamin tablet, actual consumption is considerably higher, and the safety of vitamin supplements is all the more remarkable.

It was claimed that one person died from vitamin supplements in the year 2015, according to AAPCC's interpretation of information collected by the U.S. National Poison Data System. That single alleged "death" was supposedly due to "Other B-Vitamins." This was claimed back in 2012 as well, with no substantiation then, either. Indeed, the AAPCC report specifically indicates no deaths from niacin (B-3) or pyridoxine (B-6). That therefore leaves folic acid, thiamine (B-1), riboflavin (B-2), biotin, pantothenic acid, and cobalamin (B-12) as the remaining B-vitamins that could be implicated. However, the safety record of these vitamins is extraordinarily good; no fatalities have ever been confirmed for any of them.

Abram Hoffer, MD, PhD, repeatedly said: "No one dies from vitamins." He was right when he said it and he is still right today. The Orthomolecular Medicine News Service invites submission of specific scientific evidence conclusively demonstrating death caused by a vitamin.

Where are the bodies? There aren't any. DoctorYourself.com: Andrew Saul's Natural Health Website

That's the best you've got? NOBODY DIED? So OD on all vitamins. GOT IT! :D

Getting Too Much of Vitamins And Minerals
The health consequences of going overboard.

By Cari Nierenberg

Nowadays, everything from bottled water to orange juice seems to have souped-up levels of vitamins and minerals in it. That may sound like a way to help cover your nutritional bases, especially if your diet is less than stellar. But routinely getting an overload of vitamins and minerals can hurt you.

Too much vitamin C or zinc could cause nausea, diarrhea, and stomach cramps. Too much selenium could lead to hair loss, gastrointestinal upset, fatigue, and mild nerve damage.

While most people aren't getting megadoses, if you eat a fortified cereal at breakfast, grab an energy bar between meals, have enriched pasta for dinner, and take a daily supplement, you could easily be over the recommended daily intake of a host of nutrients.

Taking Too Many Vitamins? Side Effects of Vitamin Overdosing

###

Is it possible to take too much vitamin C?
Answers from Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.

While vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is an essential nutrient, it's possible to have too much of it.

Vitamin C is a water-soluble vitamin that supports normal growth and development and helps your body absorb iron. Because your body doesn't produce or store vitamin C, it's important to include vitamin C in your diet. For most people, an orange or a cup of strawberries, chopped red pepper, or broccoli provides enough vitamin C for the day.


For adults, the recommended daily amount for vitamin C is 65 to 90 milligrams (mg) a day, and the upper limit is 2,000 mg a day. Although too much dietary vitamin C is unlikely to be harmful, megadoses of vitamin C supplements might cause:
  • Diarrhea
  • Nausea
  • Vomiting
  • Heartburn
  • Abdominal cramps
  • Headache
  • Insomnia
Remember, for most people, a healthy diet provides an adequate amount of vitamin C.
You go ahead an believe the establishment. You will be in the ground sooner than you think.

I have followed Dr Cathcart’s bowel tolerance protocol. When sick I greatly increase my intake. I can take dozens of grams of C in a short period of time, with amazing results, just as the great doctors have proven, and without any negative side effects.

You keep taking Big Pharma’s drugs and make sure to take very large doses. You won’t be around long.
Vitamin C Dosage in Disease
 
Good God man! Pauling is not a RESPONSIBLE source...he won two Nobel prizes, wrote many best selling books, and is considered one of the greats.

Please leave the thread now or be banned.

Your fear of the facts being posted are duly noted. Please grow up.

He had books to sell and his "findings" have been debunked.

Pauling's work on vitamin C in his later years generated much controversy. He was first introduced to the concept of high-dose vitamin C by biochemist Irwin Stone in 1966. After becoming convinced of its worth, Pauling took 3 grams of vitamin C every day to prevent colds.[4] Excited by his own perceived results, he researched the clinical literature and published Vitamin C and the Common Cold in 1970. He began a long clinical collaboration with the British cancer surgeon Ewan Cameron in 1971 on the use of intravenous and oral vitamin C as cancer therapy for terminal patients.[150] Cameron and Pauling wrote many technical papers and a popular book, Cancer and Vitamin C, that discussed their observations. Pauling made vitamin C popular with the public[151] and eventually published two studies of a group of 100 allegedly terminal patients that claimed vitamin C increased survival by as much as four times compared to untreated patients.[152][153]

A re-evaluation of the claims in 1982 found that the patient groups were not actually comparable, with the vitamin C group being less sick on entry to the study, and judged to be "terminal" much earlier than the comparison group.[154] Later clinical trials conducted by the Mayo Clinic also concluded that high-dose (10,000 mg) vitamin C was no better than placebo at treating cancer and that there was no benefit to high-dose vitamin C.[155][156][157] The failure of the clinical trials to demonstrate any benefit resulted in the conclusion that vitamin C was not effective in treating cancer; the medical establishment concluded that his claims that vitamin C could prevent colds or treat cancer were quackery.

Linus Pauling - Wikipedia
Why would you post a wikiquote out of context? How about the rest of that quote?

"Pauling denounced the conclusions of these studies and handling of the final study as "fraud and deliberate misrepresentation",[159][160] and criticized the studies for using oral, rather than intravenous vitamin C[161] (which was the dosing method used for the first ten days of Pauling's original study[158]). Pauling also criticised the Mayo clinic studies because the controls were taking vitamin C during the trial, and because the duration of the treatment with vitamin C was short; Pauling advocated continued high-dose vitamin C for the rest of the cancer patient's life whereas the Mayo clinic patients in the second trial were treated with vitamin C for a median of 2.5 months.[162] The results were publicly debated at length with considerable acrimony between Pauling and Cameron, and Moertel (the lead author of the Mayo Clinic studies), with accusations of misconduct and scientific incompetence on both sides."

WOW, Pauling denounced actual medical studies that debunked his limited study. It must have really slashed book sales!
I think we can all agreed, excepting for a few miscreants and lazy f**ks^^^, that depending on establishment medicine to keep one healthy is a big mistake. As the great Dr Saul has said for years and named his wonderful website same..."DOCTOR YOURSELF....If you want something done right you have to do it yourself. This especially includes your health care."

As such it is incumbent on all of us to do the research ourselves. There is an enormous amount of information readily available to us all.

Dr Saul likes to say no one has died from an overdose of vitamins.

No Deaths from Vitamins. None.
Safety Confirmed by America's Largest Database

by Andrew W. Saul, Editor
(OMNS, Jan 3, 2017) There were no deaths whatsoever from vitamins in the year 2015. The 33rd annual report from the American Association of Poison Control Centers shows zero deaths from multiple vitamins. And, there were no deaths whatsoever from vitamin A, niacin, pyridoxine (B-6) any other B-vitamin. There were no deaths from vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin E, or from any vitamin at all.

Zero deaths from vitamins. Want to bet this will never be on the evening news? Well, have you seen it there? And why not?

After all, over half of the U.S. population takes daily nutritional supplements. If each of those people took only one single tablet daily, that makes some 170,000,000 individual doses per day, for a total of well over 60 billion doses annually. Since many persons take far more than just one single vitamin tablet, actual consumption is considerably higher, and the safety of vitamin supplements is all the more remarkable.

It was claimed that one person died from vitamin supplements in the year 2015, according to AAPCC's interpretation of information collected by the U.S. National Poison Data System. That single alleged "death" was supposedly due to "Other B-Vitamins." This was claimed back in 2012 as well, with no substantiation then, either. Indeed, the AAPCC report specifically indicates no deaths from niacin (B-3) or pyridoxine (B-6). That therefore leaves folic acid, thiamine (B-1), riboflavin (B-2), biotin, pantothenic acid, and cobalamin (B-12) as the remaining B-vitamins that could be implicated. However, the safety record of these vitamins is extraordinarily good; no fatalities have ever been confirmed for any of them.

Abram Hoffer, MD, PhD, repeatedly said: "No one dies from vitamins." He was right when he said it and he is still right today. The Orthomolecular Medicine News Service invites submission of specific scientific evidence conclusively demonstrating death caused by a vitamin.

Where are the bodies? There aren't any. DoctorYourself.com: Andrew Saul's Natural Health Website

That's the best you've got? NOBODY DIED? So OD on all vitamins. GOT IT! :D

Getting Too Much of Vitamins And Minerals
The health consequences of going overboard.

By Cari Nierenberg

Nowadays, everything from bottled water to orange juice seems to have souped-up levels of vitamins and minerals in it. That may sound like a way to help cover your nutritional bases, especially if your diet is less than stellar. But routinely getting an overload of vitamins and minerals can hurt you.

Too much vitamin C or zinc could cause nausea, diarrhea, and stomach cramps. Too much selenium could lead to hair loss, gastrointestinal upset, fatigue, and mild nerve damage.

While most people aren't getting megadoses, if you eat a fortified cereal at breakfast, grab an energy bar between meals, have enriched pasta for dinner, and take a daily supplement, you could easily be over the recommended daily intake of a host of nutrients.

Taking Too Many Vitamins? Side Effects of Vitamin Overdosing

###

Is it possible to take too much vitamin C?
Answers from Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.

While vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is an essential nutrient, it's possible to have too much of it.

Vitamin C is a water-soluble vitamin that supports normal growth and development and helps your body absorb iron. Because your body doesn't produce or store vitamin C, it's important to include vitamin C in your diet. For most people, an orange or a cup of strawberries, chopped red pepper, or broccoli provides enough vitamin C for the day.


For adults, the recommended daily amount for vitamin C is 65 to 90 milligrams (mg) a day, and the upper limit is 2,000 mg a day. Although too much dietary vitamin C is unlikely to be harmful, megadoses of vitamin C supplements might cause:
  • Diarrhea
  • Nausea
  • Vomiting
  • Heartburn
  • Abdominal cramps
  • Headache
  • Insomnia
Remember, for most people, a healthy diet provides an adequate amount of vitamin C.
Contest: I will take 50 grams of C and you take 50 grams of one of Big Pharma’s poisoning drugs...like say Crestor. You will have killed yourself and I will be on the toilet getting cleaned out.
 
Your fear of the facts being posted are duly noted. Please grow up.

He had books to sell and his "findings" have been debunked.

Pauling's work on vitamin C in his later years generated much controversy. He was first introduced to the concept of high-dose vitamin C by biochemist Irwin Stone in 1966. After becoming convinced of its worth, Pauling took 3 grams of vitamin C every day to prevent colds.[4] Excited by his own perceived results, he researched the clinical literature and published Vitamin C and the Common Cold in 1970. He began a long clinical collaboration with the British cancer surgeon Ewan Cameron in 1971 on the use of intravenous and oral vitamin C as cancer therapy for terminal patients.[150] Cameron and Pauling wrote many technical papers and a popular book, Cancer and Vitamin C, that discussed their observations. Pauling made vitamin C popular with the public[151] and eventually published two studies of a group of 100 allegedly terminal patients that claimed vitamin C increased survival by as much as four times compared to untreated patients.[152][153]

A re-evaluation of the claims in 1982 found that the patient groups were not actually comparable, with the vitamin C group being less sick on entry to the study, and judged to be "terminal" much earlier than the comparison group.[154] Later clinical trials conducted by the Mayo Clinic also concluded that high-dose (10,000 mg) vitamin C was no better than placebo at treating cancer and that there was no benefit to high-dose vitamin C.[155][156][157] The failure of the clinical trials to demonstrate any benefit resulted in the conclusion that vitamin C was not effective in treating cancer; the medical establishment concluded that his claims that vitamin C could prevent colds or treat cancer were quackery.

Linus Pauling - Wikipedia
Why would you post a wikiquote out of context? How about the rest of that quote?

"Pauling denounced the conclusions of these studies and handling of the final study as "fraud and deliberate misrepresentation",[159][160] and criticized the studies for using oral, rather than intravenous vitamin C[161] (which was the dosing method used for the first ten days of Pauling's original study[158]). Pauling also criticised the Mayo clinic studies because the controls were taking vitamin C during the trial, and because the duration of the treatment with vitamin C was short; Pauling advocated continued high-dose vitamin C for the rest of the cancer patient's life whereas the Mayo clinic patients in the second trial were treated with vitamin C for a median of 2.5 months.[162] The results were publicly debated at length with considerable acrimony between Pauling and Cameron, and Moertel (the lead author of the Mayo Clinic studies), with accusations of misconduct and scientific incompetence on both sides."

WOW, Pauling denounced actual medical studies that debunked his limited study. It must have really slashed book sales!
I think we can all agreed, excepting for a few miscreants and lazy f**ks^^^, that depending on establishment medicine to keep one healthy is a big mistake. As the great Dr Saul has said for years and named his wonderful website same..."DOCTOR YOURSELF....If you want something done right you have to do it yourself. This especially includes your health care."

As such it is incumbent on all of us to do the research ourselves. There is an enormous amount of information readily available to us all.

Dr Saul likes to say no one has died from an overdose of vitamins.

No Deaths from Vitamins. None.
Safety Confirmed by America's Largest Database

by Andrew W. Saul, Editor
(OMNS, Jan 3, 2017) There were no deaths whatsoever from vitamins in the year 2015. The 33rd annual report from the American Association of Poison Control Centers shows zero deaths from multiple vitamins. And, there were no deaths whatsoever from vitamin A, niacin, pyridoxine (B-6) any other B-vitamin. There were no deaths from vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin E, or from any vitamin at all.

Zero deaths from vitamins. Want to bet this will never be on the evening news? Well, have you seen it there? And why not?

After all, over half of the U.S. population takes daily nutritional supplements. If each of those people took only one single tablet daily, that makes some 170,000,000 individual doses per day, for a total of well over 60 billion doses annually. Since many persons take far more than just one single vitamin tablet, actual consumption is considerably higher, and the safety of vitamin supplements is all the more remarkable.

It was claimed that one person died from vitamin supplements in the year 2015, according to AAPCC's interpretation of information collected by the U.S. National Poison Data System. That single alleged "death" was supposedly due to "Other B-Vitamins." This was claimed back in 2012 as well, with no substantiation then, either. Indeed, the AAPCC report specifically indicates no deaths from niacin (B-3) or pyridoxine (B-6). That therefore leaves folic acid, thiamine (B-1), riboflavin (B-2), biotin, pantothenic acid, and cobalamin (B-12) as the remaining B-vitamins that could be implicated. However, the safety record of these vitamins is extraordinarily good; no fatalities have ever been confirmed for any of them.

Abram Hoffer, MD, PhD, repeatedly said: "No one dies from vitamins." He was right when he said it and he is still right today. The Orthomolecular Medicine News Service invites submission of specific scientific evidence conclusively demonstrating death caused by a vitamin.

Where are the bodies? There aren't any. DoctorYourself.com: Andrew Saul's Natural Health Website

That's the best you've got? NOBODY DIED? So OD on all vitamins. GOT IT! :D

Getting Too Much of Vitamins And Minerals
The health consequences of going overboard.

By Cari Nierenberg

Nowadays, everything from bottled water to orange juice seems to have souped-up levels of vitamins and minerals in it. That may sound like a way to help cover your nutritional bases, especially if your diet is less than stellar. But routinely getting an overload of vitamins and minerals can hurt you.

Too much vitamin C or zinc could cause nausea, diarrhea, and stomach cramps. Too much selenium could lead to hair loss, gastrointestinal upset, fatigue, and mild nerve damage.

While most people aren't getting megadoses, if you eat a fortified cereal at breakfast, grab an energy bar between meals, have enriched pasta for dinner, and take a daily supplement, you could easily be over the recommended daily intake of a host of nutrients.

Taking Too Many Vitamins? Side Effects of Vitamin Overdosing

###

Is it possible to take too much vitamin C?
Answers from Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.

While vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is an essential nutrient, it's possible to have too much of it.

Vitamin C is a water-soluble vitamin that supports normal growth and development and helps your body absorb iron. Because your body doesn't produce or store vitamin C, it's important to include vitamin C in your diet. For most people, an orange or a cup of strawberries, chopped red pepper, or broccoli provides enough vitamin C for the day.


For adults, the recommended daily amount for vitamin C is 65 to 90 milligrams (mg) a day, and the upper limit is 2,000 mg a day. Although too much dietary vitamin C is unlikely to be harmful, megadoses of vitamin C supplements might cause:
  • Diarrhea
  • Nausea
  • Vomiting
  • Heartburn
  • Abdominal cramps
  • Headache
  • Insomnia
Remember, for most people, a healthy diet provides an adequate amount of vitamin C.
Contest: I will take 50 grams of C and you take 50 grams of one of Big Pharma’s poisoning drugs...like say Crestor. You will have killed yourself and I will be on the toilet getting cleaned out.

You really should work on not being such a sore loser.

You made false statements, I proved you wrong and you started whining. It is really very unbecoming to you.
 
Why would you post a wikiquote out of context? How about the rest of that quote?

"Pauling denounced the conclusions of these studies and handling of the final study as "fraud and deliberate misrepresentation",[159][160] and criticized the studies for using oral, rather than intravenous vitamin C[161] (which was the dosing method used for the first ten days of Pauling's original study[158]). Pauling also criticised the Mayo clinic studies because the controls were taking vitamin C during the trial, and because the duration of the treatment with vitamin C was short; Pauling advocated continued high-dose vitamin C for the rest of the cancer patient's life whereas the Mayo clinic patients in the second trial were treated with vitamin C for a median of 2.5 months.[162] The results were publicly debated at length with considerable acrimony between Pauling and Cameron, and Moertel (the lead author of the Mayo Clinic studies), with accusations of misconduct and scientific incompetence on both sides."

WOW, Pauling denounced actual medical studies that debunked his limited study. It must have really slashed book sales!
I think we can all agreed, excepting for a few miscreants and lazy f**ks^^^, that depending on establishment medicine to keep one healthy is a big mistake. As the great Dr Saul has said for years and named his wonderful website same..."DOCTOR YOURSELF....If you want something done right you have to do it yourself. This especially includes your health care."

As such it is incumbent on all of us to do the research ourselves. There is an enormous amount of information readily available to us all.

Dr Saul likes to say no one has died from an overdose of vitamins.

No Deaths from Vitamins. None.
Safety Confirmed by America's Largest Database

by Andrew W. Saul, Editor
(OMNS, Jan 3, 2017) There were no deaths whatsoever from vitamins in the year 2015. The 33rd annual report from the American Association of Poison Control Centers shows zero deaths from multiple vitamins. And, there were no deaths whatsoever from vitamin A, niacin, pyridoxine (B-6) any other B-vitamin. There were no deaths from vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin E, or from any vitamin at all.

Zero deaths from vitamins. Want to bet this will never be on the evening news? Well, have you seen it there? And why not?

After all, over half of the U.S. population takes daily nutritional supplements. If each of those people took only one single tablet daily, that makes some 170,000,000 individual doses per day, for a total of well over 60 billion doses annually. Since many persons take far more than just one single vitamin tablet, actual consumption is considerably higher, and the safety of vitamin supplements is all the more remarkable.

It was claimed that one person died from vitamin supplements in the year 2015, according to AAPCC's interpretation of information collected by the U.S. National Poison Data System. That single alleged "death" was supposedly due to "Other B-Vitamins." This was claimed back in 2012 as well, with no substantiation then, either. Indeed, the AAPCC report specifically indicates no deaths from niacin (B-3) or pyridoxine (B-6). That therefore leaves folic acid, thiamine (B-1), riboflavin (B-2), biotin, pantothenic acid, and cobalamin (B-12) as the remaining B-vitamins that could be implicated. However, the safety record of these vitamins is extraordinarily good; no fatalities have ever been confirmed for any of them.

Abram Hoffer, MD, PhD, repeatedly said: "No one dies from vitamins." He was right when he said it and he is still right today. The Orthomolecular Medicine News Service invites submission of specific scientific evidence conclusively demonstrating death caused by a vitamin.

Where are the bodies? There aren't any. DoctorYourself.com: Andrew Saul's Natural Health Website

That's the best you've got? NOBODY DIED? So OD on all vitamins. GOT IT! :D

Getting Too Much of Vitamins And Minerals
The health consequences of going overboard.

By Cari Nierenberg

Nowadays, everything from bottled water to orange juice seems to have souped-up levels of vitamins and minerals in it. That may sound like a way to help cover your nutritional bases, especially if your diet is less than stellar. But routinely getting an overload of vitamins and minerals can hurt you.

Too much vitamin C or zinc could cause nausea, diarrhea, and stomach cramps. Too much selenium could lead to hair loss, gastrointestinal upset, fatigue, and mild nerve damage.

While most people aren't getting megadoses, if you eat a fortified cereal at breakfast, grab an energy bar between meals, have enriched pasta for dinner, and take a daily supplement, you could easily be over the recommended daily intake of a host of nutrients.

Taking Too Many Vitamins? Side Effects of Vitamin Overdosing

###

Is it possible to take too much vitamin C?
Answers from Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.

While vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is an essential nutrient, it's possible to have too much of it.

Vitamin C is a water-soluble vitamin that supports normal growth and development and helps your body absorb iron. Because your body doesn't produce or store vitamin C, it's important to include vitamin C in your diet. For most people, an orange or a cup of strawberries, chopped red pepper, or broccoli provides enough vitamin C for the day.


For adults, the recommended daily amount for vitamin C is 65 to 90 milligrams (mg) a day, and the upper limit is 2,000 mg a day. Although too much dietary vitamin C is unlikely to be harmful, megadoses of vitamin C supplements might cause:
  • Diarrhea
  • Nausea
  • Vomiting
  • Heartburn
  • Abdominal cramps
  • Headache
  • Insomnia
Remember, for most people, a healthy diet provides an adequate amount of vitamin C.
Contest: I will take 50 grams of C and you take 50 grams of one of Big Pharma’s poisoning drugs...like say Crestor. You will have killed yourself and I will be on the toilet getting cleaned out.

You really should work on not being such a sore loser.

You made false statements, I proved you wrong and you started whining. It is really very unbecoming to you.
Oh please. You don’t even know how many grams are in 10,000mg. Stop being a dick.
 

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