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Relevant Personal Experience:Question smarty pants...how many people OD on Big Pharma’s drugs?I think we can all agreed, excepting for a few miscreants and lazy f**ks^^^, that depending on establishment medicine to keep one healthy is a big mistake. As the great Dr Saul has said for years and named his wonderful website same..."DOCTOR YOURSELF....If you want something done right you have to do it yourself. This especially includes your health care."Why would you post a wikiquote out of context? How about the rest of that quote?Your fear of the facts being posted are duly noted. Please grow up.
He had books to sell and his "findings" have been debunked.
Pauling's work on vitamin C in his later years generated much controversy. He was first introduced to the concept of high-dose vitamin C by biochemist Irwin Stone in 1966. After becoming convinced of its worth, Pauling took 3 grams of vitamin C every day to prevent colds.[4] Excited by his own perceived results, he researched the clinical literature and published Vitamin C and the Common Cold in 1970. He began a long clinical collaboration with the British cancer surgeon Ewan Cameron in 1971 on the use of intravenous and oral vitamin C as cancer therapy for terminal patients.[150] Cameron and Pauling wrote many technical papers and a popular book, Cancer and Vitamin C, that discussed their observations. Pauling made vitamin C popular with the public[151] and eventually published two studies of a group of 100 allegedly terminal patients that claimed vitamin C increased survival by as much as four times compared to untreated patients.[152][153]
A re-evaluation of the claims in 1982 found that the patient groups were not actually comparable, with the vitamin C group being less sick on entry to the study, and judged to be "terminal" much earlier than the comparison group.[154] Later clinical trials conducted by the Mayo Clinic also concluded that high-dose (10,000 mg) vitamin C was no better than placebo at treating cancer and that there was no benefit to high-dose vitamin C.[155][156][157] The failure of the clinical trials to demonstrate any benefit resulted in the conclusion that vitamin C was not effective in treating cancer; the medical establishment concluded that his claims that vitamin C could prevent colds or treat cancer were quackery.
Linus Pauling - Wikipedia
"Pauling denounced the conclusions of these studies and handling of the final study as "fraud and deliberate misrepresentation",[159][160] and criticized the studies for using oral, rather than intravenous vitamin C[161] (which was the dosing method used for the first ten days of Pauling's original study[158]). Pauling also criticised the Mayo clinic studies because the controls were taking vitamin C during the trial, and because the duration of the treatment with vitamin C was short; Pauling advocated continued high-dose vitamin C for the rest of the cancer patient's life whereas the Mayo clinic patients in the second trial were treated with vitamin C for a median of 2.5 months.[162] The results were publicly debated at length with considerable acrimony between Pauling and Cameron, and Moertel (the lead author of the Mayo Clinic studies), with accusations of misconduct and scientific incompetence on both sides."
WOW, Pauling denounced actual medical studies that debunked his limited study. It must have really slashed book sales!
As such it is incumbent on all of us to do the research ourselves. There is an enormous amount of information readily available to us all.
Dr Saul likes to say no one has died from an overdose of vitamins.
No Deaths from Vitamins. None.
Safety Confirmed by America's Largest Database
by Andrew W. Saul, Editor
(OMNS, Jan 3, 2017) There were no deaths whatsoever from vitamins in the year 2015. The 33rd annual report from the American Association of Poison Control Centers shows zero deaths from multiple vitamins. And, there were no deaths whatsoever from vitamin A, niacin, pyridoxine (B-6) any other B-vitamin. There were no deaths from vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin E, or from any vitamin at all.
Zero deaths from vitamins. Want to bet this will never be on the evening news? Well, have you seen it there? And why not?
After all, over half of the U.S. population takes daily nutritional supplements. If each of those people took only one single tablet daily, that makes some 170,000,000 individual doses per day, for a total of well over 60 billion doses annually. Since many persons take far more than just one single vitamin tablet, actual consumption is considerably higher, and the safety of vitamin supplements is all the more remarkable.
It was claimed that one person died from vitamin supplements in the year 2015, according to AAPCC's interpretation of information collected by the U.S. National Poison Data System. That single alleged "death" was supposedly due to "Other B-Vitamins." This was claimed back in 2012 as well, with no substantiation then, either. Indeed, the AAPCC report specifically indicates no deaths from niacin (B-3) or pyridoxine (B-6). That therefore leaves folic acid, thiamine (B-1), riboflavin (B-2), biotin, pantothenic acid, and cobalamin (B-12) as the remaining B-vitamins that could be implicated. However, the safety record of these vitamins is extraordinarily good; no fatalities have ever been confirmed for any of them.
Abram Hoffer, MD, PhD, repeatedly said: "No one dies from vitamins." He was right when he said it and he is still right today. The Orthomolecular Medicine News Service invites submission of specific scientific evidence conclusively demonstrating death caused by a vitamin.
Where are the bodies? There aren't any. DoctorYourself.com: Andrew Saul's Natural Health Website
That's the best you've got? NOBODY DIED? So OD on all vitamins. GOT IT!
Getting Too Much of Vitamins And Minerals
The health consequences of going overboard.
By Cari Nierenberg
Nowadays, everything from bottled water to orange juice seems to have souped-up levels of vitamins and minerals in it. That may sound like a way to help cover your nutritional bases, especially if your diet is less than stellar. But routinely getting an overload of vitamins and minerals can hurt you.
Too much vitamin C or zinc could cause nausea, diarrhea, and stomach cramps. Too much selenium could lead to hair loss, gastrointestinal upset, fatigue, and mild nerve damage.
While most people aren't getting megadoses, if you eat a fortified cereal at breakfast, grab an energy bar between meals, have enriched pasta for dinner, and take a daily supplement, you could easily be over the recommended daily intake of a host of nutrients.
Taking Too Many Vitamins? Side Effects of Vitamin Overdosing
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Is it possible to take too much vitamin C?
Answers from Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.
While vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is an essential nutrient, it's possible to have too much of it.
Vitamin C is a water-soluble vitamin that supports normal growth and development and helps your body absorb iron. Because your body doesn't produce or store vitamin C, it's important to include vitamin C in your diet. For most people, an orange or a cup of strawberries, chopped red pepper, or broccoli provides enough vitamin C for the day.
For adults, the recommended daily amount for vitamin C is 65 to 90 milligrams (mg) a day, and the upper limit is 2,000 mg a day. Although too much dietary vitamin C is unlikely to be harmful, megadoses of vitamin C supplements might cause:
Remember, for most people, a healthy diet provides an adequate amount of vitamin C.
- Diarrhea
- Nausea
- Vomiting
- Heartburn
- Abdominal cramps
- Headache
- Insomnia
Yesterday afternoon I felt a scratchy throat. Years ago when I was an uninformed moron, like some posters in this great thread, I would have suffered for 1-2 weeks with the common cold.
Thanks to the many great doctors who identified the wonders of vitamin C, I am completely healthy this morning. I consumed 30-35 grams of C (that is 30k-35k mg for the dummy in this thread) over an 8 hour period. I even further exposed my immune system by taking a 2.5 hour flight to Florida, last night.
I feel GREAT! Thank you Dr Cathcart.