Why did the holocaust occur?

[ABikerSailor]

Del,

I'm trying to debate and I haven't resorted to name - calling. Please, let us try to act as mature adults.

Whaa fucking Whaa douchebag. What? You can call other people things, as well as tell others what they should do, and when it's done to YOU, ya go all wimp on us.

Yacking One.......mebbe you should find another place, your skin isn't thick enough to play around here.

Ya ain't smart enough either.

 

[BrianH]

In pre-Hitler Germany the Jewish people caused the high unemployment, stole businesses from hard working Germans, and denied food to the hungry Germans who lost their jobs. What did you expect herr Hitler would do? Give them more perhaps. The fact is my children that the Jewish people created a lot of problems they encountered.

Whether or not they were exterminated is a matter of debate. Check out the post WWII census of Europe and try to find any data to support the claim that there were even 6 million Jews in all of Europe in 1939.

Many Jewish people died in work camps because they were not used to hard-work and of course they blamed the Germans. Hollywood, which is controlled by Zionists, has convinced most people that 6 million died. I have my doubts as any thinking person should.

??????????????? You've obviously never met a survivor. Start by reading the Diary of Anne Frank. I guess the pictures of bones in a furnace was photoshopped...

And you obviously don't have a rational cell in your brain. Regardless of whether or not the Jewish people "caused problems" for the German people, you don't simply exterminate people who are either smarter and or more resourceful than you. I saw props to the Jews for using what they have and making better lives for themselves. Not that we're in Europe, but isn't that what American principles are about??? Pulling yourself up by your boot-straps and making alot out of what you have.

The Holocaust has its origins in the basic anti-semitism that had plagued Europe for YEARS. Hitler simply brainwashed the German people into hating Jews more than they already did. Hitler blamed the jews for the German loss of World War I, claiming it was the Jews and their conspirators. Germany experiences what we often experience here in the U.S. When something goes wrong, we look for someone to blame. Hitler used his hatred of the Jews to emphasize Germany's problems.

IMO, Germany's problems stemmed from the destruction of World War I to Europe's economy as well as the STIFF/STRICT regulations of the Treaty of Versailles. Germans were burning money for warmth. THINGS WERE BAD, and people looked for someone to blame. Not only did they blame the Democratic government that governed during World War I, but also blamed the Jews with a little guidance from Hiter's anti-semitist views. Lets not also forget that aside from Hitler's anti-semitism and dreams to conquer the world, he could have gone down as one of the most successful leader in world history. He took a baren nation from the gutter, to one of the most (and possibly the most) power nation on earth in a period of a few years. Who could blame the German people for following him? They went from burning money for heat, to enjoying the perks of being a world power. There's more do it than that, but you get the drift.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Tell ya what Yakking One......since you spent 16 years in the priesthood, that means YOU ALSO are not "used to hard work".

So......we'll let YOU go into a concentration camp and treat you just like the Germans treated the Jews.

Spend a month, then come back and tell us how 'nice' the Germans were to the Jews.

Working for the German war machine in WWII was a lot harder than molesting altar boys in the priesthood.

 

[Sunni Man]

Diary of Anne Frank is a Fraud

In April, the diary was turned over to techicians of the BKA [Bundeskriminalamt, Germany's "FBI"] for examination.

The manuscript, in the form of three hardbound notebooks and 324 loose pages bound in a fourth notebook, was examined with special equipment.

The results of tests performed at the BKA laboratories show that portions of the work, specially of the fourth volume, were written with a ballpoint pen. Since ballpoint pens were not available before 1951, the BKA concluded, those sections must have been added subsequently.

The Fraud of the Diary of Anne Frank

 

[ABikerSailor]

NEWS REPORT..........NEWS REPORT..........NEWS REPORT..............

Scientists in Saudi Arabia have discovered that the Q'aran is a total fabrication and a lie! It was recently re-written to include world domination and terror......

Islam is a lie!

 

[Sunni Man]

NEWS REPORT..........NEWS REPORT..........NEWS REPORT..............

Scientists in Saudi Arabia have discovered that the Q'aran is a total fabrication and a lie! It was recently re-written to include world domination and terror......

Evidence or link Please

 

[ABikerSailor]

No need. You sure as hell don't quote anything from a reputable news source.

Why should I?

 

[KittenKoder]

??????????????? You've obviously never met a survivor. Start by reading the Diary of Anne Frank. I guess the pictures of bones in a furnace was photoshopped...

Don't you know, all the historic pictures were photo-shopped! Even though it didn't exist back then and most of us saw them long before they were put into digital format ...

 

[Diuretic]

Diary of Anne Frank is a Fraud

In April, the diary was turned over to techicians of the BKA [Bundeskriminalamt, Germany's "FBI"] for examination.

The manuscript, in the form of three hardbound notebooks and 324 loose pages bound in a fourth notebook, was examined with special equipment.

The results of tests performed at the BKA laboratories show that portions of the work, specially of the fourth volume, were written with a ballpoint pen. Since ballpoint pens were not available before 1951, the BKA concluded, those sections must have been added subsequently.

The Fraud of the Diary of Anne Frank

Problem for you. Ballpoint pens were in use during WWII.

 

[Diuretic]

Another problem for you.

The origin of the "ballpoint myth" is the four-page report that the Federal Criminal Police Office (the Bundeskriminalamt or BKA) in Wiesbaden, which was published in 1980. In this investigation into the types of paper and ink used in the diary of Anne Frank it is stated that "ballpoint corrections" had been made on some loose sheets. The BKA’s task was to report on all the texts found among the diaries of Anne Frank, and therefore also on the annotations that were made in Anne’s manuscripts after the war. However, the Dutch investigation by the Forensic Institute in the mid-1980’s shows that writing in ballpoint is only found on two loose pages of annotations, and that these annotations are of no significance for the actual content of the diary. They were clearly placed between the other pages later. The researchers of the Forensic Institute also concluded that the handwriting on these two annotation sheets differs from the writing in the diary "to a far-reaching degree." Photos of these loose annotation sheets are included in the NIOD’s publication (see The Diary of Anne Frank: The Revised Critical Edition, 2003, pages 168 and 170). In 1987, a Mr Ockelmann from Hamburg wrote that his mother had written the annotation sheets in question. Mrs Ockelmann was a member of the team that carried out the graphological investigation into the writings of Anne Frank around 1960.

In short: the ‘ballpoint myth’ is easy to disprove. The careless wording of the BKA report from 1980 – a report that for the rest in no way challenges the authenticity of the diary – or at any rate its openness to several interpretations, has taken on a life of its own in extreme right-wing circles. The "ballpoint myth" is based on the simple fact that, around 1960, two annotation sheets with ballpoint writing were inserted between the original pages. These texts were written by a graphological researcher, and are not included in any edition of the diary (apart from the Critical Edition, where photos of the annotation sheets are reproduced). In July 2006, the BKA found it necessary to state in a press release that the 1980 investigation cannot be used to call the authenticity of the diary into doubt.

Entries in ballpoint pen - the official Anne Frank House website

Just the usual merry-go-round bullshit by the haters.

 

[KittenKoder]

I think Sunni (and those like him) is just getting greedy, it's not enough they now have equal rights, they want more, so they make it look like the other "minority" groups didn't have it as bad, thus making it look like they should get more than the others. I wonder if he even admits that the Japanese/Chinese/etc. were all placed in US concentration camps as a result Pearl Harbor for a short time. Then when they were finally set free they had nothing but managed to work their way back into our business world.

 

[Sunni Man]

Anne Frank's father, Mr. Otto Hans Frank, doctored up the diary and forged many parts of the work.

With the whole Holohoax Industry behind him.

Mr. Frank turned this fictional piece of work into an international money making machine.

 

[Sunni Man]

I think Sunni (and those like him) is just getting greedy, it's not enough they now have equal rights, they want more, so they make it look like the other "minority" groups didn't have it as bad, thus making it look like they should get more than the others. I wonder if he even admits that the Japanese/Chinese/etc. were all placed in US concentration camps as a result Pearl Harbor for a short time. Then when they were finally set free they had nothing but managed to work their way back into our business world.

How is 1.1 billion muslims a minority group?

 

[Diuretic]

Anne Frank's father, Mr. Otto Hans Frank, doctored up the diary and forged many parts of the work.

With the whole Holohoax Industry behind him.

Mr. Frank turned this fictional piece of work into an international money making machine.

Please, if you're at the point of recycling bullshit (and I congratulate you on recycling) can you at least find some fresher bullshit?

 

[Sunni Man]

Anne Frank's father, Mr. Otto Hans Frank, doctored up the diary and forged many parts of the work.

With the whole Holohoax Industry behind him.

Mr. Frank turned this fictional piece of work into an international money making machine.

Please, if you're at the point of recycling bullshit (and I congratulate you on recycling) can you at least find some fresher bullshit?

I know it's hard for you to accept the truth Diuretic.

Like most people, you have been programed to believe the Holohoax and all of the lie's associated with it.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Stunning.

I'm really thinking almost everything about you is complete bullshit, Sunni Man.

 

[KittenKoder]

Stunning.

I'm really thinking almost everything about you is complete bullshit, Sunni Man.

Just now catching up? ... *ducks*

 

[Sunni Man]

Stunning.

I'm really thinking almost everything about you is complete bullshit, Sunni Man.

Why do you say that?

Because I don't believe in the Anne Frank fraud?

Just google Anne Frank hoax or fraud, and tons of info comes up showing that the official story is not quite as solid as people have been led to believe.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Stunning.

I'm really thinking almost everything about you is complete bullshit, Sunni Man.

Just now catching up? ... *ducks*

Yeah, I'm really sloooowww. None of the pieces add up. We've got a poster who says he's a therapist--implying he's college educated and compassionate. And he's a Holocaust denier?

 

[Sky Dancer]

"How is the Holocaust denied?

The modern form of Holocaust denial is focused on a dismissal of three core aspects of the Holocaust:

“The suggestion of around 6 million Jewish victims is absurd – some Jews may have died during World War II, but not nearly 6 million”
“The suggested gas chambers in Auschwitz and elsewhere are an invention – scientific experiments show that gas was not used to kill people, but only for disinfections”
“It was never Hitler’s intention to murder the Jews – they were to be deported to the east, but never killed”
In order to create doubt about the truth of the Holocaust, the deniers use some very dubious methods. Some examples:

The deniers pretend to be working for the “historical truth”. This sounds very noble, but only works as a cover. The deniers are merely working to undermine acknowledged scholarship.

The deniers put an equation mark between the existence of several historical interpretations of the Holocaust and the fact that it never happened. In other words: If one historian suggests that only 4 million Jews fell victim to the nazi persecution, and another historian suggests 7 million, then they disagree – an then the Holocaust is a false construction. But: that two historians disagree about the number of victims is NOT the same as suggesting that the Holocaust never took place. Those elements are NOT inter-connected.

The deniers’ interpretation of the sources is highly suspect. If a source says something specific or direct about extermination of the Jews, it is rejected as a euphemism – words like ‘extermination’ are said to mean something much less terrible. If, on the other hand, a source does use a euphemism (for instance ‘special treatment’ instead of ‘murder&#8217 – which the Nazis frequently did – this source is of course taken literally.

The deniers also use pure falsifications, lies, rewritings of quotations, quotations taken out of their original context, and several other dirty tricks."
The Danish Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies