A former Atheist asks Being of Light of NDE fame why The Holocaust was allowed to happen?

[DennisPTate]

Former Atheist Howard Storm asks why the Being of Light of near death experience fame permitted The Holocaust to occur.

This explanation may assist to make sense out of that horrible part of modern history, [in the nation that had the highest percentage of Ph. D.'s in all of the earth at that time].

"I asked how God could let the Holocaust of World War II happen. We were transported to a railway station as a long train of freight cars was being unloaded of its human cargo. The guards were screaming and beating the people into submission. The people were Jewish men, women, and children. Exhausted from hunger and thirst, they were totally disoriented from the ordeal of being rounded up and sent on a long journey to an unknown destination. They believed that they were going to work camps, and that their submission to the brutality of the guards was the only way to survive.

We went to the area where the selection process was taking place and heard the guards talking about "the Angel Maker." We went to the place the guards were referring to as "the Angel Maker," which was a series of ovens. I saw piles of naked corpses being loaded into the ovens, and I began to cry. Jesus said to me, "These are the people God loves." Then he said, "Look up." Rising out of the smoke of the chimneys, I saw hundreds of people being met by thousands of angels taking them up into the sky. There was great joy in the faces of the people, and there appeared to be no trace of a memory of the horrendous suffering they had just endured. How ironic that the guards sarcastically called the ovens "the Angel Maker."

I asked how God could allow this to happen. They told me that this was not God's will. This was an abomination to God. God wants this never to happen again. This was the sacrifice of an innocent people to whom God had given the law to be an example, a light, to the rest of the world. This Holocaust was breaking God's heart. The anguish that Jesus was suffering at the slaughter of his people was too much for me to bear and I begged that we leave this place. I will never forget this: his anguish at this horror and what it represents. This was one of the low points in human history."

I asked, Why does God let things like this happen? They told me that God was very unhappy with the course of human history and was going to intervene to change the world. God had watched us sink to depths of depravity and cruelty at the very time that he was giving us the instruments to make the world a godlier world. God had intervened in the world many times before, but this time God was going to change the course of human events." (Howard Storm, My Descent Into Death, page 42,43)

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In my opinion near death experiencer Howard Storm does exceptional interviews.

A Trip to Hell & A Second Chance at Life with Howard Storm—Near-Death Experiencer, Professor, Author​

The near death experience of former Atheist Howard Storm can prepare all of us to be able to understand the near death experience of former Atheist Alon Anava who is now an Orthodox Jewish Rabbi.

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…One last chance​

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About Rabbi Anava​

Rabbi Alon Anava was born and raised in Israel. He grew up in Ra’anana in a very secular family without any Torah education or knowledge. He grew up hating religion and anything that had to do with it. He did not believe in G-od and the Torah and lived life as a secular Jew. In 1998, he moved to New York and soon after, on a very special day, the morning of Passover 2001 he had a Near Death Experience due to a sudden cardiac arrest. This event has changed his life for the GOOD!!!

Before his life-altering experience, Alon would describe himself as simply put, ‘not a nice guy..’ but after facing death, and realizing the purpose of life, Alon transformed his very being and since then dedicates his life to serving G-od and Torah observance. Soon After his Near Death Experience he diligently attended Yeshiva studying every day, exploring the depths of Torah, refining and elevating himself on a daily basis for over a decade. Rabbi Alon Anava attended his Rabbinical studies at Yeshivah Kol Ya’akov – Hadar Hatorah in Brooklyn, New York.

After seven years of Yeshivah studies, Rabbi Anava started sharing his Near Death Experience with the public lecturing all around the world at Schools, Synagogues, Yeshivahs, outreach programs and organizations, private sessions and much more, reaching tens of thousands of people at over 2,500 lectures in the past fifteen years. In the past 8 years Rabbi Anava has expanded his out reach efforts through the internet reaching tens of thousands of people resulting with over 500,000 followers worldwide on the internet and social networks. With over 25,000,000 views to his videos, over 1,000,000 DVDs and CDs distributed, his followers enjoy daily Torah studying on his websites, social networks, videos, podcasts, live streaming and live Torah classes and lectures. Rabbi Anava’s followers enjoy his undivided attention through daily phone calls, skype meetings, personal and group meetings along with coaching and assistance. Rabbi Anava and his wife opens their home for hundreds of guests that enjoy their warm and loving hospitality and uplifting Shabbat and holiday meals.

Alon has come back with a gift. He is able to connect to our creator in a very intimate way, allowing him to also connect intimately with others and really help them overcome their questions and concerns and lead and teach them to the right path of Torah observance.

Alon devotes his life to spreading G-od wisdom by teaching Torah every day at lectures, seminars, home gatherings, schools etc., and sharing his personal life changing experience all over the world. He spends his time sharing his story in an attempt to make it as real for you as it is for him. Our hope is that you as the listener will absorb Alon’s story and wake up to the reality of this world. We hope that you will have the strength within you to rise above what seems like the prevailing darkness and choose light. We encourage you to connect to your maker and begin your spiritual journey to better yourself and humanity as a whole. We encourage you to see the miracle of you!

"My Life After Death Experience" with Alon Anava​

 

[Dante]

just sayin'

"Scientific studies of Near-Death Experiences (NDEs) remain a subject of intense debate, with critics arguing they prove nothing about an afterlife because they are subjective, anecdotal, and likely products of a dying brain. While many researchers report consistent, lucid experiences during cardiac arrest, skeptics, such as those discussed on RichardDawkins.net, argue that these phenomena can be explained by cerebral hypoxia, endorphin release, or cultural expectations, rather than a separation of consciousness from the body."

 

[SaxonJackson]

Former Atheist Howard Storm asks why the Being of Light of near death experience fame permitted The Holocaust to occur.

This explanation may assist to make sense out of that horrible part of modern history, [in the nation that had the highest percentage of Ph. D.'s in all of the earth at that time].



In my opinion near death experiencer Howard Storm does exceptional interviews.

A Trip to Hell & A Second Chance at Life with Howard Storm—Near-Death Experiencer, Professor, Author​

I wonder if he asked about the 60 Million Christians who were massacred or starved by the Marxist Bolsheviks. Probably not. Nobody cares about the atrocities committed against Christians over the centuries.

 

[rightwinger]

Strange how when the Pharaoh angered God over his treatment of Jews, God sent seven plagues unto Egypt ending in killing the firstborn of Egypt.

But when Hitler killed six million Jews, God did nothing to Germany

 

[SaxonJackson]

Strange how when the Pharaoh angered God over his treatment of Jews, God sent seven plagues unto Egypt ending in killing the firstborn of Egypt.

But when Hitler killed six million Jews, God did nothing to Germany

There's a big (and I mean GIGANTIC) difference between biblical Israelites and German Ashkenazi Khazars. Two entirely different groups of people with no direct, genetic relationship.

 

[DennisPTate]

Strange how when the Pharaoh angered God over his treatment of Jews, God sent seven plagues unto Egypt ending in killing the firstborn of Egypt.

But when Hitler killed six million Jews, God did nothing to Germany

My guess off the top of my head based on reading and listening to a lot of these accounts is that each and every child that is born into Germany will carry some aspect of a "Mission" that will somehow relate to the increase and increase and increase of "The Kingdom of God" into all nations and into all people. A lot of modern German young people might even have been victims of The Holocaust in their past life time, [assuming the validity of the Dr. Ian Stevenson research and its connection to whatever it means by John the Baptist being somehow the modern Elijah for that time period]?

1. Introduction To Missions and the NDE​

Near-death experiences (NDEs) challenge the idea that life is random or meaningless. NDErs often return convinced that they were sent back because of an important “mission” still remaining for them to finish. NDE testimonies show our mission is a purposeful plan developed by us in spirit realms before birth, lived out in life on Earth through free will and destiny, and reviewed in the light when this life ends. This sense of mission is revealed in many ways: through encounters with a Being of Light, Jesus Christ, a “presence”, angelic beings, spirit guides, departed loved ones, a Council of Elders, an inner voice, or even vivid memories of existence before birth or between lives. The details may differ, but the core message is that every soul comes to Earth for spiritual growth that matters not only personally, but collectively and divinely.

Many of the NDE testimonies referenced in this article are drawn from firsthand accounts generously shared on the Near-Death Experience Research Foundation (NDERF.org) website. I gratefully acknowledge NDERF and its founders, Dr. Jeffrey Long and Jody Long, for their decades of dedication to collecting, preserving, and publishing the world’s most comprehensive archives of NDE testimonies. Their ongoing research and stewardship of these testimonies make it possible for readers, researchers, and NDErs alike to deepen their understanding of the profound insights reported during NDEs.

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Here is a great article on the Dr. Ian Stevenson research.

1. About Dr. Ian Stevenson​

Dr. Ian Stevenson (1918-2007) was a psychiatrist who worked for the University of Virginia School of Medicine for 50 years. He was Chair of the Department of Psychiatry from 1957 to 1967, the Carlson Professor of Psychiatry from 1967 to 2001, and a Research Professor of Psychiatry from 2002 until his death. He was also the founder and Director of the University of Virginia’s Division of Perceptual Studies investigating parapsychological phenomena such as (1) reincarnation, (2) near-death experiences, (3) out-of-body experiences, and (4) altered states of consciousness and psi. He became internationally recognized for his research into reincarnation by discovering evidence suggesting that memories and physical injuries can be transferred from one lifetime to another. He traveled extensively over a period of 40 years, investigating 3,000 cases of children around the world who recalled having past lives. His meticulous research presented evidence that such children had unusual abilities, illnesses, phobias and philias which could not be explained by the environment or heredity.

Dr. Stevenson’s reincarnation research began in 1960 when he learned of a case in Sri Lanka where a child reported remembering a past life. He thoroughly questioned the child and the child’s parents, including the people whom the child recalled were his parents from his past life. This led to Dr. Stevenson’s conviction that reincarnation was possibly a reality. That same year, Dr. Stevenson published two articles in the Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research about this child who remembered having a past life. The more such cases he discovered, the greater became his ambition to scientifically quantify the possibility of reincarnation – one of the world’s greatest mysteries – which had been virtually ignored by science in the past.

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[DennisPTate]

just sayin'

"Scientific studies of Near-Death Experiences (NDEs) remain a subject of intense debate, with critics arguing they prove nothing about an afterlife because they are subjective, anecdotal, and likely products of a dying brain. While many researchers report consistent, lucid experiences during cardiac arrest, skeptics, such as those discussed on RichardDawkins.net, argue that these phenomena can be explained by cerebral hypoxia, endorphin release, or cultural expectations, rather than a separation of consciousness from the body."

That is one way of looking at all of this but then why do so many near death experiencers have surges in IQ and other mental capabilities?

Page 4 of article from Psychology Today .com:

Reports are highly consistent and common: "I understand things so much more" and "My senses all seem heightened." Subjects claim "sudden knowledge and comprehension of complex mathematical theorems." Psychologist Ring has identified a consistent set of value and belief changes. They include:

a greater appreciation for life


o higher self-esteem

o greater compassion for others

o a heightened sense of purpose and self-understanding

o desire to learn

o elevated spirituality

o greater ecological sensitivity and planetary concern

o a feeling of being more intuitive, sometimes psychic.

o He also observes "psychophysical changes," including:


o increased physical sensitivity

o diminished tolerance to light, alcohol, and drugs

o a feeling that their brains have been "altered" to encompass more

o a feeling that they are now using their "whole brain" rather than just a small part.

NDErs undergo radical changes in personality, and their significant others—spouses, friends, relatives—confirm these changes, reports Bruce Greyson, M.D., clinical psychiatrist and associate professor at the University of Connecticut. Like Sappington, he is concerned with what can be learned from such new outlooks on life.


Specifically, Greyson wondered whether they could be of help to those of his private clients who were suicidal. "Suicide is generally unthinkable among near-death experiencers," he says. "They exude a peace about death which is very comforting." And yet, ironically, he found, "their experience imparts a sense of purpose to those with thoughts of suicide." Those who are suicidal come away with a "renewed hope in life itself, which actually helps them to go on with their own lives," reports Greyson.

Bright Lights, Big Mystery

Offers a look at near-death experiences-- How they have become psychology's newest cottage industry and questions how real they are.

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Isn't it logical that coming close to death should logically DECREASE mental capabilities, as opposed to increase them?

 

[DennisPTate]

There's a big (and I mean GIGANTIC) difference between biblical Israelites and German Ashkenazi Khazars. Two entirely different groups of people with no direct, genetic relationship.

But our long term destiny and calling has vastly more to do with our spirit and soul than with our genetics. But even when it comes to genetics....
our Creator has a plan. Some historians have postulated that the major ancestors of the German people were fairly close relatives to the Patriarch Abraham, [but families do tend to fight and squabble a lot].

For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord
As the waters cover the sea.
10“And in that day there shall be a Root of Jesse,
Who shall stand as a banner to the people;
For the Gentiles shall seek Him,
And His resting place shall be glorious.”
11It shall come to pass in that day
That the Lord shall set His hand again the second time
To recover the remnant of His people who are left,
From Assyria and Egypt,
From Pathros and Cush,
From Elam and Shinar,
From Hamath and the islands of the sea.
12He will set up a banner for the nations,
And will assemble the outcasts of Israel,
And gather together the dispersed of Judah
From the four corners of the earth.
13Also the envy of Ephraim shall depart,
And the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off;
Ephraim shall not envy Judah,
And Judah shall not harass Ephraim.
14But they shall fly down upon the shoulder of the Philistines toward the west;
Together they shall plunder the people of the East;
They shall lay their hand on Edom and Moab;
And the people of Ammon shall obey them.
15The Lord will utterly destroy the tongue of the Sea of Egypt;
With His mighty wind He will shake His fist over the River,
And strike it in the seven streams,
And make men cross over dry-shod.
16There will be a highway for the remnant of His people
Who will be left from Assyria,
As it was for Israel
In the day that he came up from the land of Egypt.

Isaiah 11 | NKJV Bible | YouVersion

The Reign of Jesse’s OffspringThere #(Zech. 6:12); Rev. 5:5shall come forth a Rod from the stem of #(Is. 9:7; 11:10); Matt. 1:5; (Acts 13:23)Jesse,And #Is. 4:2a Branch shall grow out of his root

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[rightwinger]

My guess off the top of my head based on reading and listening to a lot of these accounts is that each and every child that is born into Germany will carry some aspect of a "Mission" that will somehow relate to the increase and increase and increase of "The Kingdom of God" into all nations and into all people

A fantasy to make you feel better
The reality is that tens of millions of people were slaughtered and God did nothing
He used to

 

[DennisPTate]

A fantasy to make you feel better
The reality is that tens of millions of people were slaughtered and God did nothing
He used to

If you want to believe that way....
that is your choice....
but you will have to put your BRAIN into neutral or reverse...
and you will have to ignore new information that comes out
related to
1. The Anthropic Principle
2. String Theory
3 The capabilities of Energy from Quantum Vacuum to "learn"
4. Tehilliard's Law of Complexity Consciousness
5. The Law of Probability as it relates to life as we know it....
6. The Cyclic Model of the Universe or Multiverse that Stephen Hawking Ph. D. explained in chapter thirteen of "Stephen Hawking's Universe."

Basically the Cyclic Model of the Universe was shown to former Atheist and near death experiencer Mellen Thomas Benedict.

There is also the simple fact that our family members, kids and grandchildren may find this topic interesting, [and having productive conversations with our family is worth doing some research for].

[Mellen Benedict] :

6. The Void​

At this point of my NDE, I found myself in a profound stillness, beyond all silence. I could see or perceive FOREVER, beyond Infinity. I was in the Void.

I was in pre-creation, before the Big Bang. I had crossed over the beginning of time / the First Word / the First vibration. I was in the Eye of Creation. I felt as if I was touching the Face of God. It was not a religious feeling. Simply, I was at one with Absolute Life and Consciousness. When I say that I could see or perceive forever, I mean that I could experience all of creation generating itself. It was without beginning and without end. That’s a mind-expanding thought, isn’t it? Scientists perceive the Big Bang as a single event that created the Universe. I saw during my life after death experience that the Big Bang is only one of an infinite number of Big Bangs creating Universes endlessly and simultaneously. The only images that even come close in human terms would be those created by super computers using fractal geometry equations.

The ancients knew of this. They said God had periodically created new Universes by breathing out, and recreated other Universes by breathing in. These epochs were called Yugas. Modern science called this the Big Bang. I was in absolute, pure consciousness. I could see or perceive all the Big Bangs or Yugas creating and recreating themselves. Instantly I entered into them all simultaneously. I saw that each and every little piece of creation has the power to create. It is very difficult to try to explain this. I am still speechless about this.

It took me years after I returned from my NDE to assimilate any words at all for the Void experience. I can tell you this now: the Void is less than nothing, yet more than everything that is! The Void is absolute zero; chaos forming all possibilities. It is Absolute Consciousness; much more than even Universal Intelligence. The Void is the vacuum or nothingness between all physical manifestations. The SPACE between atoms and their components. Modern science has begun to study this space between everything. They call it Zero point. Whenever they try to measure it, their instruments go off the scale, or to infinity, so to speak. They have no way, as of yet, to measure infinity accurately. There is more of the zero space in your own body and the Universe than anything else!

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[rightwinger]

If you want to believe that way....
that is your choice....
but you will have to put your BRAIN into neutral or reverse...
and you will have to ignore new information that comes out
related to
1. The Anthropic Principle
2. String Theory
3 The capabilities of Energy from Quantum Vacuum to "learn"
4. Tehilliard's Law of Complexity Consciousness
5. The Law of Probability as it relates to life as we know it....
6. The Cyclic Model of the Universe or Multiverse that Stephen Hawking Ph. D. explained in chapter thirteen of "Stephen Hawking's Universe."

Basically the Cyclic Model of the Universe was shown to former Atheist and near death experiencer Mellen Thomas Benedict.

There is also the simple fact that our family members, kids and grandchildren may find this topic interesting, [and having productive conversations with our family is worth doing some research for].

Word Salad

 

[DennisPTate]

Word Salad

Was this article that was at least partly written by Stephen Hawking Ph. D. merely "word salad?" His photograph is on the first page of the article and this was published by "Oxford Press."

"It was not until 1920 that the idea of linking electromagnetism and
gravity resurfaced. At that time a new theory of gravitation had been proposed by Albert Einstein (1879-1955), called the general theory of relativity. It was a replacement of Newton's theory, which had stood unchallenged since 1687. Inspired by Einstein's work, a young German mathematician named Theodore Kaluza was seized by a curious idea. The theory of relativity links space an time together to form a four-dimensional space-time continuum. What would happen, mused Kaluza, if general relativity were formulated in five rather than four dimensions? This is what Kaluza did, and to everyone's astonishment it was discovered that five-dimensional gravity obeys the same laws as
four-dimensional gravity as well as Maxwell's laws for the electromagnetic field. In other words, gravitation and electromagnetism are automatically unified in five dimensions, where electromagnetism is merely a component of gravity!"

The only drawback of the theory concerns the extra dimension. Why
don't we see it? An ingenious answer was provided by Oskar Klein. A
hosepipe viewed from afar looks like a wiggly line, i.e. one- dimensional.
However, on closer inspection it can be seen as a narrow tube. It is, in fact,
two-dimensional, and what was taken to be a point on the line is actually a
little circle going around the tube. In the same way, reasoned Klein, what we normally regard as a point in three dimensional space could in reality be a little circle going around a fourth space dimension. Thus Kaluza's extra
dimension might well exist, but be impossible to detect because it is closed
(circular) and rolled up to a very small circumference. In spite of
these bizarre overtones, it seems probable that in future a "theory of everything" will make use of the idea of unseen higher dimensions."
....

"Although nature manifests four distinct forces, physicists believe that
each may be part of a smaller number of more primitive forces. At high energy, the electromagnetic and weak forces appear to merge into a single "electroweak" force. Some "grand unified theories" suggest that a further amalgamation takes place between the electroweak and strong forces at as yet unattained energies. The most ambitious unification schemes envisage an amalgamation of all four forces into a single "superforce" at ultra-high levels of energy."

...

"The real burden in the next three centuries will not be the development of fancy mathematics, but the experimental testing of these ambitious theories. All current thinking about total unification assumes that the effects of linking all the forces and particles together will only become manifest at energies that are some trillion times greater than those currently attainable in particle accelerators. Probably we shall never reach such energies directly" ( A Theory of Everything" Volume 21 of "The World of Science)

 

[DennisPTate]

just sayin'

"Scientific studies of Near-Death Experiences (NDEs) remain a subject of intense debate, with critics arguing they prove nothing about an afterlife because they are subjective, anecdotal, and likely products of a dying brain. While many researchers report consistent, lucid experiences during cardiac arrest, skeptics, such as those discussed on RichardDawkins.net, argue that these phenomena can be explained by cerebral hypoxia, endorphin release, or cultural expectations, rather than a separation of consciousness from the body."

Thank you for this video. This is awesome!
My apologies at first, for not cluing that you were backing up my premise in the opening post.

The out of the body experience has actually even been studied by both the C.I.A. and the K.G.B. for its value in espionage.

Near death experiencer Robert Marshall reports seeing his wife Carol crying for him with a puddle of tears on the floor at her feet, while he is outside of his body, so when he meets Jesus he asks to be able to go back to comfort Carol. His prayer for his wife is answered.... and his wife's prayers for her husband are answered... and it is amazing how many medical updates are included in this particular near death experience account that shocks his doctors and nurses.

"Upon entering the emergency room, the admission staff quickly observed the medical emergency: I was having difficulty breathing. I was immediately escorted to the care area of the ER and met with a member of the medical team who performed the perfunctory vital signs and symptom identification.


The hospital staff responded to my symptoms and ordered a new CT scan and a broader, all- encompassing blood test. The results showed I had “unstable/abnormal vital signs and life-threatening conditions,” as described in my medical record. I was at risk of my airway being blocked by the mass indicated on the CT scan and I needed emergency intubation with ventilator support. They moved me to a surgical suite, inserted the oral intubation tube, and admitted me to the ICU immediately."

Emergency Room Medical Note:

IMPRESSION:

Increased inflammatory change in the deep left neck soft tissues with worsening swelling of the epiglottis and moderate to severe airway narrowing. Additional inflammatory change involving the left submandibular fossa and submandibular gland as well as the left anterior belly of the digastric. Findings suggest worsening infectious pharyngitis/tonsillitis/epiglottitis. No drainable collection.


Left glossotonsillar sulcus fullness persists. Although superimposed infection is likely, evaluation for an underlying malignancy should be pursued. Direct visualization and tissue sampling may be warranted by ENT. Follow-up CT neck with contrast in one to 3 months is recommended to confirm resolution.

No cervical lymphadenopathy by size criteria.

Incidental severe spinal canal narrowing C5-6 due to ossification of the posterior longitudinal ligament.

For the next two days, I rested comfortably, my body fighting the infection with the help of IV antibiotics, and the intubation tube that kept the mass away from my airway.

[Robert and Carol Marshall, Forty Four Hours in Heaven," page 13]

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I personally have really enjoyed every interview that I have heard by Robert Marshall.

His NDE account leads us to the question of whether or not Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in His resurrected body is now the greatest Jewish physician who has ever lived? In a way was it medical technology far beyond our comprehension at this time that was used to fix Robert Marshall's brain and internal organs that had been destroyed by oxygen deprivation?



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