Who Invented the "genocide" lie and why?

[Thethingsz]

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I know Israel is the underdog. Thanks for your breaking news

 

[gipper]

I know Israel is the underdog. Thanks for your breaking news

So you admit you know nothing. Lol.

 

[gipper]

Look who is talking about Nazis. The very Palestine Arab machine.

No other group has been hooked on Nazism without being under Nazi occupation than Palestinian Arabs.

Projection. Always projection with you Zionist cocksuckers.

Israel is the aggressor fool. Get informed.

MIGA!!!

 

[Thethingsz]

The Zionists (aka Nazis)

Look who is talking about Nazis. The very Palestine Arab machine.

No other group has been hooked on Nazism without being under Nazi occupation than Palestinian Arabs.

* Not Just The Mufti - the real extension of the Palestinian-Nazi collaboration.

* Like all Palestinians and most Arabs, Haj Amin al-Hussaini not only looked forward to an Axis Pact victory in World War II but also saw it as a means of defeating what he believed was a joint British-Jewish conspiracy to foist an Israelite homeland on the Middle East that would be to the detriment of his own people.

* most Arabs supported Hitler..

* When Hitler persecuted the Jews Arabs rejoiced...

* Most Arabs sided with the Nazis...

* Ahmad Shukeiry: "Our sympathies were with the Axis powers being led by Hitler"..

* PLO Leader Admits Support for Nazis, Says They Saw Zionism as Common Enemy (VIDEO).

 

[gipper]

Here is my comment:

The poster is right that the main culprit are those that push the lie, however, not all who tend to 'believe" it are really innocent.
Deep down most know it's a bluff.

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WHO INVENTED THE GENOCIDE LIE — AND WHY?
The make-believe “Palestinian genocide” has nothing to do with Palestinians or what is happening to them. Quite the opposite.
Pat's BEATEN WITH A SHTICK.
May 04, 2026

It’s a lie. But why?

I don’t invoke Nazis very often. That history is so massive and horrific, its lessons so sacred, that to flippantly throw around accusations of, or comparison with, Naziism is to defile the memory of the victims. Of course, that does not stop those who equate everything they don’t like with Hitler.

That’s bad enough.

Far, far worse, is the Holocaust inversion that has become routine in the world today: the accusation that Jews (Israelis) are perpetrating on non-Jews (Palestinians) something akin to what the Nazis perpetrated on Jews.

To casually toss around Nazi analogies is to defile a people’s history. To go a step further and calculatingly invert that history and project onto the victims the crimes that were perpetrated on their people is a mindboggling depth of sadistic inhumanity.

That it comes mostly from people who sanctimoniously claim the flag of antiracism, humanitarianism, and wokeness heaps the salt of audacity on the wound of atrocity.

However despicable this phenomenon, it succeeds in minimizing Jewish history and experience with genocide. So, when I am moved to make a relevant comparison with that past, the power is diminished, because this history has been negligently thrown around so habitually. Which is precisely the point.

Abuse of Holocaust memory plays multiple roles in the current discourse.

It diminishes the history itself, reducing Jewish experiences with discrimination — which are undeniably among the worst in human history — to mundane misfortune. It implies that Jews overreact about past traumas, which means we can ignore their pleas for contemporary tolerance and warnings about deteriorating social climates. It assumes that Jews exploit their history for political gain — and defiantly asserts that two can play at that game. Further, if Jewish fears are really just an overreaction, there is no justification for Israel as a refuge for imperiled Jews. Moreover, it flattens unique Jewish experiences into an indifferent “all people have suffered” equivalency.

Strategically, it inverts victim and perpetrator, neutralizing sympathy for Jews by asserting that they are no better than Nazis.

Not to be overlooked, this tactic also emotionally terrorizes Jews, which is an undeniable reward for the ostensible human rights defenders who behave in this way. Sadism is a massive and unexplored factor in this “dialogue.”

But there is something far more perilous in this Holocaust inversion.

Some of the people engaged in this defilement of Holocaust history do so with a very specific end goal.

A quick history lesson will illustrate …

Before the Holocaust, Jews made up about 1% of the German population. Despite this infinitesimally small number, Nazi propaganda portrayed Jews as having enormous, sinister power — a “1%” supposedly controlling or corrupting the “99%.” Rather than undermining the propaganda, the numerical differential was itself proof. So much power for such small numbers!

Nazis blamed Jews for everything negative and portrayed them as the embodiment of evil and disaster. They blamed Jews for Germany’s defeat in the First World War, for the Treaty of Versailles, for inflation, unemployment, communism, capitalism, liberalism, modern art, sexual “degeneracy,” and the alleged weakening of German culture.

Jews were useful scapegoats: instead of addressing the root causes of economic collapse, political failure, militarism, or class conflict, Nazis offered one simple enemy.

Naziism took historical antisemitism and supercharged it. Traditionally, whatever was Jewish was considered evil. More than ever before, under the Nazis, that equation inverted. Whatever was evil was cast as distinctively Jewish.

That framing justified the atrocities to come. Boycotts, firings, professional bans, public humiliation, and legal discrimination. Random beatings and coordinated, systemic violence. Segregation. Dispossession. Deportation. Mass murder with the goal of complete genocide.

Now …

The world today is a tragic mess. Even if the world were not already filled with conflict, inequality, tragedy, horrors and sadism, the advent of new technologies in the past couple of decades would bombard us with the worst images and news imaginable. Sadly, the news is overwhelmingly conflictual, tragic, horrific, the perpetrators of inequality and injustice demonstrating depths of sadism rarely seen. Social media and inescapable 24/7 news and commentary magnify that awfulness.

It all seems so hopeless. What can one person do? There are no easy answers.

And yet, it is at times like these that easy answers are most in demand.

And there is always someone ready to meet that demand.

This is why the “pro-Palestinian” movement has succeeded so wildly. In a world filled with incomprehensibly complex tragedies, this one conflict (which is comparatively minor, in terms of casualties among global flashpoints today) serves to concentrate global attention.

Just as the Nazis projected onto Jews every sin, real or imagined, facing the German people, the “pro-Palestinian” movement projects onto Israel every sin (real or imagined) of today’s world: inequality, injustice, racism, imperialism, greed, nationalism, tribalism … it is a catch-all for whatever one loathes. If the puzzle piece doesn’t fit the picture, the Goebbelses of the Palestinian narrative will hammer it until it does.

The Nazis blamed Jews for the worst sins they could conjure.

The Palestinian narrative blames Israel for the worst imaginable sins — except there’s a twist.

The Nazis mainstreamed genocide as a political imperative.

Since 1945, this has been recognized as the greatest crime humankind has ever invented.

And so, of course, it had to be that this greatest crime would soon come to be projected onto Jews.

Despite all evidence, much of the world contends that Palestinians are experiencing “genocide.”

This has nothing to do with Palestinians or what is happening to them.

It is a make-believe crime invented to frame the Jewish state.

No evidence required.

All evidence to the contrary discarded.

Returning to the lessons of the past, some of the Germans who fell for this propaganda were, in a sense, victims themselves, brainwashed into believing the worst about Jews.

Some of the “pro-Palestinians” who swallow the “Palestinian genocide” Kool-Aid today are likewise victims of a sort, having ignorantly succumbed to one of history’s biggest and most dangerous lies.

But the instigators of the libel know exactly what they are doing.

They are building a case against Jews — Israelis, yes, but Jews generally, since the polite distinctions the more politically savvy Israel-bashers make are irrelevant to those who invented the strategy.

They are creating a scenario in which Jews are widely accepted as perpetrators of civilization’s greatest evil.

Genocide.

In the interest of preventing a repetition of such atrocities — and in the most convoluted (im)moral inversion imaginable, it is the very lessons of Jewish genocide that are often invoked as justification — Israel is denounced as the agent of the greatest evil.

Many of the people who succumb to this outrageous lie are, in a sense, victims, like the Germans before them who fell for hate propaganda.

But those who invented and do the most to perpetuate the genocide libel know exactly what they are doing.

They are pinning a fake genocide on the Jews in order to “solve” the imaginary genocide by planning a real one.

The prevalent anti-Israel slogan says it all: “By any means necessary.”

They will spread the vicious lie that Jews are perpetrating the worst crime imaginable in order to foment that very crime — genocide — against Jews.

It seems incredible.

But this precise blueprint has been used before. With tremendous success.

WHO INVENTED THE GENOCIDE LIE — AND WHY?

The make-believe “Palestinian genocide” has nothing to do with Palestinians or what is happening to them. Quite the opposite.

pat604johnson.substack.com

Yeah its not genocide.

 

[SweetTea]

Under the rubble.

Gaza is totally destroyed. Hardly a building stands in a tiny geographical area that once held over 2 million people (prisoners of the Zio Nazi regime). Half of whom were children.

Do you always deny what your eyes tell you?

Zionists are the dumbest MFers on the planet.

Berlin was destroyed in WWII by British bombing. Was that a genocide?

 

[JoeB131]

It’s a lie. But why?

I don’t invoke Nazis very often. That history is so massive and horrific, its lessons so sacred, that to flippantly throw around accusations of, or comparison with, Naziism is to defile the memory of the victims. Of course, that does not stop those who equate everything they don’t like with Hitler.

That’s bad enough.

Far, far worse, is the Holocaust inversion that has become routine in the world today: the accusation that Jews (Israelis) are perpetrating on non-Jews (Palestinians) something akin to what the Nazis perpetrated on Jews.

To casually toss around Nazi analogies is to defile a people’s history. To go a step further and calculatingly invert that history and project onto the victims the crimes that were perpetrated on their people is a mindboggling depth of sadistic inhumanity.

That it comes mostly from people who sanctimoniously claim the flag of antiracism, humanitarianism, and wokeness heaps the salt of audacity on the wound of atrocity.

Actually, the Zionists meet the UN's definition of Genocide in Gaza.

They have slaughtered 75,000 of Gaza's two million people, or about 3.5% of the population.

the UN Defines Genocide as follows.

• Killing members of the group.
• Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group.
• Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the physical destruction of the group (e.g., starving, withholding medical care).
• Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group (e.g., forced sterilization, separating families).
• Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. [1, 2, 3]

What Israel is doing in Gaza absolutely meets the first three criteria and there's a good argument to be made that it is meeting the fourth one.

It is the same standard that was applied to the Serbians in Bosnia and Kosovo, and it the same standard we applied to the perpetrators of the genocide in Rwanda.


"Never Again" has become, "It's cool when we do it!"

 

[JoeB131]

Berlin was destroyed in WWII by British bombing. Was that a genocide?

What the British did to Dresden most certainly qualifies.

 

[SweetTea]

Actually, the Zionists meet the UN's definition of Genocide in Gaza.

They have slaughtered 75,000 of Gaza's two million people, or about 3.5% of the population.

the UN Defines Genocide as follows.

• Killing members of the group.
• Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group.
• Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the physical destruction of the group (e.g., starving, withholding medical care).
• Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group (e.g., forced sterilization, separating families).
• Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. [1, 2, 3]

What Israel is doing in Gaza absolutely meets the first three criteria and there's a good argument to be made that it is meeting the fourth one.

It is the same standard that was applied to the Serbians in Bosnia and Kosovo, and it the same standard we applied to the perpetrators of the genocide in Rwanda.


"Never Again" has become, "It's cool when we do it!"

The first two are meaningless during times of war on conflict. Of course people of a group are going to die and be injured, that is the way war works. People in one country tend to be of the same “group”. Go figure.

Common sense dictates that Israel isn’t trying to kill all Arabs, otherwise, they would start in their own country.

That there is a genocide in Gaza is intellectual dishonesty and hyperbole. It is nothing more than a political talking point. Nothing more. Those who want to believe such nonsense buy it. It’s the same people that buy that Trump is Hitler and his supporters are Nazis. Ridiculous.

 

[JoeB131]

The first two are meaningless during times of war on conflict. Of course people of a group are going to die and be injured, that is the way war works. People in one country tend to be of the same “group”. Go figure.

What Israel is doing in Gaza stopped being a "war" after the first week. A war indicates the ability to fight back. Since you brought up the bombing of Berlin, um, guess what, that stopped when Hitler was dead and the Nazis surrendered. Israel is on their third years of beating up on Gaza.

Common sense dictates that Israel isn’t trying to kill all Arabs, otherwise, they would start in their own country.

That's kind of silly. Most of the Jews killed by Hitler didn't live in Germany before the War started. In fact, if you were a German Jew, you had a 75% chance of surviving the war. Most of the Jews who were murdered were from Poland and other countries that Germany occupied.

That there is a genocide in Gaza is intellectual dishonesty and hyperbole. It is nothing more than a political talking point. Nothing more.

Um, no. It has a legitimate definition that we have applied to other countries, including Serbia and Rwanda.

In fact, the Israelis have murdered more people in Gaza than Serbia did in Bosnia.

Those who want to believe such nonsense buy it. It’s the same people that buy that Trump is Hitler and his supporters are Nazis. Ridiculous.

I'm having a hard time seeing the difference. I know one friend of mine, a naturalized citizen, who feels like she's living in 1930s Germany. She carries her passport and naturalization papers wherever she goes.

I make sure my wife has her green card and a copy of her documents with her at all times in case ICE hassles her.

So a secret police force that carts people off to concentration camps for being the wrong ethnicity? Sounds pretty Nazi to me.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Actually, the Zionists meet the UN's definition of Genocide in Gaza.

and white liberals meet my definition...so what? it isn't like the UN is made up of countries where anti-semitism doesn't come from/exist, in fact they are the voice of those places.

 

[SweetTea]

What Israel is doing in Gaza stopped being a "war" after the first week. A war indicates the ability to fight back. Since you brought up the bombing of Berlin, um, guess what, that stopped when Hitler was dead and the Nazis surrendered. Israel is on their third years of beating up on Gaza.

Just because one side is getting their butt kicked doesn’t mean it still isn’t a war. If the other side is still fighting back(Hamas), it is still a war.

Has Hamas surrendered and has Gaza changed leadership?

That's kind of silly. Most of the Jews killed by Hitler didn't live in Germany before the War started. In fact, if you were a German Jew, you had a 75% chance of surviving the war. Most of the Jews who were murdered were from Poland and other countries that Germany occupied.

Even using your numbers, is Israel rounding up and killing 25% of their Arabic population and sending them to concentration camps? Is Israel targeting Arabs or terrorists who happen to be Arab? You know the answer.

I'm having a hard time seeing the difference.

That’s because you are brainwashed.

So a secret police force that carts people off to concentration camps for being the wrong ethnicity? Sounds pretty Nazi to me.

People aren’t being sent to concentration camps for being the wrong ethnicity. They are being carted off for breaking our immigration laws and sent to holding facilities that don’t include gas chambers. Again, ridiculous hyperbole.

 

[JoeB131]

Just because one side is getting their butt kicked doesn’t mean it still isn’t a war. If the other side is still fighting back(Hamas), it is still a war.

This isn't war, it's genocide. The stated goal is to get the Arabs to leave Gaza.

Or kill them.

Even using your numbers, is Israel rounding up and killing 25% of their Arabic population and sending them to concentration camps? Is Israel targeting Arabs or terrorists who happen to be Arab? You know the answer.

They are targetting civilians in Gaza and displacing Arabs on the West bank.

"Never Again" has become "It's okay when we do it."

People aren’t being sent to concentration camps for being the wrong ethnicity. They are being carted off for breaking our immigration laws and sent to holding facilities that don’t include gas chambers. Again, ridiculous hyperbole.

You mean other than the 46 people who have died in ICE Custody?

 

[gipper]

Berlin was destroyed in WWII by British bombing. Was that a genocide?

Yeah let’s repeat WWII.

Can’t fix stupid.

 

[SweetTea]

Yeah let’s repeat WWII.

Can’t fix stupid.

Nobody said that. The point was that “genocide” could be used in virtually any war. The term has been watered down to a point where it has lost its meaning.

 

[gipper]

Nobody said that. The point was that “genocide” could be used in virtually any war. The term has been watered down to a point where it has lost its meaning.

Lol. Do you know anything about Gaza?

 

[rosends]

Many years ago, I asked my father (ob"m) whether I could, in a specific situation, sue someone. He said "sure! This is America, you can always sue someone. You'll lose, but go ahead!"

An argument can be made for a genocide in Gaza. But that's because anyone can make any argument he wants to. That doesn't make it a persuasive, grounded or substantiated argument, but an argument can be made.

 

[SweetTea]

Lol. Do you know anything about Gaza?

Yes, I know it isn’t a genocide. Israel was attacked on Oct. 7th and they responded. No, not a proportional response, because that isn’t the way war works. They are rooting out those responsible for the attacks and those that supported them. It has nothing to do with attempting to kill all Arabs, which would be a genocide.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

 

[Pastelli]

Do you also deny ..?

Thanks for revealing why you propagate the genocide lie. Your racist ultimate goal is Holocaust Denial.