Why are you against universal health care?

[hadit]

This logic is totally useless.

With this logic, no medical care should be offered to anyone. After all, it could be wrong. It's intellectual nihilism.

If medical evidence supports decreased mortality for people who undergo gender reassignment surgery, I think it should be covered. If medical evidence doesn't support ivermectin for prostate cancer, I think it shouldn't be covered.

This is the only rational way to proceed.

Well, given that the only data posted thus far says it doesn't, we should then agree it should not be covered, especially not forced on the taxpayers.

 

[Polishprince]

That depends on what you're talking about. Social reform and social welfare spending never reduced the crime rate.

Nevertheless, more environmental regulation resulted in a cleaner environment. Life for most Americans improved as a result of New Deal reforms. That is why Franklin Roosevelt was reelected three times.

Actually, the lives of most Americans didn't improve because of the New Deal. America's unemployment rate stayed in the double digits through July 1941, and was still north of 6% after a million guys got drafted and Hirohito pulled a Pearl Harbor job on us in December.

 

[Dorian Mode]

Democrats make the mistake in believing they will never get caught.

It's easy to understand why they are so hellbent on gaining enough power to never be held accountable, especially by the MSM. It's easy to understand why they were so freaked out about Trump in 2016 when he said it's time to drain the swamp and cut the waste, fraud and abuse in DC. It's easy to understand why they bogged Trump down with hoax after hoax during his first term to keep him on the defensive instead of offensive. It's easy to see that the democrap party is an organized crime syndicate and so many millions of people are involved. It's so easy to see how the democraps have such a large, loyal base no matter how bad the candidates are. The entire base benefits financially from the democrap party.

 

[Woodznutz]

Domestic spending doesn't cause debt. Trade deficits, remittances, and foreign aid are the problem.

 

[Hector12]

I spent years trying to get the VA to do something other than giving me drugs for my service connected back problems. I finally got an MRI and find out that I have a degenerating L4 and L5 proscribed physical therapy that didn't do shit. Took another MRI and was told by my primary that my degenerative problems were getting better. They are great.

I'm living through the pain because I can't deal with the VA's bullshit anymore.

I am sorry to hear about your experiences. I respect opinions based on experiences I have not had.

 

[Hector12]

Seriously ? FDR's New Deal extended the depression.

Republicans said that during the New Deal. Nevertheless, throughout the New Deal the per capita gross domestic product rose. Unemployment declined.

 

[sartre play]

Costs more than what? How is the quality poor? What are you basing that on? How do you measure quality?

What about the cost and quality of for profit private insurance where those companies can-in the absence of government regulations charge whatever they want, impose annual and lifetime caps on benefits , reject people with pre-existing conditions, and deny needed testing and medication? Anything that is for profit will cost more

A good government working for the majority of the population COULD oversee insurance , utility's and hospitals.
NOT allowing( while already making record profits) allow them to constantly push for profit increases.

 

[BS Filter]

Why are you opposed to universal healthcare for all Americans?

Excessive expense and fraud.

 

[Hector12]

Actually, the lives of most Americans didn't improve because of the New Deal. America's unemployment rate stayed in the double digits through July 1941, and was still north of 6% after a million guys got drafted and Hirohito pulled a Pearl Harbor job on us in December.

Source | Bureau of Labor Statistics, Historical Statistics of the United States Colonial Times to the 1970, Part I (U.S. Government Printing Office, 1975), Series D 85-86 Unemployment: 1890-1970, 135.
Creator | Bureau of Labor Statistics

Graph of U.S. Unemployment Rate, 1930-1945 · SHEC: Resources for Teachers

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[sartre play]

Excessive expense and fraud.

So if our government allows big business to raises rates to consumers
when already making record profits,
Why Wouldn't if we had GOOD government step in to balance increases?

 

[M14 Shooter]

....throughout the New Deal the per capita gross domestic product rose. Unemployment declined.

Interesting.
After Reagan's tax cuts, per capita GDP rose and unemployment declined.
What does this prove?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Republicans said that during the New Deal. Nevertheless, throughout the New Deal the per capita gross domestic product rose. Unemployment declined.

The only reason the depression ended was because US production ramped up during WWII. Damn some of you loons are historically retarded.

 

[Polishprince]

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Source | Bureau of Labor Statistics, Historical Statistics of the United States Colonial Times to the 1970, Part I (U.S. Government Printing Office, 1975), Series D 85-86 Unemployment: 1890-1970, 135.
Creator | Bureau of Labor Statistics

Graph of U.S. Unemployment Rate, 1930-1945 · SHEC: Resources for Teachers

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shec.ashp.cuny.edu

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The graph proves my point exactly. Unemployment stayed unacceptably high until America got into the war, although there was some improvement as war industries increased employment after WW2 started in Europe.

 

[BS Filter]

Why are you opposed to universal healthcare for all Americans?

Excessive expense and fraud.

So if our government allows big business to raises rates to consumers
when already making record profits,
Why Wouldn't if we had GOOD government step in to balance increases?

"IF". Clean up the fraud first.

 

[M14 Shooter]

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Yay FDR and his >15% unemployment rate.!!!!

 

[sartre play]

Excessive expense and fraud.

"IF". Clean up the fraud first.

ok, but that requires a longer slower process. Not that mess Musk produced.

 

[BS Filter]

ok, but that requires a longer slower process. Not that mess Musk produced.

What mess did Musk produce?

 

[g5000]

The same could be said about you loons if Trump introduces it. For it until your against it.

I don't give a shit what side of the aisle supports the Fed controlling healthcare. Nothing in the history of the world has been made better by more Government

I am not for UHC. You fools are stuck in a deep false dichotomy groove and it never occurs to you that not everyone who hates Trump is a leftist.

Dipshit.

I have put down my thoughts on how to fix our healthcare crisis HUNDREDS of times on this forum. And is a FREE MARKET solution.

Dipshit.

 

[g5000]

It's easy to understand why they are so hellbent on gaining enough power to never be held accountable, especially by the MSM. It's easy to understand why they were so freaked out about Trump in 2016 when he said it's time to drain the swamp and cut the waste, fraud and abuse in DC.

Then Trump went on to massively widen and deepen the swamp.

 

[d0gbreath]

Military families have UHC.