Why are you against universal health care?

[Hector12]

Interesting.
After Reagan's tax cuts, per capita GDP rose and unemployment declined.
What does this prove?

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In the U.S.,
the unemployment rate in 1981 averaged around 7.6%, reflecting the start of a deep recession, and significantly decreased by 1988 to approximately 5.5%, marking a strong recovery with the lowest rates in years as the economy expanded. The early 1980s saw rates peak near 10% (1982-83), followed by a steady decline through the mid-to-late 80s, culminating in low figures by the end of the decade.
Key Figures:

• 1981: ~7.6% (Average Annual Rate).
• 1988: ~5.5% (Average Annual Rate, with monthly rates as low as 5.3%).

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In the U.S., the unemployment rate peaked at around 24.9% in 1933 at the height of the Great Depression, then gradually declined but remained high, still around 14-17% in 1940,

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The unemployment rate declined more under Roosvelt than under Reagan. Military spending and employment is government spending and employment.

The economic growth under Reagan was unequally based.

 

[Hector12]

The graph proves my point exactly. Unemployment stayed unacceptably high until America got into the war, although there was some improvement as war industries increased employment after WW2 started in Europe.

Except for two years the unemployment rate declined significantly under Roosevelt.

 

[Hector12]

Yay FDR and his >15% unemployment rate.!!!!

Unemployment grew under Hoover. It declined under Roosevelt.

 

[Hector12]

Yay FDR and his >15% unemployment rate.!!!!

During the Great Depression the rich lost fortunes on the Stock Market. Roosevelt came along, blamed the rich for the Great Depression, raised their taxes, and encouraged their employees to form labor unions.

It was great fun, and it caused Roosevelt to be reelected three times.

 

[M14 Shooter]

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Though you proved my claims, you avoided my question:
What does this prove?


Oh, and I love you kids who can't address an issue w/o AI

 

[M14 Shooter]

Unemployment grew under Hoover. It declined under Roosevelt.

Yes... to a remarkably low 15%, and then - under Roosevelt - it went back up to ~20%
When did it fall to something like normal levels?
Why?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Roosevelt came along, blamed the rich for the Great Depression, raised their taxes....

Well, that explains the unemployment rate.

 

[Hector12]

Yes... to a remarkably low 15%, and then - under Roosevelt - it went back up to ~20%
When did it fall to something like normal levels?
Why?

Reactionaries claim the Roosevelt Administration artificially prolonged the Great Depression. Liberals claim that the Roosevelt Administration ended the Great Depression.

They agree that the Roosevelt Administration shifted wealth, power, and prestige from the business community to the government.

How one feels about the Roosevelt Administration will depend on how one feels about the business community and the government. How one feels about each will depend on events that have happened long after the Roosevelt administration and the Great Depression.

 

[Alex_northern_germany]

Why are you opposed to universal healthcare for all Americans?

That's an interesting question. As a German, I'd really like to understand how things work in the US. I generally think it's good that everyone who is sick, even if they are poor, receives treatment. In Germany, we have statutory health insurance; the premiums are around 14.5% of gross income, with the employer paying half. But above a certain income level, or if you're self-employed, you can get private insurance (which is usually cheaper). And anyone who can't afford it gets free health insurance. However, the fact is that because of all the people who don't pay in (the long-term unemployed, immigrants, etc.), the premiums naturally rise, and the benefits keep getting worse. They simply pass the cost on to those with statutory insurance... But generally, I would also support universal health insurance for all Germans because then everyone would have to share the burden for those without income. But they like to do it this way here; people with a lot of money opt out of the social security system.

 

[Hafar1014]

During the Great Depression the rich lost fortunes on the Stock Market. Roosevelt came along, blamed the rich for the Great Depression, raised their taxes, and encouraged their employees to form labor unions.

It was great fun, and it caused Roosevelt to be reelected three times.

Reagan fixed that mistake

 

[M14 Shooter]

Reactionaries claim....

You avoided the questions.
Again.
When did unemployment under FDR fall to something like normal levels?
Why?

 

[M14 Shooter]

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Thank you for proving my claims...
...but...
...you continue to avoid my question:
What does this prove?

This just says ya got nothing, and you know it.

 

[Hafar1014]

You avoided the questions.
Again.
When did unemployment under FDR fall to something like normal levels?
Why?

FDR started the WPA which used government not private funds to build road schools and other infrastructure. THats short term solution because government jobs are paid for by debt whuch long term will create inflation. Biden showed us how that mistake crushed the economy. A government job is a liability we have to pay for it. A private job is a wealth creating job it creates wealth

 

[M14 Shooter]

FDR started the WPA ...

All I see here is your repeated inability to address the issue put to you.

Further proof that your claim is an ideological statement, not a factual one.

 

[Hector12]

You avoided the questions.
Again.
When did unemployment under FDR fall to something like normal levels?
Why?

Unemployment fell to the normal range under my favorite president during World War II. Military spending and employment are government spending and employment.

I am glad we entered World War II. Nevertheless, if Germany and Japan had been behaving themselves, the money we spent killing Germans and Japanese could have been spent instead on public health, public education, public recreational facilities, environmental protection, and so on. The benefits to the economy would have been greater.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Unemployment fell to the normal range under my favorite president during World War II. Military spending and employment are government spending and employment.

And thus, the reduction of unemployment to normal levels under FDR had nothing to do with the New Deal
In fact the New Deal had, at the very best, an extremely limited effect on unemployment.
Further proof that your claim is an ideological statement, not a factual one.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Nevertheless, throughout the New Deal the per capita gross domestic product rose. Unemployment declined.

Interesting.
After Reagan's tax cuts, per capita GDP rose and unemployment declined.
What does this prove?

 

[Hector12]

And thus, the reduction of unemployment to normal levels under FDR had nothing to do with the New Deal
In fact the New Deal had, at the very best, an extremely limited effect on unemployment.
Further proof that your claim is an ideological statement, not a factual one.

That depends on how narrowly we define the New Deal. Life for most Americans began to improve almost as soon as he was inaugurated. That is why he was reelected in 1936 and 1940.

Not only did unemployment decline during this time, but Americans benefitted from the institution of Social Security, minimum wage laws, unemployment compensation, and laws to protect labor unions.

 

[Hector12]

Interesting.
After Reagan's tax cuts, per capita GDP rose and unemployment declined.
What does this prove?

Economic growth during the Reagan years was unevenly balanced.

 

[M14 Shooter]

That depends on how narrowly we define the New Deal.

As you did not qualify the term, you meant it in its entire length and breadth.
Now you're trying to parse, in order to safe face,
Fact remains: your claim is an ideological statement, not a factual one.

Life for most Americans began to improve almost as soon as he was inaugurated.

You have no capacity whatsoever to quantify this.